WEC 51

[MMA_scientist]

Time to quit pouting about 119 /Shark Fights and starrt whupping some ass again.

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/306.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

Jose Aldo (No. 1 FW, No. 3 PFP) vs. Manny Gamburyan (No. 2 FW)

Jamie Varner vs. Donald Cerrone
Miguel Torres (No. 5 BW) vs. Charlie Valencia
Leonard Garcia vs. Mark Hominick
Mike Thomas Brown (No. 3 FW) vs. Cole Province
Chris Horodecki vs. Ed Ratcliff
Chan Sung Jung vs. George Roop
Diego Nunes (No. 10 FW) vs. Tyler Toner
Antonio Banuelos vs. Chad George
Tie Quan Zhang vs. Pablo Garza
Nick Pace vs. Demetrious Johnson

Hominick could get a good line and has a style to give Garcia's brawling some problems. Valencia is a really strong wrestler who has only lost to really good guys. He will rightly be a big dog, but I think he has a chance. Nunes/Toner is intersting too.

gimme some ideas

[poopoo333]

I was thinking Hominick as well. I also think Banuelos will beat George.

[MMA_scientist]

Banuelos has had trouble with other wrestlers. He has good power in his hands though... I think that fight comes down to striking.

[SPX]

I think Torres is going to whip Valencia's ass.

I also think KZ will beat Roop.

[edman5555]

I agree with KZ. I have always thought Roop sucks.

[MMA_scientist]

KZ should win easy, and I think it will be reflected in his line.

I think Valencia could surprise Torres. Torres is going to be working off his back, and although he has shown a really good submission game, I think Valencia might be worth a bet if he is a big dog.

[SPX]

KZ should win easy, and I think it will be reflected in his line.

What do you think the line will be? I was thinking KZ at -170 or so, at least to kick things off.


I think Valencia could surprise Torres. Torres is going to be working off his back, and although he has shown a really good submission game, I think Valencia might be worth a bet if he is a big dog.

For me, he'd have to be a BIG dog. I've never been a big Torres fan and have always thought he was a little overrated--which he was--but he was still a seeming unstoppable force for forever and I don't think Valencia will be able to beat him. Maybe I'll change my tune after I re-watch some fights.

[Havis Jr]

I like cole's chances as a dog. Varner should win also.

[poopoo333]

Varner/Cerrone....discuss?

[Havis Jr]

I didn't think the fight was really that close the first time. Cerrone has good kicks, but his hands aren't as good as varner's and if cerrone goes for kicks he is going to end up on his back for most of the fight.

[MMA_scientist]

I like Varner also. I think he has a more clear path to victory and more ways to win.

SPX, I forgot that Roop fought Garcia to a draw. I think you are probably about right. Without that fight, I would have said liek -250 or so...

[Luke]

Lines have been added

[SPX]

Goddamn it!

KZ a lot higher than I was hoping for. Torres, too.

[SPX]

What are the odds on Roop-via-KO? Probably astronomical.

[MMA_scientist]

underdogs ftw? wtf is up with these lines? Roop has value. Didn't he just fight a close fight with Garcia? My MMATH tells me that KZ just also fought a close fight with Garcia, therefore Roop should not be a 3:1 dog.

I thought Hominick would be close to even, maybe even open as a dog. Going to have to disagree with that Torres line as well- he will probably win, but that line has him in absolute lock territory. Mike Brown just got knocked out by Manvil- unranked and unheralded prior to the fight, wtf is he doing @ -450 against a legit opponent?

[SPX]

^^^ Agreed. The problem with betting on the dogs for this one, I think, is that they just won't win. But yes, the line's should be a lot better and even though I have confidence in a lot of the faves here, I don't have THAT much confidence.

[MMA_scientist]

Yup. That's why I don't really like the big dogs too much. I actually like to win my bets. I still might thrown something down though. I am going to look at the lesser knowns and see if I can find any good style matchups.

Strikeforce has some good plays I think, depending on the line. I am really excited to see Woodley/Galvao.

[zY|]

Is Mike Brown seriously on the undercard?

[SPX]

I see we have a Chinese fella on this card.

That's highly irregular.

[zY|]

I see we have a Chinese fella on this card.

That's highly irregular.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Da ... lves-27173 (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Dances-with-Wolves-27173)

[SPX]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Da ... lves-27173 (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Dances-with-Wolves-27173)

Interesting. It's about time Chinese fighters started showing up in MMA. I hope he does well.

