UFN 25: Battle on the Bayou 9/17

[poopoo333]

Alan Belcher vs. Jason MacDonald, Court McGee vs. Dongi Yang Set for UFC Fight Night: Battle on the Bayou | MMAWeekly.com (http://sherdognet.craveonline.com/index.php#http://mmaweekly.com/alan-belcher-vs-jason-macdonald-court-mcgee-vs-dongi-yang-set-for-ufc-fight-night-battle-on-the-bayou)

[SPX]

As long as there are no lasting effects from his injury/layoff, I think Belcher should take that for sure.

[Thewisemann]

Yeah, easy fight for Belcher.

[zY|]

New Orleans, eh?

[SPX]

They're starting to rehash event names. . .

http://www.sherdog.com/events/UFC-16-Battle-in-the-Bayou-25

[zY|]

It wasn't clever the first time, either.

[Luke]

sorry but that name is just ...........

[poopoo333]

Jake Ellenberger vs. Jake Shields Three Rounder to Headline UFN 25 (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/6/28/2249342/ufc-jake-ellenberger-vs-jake-shields-three-rounder-to-headline-ufn-25)



So much for 5 round main events. Bullshit

[SPX]

Interesting.

Dana lied again.

[flyinggogoplata]

dana white is a shitty business man, the only reason the ufc is still around is because of Lorenzo, I honestly believe dana is holding the sport back.

[poopoo333]

I wish I was a shitty enough business man to have these:

http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/danascars.jpg

[SPX]

More than you can afford, Pal. Ferrari.

[flyinggogoplata]

I wish I was a shitty enough business man to have these:

http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/danascars.jpg

who cares you do know there are eastern European hackers rolling around in lambos because of all the credit cards they have skimmed. Doesn't make them good business men.

[poopoo333]

More than you can afford, Pal. Ferrari.

X, how are we going to get rich so we can get Ferraris?

[flyinggogoplata]

BOLzSec credit card hacking seems like a good way.

[SPX]

X, how are we going to get rich so we can get Ferraris?

We're going to keep plugging away at this betting shit until we're like Billy Walters.

[poopoo333]

We're going to keep plugging away at this betting shit until we're like Billy Walters.

We just need to pick a job from this list:

http://www.careerinfonet.org/oview5.asp?printer=&next=oview5&level=overall&optstatus=110000000&id=&nodeid=7&soccode=&stfips=00&jobfam=&group=1&showall=no

[SPX]

Seems odd that the highest on the list only pays $166K.

All those jobs fucking suck, too.

[zY|]

More than you can afford, Pal. Ferrari.

Smoke him.

[poopoo333]

Seems odd that the highest on the list only pays $166K.

All those jobs fucking suck, too.

I basically just realized today I need to figure out what I want to actually major in soon or I will just keep wasting my time. And those jobs all do fucking suck. If I were a real Asian I'd be doing some shit with math and science...but I don't even like math and science.

[SPX]

Choose wisely. That's my best advice. Even then you'll probably fuck it up.

I'm turning 30 this year and still not positive what it is I want to do.

[edman5555]

You can try picking things up and putting them down. You do that now anyways.

[poopoo333]

The UFC announced another fight booking tonight, this one for the UFC Battle on the Bayou card in New Orleans in September. Mackens Semerzier will meet Mike Lullo in a featherweight bout.

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[SPX]

lfkgjfsdghjm

That's true.

[mike]

What do you guys think of Shields-Ellenberger? ;

[AC88]

I'm gona drop so much money on Belcher if his line is good it's not even funny.

[Ludo]

Him being out so long and the eye thing almost ending his career in the first place has Me wary to put anything on that fight at all.

[SPX]

I agree. Old Belcher should definitely win. But there are a lot of question marks surrounding this fight.

[Luke]

What do you guys think of Shields-Ellenberger? ;

Its according to how many rounds the fight is , heard its 3 rds and I've heard 5

[poopoo333]

Its according to how many rounds the fight is , heard its 3 rds and I've heard 5


Despite it's headliner status, MMAjunkie.com has learned from sources close to the fighters that the contest will likely not be the UFC's historic first five-round, non-title affair and will instead be booked as a three-round contest.


I think Shields dominates on the mat. Ellenberger's way to win imo is to stop Shields in round 1, but if Hendo couldn't do it I doubt Ellenberger will.

[poopoo333]

Evan Dunham vs. Shamar Bailey set for UFC Fight Night 25 (http://mmajunkie.com/news/24441/evan-dunham-vs-shamar-bailey-set-for-ufc-fight-night-25.mma)

[Vandelay]

lol bailey doesn't deserve that match

[zY|]

Who the fuck is Shamar Bailey?

[SPX]

That's what I was wondering. . .

[Luke]

^^^^Are you two simple? He's from TUF ........I didnt even watch that shit and know that just from his one fight on the finale

[SPX]

I knew I had heard the name, but I don't ever remember seeing him fight.

[Luke]

I knew I had heard the name, but I don't ever remember seeing him fight.


I dont think I "saw him fight" I just knew he was on the card .

[Thewisemann]

He is a wrestler I believe

[SPX]

Apparently he also has losses to Roger Bowling and Justin Wilcox, and holds a win over Spiritwolf.

[poopoo333]

He is a powerful wrestler that is a typical top control guy. He was on the facebook stream on TUF Finale....scientist and I had bets on him

[SPX]

....scientist and I had bets on him

You just had to throw that in there, didn't you?

[poopoo333]

Well mainly to point out we were familiar with him

[poopoo333]

Also I will probably bet Bailey if he is a decent underdog

[poopoo333]

DaMarques Johnson vs. Clay Harvison Verbally Agreed to for Battle on the Bayou (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/7/19/2283981/ufc-damarques-johnson-vs-clay-harvison-battle-on)

[poopoo333]

Vagner Rocha vs. Cody McKenzie added to UFC Fight Night 25 in New Orleans (http://mmajunkie.com/news/24485/vagner-rocha-vs-cody-mckenzie-added-to-ufc-fight-night-25-in-new-orleans.mma)

[Ludo]

Goodbye Cody.

[poopoo333]

5u on Shields @-165

[Ludo]

I would have dumped on Shields if I could have gotten him at -165 too.

[SPX]

I like the idea of people dumping on Shields and driving Ellenberger's line up. It will be Ellenberger or nothing for me.

[poopoo333]

I capped it @-230 for me so -165 was a steal.

[poopoo333]

I capped it @-230 for me so -165 was a steal.

[poopoo333]

I capped it @-230 for me so -165 was a steal.

[SPX]

PP=fail

[AC88]

To me it's Ellenberger or nothing so I hope everyone dumps on Shields.

[poopoo333]

I quit IWS until it loads faster and stops making me double/triple post.

