Strikeforce Houston Aug 21st

[Mr. IWS]

Should be a good fight



http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2010/06/30/ ... n-houston/ (http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2010/06/30/muhammed-king-mo-lawal-vs-rafael-fejao-cavalcante-set-for-august-21-strikeforce-in-houston/)

The newly crowned Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Champion Muhammed “King Mo” Lawal will be putting his championship crown on the line for the first time against dangerous Brazilian striker Rafael “Feijao” Cavalcante in August.

FiveOuncesofPain.com recently learned of the anticipated match-up through sources close to the promotion.

The title clash is expected to take place on August 21 from Houston, Texas, while no venue for the event has been announced as of this writing.

Undefeated and widely considered to be among the best light heavyweights in the business, Lawal (7-0) stripped the Strikeforce championship from the waist of Gegard Mousasi during “Strikeforce: Nashville” with a convincing one-sided unanimous decision victory on April 17 of this year. While respected as one of the most dangerous wrestler’s in MMA, Lawal has established a reputation as a knockout artist during his less than two years spent in the sport, finishing 5 of his 7 victories via KO or TKO.

Standing across from Mo in his quest to successfully defend his title for the first time will be another 205 lb. fighter with a nasty reputation in the business as a knockout specialist.

More commonly known by his nickname “Feijao”, Cavalcante (9-2-1) has finished 8 of his 9 victims via KO or TKO. Feijao trains out of the highly respected Black House Gym that includes UFC notables such as Anderson Silva and The Nogueira Brothers. He is currently riding a two-fight win streak that includes stoppages of Antwain Britt and Aaron Rosa after being knocked senseless at the hands of Mike Kyle during “Strkeforce: Lawler vs. Shields” in June of 2009.

[zY|]

Damn, great fights being announced all over.

[Luke]

hopefully the Houston card will be a good one,this is a good start

[Luke]

Jacare vs. Tim Kennedy possible for this card also

[Luke]

Hendo -Babalu may also be on this card now:


HENDERSON BACK TO 205, BABALU REMATCH LIKELY


Dan Henderson's Strikeforce debut didn't go quite the way the former UFC and Pride fighter had hoped. After nearly knocking out Strikeforce middleweight champion Jake Shields in the opening round, Henderson faded late, worn down by Shields’ takedowns and ground and pound over the remaining rounds.

Looking for a return to action, Henderson plans to move back to 205 pounds after a rough weight cut made the fight against Shields that much harder. He could be staring down a rematch with Renato "Babalu" Sobral this fall.

The move to light heavyweight also virtually guarantees Henderson won't be a part of a possible Strikeforce middleweight tournament to crown a new champion now that Jake Shields has officially exited the promotion.

"Dan I believe when I talked to him over the weekend, I talked to Jordan, his manager, and they said they probably want to fight at 205 instead of 185," said Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker when appearing on MMAWeekly.com Radio. "(They) felt that the weight cut was too much, and Dan would welcome to fight Babalu again, Gegard Mousasi, for a 205-pound contender's bout.

"I don't think you'll see Dan in the 185-pound tournament, although stranger things have happened in MMA, right?"

Mousasi is more than likely out of the running for a possible bout with Henderson due to his addition to the upcoming Dream Light Heavyweight Grand Prix that kicks off on July 10. He’ll face Jake O'Brien in the first round of that tournament.

As far as the timing for the fight, the Aug. 21 event seems off the table for Henderson's return, but a show in the fall would be a likely fit for a bout between Henderson and Babalu.

"We haven't finalized it, but I would think the top two guys, Babalu and Gegard, depends on what happens with Gegard, but I think a fight between Babalu and Dan is something we might pursue in the very near future," Coker stated.

"I don't want to disrespect, but I would like to fight (Henderson). It's going to be 11 years since I fought him. It's a long time, and please, it would be an honor to fight him again, to have the chance to fight Dan Henderson," said Sobral after his recent win over Robbie Lawler in Los Angeles.

Henderson and Sobral met for the first time in 2000 in the Rings "King of Kings" tournament. They fought to a decision, with Henderson getting the nod, but this was after both fighters had already fought two times earlier in the night

[Luke]

Jacare vs. Tim Kennedy possible for this card also


From what I keep seeing it looks like this fight is going to happen and its going to be for Jake Shields 185 pound belt

[zY|]

This card is looking sick.

Strikeforce' 185 pound division is by far their best.

[Luke]

Bobby Lashley will face Chad Griggs.

[zY|]

Wait what happened to the 8 man MW tournament idea? Did Strikeforce jam more dicks in their ass?

[Luke]

Wait what happened to the 8 man MW tournament idea? Did Strikeforce jam more dicks in their ass?


Its suppose to be a later event .Oct I think

[Ludo]

from what I heard they are scrapping the eight man thing and doing a 4 man tournament. The winner of that faces the winner of Jacara/Kennedy for the first title defense.

[Luke]

from what I heard they are scrapping the eight man thing and doing a 4 man tournament. The winner of that faces the winner of Jacara/Kennedy for the first title defense.


Coker said the plan was still for an 8 man tourney. 8 guys fighting in Oct. Then 4 guys fightiing twice in one evening in Dec to crown the champ. The winner of the 8 man tourney would then fight the Jacre-Kennedy winner.

This was just two days ago:


“We always felt that crowning a champion would be the first priority,” said Coker. “We will host a tournament in October. It looks like the first round will take place then, which will lead to the final four in December.”

Coker said the promotion has initial plans to run the semi-finals and finals in one evening this December.

[Mr. IWS]

Do commissons in the US allow 2 fights in one night now?

[Ludo]

It's not the number of fights that the unified rules cover. They simply state that a fighter cannot fight for more than 25 minutes in one night. So most likely the first fight will be 2 rounds and the second, or finals of the tournament will be a 3 round fight.

[Mr. IWS]

It's not the number of fights that the unified rules cover. They simply state that a fighter cannot fight for more than 25 minutes in one night. So most likely the first fight will be 2 rounds and the second, or finals of the tournament will be a 3 round fight.

::handshake::

[SPX]

I'm intrigued.

