WEC 50: Cruz vs. Benavidez - Aug 18th

[Luke]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/299.png

[Thewiseman]

2.8U to win 2u on Cruz. The only difference between this fight and the 1st fight is Cruz will beat him in 5 rds instead of 3.

[SPX]

I like Cruz at that line. I hope it holds until I get home.

[Luke]

I like Cruz at that line. I hope it holds until I get home.



Get home? Are you at work today?

[SPX]

Get home? Are you at work today?

I am. We always have to have people here in case someone decides to try to get some work done. Even on Christmas.

[Luke]

I am. We always have to have people here in case someone decides to try to get some work done. Even on Christmas.


::thumbdown::

[SPX]

::thumbdown::

Word. It sucks, but it's superslow and I get holiday pay, so fuck it.

[Luke]

Urjah Faber's out of WEC 50 with an injury

[SPX]

Urjah Faber's out of WEC 50 with an injury

Well son of a bitch. That sucks.

[Luke]

Looking to watch the first Benavidez vs Cruz fight ,anyone got a link?

[poopoo333]

Looking to watch the first Benavidez vs Cruz fight ,anyone got a link?

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Joseph_ ... 68&tid=100 (http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Joseph_Benavidez_vs_Dominick_Cruz_WEC_42?vid=1000 5968&tid=100)

[Luke]

Looking to watch the first Benavidez vs Cruz fight ,anyone got a link?

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Joseph_ ... 68&tid=100 (http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Joseph_Benavidez_vs_Dominick_Cruz_WEC_42?vid=1000 5968&tid=100)


thanks poopoo . ::handshake::


It only took me a month to find a link lol

[SPX]

Benavidez pretty much got knocked around and grapplefucked for three rounds.

Wish I had gotten Cruz at the opening line because I don't really think he's bettable at this point.

[Havis Jr]

2.5u on Roller @-155

I also like Jorgenson, Mendes, Paixao, and Njokuami.

[MMA_scientist]

^^ how do you see Roller/Pettis going down?

I am actually favoring Pettis to create some scrambles and catch something with his more dynamic attack

[Luke]

Benavidez pretty much got knocked around and grapplefucked for three rounds.

Wish I had gotten Cruz at the opening line because I don't really think he's bettable at this point.


I watched the fight about 5 times in the last day and I think at the current line Benavidez is the play.

[SPX]

I watched the fight about 5 times in the last day and I think at the current line Benavidez is the play.

5 times? That's some serious research right there.

[Luke]

I watched the fight about 5 times in the last day and I think at the current line Benavidez is the play.

5 times? That's some serious research right there.


LOL thats nothing I usually watch fights upto 10 times when its a rematch

Normally if its not a rematch I wach fights 1-2 times but if its a remach I watch them alot more. I bet I watched Henderson-Cerrone I 10 times

[Havis Jr]

^^ how do you see Roller/Pettis going down?

I am actually favoring Pettis to create some scrambles and catch something with his more dynamic attack


I think Shane's wrestling is enough to hold Pettis down for 3 rounds. Shane has better wrestling then Karalexis and I think shane will pressure with takedowns consistently enough to stop any devastating strikes. Shane did this with Njokuani without taking any damage. I plan on betting another 3-4u on my other 4 picks depending on the lines but I like 2.5u on Roller.

[zY|]

Benavidez pretty much got knocked around and grapplefucked for three rounds.

Wish I had gotten Cruz at the opening line because I don't really think he's bettable at this point.


I watched the fight about 5 times in the last day and I think at the current line Benavidez is the play.

Cruz is going to win again and I've never actually seen the fight.

[Luke]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^LOLZ ^^^^^^^^^

[Thewiseman]

1u on Cruz/Benavidez going the distance @+150

[sideloaded]

2u on Roller.

[poopoo333]

It would be nice if the rest of the lines would come out.

[poopoo333]

Cruz has the edge, but I think the value lies with Benavidez. Benavidez by guillotine.



0.5u on Benavidez @+215

[SPX]

Cruz has the edge, but I think the value lies with Benavidez. Benavidez by guillotine.



0.5u on Benavidez @+215

I'm really on the fence with this one. Cruz's domination of Benavidez in their first fight, as well as his clear victory over Bowles (broken hand be damned), makes me reluctant to bet on Benavidez.

Also, it's worth noting that Cruz has only lost ONCE . . . to Urijah Faber.

[MMA_scientist]

what does everyone else think about Roller/Pettis?

[SPX]

what does everyone else think about Roller/Pettis?

I think that Pettis will have a clear advantage in the standup, but he will more then likely get Pettis down. The question, really, is whether or not Pettis can either get back to his feet and land a KO shot at some point within the three rounds, or if he can possibly catch a sub (he seems to be a solid BJJ guy and has several subs on his record).

If he can't do one or the other, then Roller probably wins a decision via control.

[poopoo333]

what does everyone else think about Roller/Pettis?

