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poopoo333
09-30-2010, 01:34 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/319.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

poopoo333
10-01-2010, 12:30 PM
Huerta might be a good play @+205, I think he will do well in a 5 round fight. I also like Askren to win, but I don't know much about Good.

SPX
10-01-2010, 12:37 PM
. . . but I don't know much about Good.

I know he has a commercial where he tries to get you to come join his school.

MMA_scientist
10-01-2010, 01:11 PM
Good is really explosive, but Askren is going to blow through him IMO

Huerta seems undervalued to me, but I don't see a clear path to victory for him. He is a little behind in the striking and wrestling IMO, he has better subs, but probably not enough to catch Eddie.

poopoo333
10-04-2010, 03:20 PM
5.2u to win 2u on Askren @-260

MMA_scientist
10-04-2010, 03:33 PM
I need to look at Good again. Did you do any research on Good?

I am thinking about Askren here as part of my new thing

poopoo333
10-04-2010, 03:44 PM
I need to look at Good again. Did you do any research on Good?

I am thinking about Askren here as part of my new thing

Good is just an aggressive striker who hasn't really beaten anybody noteworthy. He hasn't fought since June 2009 either... I think Askren will be able to take Good down at will and keep him there. I don't see Good submitting Askren either. If Hornbuckle couldn't submit Askren, I don't think Good will either. Good will probably not be as aggressive as he usually will because you know his #1 priority in this fight is to avoid the takedown.

Also, I am never betting against a good wrestler again.

SPX
10-04-2010, 03:52 PM
Also, I am never betting against a good wrestler again.

You're on Rashad over Shogun?

MMA_scientist
10-04-2010, 03:53 PM
He can't handle Askren on the ground... flat out will not happen. The only question is if ben can get it there and keep it there. Good is really explosive though, which means he is probably going to get tired if he can't finish Askren off early. Did you get a look at Good's takedown defense? All the fights I have seen, he was the one looking for the takedowns.

MMA_scientist
10-04-2010, 03:56 PM
Also, I am never betting against a good wrestler again.

Just depends who they are fighting. Chuck Lidell will still beat any wrestler that cannot outstike him... Hathaway might be the next wrestler slayer @ 170.

MMA_scientist
10-05-2010, 05:28 PM
Lineup final, some new stuff here. Rick Hawn is a beast, olympic Judo guy with power in his hands. Reis/Taurosevicius is interesting too

Bellator Welterweight Championship
Lyman Good vs. Ben Askren

Eddie Alvarez vs. Roger Huerta
Wilson Reis vs. Deividas Taurosevicius
Rick Hawn vs. LeVon Maynard
Jamal Patterson vs. Tim Carpenter
Tuan Pham vs. Nick Cottone

sbjj
10-05-2010, 06:55 PM
Real interested in the Reis-Taurosevicius line. I hope Taurosevicius is the healthy dog.

MMA_scientist
10-05-2010, 09:21 PM
^^ I am not super familiar with taurosevicius. I know he has some quality wins and has been facing stiff comp in the WEC. BUt what is his style all about? Isn't he mostly a sumission guy? He can't beat Reis on the mat.

To me this looks like a grappler/grappler matchup... with one guy being better at that element (Reis). But, like I said, I am not real familiar with Tauro...

sbjj
10-05-2010, 10:46 PM
Tauro is a real tough grinder. I think he will have a strength advantage here. I could see him pushing Reis up against the cage and beating him up a bit while mixing in takedowns. He also can go a real tough 3 rounds without gassing. I could see Reis losing rounds 2 and 3 here. much of this opinion dependes upon the line. i think it is a real close fight. But to be honest i think i would give Tauro the edge.

MMA_scientist
10-12-2010, 08:45 PM
4u on Askren @ -255

SPX
10-14-2010, 01:05 PM
In case ya'll missed this. . .


http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/3188.png

ctm0808
10-14-2010, 02:43 PM
“I’m going in there to finish him,” Huerta said. “I’m not going in there to play patty cake or to fight a technical fight. I’m coming in to fight. … I’m telling you this right now: I’m not holding anything back. From the moment they say go, we touch gloves -- it’s going to be on.”