If this could be the re-introduction of true tournaments in the US (with fighters fighting more than once a night) then it could prove to be very interesting indeed.

[Luke]

I just read Jeff Monson will be fighting in Strikeforce around OCT

[Mr. IWS]

I just read Jeff Monson will be fighting in Strikeforce around OCT

And Spray painting on Scott Cokers fence in September. ::thumbup::

[Luke]

I know the tourney doesnt start in Houston but I didnt want to start a new thread just for this



Strikeforce Tournament Rules: 1) Random drawing at weigh-ins. 2) Three (3) minute rounds. 3) Scored Draw = sudden victory round

more on the womens tournet here:

http://bit.ly/afH79m

[SPX]

Interesting.

3 minute rounds, eh?

[Luke]

Interesting.

3 minute rounds, eh?


its the womens I forgot to add that. The mens will for sure be 5 minute rounds (I'd think)

[Svino]

Interesting.

3 minute rounds, eh?


its the womens I forgot to add that. The mens will for sure be 5 minute rounds (I'd think)

It might be their general rules for one night tournaments. 3-min rounds sounds like a way to stay under the limit that fighters are allowed to fight on a given day.

[Luke]

It might be their general rules for one night tournaments. 3-min rounds sounds like a way to stay under the limit that fighters are allowed to fight on a given day.


I didnt even know there was a rule

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/2894.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[zY|]

It might be their general rules for one night tournaments. 3-min rounds sounds like a way to stay under the limit that fighters are allowed to fight on a given day.


I didnt even know there was a rule

There's no rule against fighting twice in one night. The rule is that a fighter can only fight 25 minutes in one night.

[Svino]

Hmm, maybe they worked out something with the commission where they could go up to 27?

[zY|]

Hmm, maybe they worked out something with the commission where they could go up to 27?

Who knows. Why not just do it like Bellator?

[Luke]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/2894.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)



thats just insane and stupid

[SPX]

I just saw Gurgel is fighting KJ Noons. I really think Gurgel is going to have a hard time winning this one for sure. Gurgel just doesn't beat guys that I've heard of.

[Luke]

^^^ will probably be another huge line on Noons anyway

[MMA_scientist]

Horrible style matchup for Gurgel. I will be on Noons up to my limit of -250 (too bad he will be -400)

[SPX]

Horrible style matchup for Gurgel. I will be on Noons up to my limit of -250 (too bad he will be -400)

So you feel Noons takes this one 73ish% of the time?

[MMA_scientist]

^^ yeah. Gurgel, flat out cannot take Noons down. Since Noons is a much better striker, I favor Noons a lot. Even if he gets him down, Gurgel is not a submission machine. His ground game is pretty overrated IMO.

[Mr. IWS]

^^ yeah. Gurgel, flat out cannot take Noons down. Since Noons is a much better striker, I favor Noons a lot. Even if he gets him down, Gurgel is not a submission machine. His ground game is pretty overrated IMO.

I swear, everytime I see Gurgel, he is tying to bang on the feet anyway. He is gonna get fuckin wrecked here.

[sbjj]

Horrible style matchup for Gurgel. I will be on Noons up to my limit of -250 (too bad he will be -400)


Yea, I think Noons @ -250 would be a gift. i think you are spot on with the -400 prediction.

[SPX]

I swear, everytime I see Gurgel, he is tying to bang on the feet anyway.

Except when he got triangled by Cole Miller. . .

[SPX]

Just took a quick look at Lashley's opponent. If he comes in as a underdog of any significance he may be worth a bet. He's 8-1 with 8 (T)KOs (if you count a verbal submission as a TKO). Most of his opponents aren't guys important enough to have a Wikipdia entry, but it's not like Lashley's beat anyone important yet, either.

[SPX]

Holy shit, Vinny Magahlaes is on this card.

Did anyone hear realize that he has a LOSING MMA record?

He's 4-5. I did not expect that.

[sbjj]

Just took a quick look at Lashley's opponent. If he comes in as a underdog of any significance he may be worth a bet. He's 8-1 with 8 (T)KOs (if you count a verbal submission as a TKO). Most of his opponents aren't guys important enough to have a Wikipdia entry, but it's not like Lashley's beat anyone important yet, either.


I literally have been waiting for the right fight to bet against Lashley. When it was announced he might fight Shane, i actually started to drool.

[SPX]

I literally have been waiting for the right fight to bet against Lashley. When it was announced he might fight Shane, i actually started to drool.

Shane?

[zY|]

I literally have been waiting for the right fight to bet against Lashley. When it was announced he might fight Shane, i actually started to drool.

Shane?

del Rosario.

And I didn't realize Vinny was 4-5, but I'm not surprised. He's not a good MMA fighter at all.

[SPX]

And I didn't realize Vinny was 4-5, but I'm not surprised. He's not a good MMA fighter at all.

I would think that someone who went as far as he did on the show would at least do better than he has been.

[sbjj]

I literally have been waiting for the right fight to bet against Lashley. When it was announced he might fight Shane, i actually started to drool.

Shane?

del Rosario.

And I didn't realize Vinny was 4-5, but I'm not surprised. He's not a good MMA fighter at all.

Yea, I understand no one LIKES to get hit(-Leben), but jeez, he REALLY does not like to get hit.

[zY|]

Armbarring Krystoff was the best thing he did. Who else did he beat? Rashad Evans fat brother and Jules? Both guys shouldn't have gone anywhere near a cage. He was 2-2 before the show for a reason. He should stick to BJJ comps.

[SPX]

Armbarring Krystoff was the best thing he did. Who else did he beat? Rashad Evans fat brother and Jules? Both guys shouldn't have gone anywhere near a cage. He was 2-2 before the show for a reason. He should stick to BJJ comps.

Jules

LOL

[zY|]

Armbarring Krystoff was the best thing he did. Who else did he beat? Rashad Evans fat brother and Jules? Both guys shouldn't have gone anywhere near a cage. He was 2-2 before the show for a reason. He should stick to BJJ comps.

Jules

LOL

Yeah remember he was toying with that dude, trying to gogoplata him. Funny.