What SPX said, even though Pettis was my first instinct.

[SPX]

What SPX said, even though Pettis was my first instinct.

I like Pettis at the current line. Bendo was able to get the TKO over Roller, and if he can do it then Pettis, who has quite a bit more power in his strikes I think, should be able to do it as well . . . if he can connect.

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/299.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[Havis Jr]

2u jorgensen
1.5u paixo

Thinking about nkouani/mendes/randy parlay when the lines come out for 5dimes

[poopoo333]

2u jorgensen
1.5u paixo

Thinking about nkouani/mendes/randy parlay when the lines come out for 5dimes

Why did you make those bets?



I am having a hard time finding working videos.

[Havis Jr]

2u jorgensen
1.5u paixo

Thinking about nkouani/mendes/randy parlay when the lines come out for 5dimes

Why did you make those bets?



I am having a hard time finding working videos.

Jorgenson has looked good in all his fights. I haven't seen him in trouble with subs or strikes, if he loses it's a close fights that could have gone either way. (Buenelos and damacio page(his first wec fight)). I don't think Brad is quick enough to ko him and even if he is winning on the feet jorgenson will take it to the ground, he is excellent at mixing strikes and take downs. Pickett has a lot of submissions and if he wins that's how, but I think if Jorgenson had a weakness in sub d it would have been exposed by now this is his 9th fight in the wec.

Paixo is fighting Caraway. Both look like bjj guys, I'm betting the brazilian is better.

[poopoo333]

Paixo is fighting Caraway. Both look like bjj guys, I'm betting the brazilian is better.

Yeah I went and checked these guys out. Paixao has to be the better BJJ guy. He is a black belt, and Caraway isn't (that I know of).

"Paixao is one top grapplers in the world earning his black belt under the legendary Osvaldo Alves in 1998.[1]

He has won multiple world championships as a black belt. He took first place in the Mundials 2001, 2002, and 2005. In addition, he finished second in 2004 and third in 2005.

In May of 2010, Paixao defeated Caol Uno in a No-Gi Jiu-Jitsu match at the UFC Fan Expo held in Las Vegas at UFC 114.[2]"


Caraway was subbed by Hominick who is a stand up guy. He also doesn't really have any notable wins. The only thing he has going for him is that he is having sex with the girl in my avatar at a regular basis.

[MMA_scientist]

Paixao/Caraway... exactly my type of fight. I have a lot to say about that fight.

Paixao (insert generic bjj comment). His striking sucks pretty hard. His takedowns are not super awesome, but the usually get the job done.

Caraway (insert generic bjj comment). Caraway wrestled in college a little. He fought Wilson Reis, which probably says a lot about how this fight will play out. Reis was taking him down at will... Caraway wanted to play guard. Wilson's takedowns are a lot better than Fredson's.

Here is the vid: http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Wilson_ ... 0944&tid=0 (http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Wilson_Reis_vs__Brian_Caraway_EliteXC?vid=1000094 4&tid=0)

Here is Paixao's takedown in action: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7yat4 ... enny_sport (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7yat4_fredson-paixao-vs-thomas-denny_sport)

[poopoo333]

I was hoping you would weigh in on this fight BJJ_Scientist. You gonna bet Paixao?

[MMA_scientist]

I am not allowed to talk about bjj on the forum anymore.

I am going to look at a couple more or Caraway's fights before I make a decision.

[poopoo333]

I am not allowed to talk about bjj on the forum anymore.

I am going to look at a couple more or Caraway's fights before I make a decision.

COME ON MAN!!!!!!!! DUDE MAN!!!!! WHY MAN!!!!

[MMA_scientist]

You know everything I know here... Paixao should have the advantage on the ground, you already know that. Watch the Reis fight. I need to look at Caraway's other fights to see his takedown defense and his usual strategy. We know Paixao's strategy is going to be get a takedown. So I need to see if Caraway can stop it or if he will play along and try to beat him at his own game, like he did with Reis.

[MMA_scientist]

3u on Jorgenson @-215. That line seems wrong. Picket is a nice brawler, but he is going to get put on his back by Scottie. Pickett won his last fight by multiple takedowns. He is not going to guillotine Jorgenson. Jorgenson is the play.

EDIT: nevermind. Tried to place the bet and BM doesn't have the lines yet. Hopefully the line will hold, but he will probably drop too low.

[poopoo333]

I am not allowed to talk about bjj on the forum anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba5rQYwl ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba5rQYwl5b0&feature=related)

[Luke]

I am not allowed to talk about bjj on the forum anymore.

.


::lmao::

[Mr. IWS]

Paixao (insert generic bjj comment).

Caraway (insert generic bjj comment).

Correct me if Im wrong, but is this the first reverse troll job in IWS history?