[Thewiseman]

Roop .5u @+325
Brown 3.55u to win 1u
Parlay .5u to win 1.5u
Aldo
Brown
Varner
Torres
Banuelos

[SPX]

Is Varner going to break his hand again this time?

[poopoo333]

Is Varner going to break his hand again this time?

Not sure, I'll ask him.

[zY|]

Is Varner going to break his hand again this time?

It's certainly something to consider. Varner does seem to be Mr. Glass, after all.

[poopoo333]

Is Varner going to break his hand again this time?

Not sure, I'll ask him.

He said no.


I have been lazy, I haven't even looked at this card yet.

[MMA_scientist]

I am leaning toward Hominick, Manvil, and Roop.

[edman5555]

Manvil? You think he can beat Aldo?

[Mr. IWS]

I actually think he can. I swear, the WEC always has big upsets it seems. Also, This shit is in Colorado, and it could really effect Aldo's cardio.

[Thewiseman]

Varner 1.45u to win 1u I hate doing this. Either way I will be happy.

[MMA_scientist]

Manvil? You think he can beat Aldo?

Well, I wouldn't expect it. I certainly wouldn't favor him, but I think he has a chance. He has style that is hard to deal with... @ +400 or wherever he is now, I think he has some value. I don't put any top 10 guy at 4:1 over another top 10 guy.

[zY|]

I actually think he can. I swear, the WEC always has big upsets it seems. Also, This shit is in Colorado, and it could really effect Aldo's cardio.

I doubt it affects him any more than Manny. Broomfield isn't that high really. It's only a few thousand feet higher than Vegas.

[edman5555]

I spent a bit of time reading about Roop/ KZ today. I'm not sure about this one. KZ seems like a brawler, all the guys he submitted had horrible records not involving more than 3-4 fights. Some 1 or 2 fights.

Roop landed takedowns on Leonard Garcia to win the fight. I see that being his path to victory against the KZ. The only problem is I have no idea what his takedown D is like..I'm assuming that since he is coming from Asia that he might not be accustomed to fighting not to get taken down.

Thoughts?

[SPX]

I agree that the value in this fight right now is on Roop. I watched Garcia/Roop last night. Roop won that fight and the point deduction was bullshit.

Roop would've been sweet to get at +325. He may very well win here. With that said, I'm still hesitant to bet on him. Like you say, KZ's ground game is a question mark. I remember he did some cool roll shit on Garcia. Plus Roop was constantly getting stuck in guillotines in the Garcia fight so if KZ has a good guillotine it might spell doom for Roop.

Finally, on the feet, Garcia was getting beat up by KZ, and Garcia fought pretty equally on the feet with Roop and landed several good shots.

I think that ultimate this fight will come down to takedowns and grappling. If Roop can get KZ down and maintain top control to lay down some GnP he may walk away with the decision. But if Roop's takedown plan backfires and he either gets subbed or reversed, or if it stays on the feet and KZ can live up to his name and just come forward and land strikes, then I think he wins.

In any case, the line is stupid.

[MMA_scientist]

its worth a bet just for value... .5u on Roop @ +225. I think the fight is basically a coin flip, maybe 55% KZ.

I like Hominick to win, but he has lost the value (he opened @ +140 and is -220 now).

[SPX]

Jesus Christ, 5u? You're hoping for a lottery win. . .

[Luke]

Jesus Christ, 5u? You're hoping for a lottery win. . .


::swifty::

[Mr. IWS]

^^^^^^^^LOL

.5 = 1/2 broski

[SPX]

^^^^^^^^LOL

.5 = 1/2 broski

Oh. That ellipsis fucked me up.

[MMA_scientist]

1.5u on Varner @ -150.

In a 3 rounder, I got the lispy one. In the first fight, he clearly won the first 2 rounds (he also won round 3)... I think the shorter fight is going to play in Varner's favor.

done. Varner and Roop.

[SPX]

What's everyone's thoughts on Ratcliff/Horodecki?

[poopoo333]

What's everyone's thoughts on Ratcliff/Horodecki?

I WAS saying Horodecki, but I realized Ratcliff is not Anthony Morrison. My bad for getting the black dudes mixed up.