[SPX]

How the fuck does it MAKE you do that shit? No one else seems to have that problem.

Do you just get impatient and keep clicking the Reply button?

[flyinggogoplata]

godaddy hosting really sucks. It's like the database server is running windows 95 on a virtual machine with six hundred other forums.

[Ludo]

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/ludocain/doubleposting.gif

[Luke]

I capped it @-230 for me so -165 was a steal.

You capped it at the opening line..........

[Thewisemann]

Ill be on Shields dec

[flyinggogoplata]

You capped it at the opening line..........

BOL

[SPX]

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/ludocain/doubleposting.gif

I chuckled lightly.

[poopoo333]

You capped it at the opening line..........

Does that mean I am a genius?

[Luke]

You guys seem confident in Shields ,what you see ?

[poopoo333]

You guys seem confident in Shields ,what you see ?

Shields is just the better grappler. I don't get what Ellenberger will be able to do besides putting Shields away early with punches. If Shields doesn't go K1 Shields like he did against GSP and does what he he usually does (shoot and stick onto the opponent like glue), Ellenberger will slow down and give the 2nd and 3rd rounds away to Shields imo. Shields survived 2 H-bombs, I am sure he can survive some punches from Ellenberger if Ellenberger gets the chance.

[poopoo333]

I am editing this post because it was post 2 of a double post. WTF

[flyinggogoplata]

i honestly think Shields is a better fighter at 185. At 170 he just seems to suck.

[Luke]

i honestly think Shields is a better fighter at 185. At 170 he just seems to suck.

+1

Shields has no power in his TD's or anything for that matter at 170

[SPX]

I also agree that Shields has been woefully unimpressive in the UFC thus far. He needs to show me something before I'm willing to bet him.

If Ellenberger gets to +200 I'm taking him.

[mike]

Ellenberger line getting worse. I like Ellenberger too.

[poopoo333]

Shields got down to -155. Seems like lots of people like Ellenberger in this fight.

[Luke]

Shields got down to -155. Seems like lots of people like Ellenberger in this fight.

That also means -165 wasnt a steal........-155 was






























j/k

[poopoo333]

TJ Waldburger vs Daniel Roberts is on this card... I am really looking forward to this. Waldburger is awesome to watch. I think he has a good chance of beating Roberts, Roberts has the cardio of a 3 year old with asthma

[poopoo333]

http://i55.tinypic.com/119wc2g.jpg

[poopoo333]

Leaning towards: Yang, Brookins, McKenzie, Stone, Waldburger, and Peralta.

[poopoo333]

Does anybody see a fight they really like for a winner or prop? This card pretty much sucks major cawk

[Luke]

Does anybody see a fight they really like for a winner or prop? This card pretty much sucks major cawk

Just bet the opposite of what I like

[poopoo333]

Just bet the opposite of what I like

soo who do you like?

[Luke]

soo who do you like?

Holy shit....everyone is a TUF fighter. I know zero about these guys so I wouldnt even know where to start for an opinion

[poopoo333]

Best thing about TUF fighters...all the TUF fights and TUF finale fights are easy to find online @ http://www.ultimatefighter.com

[Luke]

Best thing about TUF fighters...all the TUF fights and TUF finale fights are easy to find online @ http://www.ultimatefighter.com

Give me a write up I'm really too lazy to watch them.

[zY|]

This card is awesome. So glad I'm going.

[Luke]

This card is awesome. So glad I'm going.


The trolls are thick in here tonight

[Vandelay]

poopoo u like brookins in this one? hes gonna be a huge dog. probably around plus 300

[poopoo333]

poopoo u like brookins in this one? hes gonna be a huge dog. probably around plus 300

I doubt that. But if he is +300 I will bet it for sure.

[zY|]

The trolls are thick in here tonight

Sarcasm is not trolling.

[MMA_scientist]

Jake Shields vs. Jake Ellenberger- I like Shields here, but that is based on the assumption that he goes back to "desperate for takedown" Shields. I really think that a lot of these grapplers are better when they only have the takedown and no other option. Maia is the same way, he was better when it was all takedowns all the time IMO. If Shields comes out and tries to K1 him, Ellenberger could easily win. Probably a no bet for me.

Alan Belcher vs. Jason MacDonald- Belcher is a better all around fighter, but just on principle I will be on JMac at the current line. Belcher has been out for a long time, he can't see, and he has been submitted by lesser grapplers before.

Evan Dunham vs. Shamar Bailey- I like Dunham, but Bailey is probably a better wrestler. He could not take Chris Cope down, he is probably not going to be able to take Dunham down. BUt his line will probably be stupid.

Dongi Yang vs. Court McGee- Don't know anything about Yang. McGee is not that good IMO though.

Erik Koch vs. Jonathan Brookins- Tough fight to call, Brookins standup is really bad. He has solid takedowns, but Koch has solid wrestling himself. Brookins has made some other wrestlers look like newbs, but I have to think Koch will win this.

Anthony Waldburger vs. Daniel Roberts- grappler/grappler matchup. Roberts probably has slightly better wrestling, but I have been burned on Roberts too many times. He is not as good as I thought he was. Toss up IMO.

Ken Stone vs. Donny Walker-

Cody McKenzie vs. Vagner Rocha- Rocha should win. McKenzie isn't UFC level IMO.

Matt Riddle vs. Lance Benoist- Haven't looked at Benoist yet.

Jorge Lopez vs. Justin Edwards- Edwards is the Randy Couture look alike that was on TUF. Need info on Lopez.

Seth Baczynski vs. Clay Harvison- Two C level guys battling it out. A) Who gives a shit; B) Who knows who will win. Probably Seth by being more well rounded.

Robert Peralta vs. Mike Lullo- I have no idea. Peralta is the guy that beat Takaya a while back, Lullo is the guy that drew Edson Barboza in his debut. Lullo seems to be a better grappler, and Peralta is a short notice replacement. I will go with Lullo.


This is a terrible undercard. Thoughts on the fights? Anything stand out? The two fights that stand out in terms of "seeing" the fight for me are Dunham/Bailey and Rocha/McKenzie.

[poopoo333]

I think it will depend on Yang's cardio and T3D, if that is OK then I think he has a legit shot.

The idea of Shamar Bailey getting a wrestling decision is in the back of my mind, but it probably won't happen and I think Dunham should win this fight. But personally I hate betting against top control guys.

I am hoping to get Waldburger as an underdog, he is very active on the mat and Daniel Roberts is a gasser.

McKenzie showed some OK stuff against Yves Edwards, and Rocha is a guy that seems to have poor TDs based on the Cerrone fight. It'll probably be close but I'd bet McKenzie at + odds for a small play. This is probably dumb, convince me otherwise.

Justin Edwards is a top control wrestler but he cost me in his last fight because he went under cardiac arrest in the middle of the fight.


