UFC 148 Sonnen vs Silva II

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/506.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[poopoo333]

Jake Shields vs. Jon Fitch scheduled for UFC 148

fucking finally

[poopoo333]

fuck


We may have jumped the gun on FItch/Shields. It is reportedly agreed but not official. The underground first reported it.

[SPX]

What's everyone think of that Cruz/Faber line?

I was hoping to get Faber at +200 or better.

[poopoo333]

What's everyone think of that Cruz/Faber line?

I was hoping to get Faber at +200 or better.

I think it's well set.

And me too, the 1st fight was pretty close. I think it will be the same shit again, but Faber might be able to make some adjustments.

That being said...I'd bet Cruz around -150 as well, I was lucky enough to get him @+120 for the last fight

[Luke]

Fitch will beat Shields.........and like poopoo said the Cruz line is well set. If anything I'd "guess" it goes down

[edman5555]

Fitch/Shields is a good matchup. I want to say Fitch is a better striker but now that I think of it I can't remember seeing him strike a lot. Typically he just "Fitches" people.

[SPX]

Fitch's striking actually isn't that bad and honestly I think it gets overlooked. He was beating Penn on the feet before it became a grappling match.

[poopoo333]

I would probably bet Cruz @-165 on 5 dimes but the fight is too far away.

[poopoo333]

Rich Franklin vs Cung Le announced...I guess Franklin is going back down to middleweight?

[Luke]

Rich Franklin vs Cung Le announced...I guess Franklin is going back down to middleweight?

That would be my guess also

[edman5555]

Awesome fight

[SPX]

War Cung

[poopoo333]

Michael Bisping Vs. Tim Boetsch Reportedly Added To UFC 148 (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/3/19/2884682/ufc-148-michael-bisping-vs-tim-boetsch-mma-news)

[poopoo333]

Additionally, a bantamweight matchup between Renan Barao and Jeff Hougland has been added to the card.

..khjcgfjd

[MMA_scientist]

^^ Why is that a fight?

[poopoo333]

^^ Why is that a fight?

I dunno, let me ask Joe Silva

[poopoo333]

I dunno, let me ask Joe Silva

Just got off the phone with him, he said he wanted to keep Barao active while other top contenders were tied up in the 135 lb division. He didn't want to match him up with Brian Bowles as he is coming off of a loss.

[zY|]

Props for the update, poops.

[SPX]

He didn't want to match him up with Brian Bowles as he is coming off of a loss.

Coming off an ass whipping is more like it.

[poopoo333]

Tito/Forrest III

[SPX]

Interesting.

Forrest has not looked great lately, but he should still be able to beat Tito.

[poopoo333]

UFC 148 adds welterweights Maia vs. Kim, middleweights Fukuda vs. Philippou (http://mmajunkie.com/news/27927/ufc-148-adds-welterweights-maia-vs-kim-middleweights-fukuda-vs-philippou.mma)

[SPX]

Maia vs Kim . . . that's interesting. I favor Maia but think that Kim could actually get the upset here.

Fukuda/Phillipou . . . seems like a pretty evenly matched fight.

[MMA_scientist]

Maia... damn, that's rough. I was hoping at some point he was going to fight someone he could actually take down. Looks like we are going to see K1 Maia again.

[zY|]

K1 Maia vs Karate Kid Kim.

[Luke]

All in on Maia

[poopoo333]

All in on Kim

[SPX]

All in on Maia/Kim draw prop.

[poopoo333]

I really do think Kim is gonna win though

[MMA_scientist]

Kim will probably win. Has anyone taken Kim down yet? Maia only takes fights that are the worst possible matchups for him.

[SPX]

I think it's going to be real close. Both guys are good grapplers with decent striking skills. Not sure who wins it. But I do know that Maia has looked like shit lately.

[MMA_scientist]

He has completely abandoned his base, but also, he has been fighting really tough guys. Weidman and Munoz are not scrubs, I felt he won the Munoz fight and he took Weidman on short notice.