“I feel like if Eddie wins, he ends up killing my career,” Huerta said. “I can’t take another loss. This is really personal for me. This is my life.”

I'm hoping Huerta gets this win. Very tough fight though, I'm not sure if the +200 is enough for a bet on him.

edman5555
10-16-2010, 08:33 PM
I think Alvarez and Askren will win.

poopoo333
10-16-2010, 09:39 PM
http://www.flowrestling.org/videos/play ... hields-ask (http://www.flowrestling.org/videos/play/359735-shields-ask)

^^Askren and Shields training together

MMA_scientist
10-18-2010, 09:23 AM
After another brutal week I am betting Askren and Hawn here. If I can't get anything going, I am mailing it in for a while. I am losing too much money. I have given back almost all of my 2010 gains. I only bet to win, if I am not winning, I quit. I am going to go back to playing notional bets for a while until I get my steam back.

So
4u on Askren @ -255

4u on Hawn/Askren to win 3.3

MMA_scientist
10-18-2010, 09:34 AM
video of Askren and Shields training. I don't think I have been giving Shields enough credit, his technique is tight, and he handles Akren's superior wrestling really well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r3FKntr ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r3FKntrvxE&feature=player_embedded)

poopoo333
10-18-2010, 10:39 AM
video of Askren and Shields training. I don't think I have been giving Shields enough credit, his technique is tight, and he handles Akren's superior wrestling really well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r3FKntr ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r3FKntrvxE&feature=player_embedded)

Copycat.


Askren better win on thursdsay.

MMA_scientist
10-18-2010, 10:52 AM
lol. I didn't even see you posted it.

Askren will win. He has a superior ground game and the means to get the fight to his realm. At this point, Askren has fought and beaten way better competition than Good as well. The only issue is whether Good will be able to catch Askren coming in or stand up repeatedly. I doubt it. This is the type of fight in need to bet and only this type of fight.

SPX
10-18-2010, 10:57 AM
After another brutal week I am betting Askren and Hawn here. If I can't get anything going, I am mailing it in for a while. I am losing too much money. I have given back almost all of my 2010 gains. I only bet to win, if I am not winning, I quit. I am going to go back to playing notional bets for a while until I get my steam back.


Notional bets?

MMA_scientist
10-18-2010, 11:04 AM
After another brutal week I am betting Askren and Hawn here. If I can't get anything going, I am mailing it in for a while. I am losing too much money. I have given back almost all of my 2010 gains. I only bet to win, if I am not winning, I quit. I am going to go back to playing notional bets for a while until I get my steam back.


Notional bets?

Pretend bets.

I don't really need to do it, I just need to stop betting like a fucking asshole and get back to my game. Even the Kongo and Hathaway bets this weekend, they don't fit my criteria. Pyle surprised the shit out of me, but I can excuse that one because it was part of a parlay.

SPX
10-18-2010, 11:10 AM
We should've won the Kongo bet, but whatever.

The Hathaway fight was a perfect example of why MMA is so hard to cap. I really thought Hathaway would run right through Pyle and if his line had been just a little better I would've taken him. It's crazy that he ended up getting to like -600 at some books.

MMA_scientist
10-18-2010, 11:15 AM
We should've won the Kongo bet, but whatever.

The Hathaway fight was a perfect example of why MMA is so hard to cap. I really thought Hathaway would run right through Pyle and if his line had been just a little better I would've taken him. It's crazy that he ended up getting to like -600 at some books.

I would not have bet him straight up, but I had him as part of my locks parlay. I just didn't see any way that Pyle was going to get him down and keep it there. Pyle came out with improved takedowns and just shut him down. He was doing better than I imagined he would in the stand up exchanges too.