Right now I just have 5u on Shields.

[MMA_scientist]

Mckenzie came up in competition bjj. He is decent all around grappler and he was getting his head snapped back repeatedly by Edwards in that fight. He had a brief moment in the second round on the mat, but Yves just made a big mistake. Rocha got Cerrone down several times, but could not keep him there. I think Cody will want to go to the ground. He is not going to get a superior position on Rocha most likely, but he could possibly lock up that choke if Rocha gets cocky. I think the odds that he does it are slim though and I think Rocha will beat him standing or on the mat. Rocha will probably submit him. I looked at Rocha before the Cerrone fight and I thought he had a good chance in that fight. He ended up getting shut out, but I think he has enough for Cody.

I am not saying McKenzie would be a bad bet at +odds. I am assuming that Rocha will only be a small favorite.

[edman5555]

Yeah Mckenzie's standup is very good but who knows what Rochas is like. Cerrone didn't let Rocha touch him. Grappler vs Grappler and Rocha is the better one. But like you guys I am hesitant to bet him because he is new and we haven't seen much of him. That one guy he lost to beside Cerrone is pretty good though. Brett Bergmark is his name. Anyways, I will probably bet Rocha if i can get him at +0dds. Which might happen..

Shields- Ellenberger. My original though was to bet shields huge here because I figure he can dominate Ellenberger on the ground. That is what I thought about Souza-Rockhold though, I turned out to be wrong there though. I read scores from Junkie and Sherdog. They gave it to Souza(all except for one guy at sherdog). Anyone watch the fight? I guess Rockhold is pretty damn good.

My basic reasoning for shields is that he is a better wrestler/grappler than Ellenberger. Ellenbergers main offense would be his powerful strikes. Shields took Hendos best and still kept moving so he should be able to take whatever ellenberger can dish. Shields has also outwrestled better guys at 185. I think his showing against Kampmann was affected by his cardio. I also think his cardio should be much better now. His dad died, I don't know what effect that will have. I also have the fear he will come out and try to strike. He did that in the GSP fight, I remember the reported asking him why and he basically said " I don't know". However beating Kampmann via wrestling while being completely gassed is no easy feat. Kampmann is good, he did beat a lot of guys at 185. He just couldn't handle Natey nate. At 170 he has only lost to Daley (whos weight is now listed as 176 on wiki) and shields. He basically beat Diego, Thiago, Volkmann and condit. That is pretty damn good. Diego couldn't even take kampann down. I will probably wait for a better line on Shields. Maybe reduced Juice.

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah Mckenzie's standup is very good but who knows what Rochas is like. Cerrone didn't let Rocha touch him. Grappler vs Grappler and Rocha is the better one. But like you guys I am hesitant to bet him because he is new and we haven't seen much of him. That one guy he lost to beside Cerrone is pretty good though. Brett Bergmark is his name. Anyways, I will probably bet Rocha if i can get him at +0dds. Which might happen..

I am horrible at guessing opening lines, but I would be surprised to see McKenzie as a favorite at any point.


Shields- Ellenberger. My original though was to bet shields huge here because I figure he can dominate Ellenberger on the ground. That is what I thought about Souza-Rockhold though, I turned out to be wrong there though. I read scores from Junkie and Sherdog. They gave it to Souza(all except for one guy at sherdog). Anyone watch the fight? I guess Rockhold is pretty damn good.

Rockhold won the last 3 rounds IMO. He is good, but really what happened is that Jacare gassed out badly in Round 2. I don't think he has the tools be UFC champ or anything, he is not that great at any 1 thing. He was doing a good job of anti-grappling Jacare, just fighting off the TDs and standing up when he did get taken down. He was winning the striking, but he got rocked himself several times. He got wobbled right off the bat. Like I said, good, well rounded guy, but Jacare will have a better career IMO. Jacare is a handful for any man for 3 rounds. He kind of sucks at 5 rounds though.



My basic reasoning for shields is that he is a better wrestler/grappler than Ellenberger. Ellenbergers main offense would be his powerful strikes. Shields took Hendos best and still kept moving so he should be able to take whatever ellenberger can dish. Shields has also outwrestled better guys at 185. I think his showing against Kampmann was affected by his cardio. I also think his cardio should be much better now. His dad died, I don't know what effect that will have. I also have the fear he will come out and try to strike. He did that in the GSP fight, I remember the reported asking him why and he basically said " I don't know". However beating Kampmann via wrestling while being completely gassed is no easy feat. Kampmann is good, he did beat a lot of guys at 185. He just couldn't handle Natey nate. At 170 he has only lost to Daley (whos weight is now listed as 176 on wiki) and shields. He basically beat Diego, Thiago, Volkmann and condit. That is pretty damn good. Diego couldn't even take kampann down. I will probably wait for a better line on Shields. Maybe reduced Juice.

I think the line is well set now. I would like Ellenberger at a little better dog odds. It is really hard to say how they will match up grappling. Striking, Ellenberger obviously has more offense. One big advantage to Shields is that he is fine if he gets taken down and even held there. If Shields gets Ellenberger down for any length of time, he is probably toast.

[edman5555]

Yeah I guess whoever posted that jacare is a gasser was right. Thank god I got cold feet. I was going to bet half my accounts. I was thinking about doing that with shields too. I still may place a 10u bet on him.

[Vandelay]

Jorge Lopez is Wand's star pupil. Came up with a wrestling background and seems to have a brawling style.

[Ludo]

Yeah I guess whoever posted that jacare is a gasser was right. Thank god I got cold feet. I was going to bet half my accounts. I was thinking about doing that with shields too. I still may place a 10u bet on him.

Sounds really risky considering Shields' father dying last week. Plus I have a bet on Ellenberger, but best of luck regardless of what you decide on.

[poopoo333]

Jorge Lopez is Wand's star pupil. Came up with a wrestling background and seems to have a brawling style.

Any vids on him?

[Vandelay]

half heartedly looked and found

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Xkm46t3j0

[poopoo333]

Daniel Roberts Injured, Mike Stumpf Steps In to Face T.J. Waldburger at UFN 25 (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/9/13/2422747/daniel-roberts-injured-mike-stumpf-steps-in-to-face-t-j-waldburger-at)

[poopoo333]

Still no lines for this card...books must think it's as shitty as we do

[poopoo333]

Still no lines for this card...books must think it's as shitty as we do


nvm


http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/406.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[poopoo333]

Vandelay, you lied...Brookins isn't +300

[Luke]

Dongi Yang is what I call my weiner

[sideloaded]

Vandelay, you lied...Brookins isn't +300

I hope you know vandelay has been trolling people. If he did predict +300 not trolling and missed by that much he shouldn't be betting mma. I say that because if the books are off that much and his line is close to correct vandelay has a huge edge and should be posting from yachts with models sucking his dick. Or there is another reason why he was so off. Either way he shouldn't be betting mma anymore.