[edman5555]

he was out of shape for the weidman fight, or sick

[MMA_scientist]

Maia has never had a good gas tank, he pretty much always gasses in rd 3. He really didn't fight smart in the Weidman fight, and he was focused on using his jj to escape rather than sweep/submit. He has gone to pretty much an all underhook half guard bottom game, which is really a wrestler's guard. It is basically a single leg attack position or a position to help you stand without exposing your back. I don't know why he has gone away from his triangle game. It is frustrating, I think he is too concerned with losing a decision. In the old days he just threw caution to the wind and went for the finish. I am sure the quality of his opponents has not helped, but I think he should go back to his triangle based guard game, and then if he feels stuck, he can switch the underhook half game.

[poopoo333]

^^ Why is that a fight?

Well not it's Ivan Menjivar vs Renan Barao, Hougland got injured

[poopoo333]

Apparently Bisping/Boetsch opened @-300/+240 on a UK book

[Luke]

Apparently Bisping/Boetsch opened @-300/+240 on a UK book

Seen that. Skybet has Bisping at -275 which I think is a but high

https://www.skybet.com/mma_ufc/upcoming-fights/event/13844181?action=GoRBSBetslip&AFF_ID=59&bsnls=1&bsopen=1

[edman5555]

i favor bisping but boetsche clearly has some power. He can also wrestle. Betting Beotsche is betting he cant land a big punch or wrestle a dec. Him wrestling a decision seems unlikely after seeing how Bisping did with Chael but you never know. No bet for me. If I had to bet, Bisping.

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/506.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

I THINK this is supposed to be on the card too:

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/5113.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[SPX]

Anyone think Le is a good dog play at +265?

I'd actually be tempted to play Bisping at those odds. He almost never gets knocked out and should be much better technically than Boetsch. Then again . . . Okami was all that shit, too.

Forrest should win, but I'm not taking him at -295.

[Ludo]

Anyone think Le is a good dog play at +265?

I'd actually be tempted to play Bisping at those odds. He almost never gets knocked out and should be much better technically than Boetsch. Then again . . . Okami was all that shit, too.

Forrest should win, but I'm not taking him at -295.

Boetsch gets 30-27'd here, just like he was going to last time around before Yushin's brain shut off between the second and third rounds. I would stay far away from Le here. He's never fought anyone as well rounded as Franklin, and he's never beat anyone who was as scrappy as Franklin who wasn't over the hill. I'm not convinced Forest wants to be a professional fighter anymore. He was talking about how his whole life has changed before the Shogun fight that he got blown out in under 3 minutes in. Even against Tito I don't know if Forest who doesn't care about fighting can pull it out, and certainly not for that price.

[SPX]

I would stay far away from Le here. He's never fought anyone as well rounded as Franklin, and he's never beat anyone who was as scrappy as Franklin who wasn't over the hill.

I figure Franklin will win, but if you look at Franklin's past several fights, he really hasn't been doing great. He fought a really close fight with Wandy, got killed by Belfort, was getting beat by Liddell before the KO, and got dominated by Griffin. If Cung's cardio is under control, I could see him taking it.



I'm not convinced Forest wants to be a professional fighter anymore. He was talking about how his whole life has changed before the Shogun fight that he got blown out in under 3 minutes in. Even against Tito I don't know if Forest who doesn't care about fighting can pull it out, and certainly not for that price.

Whole life had changed how, I wonder?

And yes, Forrest got blown out by Shogun, but right before that he beat Franklin easily. And before that he beat Tito via what should've been a clear UD.

[poopoo333]

Anyone think Le is a good dog play at +265?

I do. Franklin has been injured on and off since February 2011, and is making 185 for the first time since 2008.

[MMA_scientist]

Franklin rarely tries to take the fight down. I like Cung at those odds too. Franklin is pretty much done fighting IMO.

Bisping is going to win, he beat Sonnen in a lot of people's eyes, I don't see what Boetch is going to do to him. Bisping gets dropped kind of a lot for a guy that is supposed to be a kickboxer, but at 3:1, I think that the odds are on Bisping's side.