I really think we are starting to see another shift in mma. At first we had bjj. Then wrestlers came in and figured out how to stop the triangle. Then strikers figured out how to stop the takedowns. We have been in the "wrestlers that can strike" phase for a while... now I think we are seeing non "wrestlers" round out thier games a little bit with takedowns and standing up. If everybody can do a little of everything, it is going to make it hard as hell to cap.

SPX
10-18-2010, 11:29 AM
I really think we are starting to see another shift in mma. At first we had bjj. Then wrestlers came in and figured out how to stop the triangle. Then strikers figured out how to stop the takedowns. We have been in the "wrestlers that can strike" phase for a while... now I think we are seeing non "wrestlers" round out thier games a little bit with takedowns and standing up. If everybody can do a little of everything, it is going to make it hard as hell to cap.

Yeah, I think you're right. If nothing else we're definitely seeing a general move toward well-roundedness among more fighters.

I wonder if the time will come when EVERYONE is well-rounded or if there will always be guys who are REALLY good at one particular skills while lacking in others (wrestlers and BJJ guys who can't strike, strikers who have no ground game, etc.).

MMA_scientist
10-18-2010, 11:44 AM
I think there will always be guys that are dominant in one area, and those guys will continue to be the best fighters, IMO. Being a great striker requires a different athletic skill set than being a great wrestler. But it is the in-between skills that are getting better. But the best guys are still the guys that can force their games on the other guy.

MMA_scientist
10-19-2010, 02:38 PM
Rick Hawn is a beast. He was scheduled to fight Braulio Estima on the Shine card that got cancelled in Florida this summer. He is an olympic judoka that has massive KO power in his hands. His line has dropped a lot, as I think people finally got around to looking at who who is and who he is fighting. I bet him at the early line, but I wish I would not have done that dumbass parlay.

Ludo
10-19-2010, 11:13 PM
Honestly I don't think it's so much a shift as it is really just a hard look at reality where a few up and comers were concerned. Dunham, Escudero, Hathaway, Pearson, Bader even. Guys who seemingly had no ceiling even for the immediate. I think many of us, Myself included, put way too much stock in these younger guys that we forgot that there is truly no such thing as a "gimme" in this sport. I didn't think Hathaway would lose either, but I think everyone overlooked the fact that Pyle is a crafty veteran of 11 years in the sport who knew some shit. Hype is a powerful, yet dangerous concept for bettors.

MMA_scientist
10-20-2010, 09:49 AM
yeah, I wasn't totally sold on Hathaway as the next big thing... but Pyle is sort of a journeyman. I have always viewed him as a dangerous guard player with crappy takedowns and mediocre hands. Hathaway was able to stuff Story and Sanchez, I just didn't think Pyle had beter takedowns than both of them. And I guess I underestimated his hands or overestimated Hathaway's. Which I guess is the point...

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 12:00 PM
Fuck my Life. This shit is in Philly, and aint even on TV. I cant go tonight, I got too much shit going on.

Feelsbadman.jpg

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 02:50 PM
For once it is actually on @ 7pm on Fox at my place. Good thing because this is probably their best card.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 03:32 PM
For once it is actually on @ 7pm on Fox at my place. Good thing because this is probably their best card.

It starts here @ 9 EST. Is that live?

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 03:53 PM
For once it is actually on @ 7pm on Fox at my place. Good thing because this is probably their best card.

It starts here @ 9 EST. Is that live?

Maybe it is on at 8pm. I am on CST. Either way, it is actually on during waking hours... usually it gets trumped by cardinals baseball here. I have like 2 weeks of breathing room before it startes getting trumped ny college basketball

SPX
10-21-2010, 06:37 PM
So is everyone just riding the bandwagon on Askren or is he really that much of a sure thing?

zY|
10-21-2010, 06:37 PM
So is everyone just riding the bandwagon on Askren or is he really that much of a sure thing?

