UFC 133 : Injuries

[edman5555]

The following fights have been confirmed by reliable sources, but not yet added to UFC.com.

Middleweight bout: Jorge Rivera vs. Alessio Sakara[2]
Bantamweight bout: Michael McDonald vs. Nick Pace[3]
Middleweight bout: Rafael Natal vs. Riki Fukuda[4]



I feel like Fukuda can beat Natal.

[Luke]

Any rumors on a main event for this card?

[zY|]

Any rumors on a main event for this card?


Middleweight bout: Jorge Rivera vs. Alessio Sakara

You lookin at it, budday

[Ludo]

I think Fukuda gets the win he should already have in the UFC.

[edman5555]

I think Fukada is a very good bet.

[poopoo333]

Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Vitor Belfort booked for UFC 133 in Philadelphia (http://mmajunkie.com/news/23325/yoshihiro-akiyama-vs-vitor-belfort-booked-for-augusts-ufc-133-event.mma)

[SPX]

Damn, they have straight thrown Akiyama to the WOLVES.

[Mr. IWS]

Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Vitor Belfort booked for UFC 133 in Philadelphia (http://mmajunkie.com/news/23325/yoshihiro-akiyama-vs-vitor-belfort-booked-for-augusts-ufc-133-event.mma)

215! Will be on Vitor in this one.

Ill talk a bunch of shit about going, but never actually do it.

::handshake::

[poopoo333]

Brian Ebersole vs. Dennis Hallman Planned for UFC 133 (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/4/21/2125887/brian-ebersole-vs-dennis-hallman-planned-for-ufc-133)

[edman5555]

ebersole hallman is an interesting matchup. I am really not sure who wins that one. I feel like Lytle could have done a lot better against Ebersole. Ebersole is no joke though, either is Hallman.

[SPX]

I'm really surprised Hallman has been doing as well as he has been. I figured he'd go 0-2 or 1-2 at best and that would be it. He's showing these young bucks what's up, though.

[Luke]

Franklin-Lil Nog added

[poopoo333]

Lil Nog by being a Brazilian southpaw

[zY|]

Lil Nog by being a Brazilian southpaw

To clarify this, Franklin is 0-4 against Brazilian southpaws, getting flatlined in brutal fashion all 4 times.

[Svino]

Yeah, this is finally a good fight for Little Nog. I'm glad the UFC is making it.

[poopoo333]

LINE GUESSES?!

[Luke]

LINE GUESSES?!


12 ::handshake::

[zY|]

-115/-115

Really going out on a limb here.

[Luke]

I'll say lil nog -175 as a guess

[edman5555]

lil nog should be able to win that

[Luke]

lil nog should be able to win that


What does that equal for a line?

[Vandelay]

Jon Jones out, Phil Davis in vs Rashad Evans.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/23365/jon-jones-injured-phil-davis-vs-rashad-evans-now-targeted-for-ufc-133.mma

[SPX]

What the fuck, man?

[Mr. IWS]

Jon Jones out, Phil Davis in vs Rashad Evans.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/23365/jon-jones-injured-phil-davis-vs-rashad-evans-now-targeted-for-ufc-133.mma

Lawall

Davis biting off more than he can chew here.

[SPX]

You think so?

I wonder what the line will be.

[poopoo333]

Lame. I feel bad for Rashad.

[Svino]

LOL, all that bad blood for nothing.

[Luke]

You think so?

I wonder what the line will be.

Evans might have ring rust from the long layoff so I wouldnt count Davis out . With that said I'd make Evans around a -200 fav

[zY|]

Pretty gay.

Honestly, they shouldn't have announced the change. If Phil Davis walked in to the cage as Jon Jones, could anyone tell the difference?

[Luke]

If Phil Davis walked in to the cage as Jon Jones, could anyone tell the difference?


::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::

[poopoo333]

"(The torn tissue in my right hand in the area between my thumb and forefinger) is an injury that’s been recurring since I was a college wrestler, it doesn’t affect my punching or grappling, but I am taking the time and the proper measures to correct this now, so that it doesn’t happen again. I look forward to getting back to training and to my first title defense. As for Rashad, let’s see what happens with Phil Davis. I will be watching that fight with great interest."

[Luke]

"(The torn tissue in my right hand in the area between my thumb and forefinger) is an injury that’s been recurring since I was a college wrestler, it doesn’t affect my punching or grappling, but I am taking the time and the proper measures to correct this now, so that it doesn’t happen again. I look forward to getting back to training and to my first title defense. As for Rashad, let’s see what happens with Phil Davis. I will be watching that fight with great interest."


Sounds like he got a little crazy masterbating and hurt himself pretty good

[SPX]

Ha ha. That was pretty good..

[Luke]

Vitor Belfort Stricken with Hepatitis A, Fight with Akiyama at UFC 133 Still a Go http://ht.ly/4GM5U (http://ht.ly/4GM5U)

[zY|]

"(The torn tissue in my right hand in the area between my thumb and forefinger) is an injury that’s been recurring since I was a college wrestler, it doesn’t affect my punching or grappling, but I am taking the time and the proper measures to correct this now, so that it doesn’t happen again. I look forward to getting back to training and to my first title defense. As for Rashad, let’s see what happens with Phil Davis. I will be watching that fight with great interest."

Translated: Ducking Rashad.

