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poopoo333
08-24-2010, 01:26 PM
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MMA_scientist
08-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Cummings is the play I am leaning toward.
he has already beaten Bears once. Bears still sucks at grappling. Cummings is a wrestler (though just a solid H.S. wrestler that kept working on it). Still Bears gets taken down a lot and Cummings striking is not totally horrible either. The only hesitation I have is that in Bears most recent fight in Bellator, his footwork looks like it has improved dramatically. But then again, Green wasnt trying to take him down either... Leaning toward Cummings, and his line keeps inching up.
Rory Markham not cleared, Tyler Stinson steps in at Bellator 26
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Havis Jr
08-24-2010, 03:02 PM
Ward is #4 ranked 115 wrestler/grappler vs Daly #5 ranked 125 lb striker from europe. My instinct is to always say the european has never had to face an american wrestler, and she will be in uncomfortable territory, not to mention striking in women's mma is never devestating esp at 115 so I don't see many outs for Daly. I like ward as the dog.
Hayes was preparing for a south korean wrestler, hayes is a sprawl and brawl guy. Now he is facing some judo guy with great submissions. I still think hayes can keep it standing I have seen Oleinik's takedowns they are terrible, a lot of time he has to pull guard to get the fight to the ground. Not happening against Hayes. Hayes will keep it standing, and get the ud or tko/ko.
Vega v tims is a rubber match . Tims won the first fight on a ud. 2nd match vega subed him. Vega is a way more well rounded fighter who has high school wrestling experience, and multiple ways to win. Tims also started fighting right out of highschool wrestling he will be going for takedowns non stop and probably gets caught at some point.
Thoughts?
MMA_scientist
08-24-2010, 04:14 PM
Havis,
I looked at the Vega/Tims match earlier. I was leaning Vega, but not strongly. I think they are pretty well matched. The only thing that is concerning is that Tims basically cardio tapped in the 2nd fight. The rematch was the 2nd fight of the night for both guys. I just think it is too close to call accurately.
I did not know about Hayes/Oleinik. I will have to look at that one.
Havis Jr
08-24-2010, 06:41 PM
Havis,
I looked at the Vega/Tims match earlier. I was leaning Vega, but not strongly. I think they are pretty well matched. The only thing that is concerning is that Tims basically cardio tapped in the 2nd fight. The rematch was the 2nd fight of the night for both guys. I just think it is too close to call accurately.
I did not know about Hayes/Oleinik. I will have to look at that one.
I agree neither of their first two fights are very telling. First fight they were amateurs and the other being a two fight one night situation.
Let me know what you think about Hayes/Oleinik.
MMA_scientist
08-24-2010, 10:21 PM
^^ looked at Hayes/Oleinik.
I don't know... I am not seeing what you are seeing. I agree Hayes is way more athletic and explosive. That should help him with the takedown defense and striking. But Alexy is tough as hell and he is a lot more crafty (I think he is actually a more skilled fighter). I get why you think Hayes will win, but I just can't see how the fight is going to play out.
I liek to have an idea of how the fight is going to look. I am usually wrong, but I still like to have a clear vision of what is going to go down. If I had to guess, I think Hayes will win round one, and Alexey will gain steam as some of the snap comes off of Hayes... I don't really have an idea of who will win. I guess I would favor Alexey slightly.
Havis Jr
08-25-2010, 09:54 AM
^^ looked at Hayes/Oleinik.
I don't know... I am not seeing what you are seeing. I agree Hayes is way more athletic and explosive. That should help him with the takedown defense and striking. But Alexy is tough as hell and he is a lot more crafty (I think he is actually a more skilled fighter). I get why you think Hayes will win, but I just can't see how the fight is going to play out.
I liek to have an idea of how the fight is going to look. I am usually wrong, but I still like to have a clear vision of what is going to go down. If I had to guess, I think Hayes will win round one, and Alexey will gain steam as some of the snap comes off of Hayes... I don't really have an idea of who will win. I guess I would favor Alexey slightly.
I just haven't seen Alexey get a good takedown. Everytime I saw one from him it's like his opponent didn't know how to sprawl. I guess I'm banking on Alexy not getting the takedown, becuase he is better on the ground, and it could be over quick if it goes there. Thanks for checking the fights out.
So what's the deal here? Who's got what on this shit tonight and why?
This might be the first card where I've literally never heard of anyone.
LOL
I've heard of the girls, but don't really know anything about them. Never heard of anyone else.
EDIT: Oh, Zak Cummings. I remember seeing him fight Tim Kennedy.