[poopoo333]

Dongi Yang is what I call my weiner

I call mine "Not So Big and Not So Fat Cock"

[Vandelay]

I thought it would be -400, +300. Ill be betting koch heavily.

[Vandelay]

lines already creeping up

[MMA_scientist]

Is dunham not on the main card? That is a travesty.

[poopoo333]

I'll be on Brookins here...hope he hits +200. Vandelay, put $10k on Koch please

[Vandelay]

5dimes limits are lower. maybe on friday or something id be able to bet my whole acct, unlikely tho cause its a fight night card

[poopoo333]

You are really that confident in Kock? Just wondering why? I am guessing you think Kock will blast him on the feet?

[sideloaded]

He has to be trolling. Brookins is pretty good.

[Vandelay]

I think he will be able to avoid the ground. Im not actually going to bet my acct, just saying I wouldnt even be able to. I might go enough to win 200

[edman5555]

brookins is really really tough and a good wrestler

[Vandelay]

Based on his ability to take down...Michael Johnson?

[sideloaded]

vandelay has tony limited you yet?

[Ludo]

Is dunham not on the main card? That is a travesty.

Little Joe being on facebook twice in his last two fights is a travesty. Dunham being on the undercard isn't really that bad given who he's fighting.

[MMA_scientist]

5dimes limits are lower. maybe on friday or something id be able to bet my whole acct, unlikely tho cause its a fight night card

You can make a $2k bet on 5D no problem.

[sideloaded]

yeah I know either vandelay's BR is huge, tony limited him, or he's trolling again.

[Vandelay]

Really? Not for undercard bets and i didnt think u could for the other main card fights from the lytle and hardy event. Not sure if strikeforce will let you either.

Right now i cant go over a 1000 on rampage and 500 on ellenberger. maybe it will change closer to the fight

and reduced never allows over 500

[MMA_scientist]

I made a $1700 bet on the SF card. No issue.

Sometimes I have to put it in as a few separate bets. My limits are randomly different all the time. Try putting in an odd number like $699, for some reason, that works for me. But yeah, you might have to wait until the line is set.

[Vandelay]

Thats to win 100 tho. they wouldnt be hurt by that. go put 2000 on rampage or something and see what happens

[sideloaded]

limits always go higher on fight day. Unless tony did limit you then you're fucked.

[poopoo333]

Really? Not for undercard bets and i didnt think u could for the other main card fights from the lytle and hardy event. Not sure if strikeforce will let you either.

Right now i cant go over a 1000 on rampage and 500 on ellenberger. maybe it will change closer to the fight

and reduced never allows over 500

You are putting $1000 on Rampage?

[MMA_scientist]

The rampage line should be set. Hmm. You need BM.

[sideloaded]

just put rampage in a parlay with something like -3000, no joke it will let you go up to 5000. parlays are always a good way to circumvent limits.

[sideloaded]

http://i.imgur.com/hhn7X.png

they would never take that much on one bet. But teasers and parlays have way higher limits.

[poopoo333]

WTF you bet that much on teasers?

[MMA_scientist]

just put rampage in a parlay with something like -3000, no joke it will let you go up to 5000. parlays are always a good way to circumvent limits.

Ah. I never knew. The most I have ever bet on a close to even fight is about $600 or $700. All of my higher limits have been parlays.

[sideloaded]

That was preseason. I wouldn't do that in regular season. But in preseason totals are lower so points are worth more. So teasers are the way to go.

[MMA_scientist]

That's not sideloaded's page is it?

[MMA_scientist]

You bet $5000 on a wiseman? GTFO, that is not your account is it?

[poopoo333]

That was preseason. I wouldn't do that in regular season. But in preseason totals are lower so points are worth more. So teasers are the way to go.

If that is really your account...did you lose?? I assume so. If that was your account and you won $100,000+ you'd tell us.

[Vandelay]

im calling bs on that pic

[sideloaded]

I lost this year. last year was different though.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1420/teasers2.png

[MMA_scientist]

It can't possibly be sideloaded's acct. He told me he makes $22k per year and is impoverished. If he is living in squalor, I would be kind of surprised to see him pissing away 5 dimes on miracle parlays.

[MMA_scientist]

why do you troll sideloaded? I don't get it. What do you get out of it?

[sideloaded]

what do you mean? poopoo is a poor college kid but has 22k in cash. that first parlay for 500 was just one weeks check. Big deal if I lose it. Then I won and built up my account from there. I've lost a lot too. Like this year i lost 5k alone in the nfl pre season. It happens. Just keep rolling on.

[poopoo333]

what do you mean? poopoo is a poor college kid but has 22k in cash.

Not exactly. I live at home and don't pay for shit. Saving money since being 15 or 16 works out well.

[MMA_scientist]

But he doesn't bitch about not having any money. He also bets like 20 bucks, he plays within his means like a good asian. I am certain that is not your account, that is not even at issue. The issue is why you keep trolling all the time. Act right.

[poopoo333]

But he doesn't bitch about not having any money. He also bets like 20 bucks, he plays within his means like a good asian. I am certain that is not your account, that is not even at issue. The issue is why you keep trolling all the time. Act right.

ya 1u=$20 for me. I am pretty sure when I get to the point where I can play with $100 units I won't be making 1,000,000 plays every event.

[sideloaded]

my units are 50 bucks. Last night I put 2500 on gayweather and I regret the shit out of it.

[MMA_scientist]

my units are 50 bucks. Last night I put 2500 on gayweather and I regret the shit out of it.

How many units in your bankroll? Or do you just bet 50 bucks with no defined bankroll...

[sideloaded]

my bodog BR was 50u so I put everything on mayweather, my 5 dimes account fluctuates a lot. I guess right now my 5dimes account is 250u but I over bet all the time.

[poopoo333]

Screenshot of mayweather ticket or negs

[sideloaded]

http://i.imgur.com/14DsF.png

[poopoo333]

BALLER

[sbjj]

Dude, i would have parlayed that Mayweather bet with one more fight. Maybe Alvarez or a UFC fight you are confidant in. Or maybe just bet 500 on him by decision.

All that said, he really should win. Do not sweat it to much.

[sideloaded]

http://i.imgur.com/GfNo1.png

[sideloaded]

oops I posted my account number

[sideloaded]

http://i.imgur.com/OKfG9.jpg

[Mr. IWS]

http://i.imgur.com/14DsF.png

Skepical hippo was skeptical, but that was some pimp shit right there.

Reeped twice

[MMA_scientist]

Here's mine:

http://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz51/bpilgrim/5dpage1.jpg

[MMA_scientist]

...

