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Thewiseman
05-19-2010, 08:26 AM
What do you guts think of Diaz vs Sakurai? At a glance with doing no research yet, im thinking Diaz all the way. What ways does Sakurai have to win? I havent seen too many of his fights, actually, only against Hughes, Aoki and Zaromskis. I know Diaz has been very impressive as of late. I think this is in a cage also, do you see any differences in the way this fight goes down being that its in Japan?
Mr. IWS
05-19-2010, 08:44 AM
I think Diaz is gonna destroy Mach. I cant see Mach doing anything in this one.
http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/279.png
poopoo333
05-26-2010, 04:21 PM
I like Sakuraba @-220 because it is probably fixed for him :)
Diaz @-400 is probably worth it.
Mr. IWS
05-26-2010, 04:27 PM
Fuck. I was hoping Diaz would be a little cheaper.
I was just on BFO and didnt see these...LOL
Hopefully, some Japanese will drive it down a bit, but either way, Im on Diaz.
MMA_scientist
05-26-2010, 04:33 PM
Hansen has value. I will probably make a small bet there @ -275
How does Kid look at -1100 for the locks parlay? Kiko is 4-2 and on a 2 fight losing streak. His 4 wins are against 3-5, 1-5, 0-1, 0-2. So he doesn't have a single even remotely credible win.
Hansen has value. I will probably make a small bet there @ -275
How does Kid look at -1100 for the locks parlay? Kiko is 4-2 and on a 2 fight losing streak. His 4 wins are against 3-5, 1-5, 0-1, 0-2. So he doesn't have a single even remotely credible win.
I'm not putting anything in my parlays thats higher than -650
MMA_scientist
05-26-2010, 04:38 PM
3u on Hansen @ -275
I am waiting for Kid's line to move one way or the other. I am going to add him for the parlay.
MMA_scientist
05-26-2010, 04:40 PM
Hansen has value. I will probably make a small bet there @ -275
How does Kid look at -1100 for the locks parlay? Kiko is 4-2 and on a 2 fight losing streak. His 4 wins are against 3-5, 1-5, 0-1, 0-2. So he doesn't have a single even remotely credible win.
I'm not putting anything in my parlays thats higher than -650
For me, the line doesn't matter. I just want absolute locks. There are a lot of -500 fights where the dog is plenty live. I want fights where the other guy just can't win at all. So give me a heads up if the boxing plays are not in that vein.
I am keeping it as a separate bankroll, and one loss means the project is over. So I need them to be absolute mismatches.
poopoo333
05-26-2010, 04:46 PM
[quote="MMA_scientist":2q5cbj09]Hansen has value. I will probably make a small bet there @ -275
How does Kid look at -1100 for the locks parlay? Kiko is 4-2 and on a 2 fight losing streak. His 4 wins are against 3-5, 1-5, 0-1, 0-2. So he doesn't have a single even remotely credible win.
I'm not putting anything in my parlays thats higher than -650
For me, the line doesn't matter. I just want absolute locks. There are a lot of -500 fights where the dog is plenty live. I want fights where the other guy just can't win at all. So give me a heads up if the boxing plays are not in that vein.
I am keeping it as a separate bankroll, and one loss means the project is over. So I need them to be absolute mismatches.[/quote:2q5cbj09]
Looks like you should take the Klitschko fight
MMA_scientist
05-26-2010, 04:51 PM
Looks like you should take the Klitschko fight
I would if he was -2000. But at -5000, I will only win like 1 dollar of a 5u bet.
Looks like you should take the Klitschko fight
I would if he was -2000. But at -5000, I will only win like 1 dollar of a 5u bet.
Klitschko is -2500 on 5dimes .
poopoo333
05-28-2010, 10:55 AM
3u on Hansen @ -275
I am waiting for Kid's line to move one way or the other. I am going to add him for the parlay.
Why Hansen?
MMA_scientist
05-28-2010, 11:03 AM
Why Hansen?
I don't even know any more.
I think Hansen is better everywhere, has better win against better competition, can win the fight with strikes or on the mat.
But don't listen to me unless you want to lose money.
poopoo333
05-28-2010, 11:16 AM
Why Hansen?
I don't even know any more.
I think Hansen is better everywhere, has better win against better competition, can win the fight with strikes or on the mat.
But don't listen to me unless you want to lose money.
HMMM. I want to make some money tonight. Decisions decisions
MMA_scientist
05-28-2010, 11:21 AM
^^ I do think Hansen will win, but not super confident which is why 3u
If past DREAMs are any indication then the best play here is to put 1u on ALL the underdogs.
poopoo333
05-28-2010, 11:33 AM
If past DREAMs are any indication then the best play here is to put 1u on ALL the underdogs.
