Strikeforce Challengers 8

[MMA_scientist]

This Friday, hopefully lines will be out today.

Matchups:
Matt Lindland vs. Kevin Casey
Tyron Woodley vs. Nathan Coy
Roger Bowling vs. Bobby Voelker
Tarec Saffiedine vs. Nate Moore
Bryan Travers vs. Pat Healy


Lindland could be worth a bet if he opens low because he has looked terrible. Coy has already beaten 3 very good wrestlers in Jesse Taylor, Rick Story, and Mike Pierce. But Woodley is a beast. I suspect he will be like -300 or so though.

[Mr. IWS]

If the line is reasonable, Ill be all over Woodly, but he will probably be like -500 and up.

[ManBoobKilla]

what about kevin casey? I think he is a good under dog bet. He could surprise a lot of people here

[MMA_scientist]

All I know about Casey is that he is a bjj brown belt under Rickson... but he is 3-1. Lindland has been submission prone, but I would need to see more of his game. Lindland is not going to just go out and give up his arm. He has fought plenty of bjj fighters and not been subbed. Unless Casey is a big dog, I probably won't bet it.

[ManBoobKilla]

All I know about Casey is that he is a bjj brown belt under Rickson... but he is 3-1. Lindland has been submission prone, but I would need to see more of his game. Lindland is not going to just go out and give up his arm. He has fought plenty of bjj fighters and not been subbed. Unless Casey is a big dog, I probably won't bet it.

I think I will make a play on casey. Rickson brown belt means legit black belt usually. The only problem I see is him getting lindland to the ground. Maybe we will see lindland take casey down like he did Jacare lol

[MMA_scientist]

Lindland's standup is nothing to write home about. His gameplan is probably going to be to clinch and do some dirty boxing.

[ManBoobKilla]

Lindland's standup is nothing to write home about. His gameplan is probably going to be to clinch and do some dirty boxing.

Maybe Casey can pull guard from the clinch or something

[Ludo]

I wouldn't call Lindland submission prone really. He's only been submitted three times in his entire career by Jacare, Fedor(who outweighs him by about 30-40lbs), and Murilo Bustamante. Those are pretty credible grapplers to say the least. I don't see Lindland getting submitted unless he really leaves something out there. I can see Lindland controlling the pace and bullying this guy around with double underhooks against the cage, Lindland from top control is a scary thing though. Assuming the line isn't crazy on Lindland I'll probably be on him.

[JAB]

Don't write Nate Coy off too much. If he is a big dawg there is value there. He has trained/sparred with woodley numerous times and from what he told me he wasn't too impressed.

[MMA_scientist]

Don't write Nate Coy off too much. If he is a big dawg there is value there. He has trained/sparred with woodley numerous times and from what he told me he wasn't too impressed.

I suspect he will be about -400. I wouldn't bet the fight either way. Like I said, Casey has already beaten 3 very good wrestlers. Woodley's path to victory isn through the striking, IMO.

[JAB]

Nate is just as good of wrestler IMO. What people fail to realize is Coy was NCAA all-american. Lost to Koscheck for 3/4 at 174lbs.

[Ludo]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/274.png

Yeah I don't think I'll be on Lindland now.

[Ludo]

.7u to win 2.2u on Coy. I meant to only do half that but 5Dimes gave me an error message and then when I redid it from scratch it counted it twice. Bastards.

[ManBoobKilla]

.5 u on Casey at +350 and .25u on Coy and Casey parlay

[MMA_scientist]

Nate is just as good of wrestler IMO. What people fail to realize is Coy was NCAA all-american. Lost to Koscheck for 3/4 at 174lbs.

Didn't know that... like I said though, should come down to striking, which is why I am not betting. But it sound like there is some value to Coy

[poopoo333]

Lets go Bowling, Woodley, and Lindland! Make my parlay win!

[zY|]

More MMA? This is like Christmas.