[SPX]

Yeah remember he was toying with that dude, trying to gogoplata him. Funny.

Unless I'm mistaken, what I most remember about Jules was that he somehow beat a guy to get into the house and he ran around like he was a bad ass, yelling about how he "didn't throw a single punch." Then it was all downhill from there.

[edman5555]

It's not Vinny Maghalaes it's a different guy. Vinicius Magalhães

[SPX]

It's not Vinny Maghalaes it's a different guy. Vinicius Magalhães

LOL

Oh, my mistake.

[zY|]

It's not Vinny Maghalaes it's a different guy. Vinicius Magalhães

LOL

Didn't Vinny like flying armbar Pe De Pano last year at ADCC?

[MMA_scientist]

Vinicius Magalhaes = Draculinho.

Look up Draculinho... he is old, but a bjj pioneer. He has some awesome quotes and he punked out Eddie Bravo.

He said "My name is not a bone to be carried in a dog's mouth" = awesome.

He (directed at EB) said I will be there, just me and my balls for anyone who wants to challenge me. or something to that effect.

I was going to post about my excitement about him being on this card, but didn'y want to hear your hate flames.

Anyway Drac is a badass.

[MMA_scientist]

It's not Vinny Maghalaes it's a different guy. Vinicius Magalhães

LOL

Didn't Vinny like flying armbar Pe De Pano last year at ADCC?

Yeah, he is a really good grappler, but he has no takedowns and he hates getting hit.

If anyone is dumb enough to grapple with him, they will get messed up, but he doesnt have the other tools to force a grappling fight. I think the only guy to actuall get on the ground for a second and survive was Eliot Marshall.

[edman5555]

Vinicius Magalhaes = Draculinho.

Look up Draculinho... he is old, but a bjj pioneer. He has some awesome quotes and he punked out Eddie Bravo.

He said "My name is not a bone to be carried in a dog's mouth" = awesome.

He (directed at EB) said I will be there, just me and my balls for anyone who wants to challenge me. or something to that effect.

I was going to post about my excitement about him being on this card, but didn'y want to hear your hate flames.

Anyway Drac is a badass.


Your not a big fan of Eddie Bravo eh?

[MMA_scientist]

Your not a big fan of Eddie Bravo eh?

No. Not really.

[SPX]

No. Not really.

He's joking, Edman.

This nigga loves Eddie Bravo. He loves to tell his stories about the time he got to train with EB and how EB signed his gi.

[MMA_scientist]

Eddie wouldn't sign a gi. The gi is antiquated (yet somehow gi pants are a revolutionary training tool)

[SPX]

Eddie wouldn't sign a gi. The gi is antiquated (yet somehow gi pants are a revolutionary training tool)

Well then he signed your left tit.

[zY|]

Wait I'm confused. Which Vinicius Magalhaes is actually fighting? Earlier the wiki linked to the TUF fighter, and now it's Draculino.

[MMA_scientist]

lol.
Eddie is a fag, that's all I am sayin. Why are you trying to hijack the thread? Or are you just trying to get me to leave the forum permanently...

[MMA_scientist]

Wait I'm confused. Which Vinicius Magalhaes is actually fighting? Earlier the wiki linked to the TUF fighter, and now it's Draculino.

Drac is fighting.

[SPX]

lol.
Eddie is a fag, that's all I am sayin. Why are you trying to hijack the thread? Or are you just trying to get me to leave the forum permanently...

Nigga, you know I'm just fucking with you. Calm down.

[SPX]

Drac is fighting.

Is it really two different guys?

[MMA_scientist]

Drac is fighting.

Is it really two different guys?

Two totally different guys:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinicius_M ... (Draculino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinicius_Magalh%C3%A3es_(Draculino)) - Drac

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Magalh%C3%A3es - Vinny

[SPX]

Two totally different guys:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinicius_M ... (Draculino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinicius_Magalh%C3%A3es_(Draculino)) - Drac

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Magalh%C3%A3es - Vinny

Well that need to do something about that shit. One of them either needs to change their name or drop out of MMA.

That Draculino guy especially needs to be concerned, because people are going to confuse him with Mr. 4-5 all day long.

[MMA_scientist]

^ I don't think Drac has ever had a modern MMA fight. He is pretty old... I think about 40. He has gray hair. In bjj circles, everyone knows who Draculinho is... no one calls him Vinicius Magalhaes.

[Luke]

Are you guys seriously capping a fight using the wrong guy lol?

[SPX]

Are you guys seriously capping a fight using the wrong guy lol?

Don't act like you knew the difference.

[zY|]

Nobody is capping shit. Nobody has heard of his opponent, there will be no line, and the fight won't be shown. It might as well not be happening.

[MMA_scientist]

There is quite a bit of drama and excitement around the fight in the bjj nerd community. There is a long ass thread in the grappling technique section about it on SD

[Luke]

Are you guys seriously capping a fight using the wrong guy lol?

Don't act like you knew the difference.


LOL I wasnt trying to break down the fight either

[SPX]

LOL I wasnt trying to break down the fight either

If you saw "Randy Couture" on a card, you know you'd make assumptions.

[Luke]

LOL I wasnt trying to break down the fight either

If you saw "Randy Couture" on a card, you know you'd make assumptions.


Well yeah but I wouldnt if I saw Randy Coatre on the card

[SPX]

Well yeah but I wouldnt if I saw Randy Coatre on the card

Well Vinny's name isn't really Vinny. It's Vinicius.

[MMA_scientist]

I actually know who both of them are, and I still don't know the difference between the 2 names... is an H out of place or something?

[SPX]

I actually know who both of them are, and I still don't know the difference between the 2 names... is an H out of place or something?

According to Wikipedia, both names are spelled exactly the same. Tilday and all.

[Luke]

I actually know who both of them are, and I still don't know the difference between the 2 names... is an H out of place or something?

According to Wikipedia, both names are spelled exactly the same. Tilday and all.


So how do you know you got the right guy this time and it wasnt the right one last time ?

[SPX]

So how do you know you got the right guy this time and it wasnt the right one last time ?