Yep. Same with WEC.
Mr. IWS
05-28-2010, 11:37 AM
Diaz is out of my price range now. I will play him at -400 or better.
poopoo333
05-28-2010, 11:38 AM
lol
3u on Hansen @-260
2u on Maeda @-280
1u on Sakuraba @-195
Mr. IWS
05-28-2010, 11:39 AM
lol
3u on Hansen @-260
2u on Maeda @-280
1u on Sakuraba @-195
GL tonight P
MMA_scientist
05-28-2010, 12:03 PM
I don't like Sakuraba at all. He is just too punchy at this point.
Maeda should win though.
MMA_scientist
05-28-2010, 02:04 PM
Taking it up to 5u on Hansen.
Gonna wake up in the morning with some extra coin in my account. Watched some vids, Hansen is going to knock him out.
Mr. IWS
05-28-2010, 02:48 PM
Taking it up to 5u on Hansen.
Gonna wake up in the morning with some extra coin in my account. Watched some vids, Hansen is going to knock him out.
::thumbup::
Mr. IWS
05-28-2010, 08:05 PM
I wound up playing Diaz and Nog in a parlay for 1 unit.
mma-attorney
05-28-2010, 08:38 PM
Without getting up in your business, what do you guys use as a unit? I haven't stuck to any regimented system like that, but would probably say $100. I like finding free-rolls, so betting thousands in arbitrage situations is no big deal, straight bets I limit to a few hundred. One of the guys I went to law school with literally gets $10,000-$20,000 down on fights that he likes. He gets comps to everything.
Mr. IWS
05-28-2010, 08:44 PM
Without getting up in your business, what do you guys use as a unit? I haven't stuck to any regimented system like that, but would probably say $100. I like finding free-rolls, so betting thousands in arbitrage situations is no big deal, straight bets I limit to a few hundred. One of the guys I went to law school with literally gets $10,000-$20,000 down on fights that he likes. He gets comps to everything.
Mine is $100
MMA_scientist
05-28-2010, 09:24 PM
Without getting up in your business, what do you guys use as a unit? I haven't stuck to any regimented system like that, but would probably say $100. I like finding free-rolls, so betting thousands in arbitrage situations is no big deal, straight bets I limit to a few hundred. One of the guys I went to law school with literally gets $10,000-$20,000 down on fights that he likes. He gets comps to everything.
I use a 50u bankroll, I am playing with about 5 grand, so my unit is around $100 right now. But I constantly adjust so that it is always 2%.
I use a 50u bankroll, I am playing with about 5 grand, so my unit is around $100 right now. But I constantly adjust so that it is always 2%.
exactly the same here
$20
Been that way for a while. Hope to move up at some point in the not too terribly distant future.
sideloaded
05-29-2010, 06:47 AM
Lolz Hansen got KTFO.
poopoo333
05-29-2010, 07:15 AM
Wow. Horrible.
MMA_scientist
05-29-2010, 07:31 AM
I am cursed. Its not even possible to lose this many bets.
MMA_scientist
05-29-2010, 07:37 AM
I mean, Hansen has NEVER been KOd. And Takaya has NEVER KOd someone. I am in Bizzaro world.
time to go dump on diego.
But is that a good idea, considering everything I think is wrong?
MMA_scientist
05-29-2010, 08:22 AM
full massive shame dump on Nog.
so full of self loathing.
Mr. IWS
05-29-2010, 09:03 AM
What a shitty break scientist. Sorry man.
MMA_scientist
05-29-2010, 09:12 AM
^^
No worries. If I win tonight, I will get all my losses from this morning and last week's strikeforce back.
Have to go light a candle for Nog.
poopoo333
05-29-2010, 09:26 AM
^^
No worries. If I win tonight, I will get all my losses from this morning and last week's strikeforce back.
Have to go light a candle for Nog.
How many units on Nog?
Ugh.
I'm there with you. I threw my Celtics winnings on Hellboy last night right before the event. I am not happy. Fuck betting on DREAM favorites. I should've known better. I see Sakuraba lost too.
poopoo333
05-29-2010, 09:42 AM
I've never done well on Dream or WEC. The underdogs tend to win in these organizations...a lot.
I've never done well on Dream or WEC. The underdogs tend to win in these organizations...a lot.
A LOT lot lot lot.
Should've gone underdogs, Diaz, or nothing.
Oh and if there is a line, never bet against Minowa.
Mr. IWS
05-29-2010, 09:58 AM
Oh and if there is a line, never bet against Minowa.
Yeah, especially if the guy is physically twice as big.
Fight videos.
http://thegarv.com/DREAM-14-Fight-Videos.html
If you want to laugh watch Mach escape an armbar by flipping into the cage and allowing Nick to crank it. Looks like he just handed it to him. Amazing defense.