[Svino]

This guy has Justin Bieber hair.

[SPX]

Stream?

[Svino]

I'm still watching http://snapples.forumotion.com/

Ch 1

[zY|]

Stream?

Sopcast stream switched over to it.

[poopoo333]

I have Showtime. Lucky me.

Bowling is doing good. I think this parlay is mine. Woodley and Lindland will assrape their opponents.

[zY|]

Oh great, more shitty commentary.

[SPX]

Sopcast stream switched over to it.

Okay, well I guess I'll quit rocking out to Suicidal Tendencies and go back to that shit.

[poopoo333]

I am thinking of laying money on Lindland at -255.

[zY|]

Sopcast stream switched over to it.

Okay, well I guess I'll quit rocking out to Suicidal Tendencies and go back to that shit.

I actually happen to be drinking a Pepsi right now.

[zY|]

I am thinking of laying money on Lindland at -255.

Yeah I want to parlay my Tim winnings onto something.

[SPX]

I actually happen to be drinking a Pepsi right now.

LOL. Touche, sir.

I'm a big ST fan. Just got their new album not too long ago.

[poopoo333]

Lindland's past losses:
Jacare by submission...well that is no surprise
Belfort by KO...well that was Vitor Belfort
Fedor by sub...well that is Fedor, a HW
Rampage by split decision...Close fight I am guessing, but I have never seen it. BUT IT IS RAMPAGE!

Casey got TKOd by Minowa.

[zY|]

I'm happy to see them doing this properly so far and giving the doctor time to figure this out. Normally it's like "no you get no time! you can either see and have to fight right this second or you can't!" which is so inane it makes me want to smash my TV.

[poopoo333]

You know what? I am not no pussy! 5.25u on Lindland @-255. Whatever.

[Svino]

I really don't know what the rule is here. Should they go to the scorecards? If it wasn't an illegal poke, isn't it a standard TKO?

[zY|]

So is it going to decision or what?

[zY|]

I really don't know what the rule is here. Should they go to the scorecards? If it wasn't an illegal poke, isn't it a standard TKO?

Technically I guess. I didn't see how it happened.

[poopoo333]

These fans are fucking douchebags.

[poopoo333]

Oh, and Bowling sounds like he is just hitting puberty.

[SPX]

These fans are fucking douchebags.

Truth. Just straight up selfishness. Pieces of shit.

[zY|]

Is it just me or was the Moosin crowd like out-of-this-world excited? It almost sounded like Randy vs Sylvia where the crowd drowned out the commentary.

[SPX]

Is it just me or was the Moosin crowd like out-of-this-world excited? It almost sounded like Randy vs Sylvia where the crowd drowned out the commentary.

I thought that whole fucking event was the bomb. This shit seems kind of lame in comparison, actually.

[zY|]

Is it just me or was the Moosin crowd like out-of-this-world excited? It almost sounded like Randy vs Sylvia where the crowd drowned out the commentary.

I thought that whole fucking event was the bomb. This shit seems kind of lame in comparison, actually.

Yeah it's funny. The relevant MMA seems pretty meh right now.

[poopoo333]

Tyron is whooping some ass.

[SPX]

Yeah it's funny. The relevant MMA seems pretty meh right now.

I think sometimes it's more about spirit, than production.

It's kind of like how a rough-around-the-edges indie film can be more enjoyable than some slick Hollywood shit.

Plus, I won money. And I was really down with that girl fight. I think that Roxy girl has my heart.

[zY|]

Legitimate restart?

What the fuck Pat Miletich? Coy is blasting the fuck out of his thigh!

[poopoo333]

Meisha Tate has my heart.

[zY|]

Yeah it's funny. The relevant MMA seems pretty meh right now.

I think sometimes it's more about spirit, than production.

It's kind of like how a rough-around-the-edges indie film can be more enjoyable than some slick Hollywood shit.