[Luke]

I think this is actually better for Rashad. Instead of him coming into the fight with a layoff Jones will be ,that's if Rashad wins against Davis/Jones whoever he is fighting now

[edman5555]

Yeah Rashad will be better off fighting Jones without a 1 year layoff. He is at a disadvantage against him anyways if you ask me.

[Thewisemann]

Rashad should take this. Davis doesnt impress me. He is very good, but not elite, yet.

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/390.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

You guys are slackers, this line was released 2 hours ago. (I couldn't post it because I was on my phone in class). Opened at -215 Rashad/+165 Davis. I bet Davis @+150

[Vandelay]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/390.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

You guys are slackers, this line was released 2 hours ago. (I couldn't post it because I was on my phone in class). Opened at -215 Rashad/+165 Davis. I bet Davis @+150

Wow. Lotta free time on your hands?

[poopoo333]

Wow. Lotta free time on your hands?

a/s/l?

[Luke]

Opened at -215 Rashad/+165 Davis.

Hits nail on head . Pats self on back while smiling

[SPX]

a/s/l?

Does anyone actually say that anymore?

I'm guessing no since no one really uses chat rooms anymore, which is actually a damn shame, because chat rooms are the shit.

[SPX]

I'll definitely be on Rashad as long as Bookmaker opens his line at -130 or better.

[MMA_scientist]

Don't know who I like in this fight. Rashad should have the hands to win... but Davis is better on the ground and should have a takedown edge and he could come out massively improved. I guess I like Davis here, hopefully his line will go + again.

[poopoo333]

Does anyone actually say that anymore?

I'm guessing no since no one really uses chat rooms anymore, which is actually a damn shame, because chat rooms are the shit.

Fuck it. I made one for IWS:

http://www.chatzy.com/380225023452

[Thewisemann]

At a glance, I would take Evans at those odds, but will wait.

[SPX]

Fuck it. I made one for IWS:

http://www.chatzy.com/380225023452

LOL. I see.

I wonder if we'll ever use it.

[poopoo333]

Come in right now

[MMA_scientist]

I could see it getting used in live events.

[poopoo333]

poopoo333 started chat
poopoo333: forever alone

[poopoo333]

poopoo333: why the fuck is nobody coming in here?'
SPX: I dunno. Maybe you should post something else saying that we're in here they need to join the party.

[MMA_scientist]

lol, why don't guys have cyber butt sex? We can barely maintain action for a forum, no need to chat right now.

[poopoo333]

lol, why don't guys have cyber butt sex? We can barely maintain action for a forum, no need to chat right now.

poopoo333: scientist just suggested we have cyber butt sex
poopoo333: wanna give it a go?




He isn't answering.

[MMA_scientist]

::lmao::

[edman5555]

I give Rashad the edge in that one. Phil was having trouble taking down Lil nog for a while. Granted Bader did too but Evans has good wrestling and way more exp than Davis.

[Luke]

but Davis is better on the ground and should have a takedown edge and he could come out massively improved.


http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t233/luke1899/r-u-serious-owl.jpg

[MMA_scientist]

^^ Yeah, why wouldn't I be?

[edman5555]

Luke is such a smartass. That made me laugh though.

[Luke]

^^ Yeah, why wouldn't I be?


did you not just watch the Nog fight and watch Davis struggle over and over again to get Nog down?

[Luke]

Luke is such a smartass. That made me laugh though.

The picture was being a smartass I'll say that......... but I'm not sure Davis has the takedown edge

[Luke]

Luke is such a smartass. That made me laugh though.


BTW I'm not mean 99.99% of the time I'm just joking around I just have a crude/sarcastic sense of humor so if you're every offended by anything I say dont be .I'm probably just joking around no matter how bad it may sound

[zY|]

did you not just watch the Nog fight and watch Davis struggle over and over again to get Nog down?

When has Rashad ever had an easy time taking down ANYONE?

[Ludo]

2u to 1.5u on Rashad

[Luke]

When has Rashad ever had an easy time taking down ANYONE?

Why are you answering a question with another question?

I can do that too.....


dont you think Evans would have had an easier time getting Lil Nog down than Davis did ?

[zY|]

Why are you answering a question with another question?

I can do that too.....


dont you think Evans would have had an easier time getting Lil Nog down than Davis did ?

Because that's how I roll. And no, I don't. Rashad gets takedowns like Jon Fitch and Jake Shields. Leg humping against the cage until you get bored.

[Ludo]

When has Rashad ever had an easy time taking down ANYONE?

Better question. What makes you think Davis can take Rashad down any easier than he did Minotoro?

[Luke]

Because that's how I roll. And no, I don't. Rashad gets takedowns like Jon Fitch and Jake Shields. Leg humping against the cage until you get bored.


I guess the should fight in a ring and then that couldnt happen

















































































































InB4ZySaysThey'djustfallOutoftheRING

[zY|]

Better question. What makes you think Davis can take Rashad down any easier than he did Minotoro?

Well, he did get him down, right?

Don't get me wrong, I think this fight is going to be an ugly clinch battle. Probably going to be awful, actually. Hopefully Rashad knocks his ass out so something happens.

[SPX]

Or the wrestling could cancel out and we get a striking affair.

[zY|]

Or the wrestling could cancel out and we get a striking affair.