Kid's finish is true highlight reel stuff.
Hansen gets laid out by a phantom punch.
Mr. IWS
05-29-2010, 10:23 AM
Fight videos.
http://thegarv.com/DREAM-14-Fight-Videos.html
If you want to laugh watch Mach escape an armbar by flipping into the cage and allowing Nick to crank it. Looks like he just handed it to him. Amazing defense.
Thanks man.
poopoo333
05-29-2010, 10:38 AM
Lolz Hansen got KTFO.
I forgot to say this earlier...
fuck off!
Mr. IWS
05-29-2010, 10:42 AM
Lolz Hansen got KTFO.
Kind of a dickhead first post.
Probably a lurking Sherdogger.
Svino
05-29-2010, 11:19 AM
Anyone know the rules for shoes in Dream? Seems like you're allowed to kick with them.
MMA_scientist
05-29-2010, 11:31 AM
How many units on Nog?
um, all of them.
Lolz Hansen got KTFO.
Slow your roll.
Not very nice considering a lot of people lost money last night.
How many units on Nog?
um, all of them.
Tilt, nigga.
Let's hope the terminator that obliterated Cane shows up.
Jesus... Did anyone else notice it looks like they leave the cage exposed or at least leave the twisted form of the fencing? the Diaz fight had a real good look at it and it looks like it would tear a guy's back up something nasty if he tried to wall walk on it.
Mr. IWS
05-29-2010, 06:05 PM
Jesus... Did anyone else notice it looks like they leave the cage exposed or at least leave the twisted form of the fencing? the Diaz fight had a real good look at it and it looks like it would tear a guy's back up something nasty if he tried to wall walk on it.
I read it was some kind of fishing net they used for the cage. No BS on that. Ill try to find a link.
Yeah zak is right. It's not powdercoated metal its some kind of tightly woven fishing twine or some shit, so it's more of a strong net than a cage.
sideloaded
05-29-2010, 08:26 PM
jesus christ I just thought it was a funny punch that hit him. Why do you people think im talking about your bet? This place has more moderators then posters.
jesus christ I just thought it was a funny punch that hit him. Why do you people think im talking about your bet? This place has more moderators then posters.
We just don't think it's great etiquette to take it lightly when half the forum just lost money. Sometimes it's better to just say, "Sucks, guys. Sorry." And then "LOL" to yourself about the fight.
Mr. IWS
05-29-2010, 09:02 PM
jesus christ I just thought it was a funny punch that hit him. Why do you people think im talking about your bet? This place has more moderators then posters.
Its cool man, no harm. Just some peeps wound up over the result is all. Welcome to the forum.
::handshake::
jesus christ I just thought it was a funny punch that hit him. Why do you people think im talking about your bet? This place has more moderators then posters.
We've had some trolls lately is why people thought you were taking shots at them.It was your first post so no one realized you were joking had we did no one would have said a word even if they had bet on it.
We joke all the time around here it was just a misunderstanding
welcome man ::handshake::
Hey, sideloaded, check your messages.
Hey, sideloaded, check your messages.
Uh oh.
Didn't even answer my question... Dick move, man, dick move.
sideloaded
05-30-2010, 09:38 PM
Next time put some effort into it and actually disguise your links and come up with a better story. Ive read Nigerian scam emails more creative and thought out.
So uh, somebody want to explain?
So uh, somebody want to explain?
Yeah What'chu talkin' about, Willis?
Oh I put a link in a message for sideloaded as a joke and he's gotten all twisted up about it like it's a virus or some shit. For a guy who's first post was a joke he sure doesn't seem to be able to take one. Anywho, sideloaded, feel free to borrow a shovel for all that sand in your vagina any time and have yourself a great day champ. ::luck::
poopoo333
05-30-2010, 10:42 PM
Oh I put a link in a message for sideloaded as a joke and he's gotten all twisted up about it like it's a virus or some shit. For a guy who's first post was a joke he sure doesn't seem to be able to take one. Anywho, sideloaded, feel free to borrow a shovel for all that sand in your vagina any time and have yourself a great day champ. ::luck::
You are 1-8 for props and up 2.2u..which prop did you hit @ what odds?
Randy Couture and Mark Coleman to end before 2 and a half rounds at like +500 or something like that.
sideloaded
05-30-2010, 10:52 PM
I'm the sensitive one? I got jumped for pointing out that Hansen got knocked out by what looked like a phantom punch. I wasn't laughing at everyone's bet's. Personally I would've never took Hansen that high. He hasn't looked good since the first Aoki fight.