[SPX]

Fuck it. Dropped enough on Cung to win a unit.

[SPX]

Interesting fact on Franklin that I just noticed: In 35 fights, he's never lost 2 in a row.

[poopoo333]

Interesting fact on Franklin that I just noticed: In 35 fights, he's never lost 2 in a row.

Rampage was that way too. He got lucky because of the Machida decision though. Then Ryan Bader came along.

[Ludo]

Whole life had changed how, I wonder?

And yes, Forrest got blown out by Shogun, but right before that he beat Franklin easily. And before that he beat Tito via what should've been a clear UD.

Forest was talking in interviews before the fight about how getting married and having a family now made him not want to be in the gym all the time. He talked about how his life wasn't going so good when he got into fighting and now things are much better for him and he doesn't necessarily feel like he needs to fight anymore.

[SPX]

Forest was talking in interviews before the fight about how getting married and having a family now made him not want to be in the gym all the time. He talked about how his life wasn't going so good when he got into fighting and now things are much better for him and he doesn't necessarily feel like he needs to fight anymore.

That makes sense. He's been fighting for several years now anyway.

BTW, my recommendation earlier to PP stands for you as well: If you can find it in your area, go see The Raid: Redemption ASAP.

[Ludo]

That makes sense. He's been fighting for several years now anyway.

BTW, my recommendation earlier to PP stands for you as well: If you can find it in your area, go see The Raid: Redemption ASAP.

I've seen the commercials for it and it looks like some kind of modern Game of Death on a larger scale. I'll probably see it.

[poopoo333]

Yeah, no way I am betting Forrest @-295

[SPX]

I've seen the commercials for it and it looks like some kind of modern Game of Death on a larger scale. I'll probably see it.

It's rare at this point that action choreography ever WOWs me anymore, but in this movie I felt the tingle again. It's probably one of the 10 best action movies that I've seen in the last 10 years.

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/5271.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

Line is about right imo

[MMA_scientist]

I will take Maia at those odds.

[SPX]

Really? Even after Maia's last performance, I'm still not sure he should be the dog. . .

[poopoo333]

Really? Even after Maia's last performance, I'm still not sure he should be the dog. . .

Really? Pretty sure Kyle Maynard could have outstruck him that night

[SPX]

Really? Pretty sure Kyle Maynard could have outstruck him that night

Yeah, maybe. But he's still Maia. Let's look at his last handful of fights:

1. Got beat by Weidman pretty soundly, but a lot of people think Weidman is really going to turn out to be a top fighter.
2. Beat Santiago decisively.
3. Lost to Munoz in a squeaker that a lot of people think he won.
4. Beat Kendall Grove decisively.
5. Beat Mario Miranda decisively.

So while he hasn't been pulling crazy subs out of the air like he used to, the only guy he's lost to in a decisive fashion is Weidman.

[MMA_scientist]

If he decides to grapple, I think he will win. He may not be able to sub Kim though, but if Condit can sweep Kim, I have to think Maia can sweep him too. He is so afraid of losing a decision by being on bottom, that he decides to lose a decision standing. I really don't know what his deal is.

[edman5555]

kim packs some power and decent takedown defense. Anyones fight. If i had to take someone I would take Maia.

[zY|]

Stun Gun by crane kick.

[poopoo333]

So much for Brazil

https://p.twimg.com/ArQC1FNCQAAq2se.jpg

[poopoo333]

This card is stacked as fuck...

Sonnen/Silva
Cruz/Faber
Griffin/Ortiz
Le/Franklin
Bisping/Boetsch

better than UFC 100 for sure

[poopoo333]

Just threw 5u down on Sonnen @+215. I was waiting for his line to get better but I have a feeling lots of money is gonna come in on Sonnen with the venue change

[poopoo333]

"You want to know how I got into the country? I put one of these on, and they thought I was Noguiera"

https://p.twimg.com/ArQZJsoCEAIe5ZB.png

[Luke]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^::lmao::

[Luke]

And this is the end for Anderson Silva imo.