Which might be gay too. Rashad is a counterstriker and Phil doesn't strike much.

[Ludo]

Phil strikes when he doesn't know what else to do. His technique is god awful though. I think Rashad stuffs Phil early and forces him to stand before blowing his ass out of the water.

[zY|]

You really think it's going to be that easy?

[Ludo]

You really think it's going to be that easy?

I didn't mean blow him out as in quick, I think eventually he's going to blast the shit out of him because Phil leaves himself open way too much with those funky ass kicks where he sways and leaves himself leaning sideways and shit.

[SPX]

What do ya'll think would happen if Rashad took Davis down and literally fucked him in the ass right in the middle of the cage?

I mean, that would be some pretty wild shit. . .

[Vandelay]

What do ya'll think would happen if Rashad took Davis down and literally fucked him in the ass right in the middle of the cage?

I mean, that would be some pretty wild shit. . .

Keep your fantasies to yourself please

[SPX]

I do admit that I'd like to see it.

[poopoo333]

What do ya'll think would happen if Rashad took Davis down and literally fucked him in the ass right in the middle of the cage?

I mean, that would be some pretty wild shit. . .

LOL HAHA omg

I think it would turn into a 3some with the ref to be honest. What do you think would happen?

[zY|]

I didn't mean blow him out as in quick, I think eventually he's going to blast the shit out of him because Phil leaves himself open way too much with those funky ass kicks where he sways and leaves himself leaning sideways and shit.

For what it's worth, according to Fightmetric, Phil Davis absorbs the least amount of strikes of any fighter in ufc history. His striking might not be the greatest, but he's deceptively good at not being hit.

[SPX]

LOL HAHA omg

I think it would turn into a 3some with the ref to be honest. What do you think would happen?

The scene I have in my head is incredibly comedic.

Rashad gets Phil Davis down in a compromising position that Davis can't get out of. He then pulls Davis's tights down, pulls his own dick out, and shoves it into Davis's ass. Davis can't believe what's happening, and screams in both pain and surprise while Rashad goes to work.

The referee freezes. Then looks around. He doesn't know what the fuck to do.

Rogan and Goldie try to hold it together but ultimately end up speechless.

And Dana White stares on in disbelief, which ends up becoming a GIF that is used all across Internet forums to express disbelief or incredulity at something that's been said.

[zY|]

The scene I have in my head is incredibly comedic.

Rashad gets Phil Davis down in a compromising position that Davis can't get out of. He then pulls Davis's tights down, pulls his own dick out, and shoves it into Davis's ass. Davis can't believe what's happening, and screams in both pain and surprise while Rashad goes to work.

The referee freezes. Then looks around. He doesn't know what the fuck to do.

Rogan and Goldie try to hold it together but ultimately end up speechless.

And Dana White stares on in disbelief, which ends up becoming a GIF that is used all across Internet forums to express disbelief or incredulity at something that's been said.

I think this boy's cheese done slid off his cracker...

[SPX]

You have to admit it would be something that you would never forget.

[Ludo]

This is the sick fuck who wants 5 other dudes to live in a house with him for 3 months? Count Me out!

[SPX]

You were never invited anyway.

[Ludo]

Reported.

[SPX]

Reported.


::crying::

[zY|]

You have to admit it would be something that you would never forget.

I imagine it would look something like this. Should tide you over anyway.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/zygote7/MMA/242v77qjpg-1.gif

[Ludo]

I imagine it would look something like this. Should tide you over anyway.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c171/zygote7/MMA/242v77qjpg-1.gif

Thats hilarious.

[MMA_scientist]

what the fuck happened happened here.

::thumbdown::

[poopoo333]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2/boxer4life2k5/61vx3rq.gif

[Luke]

what the fuck happened happened here.

::thumbdown::

For real, I cant wait for an MMA event to get here cause the gayness level here has been at a nuclear level lately

[MMA_scientist]

For real, I cant wait for an MMA event to get here cause the gayness level here has been at a nuclear level lately

Anymore if there is a week without mma, this place goes straight down the shitter (or up the shitter, however you want to look at it).

[SPX]

I actually think it's a testament to our awesomeness that we're able to keep up this kind of pace even in the face of such a lack of MMA.

[Thewisemann]

I'm out. No house for me.

[SPX]

What the fuck?

[Luke]

I'm out. No house for me.

Explain

[zY|]

Explain

He's saying that SPX is way too goddamn gay to share a house with.

[Luke]

He's saying that SPX is way too goddamn gay to share a house with.


Lol ok, I understand now. I thought he was talking about something else

[Thewisemann]

He's saying that SPX is way too goddamn gay to share a house with.

Yup

[SPX]

Don't worry. I'll be gentle.

[MMA_scientist]

Henricks/Pierce added.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Hendricks-Pierce-Targeted-for-UFC-133-in-Philadelphia-31954

[Thewisemann]

Thats a good match.

[zY|]

Henricks/Pierce added.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Hendricks-Pierce-Targeted-for-UFC-133-in-Philadelphia-31954

Looks like the future champ is about to pick up another loss.

[Mr. IWS]

Looks like the future champ is about to pick up another loss.

Ohsnap.gif

[poopoo333]

I guess Aldo/Mendes might be on this card

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/390.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[poopoo333]

I wanna bet Nog but not sure where his line will go

[Luke]

I wanna bet Nog but not sure where his line will go


I guessed it would be closer to -200 so my guess would be up ,but I am dumb so............

