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Here's the main card:
Matt Horwich vs. Jake Rosholt
Ricco Rodriguez vs. Tony Lopez
Emanuel Newton vs. Ilir Latifi
Jeremy Kimball vs. Robert Hantz
Shannon Ritch vs. Daniel Almeida
Horwich actually beat Rosholt not too long ago by third round TKO. I haven't seen the fight, but since there's such a quick rematch it makes me think that Rosholt was either dominating the fight up to that point and/or the stoppage was controversial. In any case, I think Rosholt should win and hope we get a decent line considering Horwich beat him once already.
poopoo333
07-04-2011, 08:28 PM
A three time NCAA champion at OK ST, Rosholt fired off numerous takedowns on Horwich in the first 10 minutes of their fight. In the latter portion of round number two Horwich was consistently able to reverse the position on Rosholt and work him with effective ground n' pound strikes.
The final round saw Horwich land a takedown on Rosholt. On the ground the veteran of over 45 pro fights, Horwich took Rosholt's back and unleashed an barrage of unblocked punches before the referee stepped in to stop the fight. Horwich moves to 2-3 in his last five contests, with his other win a choke out of ex-UFC title challenger Thales Leites.
Rosholt is now 1-1 since being cut by the UFC in November 2009.
Interesting. Thanks for finding that.
Maybe either guy would be a good play as a dog.
The thing about Horwich is that he's so inconsistent. He'll beat guys like Thales Leites and then lose to guys like Tom Watson.
flyinggogoplata
07-04-2011, 08:47 PM
im staying the fuck away from shark fights. Never turned a profit on any shark fight card. ::thumbdown::
As of right now I'm thinking whoever is the dog in the Rosholt/Horwich fight, Ricco Rodriguez, and Daniel Almeida, all depending on the lines, of course.
flyinggogoplata
07-04-2011, 08:50 PM
Is this one of those cards to put .1u on every dog?
I don't think so.
Rodriguez and Almeida will both be the faves, I think. Rodriguez for sure.
edman5555
07-04-2011, 09:01 PM
im staying the fuck away from shark fights. Never turned a profit on any shark fight card. ::thumbdown::
I am starting to realize this is what I need to do a well. I don't know shit about any of the fighters on the smaller cards so it's pointless to bet on them. I win sometimes, but not as much as I do with the ufc/strikeforce/sometimes bellator.
If it's fighters who are known though, it doesn't matter what org they're fighting under.
Rosholt and Horwich both had multiple fights in the UFC.
We all know Ricco Rodriguez. And I've never seen Shannon Ritch fight but the nigga's apparently had over 125 fights so there should be enough info to learn something.
edman5555
07-04-2011, 09:43 PM
yeah but i don't want to go and watch all of riccos and shannons fights. that would take a couple hours and I could still get it wrong. With the ufc, I already know all the fighters. That equals a greater payout for the amount of time I put into this.
I agree obviously, but we're in a drought. No more UFC for more than a month.
Shannon Ritch's record is 47-74, BTW. Not only is that weird, considering the numbers are inversed, but he's fought a shitload of guys. Never beat anyone of note, though.
Almeida is 5-1 and also hasn't beat anyone, but he appears to be a pretty good BJJ guy.
Both guys have won most of their fights by sub, but Ritch has also lost of his fights by sub. In all, he has lost 53 fights by submission. Seems we're looking at a jiu-jitsu war here and just from what little I know about Almeida I suspect he will be able to win this one on the ground.
flyinggogoplata
07-04-2011, 09:53 PM
I hope Eddie Bravo is in the corner for Horwich.
Yeah, considering Horwich is a 10th Planet guy it's really no surprise that he was able to beat Rosholt.
flyinggogoplata
07-04-2011, 10:23 PM
10th planet jj > wrestling
10th planet jj > wrestling
It's also better than any other kind of JJ.
Vandelay
07-04-2011, 10:38 PM
http://www.mmabay.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Dave-Herman5.jpg
This man disagrees
poopoo333
07-11-2011, 02:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tETMnbWh6I
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=ZGB7LEV9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YIlK9YdyMQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKiHIOI7jZs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKgJjhrsWPI
poopoo333
07-12-2011, 12:15 AM
Did you guys know these two cards happened?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Fights_15:_Villase%C3%B1or_vs_Camozzi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Fights_16:_Neer_vs._Juarez
poopoo333
07-12-2011, 08:45 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/4071.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)
I think Rosholt will win, but it's funny how Horwich is close to a 2:1 dog considering he just beat Rosholt
I agree. Enough to win a unit on Horwich.
flyinggogoplata
07-13-2011, 07:02 AM
I agree. Enough to win a unit on Horwich.
where did you get that bet..............sbrforum?
Pretty sure that one came from your mom when she was talking in her sleep.