Dude, I don't know shit.

[MMA_scientist]

^^ because I know that Drac is fighting on the card. I read it elsewhere, and like I said, it is a big whipty do in the bjj world.

[poopoo333]

Thoughts on Jacare/Kennedy?

[Luke]

^^ because I know that Drac is fighting on the card. I read it elsewhere, and like I said, it is a big whipty do in the bjj world.


hook ,line ,sinker


::lolzorz::

[MMA_scientist]

hook ,line ,sinker


::lolzorz::

damnit.

[Luke]

hook ,line ,sinker


::lolzorz::

damnit.


I was trying to screw with SPX not you ::handshake::

[SPX]

I was trying to screw with SPX not you ::handshake::

Dude, I thought we were friends. . .

[MMA_scientist]

Thoughts on Jacare/Kennedy?

My thouhts are that Kennedy is going to be a live dog. Jacare's hype is hugh right now... Kennedy looked great against Prangley. Jacare may not be able to control him or get him down... Jacare gassed against Villesenor.

I like Kennedy to shock the world, and I will be on him @ +170.

I don't know why I am telling you my strategies though, I need this for the contest.

[zY|]

^^ because I know that Drac is fighting on the card. I read it elsewhere, and like I said, it is a big whipty do in the bjj world.

So does it make you mad that to see the fight you'll probably have to hope for a handheld crowd video?

[Ludo]

Thoughts on Jacare/Kennedy?

My thouhts are that Kennedy is going to be a live dog. Jacare's hype is hugh right now... Kennedy looked great against Prangley. Jacare may not be able to control him or get him down... Jacare gassed against Villesenor.

I like Kennedy to shock the world, and I will be on him @ +170.

I don't know why I am telling you my strategies though, I need this for the contest.


Ah may not be a smart maeyan, but ah know what love eeeis

[Luke]

I was trying to screw with SPX not you ::handshake::

Dude, I thought we were friends. . .


I still owe you for the spammer situation

[Luke]

Thoughts on Jacare/Kennedy?


I'm really unsure of which side I like at the moment .It will depend alot on the line

[MMA_scientist]

So does it make you mad that to see the fight you'll probably have to hope for a handheld crowd video?

Furious.

[SPX]

I still owe you for the spammer situation

LOL@Luke

[zY|]

[quote="zY|":22jfnb55]
So does it make you mad that to see the fight you'll probably have to hope for a handheld crowd video?

Furious.[/quote:22jfnb55]

Pretty typical Strikeforce.

[MMA_scientist]

Its not a big fight though, so I understand. I mean, Drac is a 40 year old man with no fights.

It would be sort of weird if he was on the main card. There is a lot of interest, just because he is a well known teacher... but still. It would be like if Chael's wrestling trainer was fighting... who would give a shit except wrestling fanatics.

[zY|]

I just mean in the sense that it almost seems like Strikeforce don't even bother to film the undercard.

[Ludo]

They don't... I mean, unless your name is Mayhem.

[sideloaded]

5u on KINGMO
GIT DAT PAPA!
http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7927653844/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/06/27/untitled879.jpg

[sideloaded]

2u on Jacare.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/attachments/f12/31372d1133914098-outstanding-evolution-ronaldo-jacare-awsome-interview-jacare_jacarezando.jpg

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/304.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[SPX]

Fucking snap!

2u on Noons @ -170

[poopoo333]

I wonder if Gurgel is going to purposely strike with Noons to put another L on his record just to entertain the whole 500 people in the world that watch Strikeforce.

[SPX]

I wonder if Gurgel is going to purposely strike with Noons to put another L on his record just to entertain the whole 500 people in the world that watch Strikeforce.

That's what Gurgel does. And even if he decides he wants to do otherwise, his takedowns really aren't that awesome. Noons really should win this and I see his line has already moved to -205 on Sportsbook.

[poopoo333]

Remember when Conor Heun fought a close fight on the feet with Noons? I remember both of them gassed in that fight, and Gurgel beat Heun on the feet easily in Heun's previous fight.

[SPX]

Remember when Conor Heun fought a close fight on the feet with Noons? I remember both of them gassed in that fight, and Gurgel beat Heun on the feet easily in Heun's previous fight.

Let me watch Gurgel/Heun and I'll get back to you. . .

[sbjj]

2.5 units on Kennedy @ +260

[Luke]

2.5 units on Kennedy @ +260


Kennedy here also . No way that line should be that high .

[sbjj]

2.5 units on Kennedy @ +260


Kennedy here also . No way that line should be that high .

Best bet of the week, if not month IMO. The 2.5 units is a max for the site I placed it. I may go another Max bet at Bodog...or call my boy up in vegas, the Venetian might have a line up this thursday. +260 is a steal.

[poopoo333]

Too bad Jacare is going to win.


I had no idea this was Saturday.

[Luke]

Too bad Jacare is going to win.


.


dont be so sure

[sbjj]

Too bad Jacare is going to win.


I had no idea this was Saturday.

Please, bet him then. keep the kennedy price going my way.

[SPX]

So why the confidence in Kennedy?

[sbjj]

Why not have confidence in him? He is just now hitting his stride, and becoming the fighter he always had the potential to become. He will be VERY hard to take down and hold down, and may even put Jacare on his back. He will have the power advantage standing, and IF Jacare tires out like he did against joey, he is going to get mugged late in the fight.

I honestly do not think Kennedy should even be +140 here.

[SPX]

Why not have confidence in him? He is just now hitting his stride, and becoming the fighter he always had the potential to become. He will be VERY hard to take down and hold down, and may even put Jacare on his back. He will have the power advantage standing, and IF Jacare tires out like he did against joey, he is going to get mugged late in the fight.

I honestly do not think Kennedy should even be +140 here.

I'll admit that I don't know a lot about Kennedy.

However, I was not overly impressed with Jacare in his fight with Villasenor. He gassed as the fight went on and his striking was certainly suspect. I think this one will come down to Kennedy's takedown defense and cardio because I don't see many fighters outgrappling Jacare on the mat.