He's going to lose. (avoiding the IWS curse)

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 07:17 PM
With the IWS curse, Askren will probably be outwrestled and lose a decision.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 07:29 PM
i see it the same way i see every striker/grappler mathup. the grappler is goig to win if he has the tools to get the fight down and keep it there. Askren does, so he will win every fight until he faces someone who can stop his takedowns or beat him on the mat.

If he loses it is because Good can stuff his takedowns.

As i see it, Askren has a big edge on the mat, and he can get it there. So Good will have to cath him coming in, which rarely happens. It is an easy bet for me.

SPX
10-21-2010, 07:31 PM
If he loses it is because Good can stuff his takedowns.

I've never seen Good fight. Is his TDD just not good?

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 07:33 PM
If he loses it is because Good can stuff his takedowns.

I've never seen Good fight. Is his TDD just not good?

He does a lot of GNP himself. He is an athletic guy, but Askren is Askren. He is going to get any WW down but GSP, ad even then, he might would have a good chance.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 07:42 PM
Tiger Shulmans 4-Life

SPX
10-21-2010, 07:48 PM
Did ya'll figure out when it's coming on?

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 07:55 PM
5 minutes.

Ill slum it with you fags for a while tonight.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 07:56 PM
Yep it is actually on live for me tonight. Don't have to watch a stream for once. Get to watch in HD on a 65".

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 07:58 PM
I don't get home from work for another hour....darn

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 07:59 PM
Yep it is actually on live for me tonight. Don't have to watch a stream for once. Get to watch in HD on a 65".
::thumbdown::

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:00 PM
Oh shit, its on for me.

feelsgoodman.jpg

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:01 PM
I retract my thumbsdown to you Scientist. I was just hatin.
::handshake::

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:01 PM
215

Kenzo's in the house!

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:08 PM
Ill slum it with you fags for a while tonight.

I'm sure we would all undoubtedly consider that an honor and a privilege.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:13 PM
I am on Haw here. Time to get right.

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:14 PM
Anyone got a stream better than the one on channelsurfing?

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:17 PM
Dayum, he tossed that cat like a fuckin trench coat

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:18 PM
Damn, that motherfucker just busted out a good ol' fashioned ippon seoi-nage.

Not sure I've ever seen one of those in MMA before.

Congrats Scientist. War Judo.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 08:21 PM
Meh I am gonna leave work early to watch these. Link a stream for me for wheen I get home!

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:22 PM
Meh I am gonna leave work early to watch these.

You can just do that?

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:26 PM
Fuckin awesome.

zY|
10-21-2010, 08:27 PM
Sweet I got hockey.

Where's the cool kids stream and did I miss anything?

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:28 PM
http://channelsurfing.net/watch-bellato ... ships.html (http://channelsurfing.net/watch-bellator-fighting-championships.html)

zY|
10-21-2010, 08:29 PM
Thanks.

No Veetle stream?

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:29 PM
Sweet I got hockey.

Where's the cool kids stream and did I miss anything?

Hawn pulled out a really nice ippon seoi nage and finished up with some gnp. He straight ragdolled that guy.

Judo throw in mma is probably my most favoritist thing to see.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:29 PM
Sweet I got hockey.

Where's the cool kids stream and did I miss anything?

Judo guy did a fuckin okie-doke throw on some stocky cocky black guy. No bigz

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:31 PM
Thanks.

No Veetle stream?

I haven't found one. But if you run FlashHacker it will eliminate the full-screen problem.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:32 PM
Funky via LnP?

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:33 PM
Funky via LnP?

submission.

Funky doesn't lnp at all. Don't hate.

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:35 PM
This is a fight of Good . . . vs evil.

See what I did there?

zY|
10-21-2010, 08:35 PM
Thanks.

No Veetle stream?

I haven't found one. But if you run FlashHacker it will eliminate the full-screen problem.

FlashHacker looks cool but I can't get it to work. Hmm.

And I'm sad I missed the Rick Hawn awesomeness.

EDIT: nvm I see it doesn't work with Chrome.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:36 PM
[quote="IWS Zak":w2zhchx0]Funky via LnP?

submission.