Bitch kept muttering, "Horwich. . . Oh, Horwich!" It was a sign from the gods.
flyinggogoplata
07-13-2011, 01:52 PM
tell my mom thank you!
LOL at Jake Rosholt being -300 on Bodog even though that asshole got finished by Horwich just a few months ago.
poopoo333
07-14-2011, 08:40 PM
I don't get why Rosholt/Horwich is the only line being offered
Yeah, I dunno. I assume some other shit will open up before the fights, but maybe not.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 03:00 PM
Ricco Rodriguez faces Doug Williams at Shark Fights 17 (Updated) (http://mmajunkie.com/news/24412/ricco-rodriguez-currently-without-opponent-at-shark-fights-17.mma)
What the fuck?
Then who is Almeida fighting?
And what the fuck happened to Tony Lopez and Shannon Ritch?
I don't understand the reference. . .
Man, this is fucking GAY. Rodriguez is -1100 to Williams and I was pretty damn sure Almeida would've beat Williams. That's a lost opportunity right there.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 09:52 PM
LOL
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Doug-Williams-17747
Ricco Rodriguez is gonna smash this guy. I may as well just put 11u on him to win 1u
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 10:06 PM
STREAM?!
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 10:12 PM
http://www.mma-tv.net/main.php
There ya go.. just gotta register
LOL
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Doug-Williams-17747
Ricco Rodriguez is gonna smash this guy. I may as well just put 11u on him to win 1u
I literally thought about dumping everything I have on Rodriguez. At least for a minute.
I may as well just put 11u on him to win 1u
I'll do it if you do it.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 10:35 PM
I'll do it if you do it.
Oh man....should we?
You saw what I saw. Williams is 5-12 and every win is over someone with a losing record.
Is it even possible for him to win?
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 10:39 PM
Ricco subbed Williams 1 minute into the 1st round the 1st time they fought...
Oh wait, I don't even have the available funds to make the bet. . .
We both know Ricco is going to clown this fool, though.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 10:42 PM
Oh wait, I don't even have the available funds to make the bet. . .
We both know Ricco is going to clown this fool, though.
BOL, me either on Bookmaker. On 5dimes I do, but he is @-1300.
We'll cry about not doing it later on.
Hopefully Horwich will come through, though. And Kawajiri for damn sure needs to win later.
edman5555
07-15-2011, 10:49 PM
anyone have a feed for this?
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 10:53 PM
anyone have a feed for this?
http://www.great-white-shark.com/shark-food.html
Matt Horwich is a weird motherfucker.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 10:57 PM
BOL, Sideloaded is Matt Horwich.
(Horwich met his wife on craigslist)
I've met a lot of bitches on CL so I can't say shit about that. I got them all for free, though.
Dude, Ricco is going to KILL this fucking guy. I really feel like an asshole not betting everything I can.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:00 PM
I've met a lot of bitches on CL so I can't say shit about that. I got them all for free, though.
Seriously?
Yeah, for real.
Two of them ended up becoming long-term girlfriends. The rest just came and went.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:05 PM
Oh, I didn't even know craigs list was a website where it was like that...I thought it was just to look for jobs, buy stuff, and buy hookers.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:05 PM
war latifi
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:09 PM
you two are deranged.
How?
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:09 PM
If Latifi loses it's gonna be because he is a midget and will probably gas
Oh, I didn't even know craigs list was a website where it was like that...I thought it was just to look for jobs, buy stuff, and buy hookers.
LOL
These were my two Craigslist GFs. . .
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6011/5942059438_2582bb6ecb_m.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6128/5941488719_fc45ebc8cc_m.jpg
Does Newton have anything in his striking arsenal other than a kick?
Because heavily considering a bet on an -1100 favorite is crazy. Remember what happened when Tyson was like a 55 to 1 favorite against Douglas... I'm just saying.
Edit: Remember what happened to Tim Sylvia and Abe Wagner.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:15 PM
Because heavily considering a bet on an -1100 favorite is crazy. Remember what happened when Tyson was like a 55 to 1 favorite against Douglas... I'm just saying.
Edit: Remember what happened to Tim Sylvia and Abe Wagner.
Was I even born when Tyson was a 55 to 1 favorite against Douglas?
Edit: Remember what happened to Tim Sylvia and Abe Wagner.
I think that Ricco is infinitely more likely to crush this guy that Sylvia was to beat Wagner.
Was I even born when Tyson was a 55 to 1 favorite against Douglas?
Were you alive in 1990?
I don't think he was. . .
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:21 PM
How do you judge this fight? Nobody is landing anything. I guess Newton is winning because he is throwing strikes even though he isn't landing.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:21 PM
Were you alive in 1990?
Nope
Newton is definitely landing because at least he is coming forward. Latifi spent most of the second round doing the Kalib Starnes.