[Mr. IWS]

Ill be on Vitor there. I must have missed it. I had no Idea Ace was fighting Nog.

[SPX]

I think Belfort beats Akiyama, but that line is pretty high.

[SPX]

Any thoughts on the Aldo/Mendes line? PP? You said you think Mendes will win, so are you not all over him at that price?

[poopoo333]

I think Belfort beats Akiyama, but that line is pretty high.

Nate's line was higher. Do you think he has a better shot than vitor to beat akiyama? Just asking because you had a big bet on nate

[poopoo333]

Any thoughts on the Aldo/Mendes line? PP? You said you think Mendes will win, so are you not all over him at that price?

I am waiting. I hope the line gets to like +275

[SPX]

Nate's line was higher. Do you think he has a better shot than vitor to beat akiyama? Just asking because you had a big bet on nate

I thought Nate was a better striker and also had the wrestling to counteract Akiyama's judo.

Belfort is obviously a better striker--and I think he might actually knock Sexy out--but I have questions about his wrestling.

[poopoo333]

3u to win 2u on lil nog

[edman5555]

Akiyama always looks like shit. If he actually tried, he would be good.

[poopoo333]

Akiyama always looks like shit.

He is actually the sexiest man alive.

[SPX]

Akiyama always looks like shit. If he actually tried, he would be good.

He looked pretty good against Belcher. I have a high opinion of Belcher, so the fact that he was able to win, even if it was by a razor thin margin, is impressive to me.

And I think he tries his ass off, but he's just not quite on the level of the UFC's top middleweights, and that's pretty much all they've been giving him.

[edman5555]

No I don't think he tries that hard. He always gasses. That happens because he isn't in shape. He isn't in shape because he isn't training. He isn't training because he doesn't give a shit. I will give you a great example. When he fought Bisping he went to GJ camp for one month to train. A reporter asked Rashad Evans for his prediction in his teammate Sexy's fight. Rashad picked Bisping. The only conceivable reason is that Rashad knew Sexy wasn't respecting the training camp. Even Greg Jackson was quoted as saying Sexy wasn't in great shape. He may be in decent shape for Vitor, who knows. I sure as hell would not bet on it though. Save your money for something better. Sexy's most reasonable path to victory is by decision. If he makes it to that third round and his hands are by his side, Vitor is going to punch his head into the stadium.

[poopoo333]

So how much are you gonna bet on belfort?

[edman5555]

1 million dollars

[SPX]

No I don't think he tries that hard. He always gasses. That happens because he isn't in shape. He isn't in shape because he isn't training. He isn't training because he doesn't give a shit. I will give you a great example. When he fought Bisping he went to GJ camp for one month to train. A reporter asked Rashad Evans for his prediction in his teammate Sexy's fight. Rashad picked Bisping. The only conceivable reason is that Rashad knew Sexy wasn't respecting the training camp. Even Greg Jackson was quoted as saying Sexy wasn't in great shape. He may be in decent shape for Vitor, who knows. I sure as hell would not bet on it though. Save your money for something better. Sexy's most reasonable path to victory is by decision. If he makes it to that third round and his hands are by his side, Vitor is going to punch his head into the stadium.

Obviously sexy could be in better shape. How much better is a question mark. I think that some people's bodies and cardiovascular systems just won't be able to perform like Sean Sherk's regardless of their training camp. With that said, if Rashad and Jackson made comments that Sexy wasn't taking his training seriously then I really have no reason to doubt it.

I just think that anyone who has the ability to go as far as he did in Judo and as he has in MMA has to have a high degree of dedication.

[Thewisemann]

I like the odds on Nog and Rashaf I will wait on Aldo, I think his line will get bettet.

[MMA_scientist]

Damn, I love Mendes @ +250

I thought it would be much lower than that.

[edman5555]

What is Mendes by decision?

[edman5555]

Obviously sexy could be in better shape. How much better is a question mark. I think that some people's bodies and cardiovascular systems just won't be able to perform like Sean Sherk's regardless of their training camp. With that said, if Rashad and Jackson made comments that Sexy wasn't taking his training seriously then I really have no reason to doubt it.

I just think that anyone who has the ability to go as far as he did in Judo and as he has in MMA has to have a high degree of dedication.

Maybe he ha fallen off the horse.

[Thewisemann]

I really think Aldo is gonna fuck Mendes up.

[Mr. IWS]

Obviously sexy could be in better shape. How much better is a question mark. I think that some people's bodies and cardiovascular systems just won't be able to perform like Sean Sherk's regardless of their training camp. With that said, if Rashad and Jackson made comments that Sexy wasn't taking his training seriously then I really have no reason to doubt it.

I just think that anyone who has the ability to go as far as he did in Judo and as he has in MMA has to have a high degree of dedication.

If memory serves me correct, Sexy looked like shit his last couple fights in Japan, before he even came to the UFC.

[SPX]

That could very well be the case. I had only seen a few random fights here and there before he came over. I certainly didn't follow his career or anything.

[Thewisemann]

Belfort should destroy him, not sure if i want to pay that price though

[edman5555]

Belforts grappling record is now posted on his wiki page. Pretty impressive, wins over Ricco Rodriguez and Ricardo Almeida.