[Thewiseman]

Free roling on Cruz
Cruz to win .7u
Cruz/Benavidez goes the distance 1u to win 1.5u
Roller 1.65u to win 1u
Jorgensen 2.15u to win 1u

[poopoo333]

2.25u on Jorgensen @-225
0.5u on Benavidez @+215


I am probably going to bet on Paixao, I am waiting on Scientist's thoughts on Caraway's TDD though.

[SPX]

Anyone got any thoughts on Jansen/Lamas?

[Havis Jr]

I'm looking at some fights now, but from first look Jensen is a team quest fighter with some good wrestling despite not wrestling in college from the looks of it. He will probably try to sprawl and brawl against Lamas (d3 ncaa all america/purple belt). Lamas will probably want to fight on the ground he may be able to get it there. Both look like up and comers with strong records, I probably won't make a play though.

[Havis Jr]

Who did you think will win spx?


I just watched lamas v casmir and lamas striking looks pretty damn good as well. I don't really see a path to victory for jensen... maybe top control ud, but I doubt it.

[MMA_scientist]

3u on Jorgenson @ -215

[poopoo333]

3u on Jorgenson @ -215

No Paixao?

[MMA_scientist]

Still haven't looked at Caraway. I will in a bit. I am getting my obvious bets out first.

[MMA_scientist]

Ok poopoo.

I am on Paixao. I have a lot of really persuasive reasons:

1) Paixao lost a wrongly scored split decision to Cole Province. Province is a 4X DII AA, and a 2x DII champion. Really good wrestler. Paixao won, but got screwed. Then Province tested positive and it was a NC. See PBP here, and SD gave the fight to Paixao... decision was booed: http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/WEC-42 ... Play-19010 (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/WEC-42-Play-by-Play-19010)

2) Generic bjj comment.

3) I think Paixao may actually have a striking and takedown advantage too. Caraway is a grappler, he is not going to do shit to Paixao, except maybe be on top position while losing the grappling match.

2u on Paixao @ -180

[SPX]

Who did you think will win spx?


I just watched lamas v casmir and lamas striking looks pretty damn good as well. I don't really see a path to victory for jensen... maybe top control ud, but I doubt it.

I need to go back and watch some tape, but when I first saw the line my thought was that Lamas might be worth a play. Jansen looked decent against Crunkilton, while 16-3, doesn't have any wins over guys that I know anything about. Shalorus clearly beat Jansen, though. Lamas also has a wrestling background, so he may be able to sprawl and brawl, and I do think his striking will be better than Jansen's.

[SPX]

2) Generic bjj comment.


Okay, dude. Seriously. If you have worthwhile insight then you need to say it.

[poopoo333]

That is basically what I saw, but I never really looked at Caraway except for his last fight against Hominick and I saw most of his fights are against guys with bad records.


Scientist, we ride together, we die together.

1.8u on Paxiao @-180

[SPX]

Scientist, we ride together, we die together.


Someone call the undertaker. . . We'll need a plot for two. . .

[MMA_scientist]

Scientist, we ride together, we die together.

1.8u on Paxiao @-180

http://www.posters.ws/images/340042/frank_sinatra_dean_martin.jpg

[poopoo333]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TY3EzuetPjg/SUeSq5Wx24I/AAAAAAAADvA/1LJmj4kbRYY/s400/BADBOYS3_001.jpg

[SPX]

.5u on Cub Swanson @ +245 for no other reason than the fact that he shouldn't be +245 to anyone in the division, except maybe Aldo.

[poopoo333]

.5u on Cub Swanson @ +245 for no other reason than the fact that he shouldn't be +245 to anyone in the division, except maybe Aldo.

You only like him because he let Jens Pulver win.

[SPX]

You only like him because he let Jens Pulver win.

Where's my banhammer?

[Mr. IWS]

.5u on Cub Swanson @ +245 for no other reason than the fact that he shouldn't be +245 to anyone in the division, except maybe Aldo.

You only like him because he let Jens Pulver win.

::haptime:: ::haptime:: ::haptime::

[BillyPilgrim]

hai guys.

[Mr. IWS]

hai guys.

OMG literally cracking the fuck up right now.

[Luke]

hai guys.



lol ::lmao:: wtf is that?

[zY|]

.5u on Cub Swanson @ +245 for no other reason than the fact that he shouldn't be +245 to anyone in the division, except maybe Aldo.

You only like him because he let Jens Pulver win.

Damn. That's fucking vicious, man.

[SPX]

Damn, what the fuck happened. Money's coming in on Lamas now?

[Mr. IWS]

Damn, what the fuck happened. Money's coming in on Lamas now?


http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/f/4/2/9/Lorenzo_Lamas_Presents_23fa.jpg?adImageId=956574&imageId=4684241

[SPX]

He was a cop . . . and good at his job . . .

[SPX]

Fuck it.

Taking Cruz for 2.5u at -220.

[SPX]

Cruz looks fucking ready:


http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/570/_images/headers/20100817043714_Untitled1.JPG

[sideloaded]

^^^^^^^^^^^^
MMM... I want his hot sperm in my mouth right now!!!!