Funky doesn't lnp at all. Don't hate.[/quote:w2zhchx0]

I dunno man. Tiger Shullman trained = Un-submitable.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:36 PM
This is a fight of Good . . . vs evil.

See what I did there?

Classy....

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:37 PM
[quote="MMA_scientist":3tv5j558][quote="IWS Zak":3tv5j558]Funky via LnP?

submission.

Funky doesn't lnp at all. Don't hate.[/quote:3tv5j558]

I dunno man. Tiger Shullman trained = Un-submitable.[/quote:3tv5j558]

No man is immune to being choked.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 08:37 PM
Sweet, home just in time for the Askren fight.

WAR ASKREN

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:38 PM
Askren's physique is lolz

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:39 PM
13 seconds to the takedown

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:39 PM
Askren looks like he can end this shit whenever he wants. He is really looking for that sub.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 08:40 PM
Apparently:

"Reis defeated Taurosevi?ius via decision (split)."

-Wikipedia

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:40 PM
game over....................

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:40 PM
shit, lyman showig a tough guard.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:40 PM
da fuk?

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:41 PM
FlashHacker looks cool but I can't get it to work. Hmm.

And I'm sad I missed the Rick Hawn awesomeness.

EDIT: nvm I see it doesn't work with Chrome.

I think you can manually edit the hex code for Chrome if you want to get all techy and shit.

Search for something like "flash hacker Chrome [version of Flash that you have]" and you should come up with something. It's very useful once you have it set up.

zY|
10-21-2010, 08:42 PM
Looks like some M1 level grappling going on.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:42 PM
Dayum, Good hung in there.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:43 PM
10-9 Ben

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:44 PM
Some of that strength is going to fade and Be is going to take over.

right? right guys?

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 08:44 PM
Some of that strength is going to fade and Be is going to take over.

right? right guys?

Right.

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:45 PM
Some of that strength is going to fade and Be is going to take over.

right? right guys?

You look like you're in good shape to me. Good is giving a respectable performance but is clearly losing.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:45 PM
Some of that strength is going to fade and Be is going to take over.

right? right guys?

LOL

He can just pound this fucker out whenever he wants. As long as he dont get caught, you got this.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:46 PM
Some of that strength is going to fade and Be is going to take over.

right? right guys?

Right.

It is already happening

Svino
10-21-2010, 08:46 PM
Some of that strength is going to fade and Be is going to take over.

right? right guys?

Askren can keep this up. I don't see things getting any better for Good.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:46 PM
LOL

He can just pound this fucker out whenever he wants. As long as he dont get caught, you got this.

Askren hits like a bitch. He has to sub him or win a decision

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:48 PM
Askren hits like a bitch. He has to sub him or win a decision

It's rare that anyone does less with full-mount.

zY|
10-21-2010, 08:48 PM
Fuck it just opened the stream in FF. I missed the 2nd round fucking with Chrome. Flashhacker is nice.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:49 PM
10-8

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:49 PM
20-18 Askren

He is raping this fuckin guy.

Svino
10-21-2010, 08:50 PM
Askren hits like a bitch. He has to sub him or win a decision

It's rare that anyone does less with full-mount.

Yeah, but it's also rare that anyone does less when mounted. Good went most of the round mounted without making a single credible escape attempt.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:50 PM
10-8

I thought about that, but Ben didnt really damage Good too much in that round IMO.

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:51 PM
Flashhacker is nice.

Word. It has provided me with a vastly improved life.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 08:51 PM
I had it minimized for a second, and when I opened it up when the 3rd round started Good was already on his back.

areyouawizard.jpg

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:51 PM
Good gassed using so much strength to reverse in rd 1. War techique.

Askren needs another combo beside the americana/armtriange combo

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:52 PM
I guess I should've followed you guys on Askren.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:52 PM
areyouawizard.jpg

lol

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:53 PM
I guess I should've followed you guys on Askren.