[SPX]

Why is Mark Hominick's line so shitty?

[zY|]

Why is Mark Hominick's line so shitty?

Because Leonard Garcia is awful and has lost 5 fights in a row.

[SPX]

Because Leonard Garcia is awful and has lost 5 fights in a row.

You got that cash down on Hominick then?

[zY|]

Because Leonard Garcia is awful and has lost 5 fights in a row.

You got that cash down on Hominick then?

Hell no. Taking a favorite against Garcia is just asking to get burned by the judges. Hominick will probably win all three rounds then lose the fight.

[Mr. IWS]

Hominick will probably win all three rounds then lose the fight.

I lol'd

[Mr. IWS]

I was thinking about parlaying Torres and Brown, but Im gonna sit out tonight.

GL boys and girls.

[SPX]

BTW zY, regarding your Garcia being 0-5 statement, I think he beat Jameel Massouh.

[SPX]

Undercard is underway. . .

[SPX]

There's all this fucking MMA tonight and I can't really find shit to bet on. . .

[Luke]

There's all this fucking MMA tonight and I can't really find shit to bet on. . .


That sounds like degenerate talk

[poopoo333]

I have called every fight so far. Good thing I was a pussy tonight since I lost so much over the weekend. I am gonna bet varner when I get home from work

[SPX]

Well looks like Brown was good for it.

[SPX]

Thinking of taking Hominick at -230. . .

I really think he's going to beat Garcia.

[zY|]

Oh he's going to whip Garcia's ass. That doesn't mean he won't lose.

[SPX]

Oh he's going to whip Garcia's ass. That doesn't mean he won't lose.

I almost did a Hominick-Horodecki parlay. I mean, I was REAL close, like about to push the confirm button. Didn't do it, though.

[SPX]

Let's go Chinaman!

[SPX]

You know what, fuck it. I believe in my research . . . sort of.

2.5u to win 1.09u on Hominick

[SPX]

WAR CHINAMAN!!!!!

Tiequan Zhang def. Pablo Garza via submission (guillotine choke) - Round 1, 2:26.

[zY|]

lol chinaman

[poopoo333]

Called all the prelims right. I did a $1 parlay to win $400 on all the fights on the card. All the prelims are winners, now I just need Garcia, Roop, Torres, and Cerrone.

[poopoo333]

Get this fucking football off my screen. WTF versus

[Luke]

Get this fucking football off my screen. WTF versus


Lol @ versus and the football they show.

[SPX]

I like Bonnar's commentating. He's better than Mir.

[Luke]

I like Bonnar's commentating. He's better than Mir.


Its the only reason I'm watching it

[SPX]

Its the only reason I'm watching it

You don't think WEC's fights are bad ass?

[SPX]

War Hominick

[poopoo333]

War GARCIA

[SPX]

War Your Mom

[Luke]

Its the only reason I'm watching it

You don't think WEC's fights are bad ass?


No I could careless about the WEC . I only turned it on to listen to Bonnars voice

[SPX]

No I could careless about the WEC . I only turned it on to listen to Bonnars voice

Dude, get the fuck out.

[poopoo333]

Garcia sucks so bad lmao

[Svino]

Garcia sucks so bad lmao
Yeah, he's going to be down 2 rounds, and he's gassing faster.

[Luke]

Yeah, he's going to be down 2 rounds, and he's gassing faster.


With MMA judges I wouldnt be so sure . Hell one of them might have him up 2-0

[Luke]

Split decision for Garcia lol?

[SPX]

Shall I have a penis put in my ass?

We shall see. . .

[SPX]

Sherdog and Junkie both obviously give it to Hominick.

[Luke]

Sherdog and Junkie both obviously give it to Hominick.


stop spazzing you're fine

[poopoo333]

Split decision? LOL

Well there goes by $1 for $400 parlay, FUCK.

[Luke]

LOL a split decision . MMA judging is the worst

[SPX]

SD? GodDAMN I got nervous there for a minute!

[Svino]

Damn, I thought that was an easy 30-27, and I bet on Garcia.

[SPX]

LOL a split decision . MMA judging is the worst

Fucked up score obviously, but didn't you used to say that boxing judges were the worst for robbing guys?

[SPX]

Damn, I thought that was an easy 30-27, and I bet on Garcia.

I thought it was at least a clear 29-28. The first round was close.