[SPX]

^^^^^^^^^^^^
MMM... I want his hot sperm in my mouth right now!!!!

This again?

[Luke]

^^^^^^^^^^^^
MMM... I want his hot sperm in my mouth right now!!!!






..............

[poopoo333]

^^^^^^^^^^^^
MMM... I want his hot sperm in my mouth right now!!!!

That's what your Mom told your Dad when I walked by them at Walmart.

[zY|]

You shop at Walmart?

[Luke]

You shop at Walmart?



poopoo is one of these people:


http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

[poopoo333]

You shop at Walmart?

I don't shop anywhere, I am 19 and I live at home with my family.


BUT, they shop at Walmart. In Florida we don't really have much but Walmart and Publix. And Publix charges like $6 for a jar of peanut butter.

[zY|]

LOL

I shop at Walmart too. Where in Florida are you?

[poopoo333]

LOL

I shop at Walmart too. Where in Florida are you?

Sarasota county. I would mention my town but there is a 95% chance you have never heard of it even though it is one of the biggest towns in FL landwise. You live in FL?

[zY|]

Nah, I'm over here in MS.

[Ludo]

It's official, Luke.

zY=poopoo333

[poopoo333]

It's official, Luke.

zY=poopoo333

Nope. I am not retarded and thought that Alves was going to beat Fitch.

[Ludo]

It's official, Luke.

zY=poopoo333

Nope. I am not retarded and thought that Alves was going to beat Fitch.

Ouch town: population, zY.

[Luke]

LMAO @ Ludo's sigs ::lmao::

[zY|]

you think you ball well I palm it
I throw up bombs when I vomit
boy I throw down in the kitchen might hit your mom with my omlette
but you got egg on your face now watch me drop an atomic

[zY|]

BTW I called Edgar/Penn. You can all eat my ass.

[SPX]

BTW I called Edgar/Penn. You can all eat my ass.

But did you BET on Edgar?

Because I did. . .

[poopoo333]

.5u on Cub Swanson @ +245 for no other reason than the fact that he shouldn't be +245 to anyone in the division, except maybe Aldo.

He is +300 now.


http://knowyourmeme.com/i/29357/original/u_mad.jpg

[zY|]

Damn. poopoo is PPing in everyone's cereal today

[SPX]

He is +300 now.


I saw that. Maybe I'll be mildly irritated if he actually wins.

[poopoo333]

Is it racist that I think Njokuani and Anthony Johnson are the same people?

[Luke]

Is it racist that I think Njokuani and Anthony Johnson are the same people?


not Anthony Johson but I had to do a double take because I thought it was a picture of Phil Davis

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t233/luke1899/phil-davis.jpg


http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t233/luke1899/anthony-njokuani.jpg

[poopoo333]

Is it racist that I think Njokuani and Anthony Johnson are the same people?

Person*

[ManBoobKilla]

Was on Vasquez until I saw this weigh in pic. Damn Semerzier looks huge. I think I might make a play on him. What do you guys think? Also think that Mickelwright is worth a play @ +200

http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/wec-50-cruz-vs-benavidez/javier-vazquez-mackens-semerzier.JPG

[SPX]

Why MBK, wherever have you been?

At the current odds, Mackens may be worth a play. As for Micklewright, I don't know much about him, but I do know he's undefeated so it's possible he'll just come in and take care of business.

[ManBoobKilla]

Why MBK, wherever have you been?

At the current odds, Mackens may be worth a play. As for Micklewright, I don't know much about him, but I do know he's undefeated so it's possible he'll just come in and take care of business.

Lol After being laid off for a year I finally got a job a month ago so now I dont havbe tim eusually to get on here. Plus I have a year and a half old and for some reason he hates it when I get on the computer lol. Anyways ya i think I might put a unit on Mackens. I mean I know that Vasquez has better BJJ and supposedly better wrestling but Mackens is no slouch either and I think the size advantage will pay divedends.

[Mr. IWS]

Lol After being laid off for a year I finally got a job a month ago

Good to hear that man. I know how that shit is.

[poopoo333]

Plays (I'm not going to say final plays because I will be watching this at home, and you know how I am the ultimate chaser):

0.33u on Swanson @+300
0.5u on Pettis @+150
1.8u on Paixao @-180
2.25u on Jorgensen @-225
0.5u on Benavidez @+215

[SPX]

So what's the reasoning for Jorgensen and Paixao again?

[poopoo333]

So what's the reasoning for Jorgensen and Paixao again?

Paixao (insert generic BJJ comment here)
Jorgensen has vitiligo.

[SPX]

Jorgensen has vitiligo.

What?

[poopoo333]

Jorgensen has vitiligo.

What?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vitiligo

[SPX]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vitiligo

Sound reasoning for a bet.

[poopoo333]

Ok fine. I think Paxiao will sub Caraway, and I think Jorgensen will be able to keep the fight standing or even put Pickett on his back and keep him there. Jorgensen is going to win the title as well after he beats Pickett.