[poopoo333]

And this is the end for Anderson Silva imo.

Agreed.

[zY|]

Chael is gonna get mashed.

[poopoo333]

Chael is gonna get mashed.

Yeah, by Ronda Rousey in the bedroom after he gets done fucking Anderson Silva in the ass in the middle of the octagon at UFC 148.


btw, speaking of Chael, he is fucking huge in person, and he walked into the arena with some hot ass blonde. He is big pimpin, smellin cheese

[Luke]

Think I seen Chael was currently around 230

[poopoo333]

Think I seen Chael was currently around 230

I saw that too..232 to be exact

[Luke]

It's floating around that Anderson will make $7,000,000 for his fight w/ Chael...highest purse in #MMA (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23MMA) history

..

[SPX]

If that's true, then it's fucking crazy.

[zY|]

Like they say, "Anderson Silva money".

[poopoo333]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVu1IG2xJR0

[MMA_scientist]

What is Chael going to do if he just gets totally smashed, which he probably will? It was pretty funny when he reached for the belt though.

[poopoo333]

The snoring part had me dying

[MMA_scientist]

I will give him some credit, as he has really taken this heel thing all the way. He has pushed all his chips in.

The funny thing about him, is he failed really damn hard, and he now tries to play it off as a troll. Chael is a real life troll, but I remember him fighting in Bodog and in teh UFC the first time, and he was always kind of like this, but serious. He used to talk about how he was a republican and stuff and how he is clean cut etc... but it was all a serious attempt to sell himself then. I guess because I remember the old stuff, I really think his whole schtick is lame.

[poopoo333]

You really think Sonnen is gonna get smashed?

[Mr. IWS]

You really think Sonnen is gonna get smashed?

this shit is gonna be Roy Jones Jr. Vs. Montell Griffen

[MMA_scientist]

You really think Sonnen is gonna get smashed?

I don't think he will win. I don't think he will make it to the bell... whether he gets knocked out or submitted, not sure. I will say that Anderson's gas tank is not the best, and Chael does not seem to tire. So if manages to survive 2 rounds, he could win.

[Luke]

I will give him some credit, as he has really taken this heel thing all the way. He has pushed all his chips in.

The funny thing about him, is he failed really damn hard, and he now tries to play it off as a troll. Chael is a real life troll, but I remember him fighting in Bodog and in teh UFC the first time, and he was always kind of like this, but serious. He used to talk about how he was a republican and stuff and how he is clean cut etc... but it was all a serious attempt to sell himself then. I guess because I remember the old stuff, I really think his whole schtick is lame.

Is sideloaded posting here again?
You think this :


Sonnen won each of the first four rounds on all of the judges' scorecards, with the scores heading into the fifth round being 40–34, 40–35, and 40–36

Is failing really damn hard,come on!

The guy had was given three 10-8 rounds on the judges scores cards against someone who was considered unbeatable? He was two minutes away from beating the guy who many consider the greatest mixed martial arts of all-time. He was tired and got caught at the end,simple as that.

Failed real hard,BOL!

[Luke]

this shit is gonna be Roy Jones Jr. Vs. Montell Griffen

Roy Jones wasn't 38 when he fought Griffin,speed is almost gone by that age. We all know what Roy was doing at 38

[poopoo333]

Yeah, Sonnen is gonna merk that prissy little metrosexual.

Luke, wanna put 20u on Sonnen with me?

[Luke]

Yeah, Sonnen is gonna merk that prissy little metrosexual.

Luke, wanna put 20u on Sonnen with me?

Bol,no. I am considering 10 though.

[poopoo333]

Bol,no. I am considering 10 though.

I got 5 right now, dunno if I will go 10 but maybe. I am gonna go 10 on Cormier though, too bad he isn't +220

[MMA_scientist]

with regard to Sonnen's failing hard, I wasn't talking about the fight. I was talking about him running for office and then becoming a real estate agent, then getting busted for money laundering, getting suspended, losing the fight, testing positive for PEDs, then going on TV and talking about how his balls never dropped.