[poopoo333]

Featherweights Mike Brown vs. Nam Phan slotted for UFC 133 in Philly (http://mmajunkie.com/news/23568/featherweights-mike-brown-vs-nam-phan-slotted-for-ufc-133-in-philly.mma)

[SPX]

Do or Die for Brown, but he should win that one.

Sucks for Phan. First he gets fucked by the judges and then he doesn't get his promised rematch. Instead he gets ex-champ and Urijah Faber killer Mike Brown.

[edman5555]

Phan will have a tough time with MTB. We might get a good line on MTB though.

[poopoo333]

Alexander Gustafsson vs. Vladimir Matyushenko in the works for UFC 133 in August (http://mmajunkie.com/news/23596/alexander-gustafsson-vs-vladimir-matyushenko-in-the-works-for-ufc-133-in-august.mma)

[sbjj]

Alexander Gustafsson vs. Vladimir Matyushenko in the works for UFC 133 in August (http://mmajunkie.com/news/23596/alexander-gustafsson-vs-vladimir-matyushenko-in-the-works-for-ufc-133-in-august.mma)

Pleas MMA gods. Give me a good line on Alexander.

[sbjj]

Damn, I love Mendes @ +250

I thought it would be much lower than that.

100% agree. i will bet Mendes(pretty heavy), if I can get him in the +250 or higher range.

[poopoo333]

Pleas MMA gods. Give me a good line on Alexander.

Oh man I hope so.

[sbjj]

Oh man I hope so.

I think we might get it. Vlad has actually looked pretty good in his last couple of outings.

[poopoo333]

Yeah but Gustaffson @-220 or better I would probably lay 5u down for sure. I think it's a great match up.

[Thewisemann]

Aldo is gonna fuck Mendes up.

[SPX]

Yeah but Gustaffson @-220 or better I would probably lay 5u down for sure. I think it's a great match up.

I would consider that line to be extraordinarily fucking high.

[sbjj]

I was thinking Alexander might be close to even.

[SPX]

Me too. Vlad is no joke. In 31 fights he has 5 losses . . . 5 . . . and they're not even all bunched together in his recent UFC fights.

Gustaffson has looked good but his best win is Diabate in a fight that was very stylistically favorable for him.

I would probably take Vlad as any kind of a dog.

[Thewisemann]

I think Matyushenko will be slightly favored.

[sbjj]

I agree SPX. But IMO Gus is a true prospect. His striking really is pretty damn good, and his wrestling really seems to be getting better. Personally, I would not bet him past about -150 or so.

[edman5555]

gustaffson-vladdy is tough to call IMO. There is nothing that can happen in that fight that would suprise me.

[poopoo333]

I believe Gustafsson will be able to outstrike Vladdy, and will be able to avoid any significant top control by Vladdy as well. Gustafsson was stuffing Phil Davis pretty well until he finally did get taken down. IIRC, Gustafsson made a ridiculous mental error against Phil Davis and actually tried to take Davis down and ended up on his back before getting subbed. Now Gustafsson is training with Phil Davis and his crew, so I think Gustafsson's wrestling/grappling will be improving at a steady rate.

[poopoo333]

Bantamweights Ivan Menjivar vs. Nick Pace slated for UFC 133 (http://mmajunkie.com/news/23666/bantamweights-ivan-menjivar-vs-nick-pace-slated-for-ufc-133.mma)

[poopoo333]

Rory MacDonald vs. Mike Pyle added to UFC 133 in Philadelphia (http://mmajunkie.com/news/23698/rory-macdonald-vs-mike-pyle-added-to-ufc-133-in-philadelphia.mma)

[SPX]

My initial feeling is that MacDonald should win, but Pyle has been on something of a war path lately so I dunno. We may see a repeat of the Hathaway fight, where he takes a good prospect and just destroys him.

[poopoo333]

Report: Jose Aldo Injured, Out of UFC 133 Bout With Chad Mendes (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/5/23/2186484/jose-aldo-injured-out-of-ufc-133-bout-with-chad-mendes)

[Luke]

Jesus fuck ..........

[poopoo333]

The rapture is killing off all the champs and #1 contenders.

[poopoo333]

Chad Mendes meets Rani Yahya at UFC 133 in Philadelphia (http://mmajunkie.com/news/23714/chad-mendes-meets-rani-yahya-at-ufc-133-in-philadelphia.mma)

[SPX]

I'd say Mendes takes it easily, but that's what I said about Brown, so. . .

[MMA_scientist]

Mendes will probably try to keep it standing. Though Mizugaki stifled Yahya on the ground for the most part.

[poopoo333]

Yahya will not be able to do what he did to Brown to Mendes.

[SPX]

Well that's my point. I don't think so either, but I thought Brown would easily overpower him as well.

[poopoo333]

"It's unconscionable to pay a title contender like Mendes $19,000 to fight. Not only does it necessitate tough decisions like this, it also creates an unbalanced playing field. With that kind of money backing him, Mendes can barely afford a world class training camp and can forget about maintaining a reasonable standard of living. Chad Mendes, the top contender to the featherweight crown, is giving up on a chance to win the championship of the world - likely because of money issues."

-Jonathan Snowden

[SPX]

That is pretty retarded. These guys aren't in the WEC anymore . . . now they're in the UFC.