[SPX]

Ok fine. I think Paxiao will sub Caraway, and I think Jorgensen will be able to keep the fight standing or even put Pickett on his back and keep him there. Jorgensen is going to win the title as well after he beats Pickett.

I've been looking for a reason to bet on Jorgensen. He's looked good in every fight that I've seen. But I really don't know much about Pickett and I'm reluctant to bet against a guy who's 19-4 and has won both of his WEC fights he's had.

[MMA_scientist]

So what's the reasoning for Jorgensen and Paixao again?

Paixao (insert generic BJJ comment here)
Jorgensen has vitiligo.

LMAO.

[MMA_scientist]

Ok fine. I think Paxiao will sub Caraway, and I think Jorgensen will be able to keep the fight standing or even put Pickett on his back and keep him there. Jorgensen is going to win the title as well after he beats Pickett.

I've been looking for a reason to bet on Jorgensen. He's looked good in every fight that I've seen. But I really don't know much about Pickett and I'm reluctant to bet against a guy who's 19-4 and has won both of his WEC fights he's had.

Pickett is your typical brit. Mostly a brawler/striker, but his wrestling is improving. He is a bjj stylist, but he has been winning his fights with suprising takedown skill. He has won recently with repeated takedowns. He won't be taking Jorgenson down.

Jorgenson should have the advantage standing, and if not, he can put him on his back.

[sideloaded]

All you guys got VS? Im thinking about calling dishnetwork and ordering it just for this event then canceling it.

[MMA_scientist]

I have it. I have Directv... it has HDnet and VS as part of the basic package. I am about to order Showtime so I can get Strikeforce events...

[SPX]

I had it when I still had cable. Now I have to find a stream every time.

[Mr. IWS]

All you guys got VS? Im thinking about calling dishnetwork and ordering it just for this event then canceling it.

stream that shit man.

[sideloaded]

Directv has hdnet on basic? That's pretty pimp. I know dish network has it but i think its on some insane package and my satellite isnt even able to pick up.

[MMA_scientist]

^^ yeah, well its on the basic HD package. I refuse to watch standard def now. I only get like 50 channels and HDnet is one of them. The channel actually sucks except for the fights on fridays. There is a lot of whack off material on late at night...

[sideloaded]

Live Sengoku and Dream is so damn sweet on HDNET.

[MMA_scientist]

Live Sengoku and Dream is so damn sweet on HDNET.

I DVR it and watch it in the morning. It is sooo long. It is like an hour between fights. Plus it is on at like 3am

[sideloaded]

All you guys got VS? Im thinking about calling dishnetwork and ordering it just for this event then canceling it.

stream that shit man.

I would but dana kind of freaked me out saying hes going to sue stream watchers too. I really cant afford any more legal problems. ::doh:: ::doh::

[Mr. IWS]

I would but dana kind of freaked me out saying hes going to sue stream watchers too. I really cant afford any more legal problems. ::doh:: ::doh::


Luke posted a pretty good article about this shit. Really just scare tactics.

[sideloaded]

Of course but u would still have to drop the doe for a lawyer to defend.

[Mr. IWS]

Of course but u would still have to drop the doe for a lawyer to defend.

Public Defender FTW?

[zY|]

Of course but u would still have to drop the doe for a lawyer to defend.

Public Defender FTW?

Public defender = one way ticket to federal pound me in the ass prison.

[Mr. IWS]

^^^^^^^^Not true. Trust me on that one.

[poopoo333]

^^^^^^^^Not true. Trust me on that one.

Did you get into federal pound me in the mouth prison instead?

[Luke]

^^^^^^^^Not true. Trust me on that one.


trust my brother on that one too. His ass has been arrested 10+ times and he's spent like a total of 5 days in jail

[Luke]

I would but dana kind of freaked me out saying hes going to sue stream watchers too. I really cant afford any more legal problems. ::doh:: ::doh::



I already contacted a lawyer about that. He said it would cost 3k per viewer just to get their info . He said bascially the UFC might try it to scare a few people but it would cost them way to much to go after everyone.

[MMA_scientist]

Public Defenders get a bad rap. Generally, they are probably the best defense lawyers... you basically pay to get a guy that has less experience with a worse relationship with the judge and prosecutor. PD's are the way to go.

Of course, Dana would sue in civil court, so you would not be entitled to a PD.

[poopoo333]

MMAjunkie gives Castillo round 1, 10-9

[MMA_scientist]

^^ there goes my chance at the contest.

[Luke]

^^ there goes my chance at the contest.


theres two rounds to go lol

[poopoo333]

^^ there goes my chance at the contest.


theres two rounds to go lol

Naw, Castillo will win a 30-27 decision.

[Luke]

Poirier has a triangle and was just picked up and slammed by Castillo. He hangs onto the triangle though


.

[Luke]

Castillo worms his way out of the triangle


,

[poopoo333]

MMAjunkie.com believes it was enough for Poirier to take the round, 10-9.