Where the fuck is everyone? This shit starts in 7 minutes and we haven't even made it to the second page.
Goddamn, where my hoes at?
My Nigga
You watching or is it gay football for you again?
My Nigga
You watching or is it gay football for you again?
Watching both .NFL is on the TV,Bellator is on the laptop
Word.
Are you watching the channelsurfing stream?
Word.
Are you watching the channelsurfing stream?
yeah
Damn.
I thought that was it right there.
Well shit.
That was a straight up Harley Davidson shifting gears moment right there.
Damn.
I thought that was it right there.
then the other guy gets choked out ::lmao::
Aisling Daly +105 .5 to win .52
LOL @ Acorn Stairlift commercials
Aisling Daly +105 .5 to win .52
Just cuz?
Aisling Daly +105 .5 to win .52
Just cuz?
nah I looked at it for around 2 hours last night
nah I looked at it for around 2 hours last night
Word. Hey, I'll play. I didn't research it, but let's go head to head. Low stakes so no one gets mad.
.53u to win .5u on Ward
nah I looked at it for around 2 hours last night
Word. Hey, I'll play. I didn't research it, but let's go head to head. Low stakes so no one gets mad.
.53u to win .5u on Ward
Ward is the better grappler but only slighly imo. Daly should have the strength ,size and BJJ adv. If she can use her size and strength and stop Ward from taking her down she should be fine . Even off her back she might be fine
Ward is the better grappler but only slighly imo. Daly should have the strength ,size and BJJ adv. If she can use her size and strength and stop Ward from taking her down she should be fine . Even off her back she might be fine
Okay, I guess I did to a tiny bit of research. I did notice that, according to Wiki, both fighters have "wrestling" listed as one of their styles on Wiki and Daly was listed at a higher weight.
You know more than me about this one, though.
Okay, I guess I did to a tiny bit of research. I did notice that, according to Wiki, both fighters have "wrestling" listed as one of their styles on Wiki and Daly was listed at a higher weight.
You know more than me about this one, though.
That doesnt mean I have anymore of a chance .I might have looked at the videos wrong lol
"Come out fighting when I tell you to. God bless you."
Missouri
so much for using the strength adv....
LOL at these niggas whistling and shit.
Daly IS making her sniff her pussy, though.
Sigh ....
back to football.
Sorry, bro.
I know firsthand it sucks to do a lot of research on the fight and see it go differently than you expected.
I like Daly's big ass and thick thighs.
Sorry, bro.
I know firsthand it sucks to do a lot of research on the fight and see it go differently than you expected.
I was bored last night so I looked at it . Didnt expected Ward would be able to throw her so easily. You'd think by round 3 she would have seen it coming
::thumbdown::
I like Daly's big ass and thick thighs.
I like your moms
I was bored last night so I looked at it . Didnt expected Ward would be able to throw her so easily. You'd think by round 3 she would have seen it coming
::thumbdown::
Funny thing is Ward started off around +125 I think. Wish I had known a little more about these two when the line opened.
I like your moms
Come on, man.
Contemplating putting a bet on Cummings. Don't know shit about Bears, though.
Funny thing is Ward started off around +125 I think. Wish I had known a little more about these two when the line opened.
I knew Ward was the better grappler but I thought Daly could deal with it .
::lolzorz:: Wrong lol
No big deal
Contemplating putting a bet on Cummings. Don't know shit about Bears, though.
Bears?
The Bears arent playing .The Colts and Packers are
Bears?
The Bears arent playing .The Colts and Packers are
Oh, my bad.
Damn, that was a hell of a round.
10-10?
Good fight. Vega should win.
Did not expect Vega to sound anything like that. . .
::lmao::
X talking to himself . Now you know how I feel in boxings threads
::lmao::
X talking to himself . Now you know how I feel in boxings threads
Damn, if you were gonna leave then you could've told me so.
And hey, I've been asking for some boxing stuff. Come one. Give me some credit.
MMA_scientist
08-26-2010, 09:40 PM
Bears is a striker mostly, Cummings is a wrestler. Cummings already beat Bears once, and fairly handily.
Chase on Cummings, it will work out.
And hey, I've been asking for some boxing stuff. Come one. Give me some credit.
I did tell you I was leaving.Remember this?
Sigh ....
back to football.
Sigh ....
back to football.
Back to football where? How? With your attention? With your bets?
How am I supposed to know what you were talking about?
Sigh ....
back to football.
Back to football where? How? With your attention? With your bets?
How am I supposed to know what you were talking about?
Ok for the mentally challenged, I meant I was going back to watching football
Ok for the mentally challenged, I meant I was going back to watching football
You missed a good fight, then.