[poopoo333]

1.4u to win 1u on Varner
1u to win 1.57u on Varner via decision

[SPX]

WAR THE PEOPLE WHO GOT HOMINICK AT +140!

[Luke]

Fucked up score obviously, but didn't you used to say that boxing judges were the worst for robbing guys?


Until MMA came around .

In boxing when someone gets "robbed" its usually 115-113 or 116-112 the wrong way .In a fight thats 7-5 or 8-4 in rounds scored.

I've never seen one judge score a fight 120-108 (12-0 ) and another judge 120-108 the other way . I just saw that happen in a 3 round fight in Bellator. The jugdes were 6 rounds apart in the 3 round fight .

I thought home bias boxing judges were bad until MMA came around ,now I realize boxing judges are good

[SPX]

^^^ You made the comment in regard to MMA, saying MMA judges sometimes make bad calls but it's not as bad as boxing.

Unless that was Zak. . .

[Svino]

The first two rounds in that Bellator fight were kind of close. But I think calling the third round for Frausto might be the worst MMA judging call I've ever seen.

[SPX]

C'mon Zombie!

[Luke]

^^^ You made the comment in regard to MMA, saying MMA judges sometimes make bad calls but it's not as bad as boxing.

Unless that was Zak. . .


Must have been Zak.

I defended MMA judges vs boxing judges until the last 6 months ,since then MMA judging has been really bad at times

[Svino]

That round was pretty close.

[Luke]

. But I think calling the third round for Frausto might be the worst MMA judging call I've ever seen.


I agree 29-28 either way would have been ok.But 30-27 ??? Yikes

[Luke]

Judge who gave Garcia the Hominick fight...Joe Garcia.



figures

[zY|]

Holy shit!!!

[Svino]

Woah.

[SPX]

I defended MMA judges vs boxing judges until the last 6 months ,since then MMA judging has been really bad at times

Well it as a while back . . . but an elephant never forgets.

[poopoo333]

Holy shit.

[SPX]

Fuck!

GodDAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SPX]

KZ better get another fight in the WEC.

[poopoo333]

I was about to bet on KZ as well, glad I didn't. Although I did think the line was ridiculous.

[poopoo333]

KZ better get another fight in the WEC.

Rematch with Garcia

[SPX]

I had a feeling Roop was going to win. Being that tall with that kind of reach at 145 is just insane.

[poopoo333]

I had a feeling Roop was going to win. Being that tall with that kind of reach at 145 is just insane.

Plus it's hard to justify -250 to a brawler that just threw haymakers for 15 minutes with Garcia. I don't think anybody really knew how he fights when fighting somebody in a "normal" fight.

[SPX]

Anyone else seeing these ridiculous "Gracie Jiu-jitsu" commercials?

[SPX]

I'm really tempted to put some cash on Torres.

How will he lose??

[Svino]

Anyone else seeing these ridiculous "Gracie Jiu-jitsu" commercials?

I did, but now I'm watching it on this Setanta channel where everything's a soccer ad.

[SPX]

I did, but now I'm watching it on this Setanta channel where everything's a soccer ad.

If you don't know Gracie jiu-jitsu . . . you don't know how to fight!!!!

[poopoo333]

I'm really tempted to put some cash on Torres.

How will he lose??

I double dare you.

[SPX]

I double dare you.

I will if you will . . . if the line's still open.

[Luke]

Anyone else seeing these ridiculous "Gracie Jiu-jitsu" commercials?


I dont watch commericals ,seriously

[poopoo333]

I double dare you.

I will if you will . . . if the line's still open.

Hmmm... to break my rule of not betting over -300 on a guy that has been demolished in his last 2 fights?

Naw, not gonna.

[edman5555]

I double dare you.

I will if you will . . . if the line's still open.


Decision? from getting taken down by Velancia.

[SPX]

Hmmm... to break my rule of not betting over -300 on a guy that has been demolished in his last 2 fights?

Naw, not gonna.

We will regret this decision.

[Luke]

I double dare you.

I will if you will . . . if the line's still open.


this fight will be closer than you think

[poopoo333]

Just kidding, 0.5u to win 0.125u on Torres LOL HAHA LOL HAHA

[Svino]

Active finish.

[SPX]

this fight will be closer than you think

I see.