[SPX]

Shit, this is started already?

I was thinking of dropping a real money bet on Castillo . . . and probably definitely a contest play.

[poopoo333]

Oh by the way guys, I just made a contest bet on Paxiao (Luke usually tells you guys that he does too during fight time, so I will too)

[Luke]

Oh by the way guys, I just made a contest bet on Paxiao (Luke usually tells you guys that he does too during fight time, so I will too)

thanks



Its easier to tell everyone so there's no confusion of when it was put in ::handshake::

[Luke]

Less than a minute left and Castillo gets mount

..

[Luke]

I give the third round to Castillo 10-9 and have him winning the fight 29-28. It's close

kevin iole

[Luke]

Judges have it 30-27 twice and 29-28 for Castillo

[SPX]

Damn, missed out on some money there. Castillo is a G. The way he cracked Lamas in their fight was just insane. That was one of the few times where I truly thought I saw someone's soul leave their body for a second. Lamas was literally knocked stupid.

[poopoo333]

SPX, what were your bets on this card? I know Swanson.

[SPX]

SPX, what were your bets on this card? I know Swanson.

Also 1.1u on Lamas and 2.5u on Cruz. I will be putting .5u on Pettis as well.

If I get home in time I might go ahead and take the plunge on Jorgensen and Mackens.

[Luke]

All you guys got VS? Im thinking about calling dishnetwork and ordering it just for this event then canceling it.


i thought you had to upgrade your package to get VS?

[poopoo333]

It's 10-9 Caraway on the MMAjunkie.com card.

Looked like a dominant round for Caraway...

[sideloaded]

^^^^^^^^Not true. Trust me on that one.

I know that the public defender in my county is mentally challenged.

[SPX]

It's 10-9 Caraway on the MMAjunkie.com card.

Looked like a dominant round for Caraway...

Interesting.

Sherdog gave it to Paixao. . .

[Luke]

Iole has it 2-0 Caraway

[SPX]

Prediction: Cruz wins. But if he doesn't, then he loses via some form of asphyxiation.

[poopoo333]

So Iole has it 2-0 Caraway. Sherdog has it 2-0 Paixao. MMA Junkie has it 2-0 Caraway.

[SPX]

Sherdog is usually spot on, but maybe they fucked up for once.

[Luke]

So Iole has it 2-0 Caraway. Sherdog has it 2-0 Paixao. MMA Junkie has it 2-0 Caraway.


score third round 10-9 for Paxaio and have the fight 29-28 for Caraway. I think it could go either way. 2nd was real close

Iole

[sideloaded]

sherdog is really slipping.

[poopoo333]

FUCK YEAH

Fredson Paixao def. Bryan Caraway via split decision (28-29, 29-28, 29-28).

[sideloaded]

WTF

[poopoo333]

Just made a play on Javier in the contest thread.

[Havis Jr]

Woot Woot!!!

Got lucky on that one!! the play by play made it seem like Paixo's lack of takedown's was the main problem.

[Luke]

Just made a play on Javier in the contest thread.


I also added one on Lamas ::handshake::

[poopoo333]

R1: MMA Junkie gives it to Jensen, Sherdog gives it to Lamas

[Luke]

god cant anyone freaking agree? ^^^ is it that damn hard to score a round?

[poopoo333]

god cant anyone freaking agree? ^^^ is it that damn hard to score a round?

Cecil Peoples gave it to Kim Winslow.

[poopoo333]

R2: MMAjunkie gives it to Jansen, Sherdog gives it to Lamas

[Luke]

R2: MMAjunkie gives it to Jansen, Sherdog gives it to Lamas


so one has it 2-0 Lamas and one has it 2-0 Jansen?

this is the second fight in a row

[sideloaded]

u r serious? wec is really a frekin crap shot.

[Luke]

We sometimes disagree on a round here but nothing even close to this

[poopoo333]

Ricardo Lamas def. Dave Jansen via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28).


Junkie gave it to Jansen, 29-28.
Sherdog gave it to Lamas, 30-27

[Havis Jr]

Sherdog consistently gives it to the guy who does the least wrestling.

[Luke]

its official junkie is clueless when it comes to scoring

[zY|]

Junkie is notoriously bad at scoring.

[poopoo333]

MMAjunkie.com sees the round clearly for Vazquez, 10-9. Semerzier had nothing and could have given up a 10-8, but there didn't seem to be enough damage to justify that score.

[zY|]

MMAjunkie.com sees the round clearly for Vazquez, 10-9. Semerzier had nothing and could have given up a 10-8, but there didn't seem to be enough damage to justify that score.

That's exactly what Iole said.

[Luke]

Vazquez forces Semerzier to tap to a rear naked choke in the second round

Time of the submission was 1:35 of the second

[edman5555]

Anyone else think Cruz is going to kick his ass? He basically did the first fight and he is much larger.