[MMA_scientist]

I thought it would be -400, +300. Ill be betting koch heavily.

Just watched Koch/Mendes. In Japan, Koch won. Mendes was having a really hard time getting him down in round 1, then when he did start getting takedowns, he was getting beat up from bottom. Brookins standup is a lot worse than Mendes' too. at least his striking defense seems to be worse. Koch is a Duke Roufus guy, his striking is worls ahead of Brookins. Hate betting against the wrestler as an underdog... but I agree that Koch should win easy.

My

[Vandelay]

The takedowns mendes did get were due to his athleticism. Quickly dipping under a punch or when Koch was moving forward and koch couldn't drop his hips quick enough. Pretty sure brookins is more of a grinder type who wont dbl leg his opponent

[MMA_scientist]

3 reasons sideloaded screen shots are worked:

1. You can tell he pasted numbers over the balances on both the mayweather bet and 5d balance. Go look at the 5d balance of your own account, notice how the numbers are in a different font than what he posted.
2. It is a perfectly round number.
3. The most telling and obvious thing, however, is that the little down arrow next to the balance is too close to the question mark button. He tried to cram the extra numbers in without moving the "Account Balance" over too. Go look at your 5d account and you will see there are several spaces between the arrow and question mark.

Bottom line, I will bet my bankroll right now that that is a paint job on a screen shot.


I tried to give you yet another shot at acting right... posting a fake screenshot... I don't understand asperger's, so I am not judging you. Just stop doing weird and stupid shit all the time.

[MMA_scientist]

The takedowns mendes did get were due to his athleticism. Quickly dipping under a punch or when Koch was moving forward and koch couldn't drop his hips quick enough. Pretty sure brookins is more of a grinder type who wont dbl leg his opponent

yeah, Brookins is a totally different wrestler. He likes throws and clinches. Still, I think he can stop the TD's at least much of the time.

[sideloaded]

3 reasons sideloaded screen shots are worked:

1. You can tell he pasted numbers over the balances on both the mayweather bet and 5d balance. Go look at the 5d balance of your own account, notice how the numbers are in a different font than what he posted.
2. It is a perfectly round number.
3. The most telling and obvious thing, however, is that the little down arrow next to the balance is too close to the question mark button. He tried to cram the extra numbers in without moving the "Account Balance" over too. Go look at your 5d account and you will see there are several spaces between the arrow and question mark.

Bottom line, I will bet my bankroll right now that that is a paint job on a screen shot.


I tried to give you yet another shot at acting right... posting a fake screenshot... I don't understand asperger's, so I am not judging you. Just stop doing weird and stupid shit all the time.

Did it tilt you so much?
http://media.rhizome.org/blog/3637/01.jpg

[MMA_scientist]

Not tilt. I just don't understand it.

[sideloaded]

Ass burgers bro breh, you know I wanted to bang my mom? Sick isn't it?

[sbjj]

What the H?

[MMA_scientist]

What the H?

Nothing, sideloaded is just acting retarded again.

Guy just comes on here and acts weird for fun. Gets banned what 5 times now, visits the forum everyday even though he is banned, and then comes back and acts a fool until everyone gets sick of him again... and that time seems to be upon us again. He claims to have autism or down's syndrome or something... basically he is a troll...

[sideloaded]

Nothing, sideloaded is just acting retarded again.

Guy just comes on here and acts weird for fun. Gets banned what 5 times now, visits the forum everyday even though he is banned, and then comes back and acts a fool until everyone gets sick of him again... and that time seems to be upon us again. He claims to have autism or down's syndrome or something... basically he is a troll...
You're the troll MMA_alchemist. You've feuded with everyone on the forum and refuse to admit you hate risk. That's why you make those super safe bets over and over.

[sbjj]

I am actually rolling reading you and him going back and forth right now.

[sideloaded]

What is so sad is I'm a out of work teenager with nothing to do. MMA_alchemist is supposed to be some hot shot lawyer yet plays on the internet chit chat room all day.

[MMA_scientist]

I don't refuse to admit that. I have said several times I don't like losing and I don't think I can cap very well.

I just stay ahead and win because I have a good bankroll management.

I don't care if any one thinks I am a good capper or if I have a poor strategy... I come here to talk mma because I have no friends to talk MMA with and to get different perpectives on fights I am thinking about betting. Along the way, I like to engage in general bullshitting about things. Not everyone here likes me, but I don't think anyone would call me a troll. I have never represented to be something I am not.

I don't really think you are a troll tbh, I think there is something wrong with you, like you have an emotional problem or something. Whatever the case may be... I don't really have the inclination to deal with you or get dragged into your nonsense all the time.

[sbjj]

Shit man, I like both of you. You two are like Eddie Murphy and Nick Nolte.

[sideloaded]

I don't refuse to admit that. I have said several times I don't like losing and I don't think I can cap very well.

I just stay ahead and win because I have a good bankroll management.

I don't care if any one thinks I am a good capper or if I have a poor strategy... I come here to talk mma because I have no friends to talk MMA with and to get different perpectives on fights I am thinking about betting. Along the way, I like to engage in general bullshitting about things. Not everyone here likes me, but I don't think anyone would call me a troll. I have never represented to be something I am not.

I don't really think you are a troll tbh, I think there is something wrong with you, like you have an emotional problem or something. Whatever the case may be... I don't really have the inclination to deal with you or get dragged into your nonsense all the time.



Sick burn at the end. I already told you my mom doesn't love me. If I have emotional problems what the hell is wrong with zY?

[MMA_scientist]

Sick burn at the end. I already told you my mom doesn't love me.

I honestly don't even know what you are talking about. I want to fued with you, I really do. But you have to be coherent for a second...

[sideloaded]

Come on Scientist do your homework. I posted a picture of me and my real mom. She was a slut as a teenager and had me out of wedlock. I recently just met up with her again. While drinking with her I had some strong feelings that I was confused about. Upon returning home I did some research on genetic sexual attraction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction). I told IWS and you've ridiculed me ever since.

[MMA_scientist]

Ok, but what does that have to do with anything I said to you? That is what I am talking about, I am not following you well enough to respond sarcastically.

[sideloaded]

Ok, but what does that have to do with anything I said to you? That is what I am talking about, I am not following you well enough to respond sarcastically.

You said I had emotional problems. I said sick burn because you knew about the mother situation. Scientist are you my real dad?

[Mr. IWS]

::popcorn::

[MMA_scientist]

Ok, see, most of the world is not going to be able to psychically extract that connection in your mind.

I was actually not referring to that at all...

[sbjj]

Funny stuff.

[edman5555]

i would love to hang out with everyone here. Sit at a table at a bar with sideloaded and scientist and just watch while drinking my beer.

[sbjj]

i would love to hang out with everyone here. Sit at a table at a bar with sideloaded and scientist and just watch while drinking my beer.