Plus, I won money. And I was really down with that girl fight. I think that Roxy girl has my heart.

I really enjoyed seeing my girl Marlos Coenen tap her out.

But yeah. I was reading on Sherdog and seen a bunch of sigs with "I survived the Moosin". LOL, it's approaching YAMMA cult status.

[zY|]

How'd you guys score that?

10-9 Woodley for me, but damn close.

[SPX]

I really enjoyed seeing my girl Marlos Coenen tap her out.

But yeah. I was reading on Sherdog and seen a bunch of sigs with "I survived the Moosin". LOL, it's approaching YAMMA cult status.

I'm wondering if I can get an interview with her. . .

[zY|]

Nice high kick idiot

[Svino]

Yeah it's funny. The relevant MMA seems pretty meh right now.

I think sometimes it's more about spirit, than production.

It's kind of like how a rough-around-the-edges indie film can be more enjoyable than some slick Hollywood shit.

Plus, I won money. And I was really down with that girl fight. I think that Roxy girl has my heart.

Yeah. That was a great event and a great fight. The girls seemed to be friends and still went out and put on an awesome and aggressive fight. Props to both; the guys could learn something from them.

[poopoo333]

20-18 Woodley..first round was close though, and I am going to give it to the guy in my parlay obviously.

[zY|]

Coy is taking it to him though. He gave that 2nd round away.

[poopoo333]

Coy probably won. He definitely won the 3rd round.

[zY|]

Tyron better do something. I would not be surprised to see the judges giving Coy the first round. The freshest thing in their minds was Coy's offense.

[SPX]

Whoever said Coy is a good dog bet was right, win or lose.

[poopoo333]

30-27 Coy? lol

YES TYRON WON!!!!! YES YES YES

[zY|]

rofl another 30-27 SHIT decision

[SPX]

Congrats, PP. Probably a good decision, but Woodley shouldn't have been a -400 fave.

[zY|]

I had it 29-28 Woodley as well, but I wouldn't argue with a 10-10 first or even 10-9 Coy.

[poopoo333]

Close fight indeed. Lindland wins... my parlay wins. Lindland wins..my single bet wins.

[zY|]

LOL at Mauro talking about a rematch. Not gonna happen, sorry.

[SPX]

Close fight indeed. Lindland wins... my parlay wins. Lindland wins..my single bet wins.

Go Lindland!

[zY|]

Close fight indeed. Lindland wins... my parlay wins. Lindland wins..my single bet wins.

Lindland is going to crush this dude.

It's going to be boring as shit but it's in the bag.

[poopoo333]

Looked like Casey was reading off of a teleprompter.

[edman5555]

The judges don't give enough value to leg damage. Coy would have won on their cards, as he should have..if they did. Woodley was in pain.

[zY|]

LOL at Casey. Lindland's weakness his submission defense. Only been submitted by Jacare and Fedor, and Bustamante 8 years ago.

[zY|]

The judges don't give enough value to leg damage. Coy would have won on their cards, as he should have..if they did. Woodley was in pain.

If Coy didn't try that high kick and slip on his ass in the 2nd round, he wins the fight. Ending the round backmounted and caught in an armbar generally loses you the round.

[SPX]

Wishing I had bet on this fight. . .

[Svino]

Yeah. I just threw a unit on Lindland for the heck of it.

[SPX]

Why does Matt Lindland look retarded?

[poopoo333]

The judges don't give enough value to leg damage. Coy would have won on their cards, as he should have..if they did. Woodley was in pain.

If Coy didn't try that high kick and slip on his ass in the 2nd round, he wins the fight. Ending the round backmounted and caught in an armbar generally loses you the round.

Yep. That really did seal the deal.

[poopoo333]

Casey's corner should have been aborted.

[poopoo333]

Holy shit, Casey is black as hell.

[zY|]

Holy shit, Casey is black as hell.

Wesley Snipes got nothin on that mothafucka.