If the reason behind this is that they're still working off their old contracts, I suppose I can go with it, but as soon as those contracts are up the UFC should give all these guys a significant bump in pay. Really though the UFC should do the right thing and write up new, UFC level contracts for everyone.

[MMA_scientist]

lol. Chad "no money" Mendes.

[Mr. IWS]

"It's unconscionable to pay a title contender like Mendes $19,000 to fight. Not only does it necessitate tough decisions like this, it also creates an unbalanced playing field. With that kind of money backing him, Mendes can barely afford a world class training camp and can forget about maintaining a reasonable standard of living. Chad Mendes, the top contender to the featherweight crown, is giving up on a chance to win the championship of the world - likely because of money issues."

-Jonathan Snowden

Geez, thats fuckin brutal.

When he comes to Philly, I can have him tear down my daughters swingset/tree house/monkey bars in my yard and get rid of it.

Ill give him like 200 bucks and have my wife cook him dinner.

[poopoo333]

Are you going to go to UFC 133?

[Mr. IWS]

Are you going to go to UFC 133?

My boss said he is getting tickets for some customers, and If he does, he will get me 2. If not, I wont be going.

[poopoo333]

I wish the UFC would come to FL. The only time they have recently was in 2009. I was actually in the town the event was being held at, in a hotel 5 minutes away from the venue. I had a meet the same day, that's why I didn't go.


I am going to look into going to next next Bellator event though, it's about 3 hours away.

[Luke]

Geez, thats fuckin brutal.

When he comes to Philly, I can have him tear down my daughters swingset/tree house/monkey bars in my yard and get rid of it.

Ill give him like 200 bucks and have my wife cook him dinner.


::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::

[Mr. IWS]

I wish the UFC would come to FL. The only time they have recently was in 2009. I was actually in the town the event was being held at, in a hotel 5 minutes away from the venue. I had a meet the same day, that's why I didn't go.


I am going to look into going to next next Bellator event though, it's about 3 hours away.


I used to want to go real bad, but Now, I kinda like watching it at home with my homies and my girl, and checking in with what you guys are doing.

Sometimes, some crazy shit happens, and Im like "those niggas are going crazy on IWS right now" (see Werdum over Fedor)

[edman5555]

Yes I had werdum

[Thewisemann]

I was on Werdum, but I thought he would lose

[edman5555]

Same here I actually thought he would only win by dec but I had 4u on him and I got lucky

[Thewisemann]

Yahya +425 is worth .25u or so, maybe .5u

[Luke]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/3927.png

[SPX]

Yahya +425 is worth .25u or so, maybe .5u

I agree. Just dropped .25u on him.

Mendes at -625 is just crazy. Who's he fighting, zY?

[Luke]

Mendes at -625 is just crazy. Who's he fighting, zY?


::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::


http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t233/luke1899/000bga5b.gif

[MMA_scientist]

Agree. I don't like to bet on dogs I think are going to lose... but that line is retarded. Yahya has no way to get the fight to the floor and he is probably going to get beat, but I am going to bet Yahya here just to spite that line.

[poopoo333]

Scientist, what do you think about the Hendricks/Pierce line?

[MMA_scientist]

Scientist, what do you think about the Hendricks/Pierce line?

I will be on Hendricks. He only narrowly lost to Story, and he has been training with Story. I think we will see more aggression from him. I think Hendricks can beat any man at WW except GSP.

[poopoo333]

Thiago Alves would beat Hendricks easy

[poopoo333]

Hendricks @ even money

[SPX]

And an arb, if anyone wants it. . .

[poopoo333]

UFC 133 Fight Card: Riki Fukuda Injured, Out of Event (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/6/20/2233063/ufc-133-fight-card-riki-fukuda-injured-out-of-event)


Broken knee..ouch.

[SPX]

Damn, dude gets screwed out of the decision against Ring and now this. It sucks to be Riki Fukuda.

[poopoo333]

Replacement Costantinos Phillippou meets Rafael "Sapo" Natal at UFC 133 (http://mmajunkie.com/news/24063/replacement-costantinos-phillippou-meets-rafael-sapo-natal-at-ufc-133.mma)

[Thewisemann]

Took Yahya @+460, to win .5u

[poopoo333]

Johny Hendricks Talks UFC 133 Fight With Mike Pierce, Rematch With Rick Story (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/6/22/2237942/johny-hendricks-talks-ufc-133-fight-with-mike-pierce-rematch-with)

[poopoo333]

So what's our magic prop parlay gonna be for this card?

[Ludo]

Not Phan/Davis/Franklin/Akiyama/Mendes by submission Looks decent depending on the lines.

[poopoo333]

How do you guys seeing Akiyama/Belfort playing out? A lot of people seem to think Akiyama is going to get destroyed but I kind of think he has a good chance of pulling it off.

[Ludo]

I don't know how Akiyama will do. It's entirely possible he can draw things out a little with his throws but it's likely he ends up knocked out because his striking defense isn't great, he has relied on his chin most of the time and thats not a sound strategy against Belfort.

[SPX]

I think Akiyama gets KOd. I have already put money on Belfort.

[Thewisemann]

I'm gonna take Belfort by TKO/KO or nothing

[Thewisemann]

1.25u on Evans

[Svino]

I love Vitor, and I would be pretty confident that an "on-point" Vitor would kick Akiyamas' ass. He's beaten better guys than Akiyama, and never lost to anyone worse.