[Luke]

^^^^^ I thought the line should be Jacare -130 to -150

[poopoo333]

Too bad Jacare is going to win.


I had no idea this was Saturday.

Please, bet him then. keep the kennedy price going my way.

I probably will. But I have a hard time believing that my $26 would help the price for you at all.

[MMA_scientist]

5u on Noons @ -255

I need to look at Galvao's opponent, but that it is bettable... Galvao is (insert bjj world champ nuthugging comment).

[MMA_scientist]

Patino is a bjj stylist as well. He fought in some of the earlu UFCs. He is coming off of 6 decision, going 3-3 with losses to Roan Carneiro (no shame) and Kyacey Uscola (some shame). Galvao is (insert generic bjj world champ comment). He should be a better grappler at this point. He also has a takedown advantage, but I think Patino is going to want to grapple anyway.

Galvao is a stylistic lock. He looked like crap against Luke Stewart in his last fight, which I bet on. He got swept several times, which was really shocking. Anyway, Galvao is going to win. I am considering breaking my -250 here, because Patino has no outs.

[MMA_scientist]

Galvao down to -280, screw it, I am doing it.

2.8 on Galvao

[poopoo333]

Is Cormier worth it in your parlay?

[MMA_scientist]

Probably... good idea. I am going to look at his opponent. Cormier needs to chill though, he is fighting like every week.

[BillyPilgrim]

might drop .5u on Kennedy... I think he is going to give Jacare a hard time. Or get subbed immediately. Kennedy is just now training full time for the first time and he looked awesome against Prangley. Jacare did not impress against Villesenor. Still Jacare is going to rule him if Kennedy decides to engage him on the mat. Jacare has very good takedowns too. It really depends on if Kennedy tries to test the waters on the mat... that is where he usually fights. If he takes Jacare down, he will regret that decision. No way in hell he can top control him. Kennedy needs to keep the fight standing, if he can, which is questionable. I could see Kennedy taking rounds 2 and 3 though.

[zY|]

LOL at Billy Pilgrim.

Is Cormier really fighting again? That's badass, this will be his 3rd fight in 3 weeks. He's like, I got a Strikeforce fight coming up in 3 weeks, fuck it I'll just go win 2 HW titles in the meantime. No big deal.

[BillyPilgrim]

Cormier > Brock

[zY|]

Cormier > Brock

Yeah I heard he's going to squeeze in whipping up on Brock and snatching the UFC title after lunch tomorrow.

[BillyPilgrim]

I seriously think Cormier could beat Brock.

[Luke]

I seriously think Cormier could beat Brock.



you would

[zY|]

I agree with him. Brock is a paper champion. He's lucky the UFC never brought in Minowaman or he would've been heelhooked in 4 seconds.

[SPX]

I agree with him. Brock is a paper champion. He's lucky the UFC never brought in Minowaman or he would've been heelhooked in 4 seconds.

Oddly, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

[MMA_scientist]

Well Brock is really good at one thing, being a big dominant wrestler. Cormier is better at that thing... so I don't see why it is a crazy idea. Brock could not take Cormier down, guaranteed.

[SPX]

Well Brock is really good at one thing, being a big dominant wrestler. Cormier is better at that thing... so I don't see why it is a crazy idea. Brock could not take Cormier down, guaranteed.

Brock's striking isn't bad either.

[zY|]

Well Brock is really good at one thing, being a big dominant wrestler. Cormier is better at that thing... so I don't see why it is a crazy idea. Brock could not take Cormier down, guaranteed.

Brock's striking isn't bad either.

Yeah. He's awesome when he turns his head and puts his chin down with his hands straight out and runs backwards. That move is amazing.

[Luke]

Brock's striking isn't bad either.



http://e-basil.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_NotSureIfSerious.jpg

[poopoo333]

Yeah. He's awesome when he turns his head and puts his chin down with his hands straight out and runs backwards. That move is amazing.

I lol'd.

[SPX]

Yeah. He's awesome when he turns his head and puts his chin down with his hands straight out and runs backwards. That move is amazing.

Okay Mr. Negative. . .

I will admit that Brock showed some holes in his game when he was soundly outstruck by Herring. It was also telling when he rushed Randy and got elbowed in the face and later TKOd.

So now that I think about it, yeah, you're right. . .

[zY|]

Yeah. He's awesome when he turns his head and puts his chin down with his hands straight out and runs backwards. That move is amazing.

Okay Mr. Negative. . .

I will admit that Brock showed some holes in his game when he was soundly outstruck by Herring. It was also telling when he rushed Randy and got elbowed in the face and later TKOd.

So now that I think about it, yeah, you're right. . .

Watch your fucking self, that's a contributor you're talking to like that.

This is all irrelevant anyways. Once Cain takes out the trash in October, noone will ever talk about Lesnar again. He'll just be the answer to some esoteric MMA trivia question.

[poopoo333]

2.7u on Galvao @-270

[MMA_scientist]

2.7u on Galvao @-270

http://api.ning.com/files/02hhSO1vLgv4j-oWFk58wxbqwAFwIp9otMPXAamzdCUFgCZl-TazyOsfuNhKLyk1UccDYv1i*4OFONzn59CGjZBf8Q4lxYfQ/affleck_damon.0.0.0x0.400x555.jpeg

[poopoo333]

^^I didn't even know you bet on Galvao!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/2MenHugging.jpg/800px-2MenHugging.jpg

[MMA_scientist]

^^ yep, almost the exact same bet. WTF is that picture?

[poopoo333]

I don't know, I just google imaged "two guys hugging".


But I'm pretty sure it is sideloaded and luke.

[poopoo333]

Plays:

2.7u Galvao @-270
2.1u Jacare @-210
0.25u Gurgel @+230
0.85u Lawal, Lashley, Cormier @-169

[Mr. IWS]

0.85u Lawal, Lashley, Cormier @-169

BWPPFTW!

[Luke]

I don't know, I just google imaged "two guys hugging".


But I'm pretty sure it is sideloaded and luke.



::hatchett:: ::hatchett::

[Ludo]

Alright which one of you stepped on PP's rose garden? He's been tearing everyone up in this place for like the last two days.