[zY|]

wtf. Cmon Lindland. Stop being old.

[MMA_scientist]

couldnt sleep... git my stream up... who won rd 1?

you guys are still at it. warriors.

[zY|]

couldnt sleep... git my stream up... who won rd 1?

you guys are still at it. warriors.

Well Casey was very close to RNCing Lindland...

[Svino]

Casey probably took round 1 IMO.

[MMA_scientist]

lindland has grandpa arms

[zY|]

Think Casey is done.

[poopoo333]

couldnt sleep... git my stream up... who won rd 1?

you guys are still at it. warriors.

I put a 5.25u bet on Lindland, if you didn't see already haha.

First round was a toss up but Casey had Lindland's back for awhile so that probably sealed the deal.

[Svino]

Think Casey is done.

Maybe Lindland's stench attack is getting to him.

[poopoo333]

From bloody elbow:

Matt Lindland vs. Kevin Casey - Round 1 - Lindland with a quick body lock takedown and he has Casey against the cage. Lindland landing a few punches, avoiding an armbar and landing more punches. Casey manages to stand back up. Casey with a takedown and Lindland stands back up. Another takedown though and Casey has half guard. Lindland tries to scramble but gives up his back. Body triangle by Casey. Lindland defending the choke and landing punches backward to Casey's face. Lindland explodes back to the guard and stomps on Caseys legs and then lands a flurry of punches and knees as the round ends. 10-10 round in my book. Casey had his back but did no damage and didn't have the choke locked in at any point. Lindland did damage but had his back taken.

[zY|]

Unless Casey pulls something out of his ass it's looking like 29-28 Lindland. He's found his groove.

[MMA_scientist]

Casey is going to hang on and hope lindland subs himself.

You won poopoo

[zY|]

From bloody elbow:

Matt Lindland vs. Kevin Casey - Round 1 - Lindland with a quick body lock takedown and he has Casey against the cage. Lindland landing a few punches, avoiding an armbar and landing more punches. Casey manages to stand back up. Casey with a takedown and Lindland stands back up. Another takedown though and Casey has half guard. Lindland tries to scramble but gives up his back. Body triangle by Casey. Lindland defending the choke and landing punches backward to Casey's face. Lindland explodes back to the guard and stomps on Caseys legs and then lands a flurry of punches and knees as the round ends. 10-10 round in my book. Casey had his back but did no damage and didn't have the choke locked in at any point. Lindland did damage but had his back taken.

I could see 10-10. It doesn't matter though as the judges aren't going to score it that.

[poopoo333]

If Lindland wins, that is +6.22u for the night.

[Svino]

I could see 10-10. It doesn't matter though as the judges aren't going to score it that.

Yep. A "10-10" round should really be considered a "coin-toss" round, if you're trying to predict the judges.

[SPX]

If Lindland wins, that is +6.22u for the night.

That's a nice haul.

[MMA_scientist]

not even cecil peeples could give Casey rd 2. he is either going to get pulled off or win a 29-28. Nice work

[MMA_scientist]

If Lindland wins, that is +6.22u for the night.

you cleaned up this week with your 10u on Hornbuckle too.

[poopoo333]

AAAAND +6.22u ::dance::

[MMA_scientist]

congrats.

now i can go to bed.

[zY|]

Congrats poopoo.

[poopoo333]

Good night guys...gotta wake up in 5.5 hours.

[Svino]

AAAAND +6.22u ::dance::

Nice job, dude.

[SPX]

AAAAND +6.22u ::dance::

Congrats yo!

[JAB]

Just got back from watching live... gotta say I think my boy nate coy got hosed a little, will have to watch the fight again tomorrow sober...

[Mr. IWS]

Just got back from watching live... gotta say I think my boy nate coy got hosed a little, will have to watch the fight again tomorrow sober...

That was a good call by you man.

[Mr. IWS]

Double P ::winna::