How do you judge this fight? Nobody is landing anything. I guess Newton is winning because he is throwing strikes even though he isn't landing.
This fight is LOL. I'm waiting for a crazy KO that just comes out of nowhere.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:23 PM
Seriously, the Latifi I watched while watching video for this fight is nothing like the Latifi we are seeing right now. Fuck you Latifi
Whoever is screaming like they're being raped in the crowd needs to shut the fuck up.
Seriously, the Latifi I watched while watching video for this fight is nothing like the Latifi we are seeing right now. Fuck you Latifi
He needs to just go for broke. Every time he gets aggressive he wins the exchange.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:27 PM
Yeah, he gets aggressive, lands the better shots, and then backs up and stops fighting. The guy is seriously a ruh tard.
Newton fights like one of those stupid kids who pretended to know martial arts when I was growing up.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:29 PM
BOL HAHAHAHAHAHHA
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:29 PM
oh nevermind
BOL I'm glad he only read it wrong.
Sorry you lost, Jordan.
The thing is that if Latifi had been the fighter he was in round 3 in all three rounds then he would've won.
BTW, I've NEVER seen that shit happen.
Well at least it was a reading error and not the judges being truly shitty.
I'm still contemplating dumping everyone in my Bookmaker account on Ricco. I seriously think it's impossible for him to lose here.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:35 PM
How much would it be?
It would be almost 10u to win almost 1u. But not quite.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:36 PM
hmmm the fight is up next
Pretty sure I'll hate myself for not doing it in about 3 minutes. Give or take.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:40 PM
Yeah you may as well do it. I would if I had the funds. But then again I am an idiot
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:41 PM
Why is Ricco Rodriguez fighting a pregnant black guy?
Yeah you may as well do it. I would if I had the funds. But then again I am an idiot
I actually went to do it at the last minute and the line had been pulled.
That single leg was like Randy's ankle trip on James Tony. Motherfucker flopped.
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:43 PM
A bunch of the Albanian's in the crowd just got kicked out for screaming "fuck you judges" and throwing beer.
haha
poopoo333
07-15-2011, 11:45 PM
That was ridiculous. I was thinking the same thing Ludo. I cannot believe Almeida was only -400 against that guy...
Oh well, just gave away free money.
Not really. Just because the chances were borderline 1% chance of losing -1100 is pretty fuckin' steep in a sport where one punch can change a fight.
Did he just say that the heavyweights are too lean and mean after fighting that walking blob with the equilibrium of a deaf person?
The line was definitely steep but I think it was a situation where even though the line the was crazy there was still value there.
Did he just say that the heavyweights are too lean and mean after fighting that walking blob with the equilibrium of a deaf person?
He said, "I definitely want to get lighter. The heavyweights are just too big these days. I want to be lean and mean."
It could just be that I don't put much stock in a fighter who has had a long string of nobodies but also has a ton of mileage on him (this was his 58th fight). I just don't trust these supposed "locks" especially when they start fighting guys in the "somebody I haven't heard of before" category.
I hear you, but Williams was 5-12. I mean, come on.
poopoo333
07-16-2011, 12:01 AM
Yeah and Rodriguez subbed him in a minute before. Ok war Horwich, even though Rosholt will win a decision
Horwich has the EB in his corner. He should definitely win.
Horwich is doing a good job of rushing Rosholt and landing in a flurry.
What the fuck was Horwich thinking just laying there?
Damn, before the TD I actually had Horwich winning the round.
What the fuck was Horwich thinking just laying there?
I don't even know. Probably contemplating quantum physics or something.
Horwich just needs to get up when Rosholt takes him down, it's clear Jake will not follow him to the ground under any circumstances.
Horwich = fail.
I've seen him fight a lot better than this.
Should've said Fuck Horwich and dumped everything on Ricco.
I was waiting for Rosholt to stop Horwich's head Wes Sims style and find a way to lose the fight with 20 seconds to go again.
Horwich = fail.
I've seen him fight a lot better than this.
He hasn't fought a good fight since Thales Leites.
Well the Leites fight wasn't that long ago. . .
Also, Horwich finished Rosholt since then.
poopoo333
07-16-2011, 12:22 AM
I didn't know Jake Rosholt was Ben Henderon's bible brother.
poopoo333
07-16-2011, 12:25 AM
I would like to see Rosholt vs Dan Miller.
Well this sucks. That just broke a streak of 7 straight winning events in a row.
poopoo333
07-16-2011, 12:32 AM
If I wake up tomorrow morning and look at the DREAM results and see Kawajiri lost, I am negging every member of IWS.
Word. Kawajiri better fucking win. Otherwise I'm flying to Japan, taking him down, and laying on top of him for 15 minutes.
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