[zY|]

Plays:

0.85u Lawal, Lashley, Cormier @-169

LOL

I quite like that.

[poopoo333]

Alright which one of you stepped on PP's rose garden? He's been tearing everyone up in this place for like the last two days.

Especially you in the contest.

[poopoo333]

Plays:

0.85u Lawal, Lashley, Cormier @-169

LOL

I quite like that.

Because they are all black wrestlers?

http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq214/P-manPic/DatsRacist.gif

[zY|]

Plays:

0.85u Lawal, Lashley, Cormier @-169

LOL

I quite like that.

Because they are all black wrestlers?

http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq214/P-manPic/DatsRacist.gif

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/zygote7/MMA/NpZfA.gif

[Ludo]

Alright which one of you stepped on PP's rose garden? He's been tearing everyone up in this place for like the last two days.

Especially you in the contest.

Them's fightin' words, homey.

[poopoo333]

Alright which one of you stepped on PP's rose garden? He's been tearing everyone up in this place for like the last two days.

Especially you in the contest.

Them's fightin' words, homey.

Seriously though, I would poopoo my pants if Jason Riley wins and you are right back up there.

[Ludo]

BOL yeah I would too. It'd be pretty awesome.

[SPX]

Someone break down King Mo/Cavalcante for me. . .

[Havis Jr]

Calvalcante's only chance is a ko/tko imo, but I don't think he will be throwing many big bombs or setting them up with kicks out of fear of taking getting taken down.

Also Mo really hasn't fought any great strikers yet, its something to consider, but I still think MO wins. I put him on some parlays but haven't bet him su yet.

[Svino]

I think Calvalcante's best hope is King Mo's gas tank. Mousasi is a pretty good striker who might well have been able to turn it around on Mo in the later rounds if he hadn't gassed also.

[sideloaded]

Calvalcante's only chance is a ko/tko imo, but I don't think he will be throwing many big bombs or setting them up with kicks out of fear of taking getting taken down.

Also Mo really hasn't fought any great strikers yet, its something to consider, but I still think MO wins. I put him on some parlays but haven't bet him su yet.

Mousasi was a K1 striker.

[poopoo333]

I am pretty sure Cavalcante was starting to slow down against Britt in only a round.

[SPX]

So we all agree Cavalcante needs a KO/TKO.

So now the question is: What is the likelihood? Does he do it more than 2 out of 10 fights?

[poopoo333]

So we all agree Cavalcante needs a KO/TKO.

So now the question is: What is the likelihood? Does he do it more than 2 out of 10 fights?

He is a black belt under the Nogueira brothers. A black belt from the Nogueira brothers is like a free toy in Happy Meal.

[SPX]

He is a black belt under the Nogueira brothers. A black belt from the Nogueira brothers is like a free toy in Happy Meal.

LOL

But seriously. . .

[zY|]

I think Calvalcante's best hope is King Mo's gas tank. Mousasi is a pretty good striker who might well have been able to turn it around on Mo in the later rounds if he hadn't gassed also.

I don't see it though. Mo has been 5 rounds, Feijao hasn't. Mo is working with Chaimberg for strength and conditioning since after the Mousasi fight, who is pretty much the best.

[SPX]

So is Mo worth a bet at -435?

Yes or no?

[zY|]

So is Mo worth a bet at -435?

Yes or no?

Not for me.

He's going to win though.

[sideloaded]

Parlay Mo with Noons.

[Thewiseman]

.5u on Gurgel @+205

[poopoo333]

Parlay Mo with Noons.

Noons is going to lose.

[zY|]

Parlay Mo with Noons.

Noons is going to lose.

You think so?

[SPX]

I've already got 2u on Noons so he better not lose.

[SPX]

Not for me.

He's going to win though.

Well personally betting philosophies aside, do you think Mo wins 8 out of 10 times?

[zY|]

Not for me.

He's going to win though.

Well personally betting philosophies aside, do you think Mo wins 8 out of 10 times?

I think so. Early KO seems the only out imo.

[SPX]

I think so. Early KO seems the only out imo.

This is what I'm thinking, too. . .

[poopoo333]

Parlay Mo with Noons.

Noons is going to lose.

You think so?

I think it will be closer then people think at least.

[SPX]

I think it will be closer then people think at least.

Gurgel better bring his A++++ game rather than that weak ass shit we've seen lately.

[Mr. IWS]

He better bring his fuckin ground game for once.

[SPX]

Strikeforce “Houston”
Saturday, Aug. 21
Toyota Center
Houston

Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Championship
Muhammed “King Mo” Lawal (203.75) vs. Rafael “Feijao” Cavalcante (203.5)

Strikeforce Middleweight Championship
Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza (184.75) vs. Tim Kennedy (185)

* Karl James Noons (156.25) vs. Jorge Gurgel (154.75)
Bobby Lashley (246) vs. Chad Griggs (228.5)
Daniel Cormier (249) vs. Jason Riley (256.5)
Andre Galvao (170.75) vs. Jorge “Macaco” Patino (Did Not Weigh In)
Vinicius Magalhaes (144.5) vs. Rocky Long (146.25) **
Kier Gooch (155.5) vs. Adam Schindler (155.5)
Jose Santibanez (154.25) vs. Reynaldo Trujillo (155.25)
Humberto DeLeon (127.25) vs. Chad Robichaux (131) ***
Chad Cook (205.25) vs. Arteneus Young (204)

* Gurgel immediately waived off Noons' .25 pounds overage and accepted the fight.

** Long weighed in .25 pounds above the limit, but the fight will go forward after Magalhaes accepted it at a catchweight.

*** Robichaux has one hour to drop one pound. Texas does not afford one-pound allowances for catchweight fights.

[SPX]

What the fuck is up with Patino not weighing in?

[zY|]

He's that badass. And wtf, I was thinking this was tonight.

[Luke]

So is Mo worth a bet at -435?

Yes or no?


Mo wins but I'm not betting -435.

Lines that high is for locks only and this isnt a lock.

[Luke]

What the fuck is up with Patino not weighing in?


maybe he was busy

[SPX]

Mo wins but I'm not betting -435.