[zY|]

Javi is a badass.

[poopoo333]

Vazquez forces Semerzier to tap to a rear naked choke in the second round

Time of the submission was 1:35 of the second

Sweet, I won a dollar in the contest. :)

[zY|]

Anyone else think Cruz is going to kick his ass? He basically did the first fight and he is much larger.

I think so. I mean Benavidez is just a wee little guy. Hobbit sized, really. Probably has hairy feet.

[Luke]

Anyone else think Cruz is going to kick his ass? He basically did the first fight and he is much larger.


I expect Cruz to win and he probably will but at +200 I'd take Benavidez .

[SPX]

Go Lamas.

[Havis Jr]

Put a 1u play on benevidas/cruz goes the distance.

[SPX]

What the fuck happened to the Jorgensen line? I guess it's just not coming back down.

[poopoo333]

We have to watch high5 in the contest. He is creeping up.

Edit: And Njokuani just got raped. ZY is back up there.

[SPX]

Holy fucking shit!!!!!

The biggest underdog is the first to hit tonight. . .

[Luke]

you better watch Zy .He just pulled a Werdum on your asses

[SPX]

Real money leap of faith on Jorgensen. . .

Should I do it?

[poopoo333]

Real money leap of faith on Jorgensen. . .

Should I do it?

Not at the current line, but that's just me.

[Luke]

anyone found a link for this yet?

[SPX]

Why in the fuck did his line get stupid? He was hanging around at -215 for a long time. . .

[High5]

[quote="poopoo333"]We have to watch high5 in the contest. He is creeping up.

Only if Cub Swanson wins....

[poopoo333]

We have to watch high5 in the contest. He is creeping up.

Only if Cub Swanson wins....

I have a real bet on Cub Swanson, so it's 100% Swanson will win.

[edman5555]

I just put 20 bucks on benav by submission at +1000. What you you guys think? He submitted M torres and he caught Cruz quite a few times. If Cruz loses this is most likely the way.

[poopoo333]

0.5u on Palaszewski @-165

lulz

[poopoo333]

I just put 20 bucks on benav by submission at +1000. What you you guys think? He submitted M torres and he caught Cruz quite a few times. If Cruz loses this is most likely the way.

I think if he wins, it will be by guillotine.

[SPX]

I just put 20 bucks on benav by submission at +1000. What you you guys think? He submitted M torres and he caught Cruz quite a few times. If Cruz loses this is most likely the way.

I said earlier that if Cruz loses it will be via asphyxiation. So yeah, I think that's a good bet.

[poopoo333]

Fuck it, 0.5u on Benavidez by sub @+1000. So I have 1u on Benavidez now..0.5u @+215, 0.5u@+1000

[Luke]

I just put 20 bucks on benav by submission at +1000. What you you guys think? He submitted M torres and he caught Cruz quite a few times. If Cruz loses this is most likely the way.


I agree

[High5]

I just put 20 bucks on benav by submission at +1000. What you you guys think? He submitted M torres and he caught Cruz quite a few times. If Cruz loses this is most likely the way.

I like it! where is that prop at? I'll take a piece of that.

[edman5555]

I upped it to 36 bucks on Ben by Sub. He subbed fuckin M torres. The first fight was only 3 rounds and he had a few close subs on Cruz. This is another 10 minutes. Cruz was slightly more experienced at the time as well...but not by much.

[edman5555]

I just put 20 bucks on benav by submission at +1000. What you you guys think? He submitted M torres and he caught Cruz quite a few times. If Cruz loses this is most likely the way.

I like it! where is that prop at? I'll take a piece of that.



5dimes.

[SPX]

Too bad Faber and Miz didn't make it on this card.

Even if Faber was getting pulled I still would've liked to have seen Miz fight somebody.

[Luke]

I just put 20 bucks on benav by submission at +1000. What you you guys think? He submitted M torres and he caught Cruz quite a few times. If Cruz loses this is most likely the way.

I like it! where is that prop at? I'll take a piece of that.


5dimes ::handshake::

[SPX]

I upped it to 36 bucks on Ben by Sub. He subbed fuckin M torres. The first fight was only 3 rounds and he had a few close subs on Cruz. This is another 10 minutes. Cruz was slightly more experienced at the time as well...but not by much.

Torres looked like shit all around in that fight.

[edman5555]

just took JB wins r4 and r5 at +4000 and +4800. These Bookies are crazy. This could totally happen.

Now at 56 bucks on cruz via sub at +1000 and above.

[edman5555]

I upped it to 36 bucks on Ben by Sub. He subbed fuckin M torres. The first fight was only 3 rounds and he had a few close subs on Cruz. This is another 10 minutes. Cruz was slightly more experienced at the time as well...but not by much.

Torres looked like shit all around in that fight.


I never saw it, but its still Torres. 22 wins via sub and BB in BJJ.

[zY|]

WAR Jewtowsky or whatever the fuck your name is!!

