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poopoo333

10-23-2011, 08:51 PM

MAIN CARD (HDNet)

Andreas Kraniotakes vs. Tim Sylvia
Andrei Arlovski vs. Travis Fulton
Mark Ellis vs. Ryan Martinez (heavyweight-tourney opening round)
Jason Bosler vs. Richard Odoms (heavyweight-tourney opening round)
Chris Birchler vs. Jake Heun (heavyweight-tourney opening round)
Walter Harris vs. Esteves Jones (heavyweight-tourney opening round)
Reagan Penn vs. TBA
Waylon Lowe vs. TBA

PRELIMINARY CARD

Todd Monaghan vs. TBA (heavyweight-tourney reserve bout)

SPX

10-24-2011, 06:21 AM

I didn't realize Waylon Lowe had been cut from the UFC. Strange decision. He was 2-2 overall, and 2-1 in his last three. Plus, he was winning the fight with Lentz before getting choked.

Svino

10-24-2011, 12:27 PM

Aw, I didn't realize Rizzo had to pull out of the Sylvia fight.

Speaking of these little promotions, I'm surprised we haven't seen Nate Marquardt back somewhere yet.

SPX

10-24-2011, 01:15 PM

Marquardt signed with BAMMA and has a fight scheduled with always-dangerous TBA.

Vandelay

10-24-2011, 01:33 PM

Regean should destroy tba. hes pretty damn good

edman5555

10-24-2011, 01:53 PM

is reagan actually any good? How is his bjj? He a BB? Did he compete?

Vandelay

10-24-2011, 06:00 PM

Yea hes good. Looked very similar to bj on the ground. His one fight he had he showed good kicks to i believe. He dominated the guy he fought.

SPX

10-24-2011, 06:15 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qznZrjoE6BY

SPX

10-24-2011, 06:16 PM

Looks a lot like BJ even in the way he stands.

I wouldn't pick them out in a crowd as brothers, though.

Svino

11-03-2011, 01:16 PM

Lines are out:

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/467.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

Hmm, is it worth a bet that either Sylvia or Arlovski totally embarrass themselves?

SPX

11-03-2011, 01:36 PM

Wow, Arlovski only -325 to Travis fucking Fulton.

Did anyone think we'd ever see the day?

SPX

11-03-2011, 01:39 PM

I really wish Arlovski would realize that the problem is the beard. It has a sort of Anti-Samson effect.

http://www.fightinginsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/arlovskiandreiafflictio.jpg

>>>>>>>

http://www.yorkblog.com/mma/andrei-arlovski_thumb_medium.jpg

Vandelay

11-03-2011, 02:10 PM

Wow. Too bad i dont have a bookmaker acct. I thought raegan would open around -1000. I also like the arlovski line.

Svino

11-03-2011, 02:17 PM

I dunno, Penn's only had one pro fight, and his opponent only two. It seems like not enough data to justify huge odds, and I learned my lesson about betting on a guy because of his family with Ryan Couture.

I'd be tempted to bet against Arlovski if it weren't for the fact that he is a bad matchup for Fulton (in addition to being more talented overall).

poopoo333

11-03-2011, 02:17 PM

Perhaps an Ellis/Penn parlay..

Vandelay

11-03-2011, 02:23 PM

Ryan Couture isnt the same wrestler his dad is. Hes just a scrapper that gets by on heart and guts. Raegan has some skill. Enough so that he should handle someone with 2 pro fights and has a 3-1 amateur record.

Luke

11-03-2011, 09:19 PM

LSU-Bama

Vandelay

11-04-2011, 12:37 PM

lines should be out later today on 5dimes

Vandelay

11-04-2011, 06:00 PM

Boom done. 7.25 to win 2.5 on Reagan

Svino

11-05-2011, 10:52 PM

Wow, the +484 Martinez totally dominated Ellis.