Lines that high is for locks only and this isnt a lock.

I'm trying to get back to trusting in the percentages.

[SPX]

maybe he was busy

Yeah, just had some other shit to do, apparently. . .

[Ludo]

Maybe he pulled a line from Step Brothers by lifting his shirt and being like "I haven't had a carb since 2004, You see these? See these boys? This is what I live with." and thats why they didn't make him weigh in ::thumbup::

[SPX]

Just watched some Kennedy vids. His grappling is obviously very good, but his striking is pretty shitty. With the way you guys were talking, I was expecting him to be someone who could hang on the ground until Jacare gassed out and then move in for a KO.

[Ludo]

Just watched some Kennedy vids. His grappling is obviously very good, but his striking is pretty shitty. With the way you guys were talking, I was expecting him to be someone who could hang on the ground until Jacare gassed out and then move in for a KO.


There aren't many guys in the world who can hang on the ground with Jacare without getting subbed. I think on his entire MMA record only two people have ever taken him to decision. Admittedly I don't know much about Kennedy but I wouldn't hinge a bet on him being able to last on the ground against a grappler as purely aggressive as Jacare. Dude put Randy Couture in major trouble during that Grapple X tournament thing they had and Couture has an olympic level greco base but even he refused to go down to the ground with Jacare if he could help it.

[SPX]

There aren't many guys in the world who can hang on the ground with Jacare without getting subbed. I think on his entire MMA record only two people have ever taken him to decision. Admittedly I don't know much about Kennedy but I wouldn't hinge a bet on him being able to last on the ground against a grappler as purely aggressive as Jacare. Dude put Randy Couture in major trouble during that Grapple X tournament thing they had and Couture has an olympic level greco base but even he refused to go down to the ground with Jacare if he could help it.

Villasenor spent a lot of time on the ground in their fight and made it to the end. Jason Miller did the same (and Kennedy is 1-1 against Miller). Their aggressive grappling is actually very similar. Kennedy is always moving, switching position, looking for subs. . . I think he CAN survive with Jacare. The question is will he, and the even better question is will he not just survive but actually win.

If you haven't seen them, you may want to watch his fights with Prangley, Thompson and Cummings. The vids are all out there.

I went ahead and dropped .55u on Kennedy at +190. I'd feel a lot better about that bet, though, if he brought some good striking with KO power into this thing.

[SPX]

I don't know anything about Chad Griggs, but he's 8-1 and has experience in the IFL.

Based on that alone, I think he might be worth a bet at the crazy ass line that's out there right now.

[poopoo333]

How can you bet against this guy?

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/354127/bobbylashley.jpg

[Luke]

I went ahead and dropped .55u on Kennedy at +190. I'd feel a lot better about that bet, though, if he brought some good striking with KO power into this thing.


Gl unless something chances I'll probably be beating Kennedy too

[Luke]

Tim Kennedy +190 1 unit to win 1.90

[SPX]

Noons all the way up to -500 on Sportsbook.

[Mr. IWS]

Im sitting this one out tonight. Was gonna do a black power parlay of Cormier and Lashley, but pussied out.

Will root you guys home.

[Luke]

Will root you guys home.


::handshake::

[SPX]

Im sitting this one out tonight. Was gonna do a black power parlay of Cormier and Lashley, but pussied out.

Will root you guys home.

Yeah, not sure about that BPP. You never know when the Klan's gonna come in and fuck shit up.

[Mr. IWS]

^^^^^^Tru dat honkey.

[Ludo]

1.1u to win 2u on Cormier, Lashley, Noons, Lawal, and Souza.

[poopoo333]

Im sitting this one out tonight. Was gonna do a black power parlay of Cormier and Lashley, but pussied out.

Will root you guys home.

Pussy. My black power parlay has Mo, Lashley, and Cormier.

[Mr. IWS]

Pussy. My black power parlay has Mo, Lashley, and Cormier.

I hang my head in shame. Forgive me.

[poopoo333]

Pussy. My black power parlay has Mo, Lashley, and Cormier.

I hang my head in shame. Forgive me.

It's ok, I have a feeling Lashley is going to fuck it up.

[Mr. IWS]

what time this undercard jumpin off tonight?

[zY|]

630 central on sherdog.com

[Mr. IWS]

630 central on sherdog.com
::handshake::

[zY|]

Well shit that's what it said yesterday. Now it says 8cst.

[Ludo]

Well there's fighting going on as of now. Artenas Young def. Chad Cook via unanimous decision (30-27, 29-28, 30-27).

[Svino]

Well there's fighting going on as of now. Artenas Young def. Chad Cook via unanimous decision (30-27, 29-28, 30-27).

Did you see the video of that on Sherdog?

For me, the player isn't showing anything right now, but for about 5 seconds, I was getting the feed for that first fight.

[zY|]

Well there's fighting going on as of now. Artenas Young def. Chad Cook via unanimous decision (30-27, 29-28, 30-27).

Did you see the video of that on Sherdog?

For me, the player isn't showing anything right now, but for about 5 seconds, I was getting the feed for that first fight.

Weird.

They were only supposed to be showing two fights, the Cormier and Galvao fights.

[Svino]

Weird.

They were only supposed to be showing two fights, the Cormier and Galvao fights.

Yeah, that's what I thought. But since my "noscript" sometimes messes stuff up, I just wanted to check to see if anyone else was getting video.

It was probably just a mistake when they were setting up their system.

[zY|]

Mine just randomly started playing about 10 seconds of some fight.

[poopoo333]

Plays:

2.7u Galvao @-270
2.1u Jacare @-210
0.25u Gurgel @+230
0.85u Lawal, Lashley, Cormier @-169
0.1u Lawal, Lashley, Cormier, Galvao, Gurgel, Jacare @+1037

[Mr. IWS]

0.85u Lawal, Lashley, Cormier @-169


Jump down, turn around, pick a bail of cotton. ::thumbup::

[zY|]

Here's the PBP for the Draculino fight from Sherdog.