[poopoo333]

Haha SPX, we should have went big

[SPX]

Haha SPX, we should have went big

Dude, I actually had 10u queued up and just had to hit that "confirm" button. But that's hard to do.

I didn't realize how small Valencia was, though. 5'3"? If I knew he was the size of a small child I would've done it.

[Luke]

this fight will be closer than you think

I see.


Maybe I should rub things in your face every time you make a tard bet instead of saying "sorry spx" ::handshake::


Maybe next time I'll say " well that was stupid"

[SPX]

Maybe I should rub things in your face every time you make a tard bet instead of saying "sorry spx" ::handshake::


Maybe next time I'll say " well that was stupid"

Did you actually bet on Valencia?

[Luke]

Did you actually bet on Valencia?


No , only thing I bet was Varner on this card.

[Ludo]

Heh, well look at that. The Chinamin won.

[SPX]

No , only thing I bet was Varner on this card.

So what's the problem? You challenged my near-bet. I defended myself.

[SPX]

Heh, well look at that. The Chinamin won.

Hell yeah.

[Luke]

No , only thing I bet was Varner on this card.

So what's the problem? You challenged my near-bet. I defended myself.


It would have been like me saying "I told you so" after Edgar beat Penn since I tried to talk you out of it for a week before the fight.

Did I ? Nope

I'm not going to be right every opinion I give ,none of us will

[Luke]

Jesus I can get Gamburyan @ +600 on matchbook.


screw it .25 to win 1.5

[poopoo333]

I have a feeling Cerrone is going ot take this. ::nailbiter::

[Luke]

I have a feeling Cerrone is going ot take this. ::nailbiter::


Its probably just gas, I have it too

[SPX]

It would have been like me saying "I told you so" after Edgar beat Penn since I tried to talk you out of it for a week before the fight.

Did I ? Nope

I'm not going to be right every opinion I give ,none of us will


Well my apologies. That's not how I interpreted it.

I appreciate your concern.

[Ludo]

He's definitely the more fired up of the two. Varner sounds/looks a little timid here. I think the constant feeling of breaking his hands has him worried these days, especially against a guy who already broke one of'em with his noggin before. Plus he knows Cerrone fucking hates him. We are either going to see Varner grinding one out and doing his thing, or running scared and crying about broken hands.

[Luke]

I appreciate your concern.


I have concerns for your mom and her price increases

[zY|]

LOL at Varner spitting out his mouth piece

[Luke]

10-8 Varner?

[poopoo333]

Varner is going to lose. My dry spell continues.

[zY|]

LOL at Cerrone hitting well timed takedowns.

[zY|]

LOL at Varner hurting his eye.

[Luke]

Varner get outwrestled , crap


20-18 Cerrone

[SPX]

Cerrone is about to become one of those guys . . . regardless of whether I bet ON him or AGAINST him . . . I lose.

[edman5555]

apparently Varner is a fucking idiot. Why the hell is he trying to stand with the kickboxer? He is a god damn D1 wrestler. Go for the takedown. Too late now, he loses. Shithead.

[Luke]

LOL at Cerrone hitting well timed takedowns.


Are you ok?

[Svino]

Varner get outwrestled , crap

Yeah, didn't see that happening either.

[poopoo333]

Cerrone is a douche.

[SPX]

Varner is such a neurotic motherfucker.

What was up with that last minute push from behind?

[edman5555]

Varner stinks.

[Luke]

Well crap. Need Gamby to win to save the night

[zY|]

Varner is such a neurotic motherfucker.

What was up with that last minute push from behind?

Probably had to do with Cerrone shoving him with his elbow in his neck.

Looks like Varner realized it was a bad idea and stopped himself short though.

[SPX]

Probably had to do with Cerrone shoving him with his elbow in his neck.


I didn't see that.

[poopoo333]

I should just but my entire bankroll on Aldo.

But if I did that Aldo would lose by breaking his leg on the first leg kick he throws.

[SPX]

10u on Aldo

Seriously.

[poopoo333]

Well if Garcia won tonight, I would have won $400 off of $1. I picked Cerrone to win in the first place, when that parlay lost I bet on Varner because I figured his wrestling would dictate the fight. I was wrong, again.

[Luke]

People never learn

[SPX]

I feel about this fight the same way I felt about Torres/Valencia.

Aldo's badass.