What about Poopoo. He got a fake ID?

[MMA_scientist]

It would probably be funny for about an hour.

[sideloaded]

Nah scientist you're a nice enough guy I should quit bothering you. Life beats me down and I come on here and take it out on you. zY is the real villain of the forum.

[MMA_scientist]

Sideloaded, you probably don't bother me as much as you think you do. You just do some weird shit that I find myself inexplicably wanting to call you on... I am going to put you back on ignore now though, if it is all the same to you.

Why is zY a villain? I actually find zY to be pretty damn amusing.

[Mr. IWS]

zY is the real villain of the forum.

Nah, dats me

[poopoo333]

Stream?

[Svino]

Sideloaded, you probably don't bother me as much as you think you do. You just do some weird shit that I find myself inexplicably wanting to call you on... I am going to put you back on ignore now though, if it is all the same to you.

I think what you all need to get with Sideloaded is that he is pure, distilled troll. You have to accept or reject him on those terms. Love it or hate it, his posts are best thought of as a form of performance art. When you challenge him on the validity of a screenshot or ask him to confirm what he posts, it's like asking a pro wrestler to break kayfabe. You might as well sit Chael Sonnen down with 5 hours of his fight footage and ask him to justify how he really won every minute of every fight; it is missing the point.

[MMA_scientist]

That is very well put. I know that I react the same way, because occasionally sideloaded will seriously attempt to break down a fight, but all I can hear is that Okami is a better striker than Anderson...

[Svino]

More lines out. I'm thinking maybe Bailey at +350 and Rocha at -165 could be good bets.

[trotterz]

I am thinking about putting money on Clay Harvison. In his fight with Justin Edwards, I was all over Justin Edwards and Clay managed to win a decision, so maybe he is better than I was thinking. And Seth is not that good, I think he is overrated.
Anybody here has the video of edwards vs. Harvison?

[trotterz]

forget about it, I just realized that Seth just beat Alex Garcia who was one of the best prospect from Canada

[poopoo333]

Edwards was doing well then he gassed and got lit up for the rest of the fight and was failing TDs. Don't know much about that fight though. I put 0.25u on Bailey @+350, Lullo, and Edwards.

[Luke]

Stream?

BOLERZ!!!!

Guess I missed some good shit in this thread.

[Luke]

I think what you all need to get with Sideloaded is that he is pure, distilled troll. You have to accept or reject him on those terms. Love it or hate it, his posts are best thought of as a form of performance art. When you challenge him on the validity of a screenshot or ask him to confirm what he posts, it's like asking a pro wrestler to break kayfabe. You might as well sit Chael Sonnen down with 5 hours of his fight footage and ask him to justify how he really won every minute of every fight; it is missing the point.

The thing is sideloaded is very smart he just likes to goof off .

[MMA_scientist]

The thing is sideloaded is very smart he just likes to goof off .

I think we have different definitions of both "smart" and "goof off".

[MMA_scientist]

I love Rocha @ -175.

What am I missing?

[Luke]

I think we have different definitions of both "smart" and "goof off".

He is smart ,I've seen some of his posts and I guarantee he knows more about betting than most of the MMA forum.

Yes he maybe crazy ,and his posts sometimes maybe off the wall, but I just considering him goofing off.

[MMA_scientist]

He is smart ,I've seen some of his posts and I guarantee he knows more about betting than most of the MMA forum.

Yes he maybe crazy ,and his posts sometimes maybe off the wall, but I just considering him goofing off.

Whatever, I don't care. I don't want to waste anymore time talking it. We disagree.

[sideloaded]

Whatever, I don't care. I don't want to waste anymore time talking it. We disagree.

http://i.imgur.com/xMgt5.gif but srs y u mad tho?

[sideloaded]

That is very well put. I know that I react the same way, because occasionally sideloaded will seriously attempt to break down a fight, but all I can hear is that Okami is a better striker than Anderson...

I never said that. I said he could hang. Which was wrong of course. But most of the forum thought Okami had a good chance including you. Occasionally break down a fight? Another back handed comment. I guess when I talk about a fight it's weird to you because I have convictions and pick a side. Here is your break down for every fight in the future and through out time "X fighter should win, but given the odds fighter Y has value" Then you just lay huge chalk on a parlay anyways.

[MMA_scientist]

Not mad. Just that the you are helping devlove the forum into SD jr, where you can't get a decent response or have to wade through a bunch of nonsense to get on topic. I just don't find the atmosphere fun or funny. Not a knock on you or anyone else... just the way it is.

[MMA_scientist]

I never said that. I said he could hang. Which was wrong of course. But most of the forum thought Okami had a good chance including you. Occasionally break down a fight? Another back handed comment. I guess when I talk about a fight it's weird to you because I have convictions and pick a side. Here is your break down for every fight in the future and through out time "X fighter should win, but given the odds fighter Y has value" Then you just lay huge chalk on a parlay anyways.

was talking about Sonnen.

[poopoo333]

I just wanna bang hot chicks after I win money on Mckenzie.

[sideloaded]

Not mad. Just that the you are helping devlove the forum into SD jr, where you can't get a decent response or have to wade through a bunch of nonsense to get on topic. I just don't find the atmosphere fun or funny. Not a knock on you or anyone else... just the way it is.

I'm sorry I'm out of your comfort zone. I will fall in line and tail your bets from now on and agree with all your breakdowns. -5000 lines here I come.

[Luke]

Okay no more jabs at each other....play nice. It's one thing to goof off but we all know by now not to challenge someones roll ,profit, betting ways,etc .......it just aint right. Trolling,goofing off ,whatever I don't care about.

[MMA_scientist]

sigh...

[Luke]

sigh...

Were you having fun? Well then blast away at each other .......I just didnt want to see anyone get mad and thought that's where it was heading but by all means if neither of you care got to town.

[poopoo333]

I wonder if Scientist and Sideloaded skype each other

[Luke]

I wonder if Scientist and Sideloaded skype each other

I've never used sykpe before.

[MMA_scientist]

Okay no more jabs at each other....play nice. It's one thing to goof off but we all know by now not to challenge someones roll ,profit, betting ways,etc .......it just aint right. Trolling,goofing off ,whatever I don't care about.

That doesn't bother me. I am up substantially for the year and over the last several years everyone on here has seen my plays... anyone who paid attention knows I am a winning bettor. I don't care about that at all (in this case).

I am not taking jabs... if I was trying to take shots, it would not be difficult and you would know it. I guess I am just in the same place you were a few months back... I spend time on here, but I see no point in doing that if this is the atmosphere here. It is fine, it is my thing, I am too old for the internet I guess, because all this bullshit just annoys me.

[poopoo333]

I spend time on here, but I see no point in doing that if this is the atmosphere here.