SPX

11-06-2011, 12:51 AM

Cutts apparently got up to +400, too. Dog's barking tonight.

poopoo333

11-06-2011, 01:52 AM

Wow, the +484 Martinez totally dominated Ellis.

I was gonna lay the juice on Ellis too, glad I didn't. Is this still going on? STREAM??

Svino

11-06-2011, 01:28 AM

I was gonna lay the juice on Ellis too, glad I didn't. Is this still going on? STREAM??

The main 4 fights delivered literally about 2 seconds of entertaining material in total. It was a pretty sad card.

Vandelay

11-06-2011, 09:15 AM

Boom done. 7.25 to win 2.5 on Reagan

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kRuD6zV4Fqs/TNDD5gQJLZI/AAAAAAAAF3w/DmIHZlcPf8g/s400/embarrassed-chimpanzee.jpg

SPX

11-06-2011, 07:47 PM

So does Arlovski get a real opponent next time?

Ludo

11-06-2011, 08:25 PM

SPX

11-06-2011, 08:30 PM

Did it land because AA knocked out Travis Fulton after 14:59 of a lackluster performance?

If so, I will accept it, even though I don't understand it.

Ludo

11-06-2011, 08:34 PM

Did it land because AA knocked out Travis Fulton after 14:59 of a lackluster performance?

If so, I will accept it, even though I don't understand it.

It landed because that head kick was as good as any knockout in Arlovski's whole career.

SPX

11-06-2011, 08:38 PM

It was a great knockout, but it was also against Travis Fulton, a man who is in some ways a legend I feel, but who has NEVER in his 300ish fights beaten anyone of consequence. Plus, if that kicked hadn't landed, after 2 more seconds it just would've been another lackluster performance against a shitty opponent. A few years ago that fight would've been over midway through the first round, if it even lasted that long.

Svino

11-06-2011, 08:40 PM

So does Arlovski get a real opponent next time?

They'll probably give him Timmeh.

So no.

SPX

11-06-2011, 08:47 PM

Well he's at least MORE real than Ray Lopez or Fulton.

Svino

11-06-2011, 08:49 PM

Well he's at least MORE real than Ray Lopez or Fulton.

Best case -- maybe a rematch with Pedro Rizzo.

SPX

11-06-2011, 08:50 PM

Indeed.

Anyone think AA will EVER be invited back by Zuffa?

Svino

11-06-2011, 08:51 PM

Indeed.

Anyone think AA will EVER be invited back by Zuffa?

I'll set it at +3000.

SPX

11-06-2011, 08:55 PM

You never know. He's a "name" and they've brought back guys like Hallman and Jeremy Horn, so if he could string together maybe 5 wins with at least a couple of those being guys people have heard of then I could see it.

Svino

11-06-2011, 08:58 PM

Maybe if he strings together wins over Sylvia, Rizzo, Fedor, Monson, and Barnett.

SPX

11-06-2011, 09:02 PM

Isn't Barnett officially going to the UFC?

Ludo

11-06-2011, 09:32 PM

Isn't Barnett officially going to the UFC?

I don't think anything is ever official with Barnett until it actually comes to fruition. Without a doubt the biggest flake in the history of the sport at the highest level, at least in My opinion.

MMA_scientist

11-07-2011, 10:29 AM

I watched this crap. AA and Sylvia both looked horrible, there is no way either one will ever be a top flight HW again. Fulton actually took a round off AA IMO, and Sylvia looked like dogshit.

Oh and Reagen Penn has worse cardio than BJ. I bet on the fight, I thought it was a set-up/squash fight... Reagan is really pedestrian though, no wrestling, no striking and his BJJ is just decent, he got his guard passed a bunch and never really threatened.

SPX

11-07-2011, 06:52 PM

I don't want to make a final judgment on AA until he fights another real opponent. Or at the very least, they should set up AA/Rogers II.

As for Penn, yeah, he looked fucking terrible. I almost bet him, too. The only reason I didn't was because he was up to -400 by the time I got around to it and said fuck that.