But the problem with Vitor now is that we've seen him in the cage for all of about 8 minutes in the last three years, and it comes at a time when he may be reaching a turning point in terms of both "fight age" and "chronological age".

[poopoo333]

I think Belfort/Akiyama is going to be a competitive fight. Belfort doesn't seem to be the type of striker that comes forward and throws flurries anymore, he looked like he wanted to counter in the Franklin fight and he didn't really do anything in the Silva fight except get his head kicked off into the audience. I just think Belfort @-290 or whatever he is is pretty nuts.

[SPX]

I'm wondering about Vitor's cardio. What happens if it goes into the second or third round?

But Akiyama's cardio is absolutely horrible, so even if Vitor's is equally sucky then he should still be the superior fighter.

[poopoo333]

If they are both tired, Akiyama probably has the edge. Even when he is exhausted, he always keeps fighting and doesn't stop. I'm not sure if Vitor will do that. I think a lot of people are expecting this to be a wild striking match, but I have a feeling Akiyama is going to try and bring Vitor down. He was successful against Leben until the triangle by doing that, and IIRC he brought Belcher down as well. Akiyama fought like an idiot in the Bisping fight.

[poopoo333]

I also wonder how Vitor is going to come back after being KTFO for the first time in his career.

[SPX]

Y'all are starting to get my ass nervous. I've already dropped like 3u on Vitor.

[Svino]

Belfort doesn't seem to be the type of striker that comes forward and throws flurries anymore, he looked like he wanted to counter in the Franklin fight

I agree, and I think he's a better fighter for it. He's evolved into a serious counter-striker. Not a good enough to stand in front of Anderson Silva, but plenty good enough to outbox Akiyama in a standup fight, IMO. Takedown defense has always been his weakness though. If Akiyama can put him on his back, it will be trouble.

[Vandelay]

Akiyama has faber disease in that he doesn't always attempt to use his judo. He enjoys slugging haymakers. He did it for long periods of time in his last 3 fights and did not attempt to grapple often. The leben fight was more leben being wreckless than anything else, and belfort is pretty patient.

[SPX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNw_ya7wkdM

[Vandelay]

negged for posting a highlight vid with a shitty song

[SPX]

negged for posting a highlight vid with a shitty song

Actually, that song is cool.

This might actually be a better vid, though.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdk_OxYmM-E&NR=1

[AC88]

What chances are you giving Franklin over Rogerio? I think Rogerio is a better striker. Rogerio's takedown defense looked stellar against Phil Davis and he's a southpaw, which according to Franklin - is his weakness. Franklin can't do anything to Rogerio on the ground....To be honest I think this is a terrible matchup for Franklin and am going to be putting down money on Rogerio for sure.

[poopoo333]

I really like lil nog in this fight. I might bet more on him.

[MMA_scientist]

My fear is that Franklin is actually a better striker than Nog. His hands have not looked that good lately. I don't like him at the current line personally, but I do think he will win a close fight. I will probably look hard at the decision prop on this one.

[edman5555]

I think Little nog has good hands..he medaled in the pan american games. He was also the super heavyweight champion in south america.

[edman5555]

if you watch the shogun/lil nog fight video from pride he actually outstrikes shogun pretty clearly IIRC. Shogun only wins because he keeps taking nog down. I think his wrestling weakness is pretty much gone now.

[poopoo333]

I will probably add more on Nog and if the line is right I will hedge with Franklin by decision.

[MMA_scientist]

if you watch the shogun/lil nog fight video from pride he actually outstrikes shogun pretty clearly IIRC. Shogun only wins because he keeps taking nog down. I think his wrestling weakness is pretty much gone now.

Yeah, he has credential and history. But recently, he really went about even, maybe getting slightly better of the exchanges with 3 wrestlers with limited striking. Maybe that was because he was worried about getting taken down... but his hands have not looked that good since KOing Cane.

[flyinggogoplata]

Didn't Franklin get rocked in round 2 against Forrest?

[poopoo333]

Didn't Franklin get rocked in round 2 against Forrest?

Yeah just watched it. It was nothing serious though but Forrest was landing a lot of left hands flush.

[poopoo333]

I just watched Griffin/Franklin again and I think Franklin might indeed be mentally retarded. He was surprised at the decision of him losing.

[flyinggogoplata]

I think lil nog is a better pretty much everywhere. This line has some good value at -150

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/3828.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

Opened @-120/-120. Sakara jumped all the way to -170.

[poopoo333]

Props are up on 5 dimes

[flyinggogoplata]

davis by decision at +209 looks good

[edman5555]

rashad has a lot more experience and better striking...I think he is going to win this to be honest.

[poopoo333]

davis by decision at +209 looks good

I have a bet on Davis @+150 and a bet on Davis by decision @+216. Also ended up taking Sexyama by decision @+540

[flyinggogoplata]

sexyama is going to gas how is he going to win a decision?

[flyinggogoplata]

no way im going to bet on evans with all that ring rust.

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/4012.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

Opened @-140 MacDonald/+100 Pyle


5u on MacDonald @-140

[flyinggogoplata]

Pyle is sneaky good but thats a great line you got Rory.