Because of one poster?

http://www.investwithsports.com/newforum/profile.php?do=ignorelist

[MMA_scientist]

Were you having fun? Well then blast away at each other .......I just didnt want to see anyone get mad and thought that's where it was heading but by all means if neither of you care got to town.

No I am not having fun, I am not mad though. I said it before and this is not just talk... I don't give two ball hairs about what sideloaded or anyone else says about my betting habits. Until someone can show me they can do better over a sustained period, I don't care. They come, they go.

I don't like flaming sideloaded either, I have done it before, but I generally don't get a big kick out of breaking him down. I mean, I genuinely asked him why he keeps making up random shit and posting weird things... he doesn't want to respond, fine. Svino nailed it, he can't respond... it is what it is. Take it or leave it. I just choose not to partake in it. It is fine, I am not asking for him to leave or anything, just don't expect me to embrace him as part of the community.

[Vandelay]

I will also be on rocha. Him and Koch are my two favorite bets on this card. Gotta look at brookins a little more and might rewatch rochas fight with cerrone.

[Luke]

That doesn't bother me. I am up substantially for the year and over the last several years everyone on here has seen my plays... anyone who paid attention knows I am a winning bettor. I don't care about that at all (in this case).

I am not taking jabs... if I was trying to take shots, it would not be difficult and you would know it. I guess I am just in the same place you were a few months back... I spend time on here, but I see no point in doing that if this is the atmosphere here. It is fine, it is my thing, I am too old for the internet I guess, because all this bullshit just annoys me.

I was there a few months ago, seemed like every time I posted something,asked something ,or needed something all I got was a smart remark. Maybe it was all in my head or maybe I was just stressed out and tired but one day I just got over it and it didn't seem like everyone was being a smart ass anymore . So I do know what you are saying and how you're feeling .

A lot of the shit that pissed me off I just told people(sometimes in not so nice ways) and that seemed to help a lot. Once people stop doing the shit to you that annoys you really bad the rest of the BS is easy to deal with,for me at least . So feel free to tell whoever to stop doing one thing or another,even if its me.

[poopoo333]

A lot of the shit that pissed me off I just told people(sometimes in not so nice ways)

BOL, like the time you told me I couldn't open my eyes any further? ::crying::

[Luke]

BOL, like the time you told me I couldn't open my eyes any further? ::crying::

Yeah.........that wasnt nice at all,I was pretty mean there for a while.I also went off on you when you spell checked one of my posts,didn't mean anything by those things I said I was just stressed out and tired at the time. Sorry about both of those .

[MMA_scientist]

I will also be on rocha. Him and Koch are my two favorite bets on this card. Gotta look at brookins a little more and might rewatch rochas fight with cerrone.

I agree for sure on Rocha. I have my hesitations about Koch, but I am coming around. Post the cerrone fight if you find it.

[sideloaded]

No I am not having fun, I am not mad though. I said it before and this is not just talk... I don't give two ball hairs about what sideloaded or anyone else says about my betting habits. Until someone can show me they can do better over a sustained period, I don't care. They come, they go.

I don't like flaming sideloaded either, I have done it before, but I generally don't get a big kick out of breaking him down. I mean, I genuinely asked him why he keeps making up random shit and posting weird things... he doesn't want to respond, fine. Svino nailed it, he can't respond... it is what it is. Take it or leave it. I just choose not to partake in it. It is fine, I am not asking for him to leave or anything, just don't expect me to embrace him as part of the community.


hahahaha flame me? How? Rule 1 number one on the internet never post personal facts. That picture isn't me and thats not my mom. I got that pic off of the joerogan board. I've never once posted anything true about me on this board. You're a lawyer, you argue for a living so I don't believe for one second this stuff annoys you. I only regret that you copped out so early and pulled the "I'm leaving" sympathy card. I guess it was your ace in the hole since your lackeys will surely beg you to stay and you know I have no public support. You won this, but not with talent. Anyways I'm banned once zak gets up so peace out bros.

[Vandelay]

Your lack of insight wont be missed.

and cerrone rocha fight

http://mma-geeks.com/2011/07/15/donald-cerrone-vs-vagner-rocha-fight-video-ufc-131/

[MMA_scientist]

I didn't say I was leaving. I am not leaving, I said I am not participating in a troll game and I don't to spend my time guessing who is a troll. You keep bringing up all these lackeys, I have no lackeys, that is an insult the posters, not me.

The funny thing is that yo think it improves your position by saying that everything is a lie. That is worse- that means that you spend not just hours, not weeks--- years, coming in here making shit up on the internet.

You probably will not believe me, but I actually sent messages asking for you NOT to be banned on my account. If you want to stay, stay.

As far as winning, talent, etc. I really don't even know what you are talking about. You are imagining that I am engaging in some sort of internet troll match with you... I am not. Grow up. Sober up, and try again tomorrow.

[MMA_scientist]

Your lack of insight wont be missed.

and cerrone rocha fight

http://mma-geeks.com/2011/07/15/donald-cerrone-vs-vagner-rocha-fight-video-ufc-131/

Many thanks.

[Vandelay]

Rocha has some power in his hands. His standup actually isnt that bad. I think he better everywhere and will eventually sub mckenzie.

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah, I watched that. I think that line is a gift.

[sideloaded]

I didn't say I was leaving. I am not leaving, I said I am not participating in a troll game and I don't to spend my time guessing who is a troll. You keep bringing up all these lackeys, I have no lackeys, that is an insult the posters, not me.

The funny thing is that yo think it improves your position by saying that everything is a lie. That is worse- that means that you spend not just hours, not weeks--- years, coming in here making shit up on the internet.

You probably will not believe me, but I actually sent messages asking for you NOT to be banned on my account. If you want to stay, stay.

As far as winning, talent, etc. I really don't even know what you are talking about. You are imagining that I am engaging in some sort of internet troll match with you... I am not. Grow up. Sober up, and try again tomorrow.

Sober up? I bet you wish I was a huge druggie loser but alas I'm not.

http://i.imgur.com/9kvZo.png

[sideloaded]

Your lack of insight wont be missed.

and cerrone rocha fight

http://mma-geeks.com/2011/07/15/donald-cerrone-vs-vagner-rocha-fight-video-ufc-131/
You're cool bro. Peace.

[MMA_scientist]

Sober up? I bet you wish I was a huge druggie loser but alas I'm not.

Again, I don't care if you are or are not a druggie (though whether it is true or not, you obviously have issues). Posting "haha I am troll" does not make you look better, it makes you look worse (and very pathetic for having committed over a year of your life to it). Frankly, I would think more highly of you if you were a druggie loser who just shared too much... being a guy that takes pictures off the internet and spends all day making shit up may not make you a druggie loser, it just makes you a regular loser. Either way...