Vinicius Magalhaes vs. Rocky Long
Round 1
Magalhaes and Long trade pawing strikes early before the BJJ black belt hits a takedown. Long tries to sprawl but is caught in a heel hook. He rolls and rolls and eventually frees himself from the submission. Magalhaes leans on Long as he clings to a front headlock along the cage until the bell sounds. Sherdog.com scores the round 10-9 for Magalhaes.

Round 2
A minute into the second round and the action has consisted of a low kick each. The crowd begins to grow a little restless as the fighters dance in the center of the cage. Two minutes in and nothing has changed. With 45 seconds left, Magalhaes drives in and clinches Long against the cage. He can’t get him to the ground before the round ends and the crowd voices their displeasure. Sherdog.com scores the round 10-10.

Round 3
There is another minute of dancing to kick off the third round. This is getting ridiculous. “Draculino” finally gets the fight back to the ground and easily takes Long’s back. He works for a rear-naked choke but can’t sink the submission before the round ends. Sherdog.com scores the round 10-9 for Magalhaes.

[SPX]

Jump down, turn around, pick a bail of cotton. ::thumbup::

That's racist.

[Mr. IWS]

I thought Magalhaes was the guy that got ko's by Bader on the Tuf finale a couple years back. Its there two of those niggas?

[Mr. IWS]

Jump down, turn around, pick a bail of cotton. ::thumbup::

That's racist.

I dunno. I thought it was a lyric from a song.

[zY|]

I thought Magalhaes was the guy that got ko's by Bader on the Tuf finale a couple years back. Its there two of those niggas?

Yeah, Scientist learned us on it earlier. He's some older BJJ guy who supposedly runs shit.

[Mr. IWS]

[quote="IWS Zak":swk5lj4m]I thought Magalhaes was the guy that got ko's by Bader on the Tuf finale a couple years back. Its there two of those niggas?

Yeah, Scientist learned us on it earlier. He's some older BJJ guy who supposedly runs shit.[/quote:swk5lj4m]

aware

[Mr. IWS]

Gerard Butler is a fuckin bad ass in Law abiding citizen.

[Svino]

0.1u Lawal, Lashley, Cormier, Galvao, Gurgel, Jacare @+1037

You know, I can imagine this one hitting.

I have bets to win 1U on each of Galvao and Noons, myself.

[Mr. IWS]

Do yo thang Svino ::thumbup::

[Mr. IWS]

Any Luke sightings tonight? Or is he cleaning his $700 cups and spoons?

[poopoo333]

Tonight is the night I win the contest.

[SPX]

I thought Magalhaes was the guy that got ko's by Bader on the Tuf finale a couple years back. Its there two of those niggas?

You apparently missed this discussion earlier in the month.

[SPX]

Any Luke sightings tonight? Or is he cleaning his $700 cups and spoons?

My guess is he'll be around once the main card starts.

I'd text him but I cleared out all the messages that had his new number in it.

[Ludo]

Tonight is the night I win the contest.


Fuck no you don't... You watch I'm gonna come out of nowhere and rape you all to reclaim My rightful place at number one!

[poopoo333]

LETS GO GALVAO

[poopoo333]

Tonight is the night I win the contest.


Fuck no you don't... You watch I'm gonna come out of nowhere and rape you all to reclaim My rightful place at number one!

I am thinking it's either going to be:

1. An obscene amount of dogs win tonight, and it goes to you.

or

2. It's a tight race between me, SPX, and high5

[Ludo]

I'll take option 1.

[SPX]

I am thinking it's either going to be:

1. An obscene amount of dogs win tonight, and it goes to you.

or

2. It's a tight race between me, SPX, and high5

LOL, no faith in zY, I see.

[Mr. IWS]

stream just in case.........

http://www.sherdog.com/events/Strikeforce-Houston-14023

[SPX]

I see they didn't put a lot of thought into the sound design for this stream. . .

[zY|]

Is that MIletich commentating by himself?

[Svino]

Is that MIletich commentating by himself?

I think so. Weird listening to a single guy commentating.

[Ludo]

10-9 Petino

[Mr. IWS]

http://images.athlonsports.com/d/8915-1/RickPitino1.jpg

doin werk

[zY|]

I'm glad I bet on Galvao.

[Svino]

Looks like I should have learned my lesson from the last Galvao bet that was way too close.

[SPX]

Interesting.

Supposedly this Patino guy knocked out Jacare in Jacare's first fight. I'm trying to figure out how they were ever in the same weight class.

[zY|]

Looks like I should have learned my lesson from the last Galvao bet that was way too close.

I know, right.

And Galvao's standup is horrendous. Petino has no footwork and throws the same gay combination over and over and Galvao still got hit by it.

[poopoo333]

Galvao better keep this on the mat.

[SPX]

Patino looks very unconcerned about anything in there.

He's straight chillin'.

[zY|]

You just like him because he's short.

[poopoo333]

Awesome cardio being displayed by these two.

[SPX]

You just like him because he's short.

Shit, aren't they both short?

[zY|]

Extremely gay stoppage, but whew!

[Mr. IWS]

Yo, whats that way Luke said, to send money via paypal without any fees being taken out. Was it, sending a gift?

[SPX]

Yo, whats that way Luke said, to send money via paypal without any fees being taken out. Was it, sending a gift?

Yeah.

[Svino]

Extremely gay stoppage, but whew!

Yeah. I'll take the win, but we gotta stop doing this, Galvao.

[SPX]

Extremely gay stoppage, but whew!

Yeah. I almost followed on Galvao but I wasn't sure about dropping money at -280 on a 4-1 guy against a veteran.

Wish I had now, but I still wouldn't at that line after seeing this fight.

[Mr. IWS]

I really like Jacarae tonight. but alas, my vagina is tight, and will not allow for a wager.

[poopoo333]

LOL at that stoppage, the ref lets Galvao get out of round 1 and he stopped that?

But good for us money wise.

[Havis Jr]

riley/souza parlay .1u for 1u lol ::thumbdown::

[Svino]

LOL, Cormier's fight.

[poopoo333]

That was easy.

[Ludo]

LOL, Cormier's fight.


Looks like there was value at -1500