[poopoo333]

I am not going to chase. But I have had such a bad streak over the past week over football and MMA. I was up 20u overall since I restarted my bankroll in July, not I am up 3u...and that's not even because of being wreckless...I just can't seem to win a bet!

[Svino]

I am not going to chase. But I have had such a bad streak over the past week over football and MMA. I was up 20u overall since I restarted my bankroll in July, not I am up 3u...and that's not even because of being wreckless...I just can't seem to win a bet!

After my good night on ufc 117, I am in by far, the worst streak I've ever had.

[SPX]

...I just can't seem to win a bet!

Yeah, sometimes you feel like you just can't BUY a win. I've felt like that lately.

But Jesus, it's Aldo against the guy who got knocked out by Rob Emerson.

[SPX]

After my good night on ufc 117, I am in by far, the worst streak I've ever had.

Something's been up lately. I'm not sure what it is. But shit just hasn't been right. A lot of guys have been fluking out and others have been picking up lucky decisions.

[zY|]

But Jesus, it's Aldo against the guy who got knocked out by Rob Emerson.

LOL indeed.

[zY|]

I can't believe they give this shit away for free.

[Thewiseman]

10.1u on Aldo to win 2u

[SPX]

I see one . . . and ONLY one . . . path to victory for Manny, and that's a Serra-esque KO.

[zY|]

Manny did well for himself early, but his leg is going to be toast soon.

[Luke]

10-10

no one deserved that round

[SPX]

Manny did well for himself early, but his leg is going to be toast soon.

That's what I'm thinking.

As a matter of fact, I said out loud "oh yeah, the leg kicks . . . I forgot about those" . . . and then thought of Faber.

[poopoo333]

I am not going to chase. But I have had such a bad streak over the past week over football and MMA. I was up 20u overall since I restarted my bankroll in July, not I am up 3u...and that's not even because of being wreckless...I just can't seem to win a bet!

After my good night on ufc 117, I am in by far, the worst streak I've ever had.

Yeah, UFC 117 was a great night for me. I was very confident in Hughes and Fitch and it worked out. I put more on Hughes in that fight then I have put on any favorites lately.

[poopoo333]

Gamburyan is dead

[SPX]

Nice!

Saved my night.

[Svino]

I am not going to chase. But I have had such a bad streak over the past week over football and MMA. I was up 20u overall since I restarted my bankroll in July, not I am up 3u...and that's not even because of being wreckless...I just can't seem to win a bet!

After my good night on ufc 117, I am in by far, the worst streak I've ever had.

Yeah, UFC 117 was a great night for me. I was very confident in Hughes and Fitch and it worked out. I put more on Hughes in that fight then I have put on any favorites lately.

Yeah, I need more cards with good odds on wrestlers.

[zY|]

High quality violence right there.

[SPX]

I also did excellently at 117. And I think that, for me too, it was the beginning of my current hellish losing streak.

[Thewiseman]

+2.7u

[poopoo333]

-3u

[SPX]

Damn, this motherfucker cleared out as soon as the fights were over. . .

[poopoo333]

Damn, this motherfucker cleared out as soon as the fights were over. . .

Yeah I kept refreshing and nobody was here.

How much did you come out ahead tonight?

[Luke]

There are talks starting about Aldo moving up in weight to fight Edgar.


Why not just merge WEC and the UFC?

[zY|]

I'm sure they'd love to and it's probably in the works, but the logistics aren't there right now and these things take time. Contracts, cable deals, you can't just magically make shit like that happen.

[Luke]

I'm sure they'd love to and it's probably in the works, but the logistics aren't there right now and these things take time. Contracts, cable deals, you can't just magically make shit like that happen.


The UFC has owned WEC for 4 years how long does it take lol?

[Luke]

Mike Brown vs. Cole Province fight video

http://www.versus.com/blogs/mma-beat/watch-mike-brown-vs-cole-province-from-wec-51/

[zY|]

^^Gayest stoppage ever

[Mr. IWS]

Dam, that was weak. First I seen of it.

[SPX]

Not a great stoppage.

I am happy to see that Mike Brown came to fight, though. Nigga looked like he was seriously looking to beat some ass.

[Mr. IWS]

Provence looked fuckin depressed right before the fight started.

[SPX]

Provence looked fuckin depressed right before the fight started.

Probably depressed he had to fight Mike Brown. . .

[Luke]

Yeah i thought it was a horrible stoppage too