Hey man, I'm not the one who got a hair across his ass because of a joke link in the messages after he came off like an asshole. First impressions and all that. How long are you going to keep crying about people who were rubbed the wrong way about something you posted without thinking about it first? We've established it was a joke, we established that people took it the wrong way, and we established that it's over and done with. Is there a reason to keep bitching about it or do you really have nothing else to offer here? I'm just sayin'
sideloaded
05-30-2010, 11:42 PM
There's nothing wrong with my post. I don't need to think about shit. I'm not going to apologize for it. So for the people who said fuck you, right back at you. If you cant take harsh pm's don't send them. You tried to clown me for what? "lolz hansen got KTFO." Guess what he did, and it was funny to me. Your the one pm'ing dickish things to people you don't even know over the internet.
There's nothing wrong with my post. I don't need to think about shit. I'm not going to apologize for it. So for the people who said fuck you, right back at you. If you cant take harsh pm's don't send them. You tried to clown me for what? "lolz hansen got KTFO." Guess what he did, and it was funny to me. Your the one pm'ing dickish things to people you don't even know over the internet.
No one said apologize we said move on. Everyone knows you didnt mean anything by it now move on and stop bringing it up over and over again. As for PM's I dont care what he sent you they are private and off the board.If you dont like it dont open his pm's simple as that.
sideloaded
05-30-2010, 11:55 PM
It was over till this guy starts shit for no god damn reason and someone is like "oh no" like I'm in for some giant ass clowning and it failed so bad because I didn't even click the link.
It was over till this guy starts shit for no god damn reason and someone is like "oh no" like I'm in for some giant ass clowning and it failed so bad because I didn't even click the link.
It was in PM's
I could careless ::handshake::
Not surprising. Ludo fails at everything.
So if it failed, why are you still menstruating about the hansen thing? Come on dude.
zY... Who let you back in the house?
It was over till this guy starts shit for no god damn reason and someone is like "oh no" like I'm in for some giant ass clowning and it failed so bad because I didn't even click the link.
Everyone knows Ludo's an asshole. (Not really, Ludo. I'm just giving you shit.)
But seriously, if ya'll got shit together then ya'll have to work it out.
I think you are feeling a little ganged up on. If that's the case, then we apologize. Shit happens. We have a pretty tight knit community here though, so we like for everyone to be friends.
No really I want to know who let zY back in the house.
No really I want to know who let zY back in the house.
::swifty:: Where was he before?
No really I want to know who let zY back in the house.
::swifty:: Where was he before?
Outside with the other animals, otherwise known as "the heavies"
No really I want to know who let zY back in the house.
::swifty:: Where was he before?
Outside with the other animals, otherwise known as "the heavies"
Oh it's like that?
I spend a lot of time in "the heavies". . .
F2 for the win!
you tell me, cap-i-tan
That's Sir to you.
I am a red belt after all.
Do you like apples?
Ok I'm caught up now I officially know what "the heavies" is and where the animals are.
Zy did you learn anything over there?
F2 for the win ??? Red belts ? capitan?
ok lost again
F2 for the win ??? Red belts ? capitan?
ok lost again
Well, as Roy Jones would say
"You want a war? Mafucka I ain't hard to find so holla back, nigga!"
::hammertime::
F2 for the win ??? Red belts ? capitan?
ok lost again
This is revenge for all the times you fucked with everyone cause you couldn't sleep. Reap what you sow, Luke, REAP IT!
F2 for the win ???
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/
This is revenge for all the times you fucked with everyone cause you couldn't sleep. Reap what you sow, Luke, REAP IT!
Revenge??? LOL nice try . You guys are officially dumber for hanging out with those guys at sherdog. From everything I've heard they spaz out about everything and push the hype train harder than anyone. They are the defintion of "the public"
Revenge lol like I honestly care about sherdog trolls ::lmao::
They are the defintion of "the public"
That's not really true. There are some very knowledgeable people over there.
Really, Sherdog is the definition of "everybody" but BY DEFINITION even the least of them are people who are into MMA enough to find Sherdog in the first place.
They are the defintion of "the public"
That's not really true. There are some very knowledgeable people over there.
Really, Sherdog is the definition of "everybody" but BY DEFINITION even the least of them are people who are into MMA enough to find Sherdog in the first place.
I was kidding it was the first thing that came to mind.Like I care where people post at
I was kidding it was the first thing that came to mind.Like I care where people post at
Your mom cares where people post at.
I was kidding it was the first thing that came to mind.Like I care where people post at
Your mom cares where people post at.
BOL.
Check your messages, Luke, SPX, Zak. I got a good one in there for ya's what sideloader just sent me. ::lmao::
Mr. IWS
05-31-2010, 10:20 AM
Lets knock the bs off please.
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