I just meant that he basically had no choice but to play his whole idiotic existence off as a pro wrestling heel.

Also, Silva was hurt and Sonnen gave up with 2 minutes left in the fights. Renzo would have just let that shit snap like a man.

[Luke]

with regard to Sonnen's failing hard, I wasn't talking about the fight. I was talking about him running for office and then becoming a real estate agent, then getting busted for money laundering, getting suspended, losing the fight, testing positive for PEDs, then going on TV and talking about how his balls never dropped.

I just meant that he basically had no choice but to play his whole idiotic existence off as a pro wrestling heel.


Thanks for clearing that up. I personally pay zero attention to what fighters do outside the cage so assumed you were talking about the fight.


Also, Silva was hurt and Sonnen gave up with 2 minutes left in the fights. Renzo would have just let that shit snap like a man.

Renzo would never been in a freaking championship fight to begin with,that fucker couldn't be the champ of the Kings of Leon(or whatever that org. is)

Silva was hurt............sure,sure. That's why it took him 2 years and 7 million dollars to finally agree to a rematch,not because he was thoroughly dominated the first time and wanted to secure a huge payday before being cast from his throne forever.

[SPX]

Renzo would have just let that shit snap like a man.

Yes, that is what men do . . . instead of tapping and losing they allow themselves to get badly injured before losing anyway.

[Luke]

Yes, that is what men do . . . instead of tapping and losing they allow themselves to get badly injured before losing anyway.


Sounds like more of something a caveman would do.

[MMA_scientist]

Sonnen could have survived IMO. If ever there was a time to fight to the end, that was it, that is all I am saying.

[poopoo333]

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/andersons-weight-bf-source-2077367/

[MMA_scientist]

Anderson doesn't have no 19% body fat.

[Luke]

Sonnen could have survived IMO. If ever there was a time to fight to the end, that was it, that is all I am saying.

I agree with that. With the title on the line and less than two minutes remaining I would have passed out first before tapping. Chael said he tapped from the choke not the armbar,but I'd still tap rather than have my arm broke no matter what the circumstances were.

[Mr. IWS]

Roy Jones wasn't 38 when he fought Griffin,speed is almost gone by that age. We all know what Roy was doing at 38

I was speaking more about how people thought Griffin had Jones number, and was gonna beat him.

Im still mad RJJ "Jonesed" us losing to that White guy a couple years ago.

[MMA_scientist]

I agree with that. With the title on the line and less than two minutes remaining I would have passed out first before tapping. Chael said he tapped from the choke not the armbar,but I'd still tap rather than have my arm broke no matter what the circumstances were.

Oh, see I just figured he tapped to the armbar, because no self respecting man would tap to a choke in that circumstance. Hell, plenty of guys don't tap to a choke in a local grappling tourney. Nothing bad happens when you go to sleep, I hear you might shit your pants, but I have seen hundreds of guys fall asleep in practice and nothing ever happens except they wake up and deny they were out.

I tap to a joint lock regadless if I know I am stuck. But it didn't look fully locked to me, and now that you say he tapped to the choke, that makes sense. Tapping to a choke though, there is really no reason to do it, especially in a title fight. Fight it all the way to naptown.

[poopoo333]

So do you guys think Sonnen wins ITD this time?

[Luke]

So do you guys think Sonnen wins ITD this time?

I think he wins by decision

[Luke]

I was speaking more about how people thought Griffin had Jones number, and was gonna beat him.

Im still mad RJJ "Jonesed" us losing to that White guy a couple years ago.


Good old Montel Griffin, going from beating a prime Roy Jones through 8 rounds to a gatekeeper in boxing...........what a life fail!

[Luke]

Oh, see I just figured he tapped to the armbar, because no self respecting man would tap to a choke in that circumstance. Hell, plenty of guys don't tap to a choke in a local grappling tourney. Nothing bad happens when you go to sleep, I hear you might shit your pants, but I have seen hundreds of guys fall asleep in practice and nothing ever happens except they wake up and deny they were out.