+1 on that. I missed the boat on this one. Looked too good to be true I guess.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:53 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:54 PM
finally a big night.

I am on the comeback trail.

+4.8u

2 fight parlays ftw?

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:54 PM
shit balls. I forgot it was 5 rounds. Iwas already countig my cash

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 08:55 PM
That round was close. Good landed some good punches from the bottom. ::eyes::

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:55 PM
30-25

SPX
10-21-2010, 08:56 PM
+1 on that. I missed the boat on this one. Looked too good to be true I guess.

I'd never seen either guy fight so I was trying to be disciplined. That and the fact that I'm cursed when I follow anyone.

If I follow, then they lose. If I don't, then they win.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:56 PM
finally a big night.

I am on the comeback trail.

+4.8u

2 fight parlays ftw?

lol

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:57 PM
+1 on that. I missed the boat on this one. Looked too good to be true I guess.

I'd never seen either guy fight so I was trying to be disciplined. That and the fact that I'm cursed when I follow anyone.

If I follow, then they lose. If I don't, then they win.

that happens every time I follow too.

I am back to my formula though, so no more following for me

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:58 PM
+1 on that. I missed the boat on this one. Looked too good to be true I guess.

I'd never seen either guy fight so I was trying to be disciplined. That and the fact that I'm cursed when I follow anyone.

If I follow, then they lose. If I don't, then they win.


I seen Askren twice, and Good once, but on paper, the styles just looked bad for Good. I figured Askren would just hold him down for the duration (flame suit on Scientist) But the way shit has been going for me, Like poopoo said, Good would have outwrestled him and won a UD.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 08:58 PM
what the fuck. stand up from mount. bs

Svino
10-21-2010, 08:59 PM
Vision's not important. You don't need to see to get taken down and beat on.

WTF standup?!

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 08:59 PM
Oh shit, Ben looks fuckin gassed

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 08:59 PM
How can ANYBODY give round 1 to Good?

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:00 PM
Dam, Askren is a fuckin Pitbull with those take downs.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 09:00 PM
god I am so pissed about that standup. That is shit on the deepest level

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:00 PM
How can ANYBODY give round 1 to Good?

You never know nowadays man.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:01 PM
40-21.5 Side show Askren

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:01 PM
How can ANYBODY give round 1 to Good?

Who did?

Svino
10-21-2010, 09:01 PM
In that last segment, Good was actually hitting Askren more from the bottom.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:02 PM
How can ANYBODY give round 1 to Good?

Who did?

The commentator was talking about how round 1 could have went either way, and on Bloody Elbow the guy said it was close as well: "Tremendous, tremendous round 1. 10-9 Askren, if he hadn't advanced to mount I'd have given it to Good." ...off of one reversal that he didn't do shit with?!

Svino
10-21-2010, 09:04 PM
I love it when wrestlers can finish the takedown with that single.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:06 PM
Dont jump Scientist!

Svino
10-21-2010, 09:06 PM
I almost got Sonnen'd again there.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 09:06 PM
wow. my heart just sunk

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:06 PM
I swear to god I was thinking before that sub attempt: "This better not be another Anderson Silva/Chael Sonnen situation". Literally like 20 seconds before that close call...PHEW

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:07 PM
Good call boys.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 09:07 PM
now I ca celebrate.

+4.8u

I gave rd 5 to Good though.

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:07 PM
That was crazy. I wonder what would've happened if Good had held onto that triangle.

Svino
10-21-2010, 09:08 PM
now I ca celebrate.

+4.8u

I gave rd 5 to Good though.

So did I. Wonder if the judges will.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:08 PM
+2u, if Huerta wins my parlay hits and I win another 5.2u or some shit

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:09 PM
I REALLY hope Huerta wins.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:11 PM
48-47?

WOW

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:11 PM
I had it fucking 50-44

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:12 PM
48-47?

WOW

There were two rounds I could see going to Good.

Aren't you the guy who says the vertical position of a fighter shouldn't matter?