[SPX]

I never saw it, but its still Torres. 22 wins via sub and BB in BJJ.

Bowles did something to that boy when he knocked him out.

[sideloaded]

StreamS?

[SPX]

MMA-TV on Sopcast is working. I'm actually not sure how to tell you to get there, though.

[Luke]

StreamS?


^^^^since SPX is a tard

sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/24267


::handshake::

[poopoo333]

Is Micklewright going to win? Lots of money came in on him.

[Luke]

Is Micklewright going to win? Lots of money came in on him.


I have no idea .I dont even know who he is lol

[sideloaded]

sopcast is p2p i think tahts dangrous because thats like joining in on a torrent. Your helping serve the stream. Dana could get you for streaming.

[SPX]

sopcast is p2p i think tahts dangrous because thats like joining in on a torrent. Your helping serve the stream. Dana could get you for streaming.

So you just gonna keep reading the PBP?

[sideloaded]

i called dishnetwrk and coped that VS channel.

[Luke]

So you just gonna keep reading the PBP?


::lmao::

[poopoo333]

sopcast is p2p i think tahts dangrous because thats like joining in on a torrent. Your helping serve the stream. Dana could get you for streaming.

I think you need veetle for this.

http://www.firstrow.net/watch/24186/2/w ... videz.html (http://www.firstrow.net/watch/24186/2/watch-wec-50:-cruz-vs-benavidez.html)



Lucky me, I have VS on comcast.

[Luke]

sopcast is p2p i think tahts dangrous because thats like joining in on a torrent. Your helping serve the stream. Dana could get you for streaming.


LOL


Dana's watching ::eyes::

[Luke]

only thing pinging me is Bodog entertainment

[SPX]

So is Buffer officially doing WEC events now? I figured he was just called in for the PPV.

[SPX]

Is Micklewright going to win? Lots of money came in on him.

Everyone probably saw the Jew boy win and wanted to grab the next big dog.

[poopoo333]

10-9 stupid hair

[Luke]

10-9 Bart Simpson

[poopoo333]

Wow, nice KO

[Havis Jr]

Thanks for the pick poopoo. ::moneybag::

[Luke]

wow holy crap

[poopoo333]

Thanks for the pick poopoo. ::moneybag::

You followed my bet on stupid hair guy?

[sideloaded]

+8.2384u

[poopoo333]

+8.2384u


wut?

[Havis Jr]

Thanks for the pick poopoo. ::moneybag::

You followed my bet on stupid hair guy?
Yea man seemed like a good play at the price.

[zY|]

Is sopcast really p2p?

[SPX]

Jesus. I know I'm just gonna regret not betting on Jorgensen.

[poopoo333]

Jesus. I know I'm just gonna regret not betting on Jorgensen.

Don't listen to my advice on his line. He is probably gonna win.

[poopoo333]

Actually, don't bet now because of my post. If he loses I will feel like a sack of shit.

[zY|]

Jesus. I know I'm just gonna regret not betting on Jorgensen.

Yeah, I think he's going to terrorize this Brit.

[sideloaded]

soapcast is definantly p2p i checked it with my firewall its running a server.

[Luke]

Is sopcast really p2p?


I'm pretty sure it is

[Luke]

boxing would never allow a female ref ::handshake::

[Havis Jr]

What are your guys thoughts on Bonnars commentating?

[SPX]

LOL at sideloaded.

[zY|]

boxing would never allow a female ref ::handshake::

Who cares? It's funny how she towers over both of them, like she's the chick from Avatar.

And Bonnar is pretty awful at commentating. He was going on and on about how supposedly deep that guillotine was and didn't even realize that Jorgenson had passed his guard.

[poopoo333]

Does Pickett look like he is getting tired to you guys?

[SPX]

What are your guys thoughts on Bonnars commentating?

He's doing a good job. It's actually nice to have someone other than Mir for a change.

[Havis Jr]

Does Pickett look like he is getting tired to you guys?

They were going pretty hard that round.

[SPX]

Does Pickett look like he is getting tired to you guys?

A bit.

[Havis Jr]

What are your guys thoughts on Bonnars commentating?

He's doing a good job. It's actually nice to have someone other than Mir for a change.

LOL mir was the worst when he was commentating on torres.

[SPX]

LOL mir was the worst when he was commentating on torres.

Or Urijah.

But hey, that was actually comedy relief so sometimes I didn't mind.

[poopoo333]

MMAjunkie gives R1 to Pickett. All 3 on Sherdog give it to Jorgensen.

[SPX]

Okay, my stream just switched to baseball.

This motherfucker better plan on putting that shit back.

[SPX]

MMAjunkie gives R1 to Pickett. All 3 on Sherdog give it to Jorgensen.

We know how that works. . .

[zY|]

MMAjunkie gives R1 to Pickett. All 3 on Sherdog give it to Jorgensen.

We know how that works. . .

That means the official judges probably agreed with Junkie.

[sideloaded]

scott steals that round.