[edman5555]

what does everyone think of Pierce/Hendricks? Close one IMO. Pierce took a round off Fitch. Looking back though, Fitch has always had trouble with any kind of good wrestler.. Diego almost beat him. George beat him. Pierce got a round....Hendricks has the better wrestling pedigree and more tko/ko's.

Thoughts on Jorge Rivera/Sakara?

[poopoo333]

what does everyone think of Pierce/Hendricks? Close one IMO. Pierce took a round off Fitch. Looking back though, Fitch has always had trouble with any kind of good wrestler.. Diego almost beat him. George beat him. Pierce got a round....Hendricks has the better wrestling pedigree and more tko/ko's.

Thoughts on Jorge Rivera/Sakara?

Close fight, I think Hendricks should be better on the feet and get the best of the exchanges against the fence. Also think Hendricks will be the better wrestler. I got 1u on Hendricks @even money.

Rivera/Sakara = fight between two guys that aren't that good. Rivera has the power edge and I think Sakara has the overall striking edge. I think Rivera's best shot is if he gets in close and lands some heavy shots, otherwise I think Sakara will pick him apart. I hope Rivera wins though.

[poopoo333]

Also think Sakara might win if he comes to grapple. He is a BJJ black belt. Sakara gets KOd by brawlers like Leben, Houston Alexander, and Drew McFedries. This is a fight I am staying away from unless Rivera hits something ridiculous like +200

[edman5555]

yeah i agree. I'll take him at +200 but i doubt he hit that.

[poopoo333]

I think I already said this, but I think Gustafsson is going to beat Vladdy. What are everybody's thoughts on this fight?

[mike]

i like Sakara in this fight. probably gonna bet 1u on him. He's the better striker and Rivera seems to slow down after a round. He's like 38 yr old. The thing that stop me from betting more is Rivera has a powerful right hand and Sakara has a weakkk chin/heart. If Rivera catches him, he might put him away. this fight probably wont go past 2 1/2 rounds.

[edman5555]

Rivera was doing ok against Bisping for a while. The illegal knee didn't help.

[poopoo333]

MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)


Phil Davis vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Vitor Belfort
Jorge Rivera vs. Alessio Sakara
Rory MacDonald vs. Mike Pyle

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)


Alexander Gustafsson vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Chad Mendes vs. Rani Yahya

PRELIMINARY CARD

Brian Ebersole vs. Dennis Hallman
Ivan Menjivar vs. Nick Pace
Johny Hendricks vs. Mike Pierce
Mike Brown vs. Nam Phan
Rafael "Sapo" Natal vs. Costantinos Phillippou


Hardest fight out of those to call for me is Menjivar/Pace since I haven't seen either guy except for Menjivar's ass raping of Valencia

[poopoo333]

Rivera was doing ok against Bisping for a while. The illegal knee didn't help.

I don't think so...he was getting completely outclassed

[poopoo333]

My "* pick" is Rory MacDonald but it's close between him and Gustafsson

[edman5555]

you think nam phan will beat mtb???

[poopoo333]

It's more of a pick against Brown. Besides the Urijah Faber fights, he hasn't done too great. Faber almost beat him with a broken hand in their 2nd fight. And since the Faber fight he has lost 4 of his last 6 and has only beaten guys that couldn't cut it in the WEC. He is coming off of consecutive losses and surgery, and from interviews after the Yaha fight, he doesn't seem like he is in the best state of mind for fighting anymore. That was even an issue that was brought up after he got KTFO by Gamburyan

[mike]

http://livefightclub.com/demetrious-johnson-vs-nick-pace
there's Nick Pace's fight with Mighty Mouse if u're want to see.

[poopoo333]

^^wow thanks. I was actually looking for that fight awhile back.

[edman5555]

i disagree with you on mtb. He has been competitive outside his knockout losses to aldo and gamburyan. Mostly it is the fact that Nam Phan hasn't really impressed me. I don't know if he can stuff MTB's takedowns.

[Ludo]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/07/12/sources-injury-forces-phil-davis-out-of-ufc-133-main-event/


Phil Davis has been forced to withdraw from his UFC 133 main event fight against Rashad Evans due to a knee injury, MMA Fighting has learned from sources. No word just yet on who, if anyone, Evans will now fight on the Aug. 6 card in Philadelphia.

According to sources, the UFC is expected to announce Davis' injury and the new UFC 133 main event in the coming hours.

UFC 133 takes place at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia.

[Luke]

^^^^must have realized he was going to lose. Someone get Bones Jones on the phone

[poopoo333]

NO NO NO! FUCK. Phil Davis was going to win that fight.

[Ludo]

Nobody will know the difference!

[poopoo333]

My prediction: Machida or Tito

[Luke]

My prediction: Machida or Tito

Tito Ortiz? Or is there some other Tito in the UFC?

[poopoo333]

Yeah Tito Ortiz. I don't see who else would step in against Evans unless they made Franklin or Lil Nog fight Rashad and gave one of them a new opponent.

[edman5555]

I wouldnt be suprised to see Tito fight him. They fought to a draw last time and he should be available. He didn't get hurt in his last fight. That is a tough one to call too..

[Thewisemann]

Tito please, that rematch shoulda happened long ago.

[poopoo333]

Looks like it's gonna be Machida

[poopoo333]

http://i.cr3ation.co.uk/dl/s1/gif/lyotoslow.gif