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:12 PM
48-47?

WOW
::lmao::

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:14 PM
Aren't you the guy who says the vertical position of a fighter shouldn't matter?

Nope.

BUT, look at how MMA has been judged lately. Besides tonight, that would never be 48-47.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 09:15 PM
48-47?

WOW

rd 1 and 5. I could see it. I don't agree, but could see it.

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:16 PM
Nope.

BUT, look at how MMA has been judged lately. Besides tonight, that would never be 48-47.

Oh, wait. I thought you were Scientist for a minute. He's the one who always puts gay grapplers in as his avatar.

But he has the Bad Mother Fucker AV now.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:18 PM
If Huerta wins, they are gonna riot in that mutherfucker.

zY|
10-21-2010, 09:19 PM
Huerta is going to win. Calling it now.

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:19 PM
Damn, Huerta doesn't really look right.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 09:19 PM
Yeah, I have said top or bottom i guard shouldn't matter. Askren had mount and showed grappling dominance in all rounds. That said, it can be cancelled out by some actual damage... but there were 3 rounds for sure where Lyman just laid under mount the whole time. Rd. 1, he landed a couple shots, but so did Ben and he had mount and he had the sub attempts. So I gave rd 1 to Ben. Rd 5, I gave to Good though.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:19 PM
Huerta is going to win. Calling it now.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 09:20 PM
Huerta is going to win. Calling it now.

gotta disagree. Alvarez has this won in all areas.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:20 PM
Hopefully Alvarez punches one of the ring girls in the face, that will fire Huerta up.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:22 PM
Damn, Huerta doesn't really look right.

He looks all fucked up in the face, like he is sick or some shit.

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:23 PM
He looks all fucked up in the face, like he is sick or some shit.

Yeah, something. . .

I hope it's just nerves and he comes in and does work.

zY|
10-21-2010, 09:25 PM
[quote="zY|":2x19ostm]Huerta is going to win. Calling it now.

gotta disagree. Alvarez has this won in all areas.[/quote:2x19ostm]

I'm just saying that because if I'm right I'll look like a badass and if I'm wrong no one will remember.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:26 PM
He looks all fucked up in the face, like he is sick or some shit.

Yeah, something. . .

I hope it's just nerves and he comes in and does work.

I think he keeps it close. I wouldnt be suprised if he wins here.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:26 PM
I'm just saying that because if I'm right I'll look like a badass and if I'm wrong no one will remember.


Repeckt

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:27 PM
Fuck Eddie Alvarez.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 09:27 PM
Yeah I would't surprised at all. I think it will be close. I just think Alvarez has a little edge everywhere, better striking and power, better takedowns and wrestling. Huerta probably has a submission edge. He could sub him I guess. Huerta by leg lock

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:28 PM
Huerta by head kick

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 09:31 PM
huerta is a tough sob. His heart is not in it though.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:32 PM
Thats the worst beating I ever seen Huerta take right there. He looks like he doenst belong in the ring wit Alvarez, save for that late flurry.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:33 PM
Fuck Eddie Alvarez.
::thumbdown::

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:33 PM
What the fuck happened to him there at the beginning?

Looked like a standard leg kick and he's acting like he got hit by an atomic bomb.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 09:33 PM
Huerta is all heart.

Really hope he pulls it out.

edman5555
10-21-2010, 09:34 PM
huerta is a tough sob. His heart is not in it though.



Yeah I was thinking the same thing. He tried to go into movies before, now he is back fighting, left the ufc...etc etc. He did catch Alvarez though. I still give r1 to eddie.

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:36 PM
Props to Roger for hanging in there.

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:37 PM
I feel robbed because this fight got all gayed up right at the beginning.

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:39 PM
Damn, Roger just looked broken right there at the end.

edman5555
10-21-2010, 09:40 PM
Ive got money on eddie. I had a HAwn, Askren, Eddie parlay. only a little. But I have about 2.2u on alvarez

Mr. IWS
10-21-2010, 09:40 PM
Damn, Roger just looked broken right there at the end.