Bears is a striker mostly, Cummings is a wrestler. Cummings already beat Bears once, and fairly handily.
Chase on Cummings, it will work out.
Not chasing, but considering dropping 3u on him. Or at least 1u. Just cuz.
Sup bitches.
Where the fuck you been?
It's like an echo chamber in here.
Sup bitches.
X needed you a little while ago he was talking to himself
X needed you a little while ago he was talking to himself
Whose fault was that?
Sup bitches.
Where the fuck you been?
It's like an echo chamber in here.
::lmao:: I was here I just wanted to see how long before you freaked out
LOL, our streamer is a pro-wrestling fan.
::lmao:: I was here I just wanted to see how long before you freaked out
You're a dickface.
LOL, our streamer is a pro-wrestling fan.
i just turned it back on to see that shit .
MMA fans would be WWE and Jersey Shore fans
::lmao:: I was here I just wanted to see how long before you freaked out
You're a dickface.
::thumbup::
Anyone have another stream?
Anyone have another stream?
Isn't it over?
I dunno. I'm watching TNA now.
Anyone have another stream?
Isn't it over?
I dunno. I'm watching TNA now.
LOL I didnt realize it was over I just thought the stream changed .
Wow I'm an idiot ::lmao::
poopoo333
08-26-2010, 10:09 PM
Next week Ulysses Gomez is going to kick some ass.
So who won each fight?
Oh, wait. . .
What the fuck happened to the Cummings fight? It's not mentioned on the Sherdog PBP either.
What the fuck happened to the Cummings fight? It's not mentioned on the Sherdog PBP either.
Well thats the main fight I was asking about .I seen you posted the rest of the results
Maybe it wasnt over.....
Well thats the main fight I was asking about .I seen you posted the rest of the results
Maybe it wasnt over.....
Sherdog completed their PBP saying "that's all, folks."
The HW fight was the last one on the broadcast.
and the plot thickens. Where is Cummings and what happened to his fight......
poopoo333
08-26-2010, 10:31 PM
It's not going to be broadcasted. This happens all the time. The same thing happened with Shonie Carter's fight last week.
It's not going to be broadcasted. This happens all the time. The same thing happened with Shonie Carter's fight last week.
who won ?
poopoo333
08-26-2010, 10:36 PM
It's not going to be broadcasted. This happens all the time. The same thing happened with Shonie Carter's fight last week.
who won ?
It hasn't happened yet.
It hasn't happened yet.
::lmao:: How do you know that?
::lmao:: How do you know that?
I think they do a sort of anti-undercard thing. Like, if there's a really short fight, instead of broadcasting an undercard fight, they do a swing fight that otherwise might not make it on the broadcast.
So the broadcast's "main event" isn't really.
poopoo333
08-26-2010, 10:40 PM
It hasn't happened yet.
::lmao:: How do you know that?
I keep refreshing Wikipedia like I did last week waiting for Shonie's results :)
MMA_scientist
08-26-2010, 10:43 PM
Ending the night with a quick submission victory, Zak Cummings defeats Rudy Bears. http://bit.ly/9rljPF
Aug 27, 1:08 AM
bellator twitter
Son of a bitch. Should've made that bet.
Ending the night with a quick submission victory, Zak Cummings defeats Rudy Bears. http://bit.ly/9rljPF
Aug 27, 1:08 AM
bellator twitter
Well that solves the mystery
Havis Jr
08-27-2010, 01:29 PM
Ward is #4 ranked 115 wrestler/grappler vs Daly #5 ranked 125 lb striker from europe. My instinct is to always say the european has never had to face an american wrestler, and she will be in uncomfortable territory, not to mention striking in women's mma is never devestating esp at 115 so I don't see many outs for Daly. I like ward as the dog.
Hayes was preparing for a south korean wrestler, hayes is a sprawl and brawl guy. Now he is facing some judo guy with great submissions. I still think hayes can keep it standing I have seen Oleinik's takedowns they are terrible, a lot of time he has to pull guard to get the fight to the ground. Not happening against Hayes. Hayes will keep it standing, and get the ud or tko/ko.
Vega v tims is a rubber match . Tims won the first fight on a ud. 2nd match vega subed him. Vega is a way more well rounded fighter who has high school wrestling experience, and multiple ways to win. Tims also started fighting right out of highschool wrestling he will be going for takedowns non stop and probably gets caught at some point.
Thoughts?
2-1 on my picks. almost 3-0 but judges blew it on the hayes fight. Ohh well.
^^^ You were on point with the Ward fight. So. . .
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