I tap to a joint lock regadless if I know I am stuck. But it didn't look fully locked to me, and now that you say he tapped to the choke, that makes sense. Tapping to a choke though, there is really no reason to do it, especially in a title fight. Fight it all the way to naptown.


Yeah,my ass would have went to shitmypantsville during a title fight,not really sure why he admitted doing that. I guess most people don't give it a second thought.




BTW, edmann

[SPX]

Anderson doesn't have no 19% body fat.

He may in between fights. He's not even that ripped on fight night and he definitely doesn't look that ripped in those pics.

[Luke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZG0sNDa2JQ&list=UU_ioj2XXQNHIzLfOkCe5ORA& index=5&feature=plcp


again for poopoo.

This will be the first PPV I've bought in years

[edman5555]

Just found something interesting while researching. Demian maia was definetely sick for the weidman fight. I watched a video posted 4 days before the weidman fight and he was sneazing and sniffling pretty bad. That explains his gassing. I think he probably would have won that fighht if he was healthy.

[Ludo]

Just found something interesting while researching. Demian maia was definetely sick for the weidman fight. I watched a video posted 4 days before the weidman fight and he was sneazing and sniffling pretty bad. That explains his gassing. I think he probably would have won that fighht if he was healthy.

He wouldn't have won that fight with a head start and a loaded glove. Even if he hadn't gassed as quickly he still would have gassed at some point. Weidman always had the out with takedowns and I think he's just scrappy enough on the ground to survive Maia's bottom game via top control.

[Luke]

Just found something interesting while researching. Demian maia was definetely sick for the weidman fight. I watched a video posted 4 days before the weidman fight and he was sneazing and sniffling pretty bad. That explains his gassing. I think he probably would have won that fighht if he was healthy.


::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::::lmao:::: lmao::::lmao::

[MMA_scientist]

Maia = undefeated

Marquart- early stoppage

Anderson Silva- Late notice and Silva ran away, otherwise Maia would have won

Munoz- gor screwed on the decision

Weidman- sick


Maia will be champ.

[Ludo]

Maia = undefeated

Marquart- early stoppage

Anderson Silva- Late notice and Silva ran away, otherwise Maia would have won

Munoz- gor screwed on the decision

Weidman- sick


Maia will be champ.

I agree he should have won the decision against Munoz.

[SPX]

Maia = undefeated

Marquart- early stoppage

Anderson Silva- Late notice and Silva ran away, otherwise Maia would have won

Munoz- gor screwed on the decision

Weidman- sick


Maia will be champ.


Fuckin' BOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Lulzord.

[edman5555]

::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::::lmao::::lmao:::: lmao::::lmao::

Oh please he was doing well and weidman gassed because he took a short notice fight. If maia was not sick he would not have looked like a walking corpse in that fight.

[Ludo]

Oh please he was doing well and weidman gassed because he took a short notice fight. If maia was not sick he would not have looked like a walking corpse in that fight.

He didn't win a single round in that fight. You're saying had he not been sick he would have taken two rounds? I don't buy it.

[Vandelay]

both rounds 1 and 2 were pretty damn close. Weidman was done after rd 2. Unfortunately so was maia.

[edman5555]

The scor was three 29 28 's so i am correct. Had maia not been sick and gassed he probably would have won.

[Luke]

The scor was three 29 28 's so i am correct. Had maia not been sick and gassed he probably would have won.

Well by IF Weidman didnt have to cut 30+ pounds in 10 days he wouldnt have gassed............and still won.

[edman5555]

Well by IF Weidman didnt have to cut 30+ pounds in 10 days he wouldnt have gassed............and still won.

True. But he DID have to cut 30 pounds. That said it was a close fight. Weidman is a really bad matchup for maia and i think that one can always go either way.

[poopoo333]

Weidman/Maia rematch; both at 100%. Weidman would still win.

[Luke]

Weidman/Maia rematch; both at 100%. Weidman would still win.

repped.