Was just coming to post that. He looked like he was done.

edman5555
10-21-2010, 09:41 PM
I win.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:41 PM
Eddie Alvarez is a fucking fucker

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:41 PM
That's the gayest fight I've ever seen. I demand a rematch.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:41 PM
+1.5u for the night.

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:43 PM
Anyone else watching this commercial about how blue screens and viruses can cause "permanent" damage to your computer?

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:43 PM
Anyone else watching this commercial about how blue screens and viruses can cause "permanent" damage to your computer?

No, I'm not on the gay porn channel.

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 09:44 PM
hopefully they show Reis/Tauro. I am sort of pissed because I almost bet Reis.

zY|
10-21-2010, 09:44 PM
Anyone else watching this commercial about how blue screens and viruses can cause "permanent" damage to your computer?

It's shocking how clueless most people are about computers.

And that was a straight up asswhoopin

Luke
10-21-2010, 09:45 PM
when does this come on tonight?

SPX
10-21-2010, 09:47 PM
when does this come on tonight?

LOL

edman5555
10-21-2010, 09:48 PM
hopefully they show Reis/Tauro. I am sort of pissed because I almost bet Reis.



I thought about betting him too, than I heard SBJJ talking about Tauro being a grinder and I looked up the size difference. I also almost bet Rick Hawn/other guy he fought fight ends in R1 @ +170. Heh it ended at 4:53 seconds of the first round.

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 09:48 PM
Ok time to watch the Phillies win so I can win 2.1 more units

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 10:07 PM
hopefully they show Reis/Tauro. I am sort of pissed because I almost bet Reis.



I thought about betting him too, than I heard SBJJ talking about Tauro being a grinder and I looked up the size difference. I also almost bet Rick Hawn/other guy he fought fight ends in R1 @ +170. Heh it ended at 4:53 seconds of the first round.

yeah, sbjj talked me out of it too. Not blaming, just sayin.

zY|
10-21-2010, 10:08 PM
http://i51.tinypic.com/2eq993l.jpg

MMA_scientist
10-21-2010, 10:19 PM
^^ not ippo seio nage. I don't know it would be called because my judo lexicon and categorization skills are not good, but you do not reap with the seio nage. I can't tell but it almost looks like harai makikomi or uchi mata

poopoo333
10-21-2010, 10:25 PM
http://blog.bellator.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/F5_IMG_1.jpg

zY|
10-21-2010, 10:27 PM
^^ not ippo seio nage. I don't know it would be called because my judo lexicon and categorization skills are not good, but you do not reap with the seio nage. I can't tell but it almost looks like harai makikomi or uchi mata

I know what you call it.

Bad. fucking. ACE.

SPX
10-21-2010, 10:31 PM
^^ not ippo seio nage. I don't know it would be called because my judo lexicon and categorization skills are not good, but you do not reap with the seio nage. I can't tell but it almost looks like harai makikomi or uchi mata

Are you sure there's a reap there? I think there might be something of an optical illusion in that gif and it looks like Real G's legs is actually Whitey's.

Svino
10-22-2010, 12:51 AM
Are you sure there's a reap there? I think there might be something of an optical illusion in that gif and it looks like Real G's legs is actually Whitey's.

Yeah, looked like a shoulder throw to me. I don't think I saw any reapin'.

SPX
10-22-2010, 01:18 AM
Yeah, looked like a shoulder throw to me. I don't think I saw any reapin'.

I've looked at it over and over and there is no reap. I think this was more obvious during the actual broadcast.

Stop trying to mislead us, Scientist. . .

MMA_scientist
10-22-2010, 02:20 PM
Are you sure there's a reap there? I think there might be something of an optical illusion in that gif and it looks like Real G's legs is actually Whitey's.


You are right. In the gif I was seeing Hawn's leg come up... but it is just an illusion in that gif. If you watch his feet, they stay on the ground. Ippon seio nage.