Sideloaded, I don't care, I really don't. Congrats on lying on the internet, you won the internet. I don't know what king of response you are hoping for here.

sober up, don't sober up, whatever it is that you need to do, do that. All I ask is that you stop jerking everyone around. If you want to be part of the team and contribute, great. You obviously have some intelligence and know some things about bookmaking and betting. But if you want to act like dickwad all day, don't get pissed when you get called on it.

Again, I am not playing internet troll chess with you, that is just in your head. Lots of people don't post their info and no one gives a shit... but the fact that you think it is a victory of some kind that you are troll... it's not.

[SPX]

Sober up? I bet you wish I was a huge druggie loser but alas I'm not.

The real problem is that we expect honesty and truthfulness. But you are 100% always fucking around. Not that this is a revelation. I've always known it.

So IWS isn't the place for you.

[sideloaded]

I was unbanned for one reason. To be ridiculed left and right then when you guys were done the re banning would commence. I'm not the sick one.

[SPX]

BOL!

Peace out, nigga.

[Ludo]

Thats some kind of demented shit in your sig quote, X.

[Luke]

Thats some kind of demented shit in your sig quote, X.

you mean this:


Current: Soon to come once I tally the shit. . .

I thought so too.

[Ludo]

you mean this:



I thought so too.

Exactly.

[SPX]

Ha ha.

Demented, how?

I don't necessarily disagree, but I want your thoughts. It is a recent quote, though. Within days.

[SPX]

Hmm?

[MMA_scientist]

I was unbanned for one reason. To be ridiculed left and right then when you guys were done the re banning would commence. I'm not the sick one.

Well you dish it out too.

I asked you to just act right, but you couldn't do it, and now they gone banned you again.

Let the record reflect that I thought you had some good in you somewhere and I though we could turn you into a productive poster.

Thanks for 1channel though, that changed my life.

[Luke]

The real problem is that we expect honesty and truthfulness. But you are 100% always fucking around. Not that this is a revelation. I've always known it.



Yep,this is why you are gone. I defended you saying you were just goofing off but the lying shit I don't like.

[Luke]

Let the record reflect that I thought you had some good in you somewhere and I though we could turn you into a productive poster.



As did I

[SPX]

Shit, as did I. I said to bring his ass back.

But goddamn. Look where that got us.

[Luke]

Shit, as did I. I said to bring his ass back.

.

And while we are on the record I was against bringing him back. In fact I think we should ban SPX for causing this whole mess.

[Ludo]

Ha ha.

Demented, how?

I don't necessarily disagree, but I want your thoughts. It is a recent quote, though. Within days.


Well it goes beyond simple brand loyalty. It would be one thing if someone said something like that concerning say PC or even just Dell as opposed to Apple. Or even Windows as opposed to Linux, etc etc etc. Refusing to use anything that and convincing yourself that you don't need it if it isn't compatible with a near fourteen year old operating system. Thats like saying anything that doesn't work with a steam power engine isn't worth having. It's borderline phobic almost, at least thats the way it comes off. The entire point of computers was/is to make things easier and to do things beyond the means of other machines, but there is a time where you are actually working as a detriment to your own efficiency in that line of thinking. It's pretty astounding to be honest.

[SPX]

And while we are on the record I was against bringing him back. In fact I think we should ban SPX for causing this whole mess.

I accept my responsibility. I was just trying to be nice to a soul that I thought might be suffering.

My bad.

[Ludo]

The real problem is that we expect honesty and truthfulness. But you are 100% always fucking around. Not that this is a revelation. I've always known it.

So IWS isn't the place for you.


Yep,this is why you are gone. I defended you saying you were just goofing off but the lying shit I don't like.


Shit, as did I. I said to bring his ass back.

But goddamn. Look where that got us.


And while we are on the record I was against bringing him back. In fact I think we should ban SPX for causing this whole mess.


I accept my responsibility. I was just trying to be nice to a soul that I thought might be suffering.

My bad.


Apathy (also called impassivity or perfunctoriness) is a state of indifference, or the suppression of emotions such as concern, excitement, motivation and passion. An apathetic individual has an absence of interest in or concern about emotional, social, spiritual, philosophical or physical life.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

[Luke]

I accept my responsibility. I was just trying to be nice to a soul that I thought might be suffering.

My bad.

Lol, I was just kidding .It doesnt matter who's idea it was .

[SPX]

Well it goes beyond simple brand loyalty. It would be one thing if someone said something like that concerning say PC or even just Dell as opposed to Apple. Or even Windows as opposed to Linux, etc etc etc. Refusing to use anything that and convincing yourself that you don't need it if it isn't compatible with a near fourteen year old operating system. Thats like saying anything that doesn't work with a steam power engine isn't worth having. It's borderline phobic almost, at least thats the way it comes off. The entire point of computers was/is to make things easier and to do things beyond the means of other machines, but there is a time where you are actually working as a detriment to your own efficiency in that line of thinking. It's pretty astounding to be honest.

I agree. I actually like fucking around with old computer shit, but only for nostalgic or curiosity purposes.

You might find this thread interesting for the lulz. I make an appearance or two in there:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/153313-the-official-windows-9x-is-dead-thread/

[Svino]

Well, since he's banned, let me eulogize him.

To Sideloaded: He was a dedicated and successful troll. [pours out 40 on ground]

I've seen other persistent trolls around the internets, but Sideloaded always gave it that extra effort. I think his particular specialty was watching for a topic that would make us argue, then later on lobbing out a controversial post to reignite the argument. It's that kind of attention to detail you don't always get in a troll.

[Luke]

Well, since he's banned, let me eulogize him.

To Sideloaded: He was a dedicated and successful troll. [pours out 40 on ground]

I've seen other persistent trolls around the internets, but Sideloaded always gave it that extra effort. I think his particular specialty was watching for a topic that would make us argue, then later on lobbing out a controversial post to reignite the argument. It's that kind of attention to detail you don't always get in a troll.


haha ....repped

[Luke]

Lather, rinse, repeat.


repped

[MMA_scientist]

^^ svino always had a special insight into him. Thanks for those kind words.

He was that special mix of just clever enough to make you question whether he was serious or not and just unbalanced enough to hang around the board lurking for months at a time.

We'll see you again old friend, we will see you again.

[SPX]

What the fuck happened in here? Where did all the movie discussion go?

[Ludo]

What the fuck happened in here? Where did all the movie discussion go?

Wasn't that in another thread?

[SPX]

Locate it for me.

[Ludo]

http://www.investwithsports.com/newforum/showthread.php?18645-UFC-on-Versus-6/page4

[SPX]

You're a good man.

[Mr. IWS]

5 star thread

Would read again

[poopoo333]

I vote to reinstate sideloaded. He is part of this dysfunctional family.