Oh course its never going to happen because pussy Maia ran out of the division to fight little guys.

[Ludo]

The scor was three 29 28 's so i am correct. Had maia not been sick and gassed he probably would have won.

http://mmadecisions.com/decision.jsp?id=3282

The score was two 29-28's and a 30-27, all for Weidman, with EVERY major media outlet scoring it 30-27 in favor of Weidman. You're wrong.

[Ludo]

True. But he DID have to cut 30 pounds. That said it was a close fight. Weidman is a really bad matchup for maia and i think that one can always go either way.

How can it go either way if Weidman is a really bad matchup for Maia?

[edman5555]

In can obviously go either way..they are both really good. Weidman is a bad matchup because he has good wrestling and JJ defense. That does not mean he wins the fight every time. Bottom line, the fight was really close. It can go either way.

[MMA_scientist]

It definitely was not a blow out like everyone here is suggesting. Maia was on the wrong end of most of the exchanges, but if they fought again, I think Maia could win. I bet him last time @ +120 or so, and I would probably bet him again at + odds.

[SPX]

I thought it was a clear win for Weidman, but not a blowout. It's not like Maia just got totally dominated and, if in fact he was sick, then a healthy Maia could potentially get it done.

[Ludo]

In this fantastical hypothetical scenario where IF Maia wasn't sick he "probably" would have won it would be hard not to add in that if Weidman hadn't had to cut 30+ pounds in 10 days then he wouldn't have gassed at all. If both of them are 100% healthy Weidman still wins. Maia's striking actually regressed in that fight. He threw like 3 kicks through 15 minutes, and was pretty much limiting himself to the right hand jab and straight left following it. Weidman didn't drop him with strikes or anything but it was very clear who was winning those rounds.

[SPX]

I don't remember anyone said that Maia WOULD have won, but only that the fight was close and Maia would've done better.

As for his striking, I agree that it regressed, but IF he was sick what else would you expect but a lackluster performance in all areas?

[MMA_scientist]

Maia has regressed as a fighter as a whole IMO. But his striking looked worse than usual against Weidman... his cardio has never been good. I think with a different gameplan, Maia could win. If he fought the same fight healthy, he would lose again.

[poopoo333]

I don't even think Maia could outstrike edman

[Ludo]

I don't remember anyone said that Maia WOULD have won, but only that the fight was close and Maia would've done better.


I think he probably would have won that fighht if he was healthy.


The scor was three 29 28 's so i am correct. Had maia not been sick and gassed he probably would have won.

Checkmate.

[edman5555]

You cant get checkmate in a hypothetical situation.

[Ludo]

You can get checkmate in hypothetical chess. You didn't say Maia "may" have won, you said he probably would have won. Just like how we say Palhares probably beats Belcher, or Bigfoot probably beats Roy Nelson. If Maia had unlimited energy and health through way of Game Genie he still loses with the gameplan he had 10 of 10 times.

[Luke]

I'd lay 10 units on Weidman at -200 in the rematch

[Luke]

I don't even think Maia could outstrike edman

::lmao::















::popcorn::

[SPX]

Checkmate.

He said PROBABLY would've won.

[edman5555]

He said PROBABLY would've won.

Yeah i did say probably. I didnt speak in absolutes. To say weidman would definetly win 10 out of 10 times is silly. Maias gameplan was unusually shitty, he kept swinging for the fences. I happen to think that he probably knew he might gas so he went for the big swings. I could be wrong but that has been my thougts since this debate had started. I left that out before.

[Ludo]

I said he loses with that gameplan 10 of every 10 times because he lost handily in a situation where apparently neither party was at optimal condition. In optimal conditions Weidman is still faster, still has better footwork, still has better combinations and more varied striking, still has better takedowns, and still gets the better of those exchanges.

[edman5555]

Silly.

[Ludo]

Silly is thinking that a gameplan that revolves around spamming a right jab/straight left combo for fifteen minutes is going to win him a fight regardless of what kind of cardio he has, whether he's sick or taking ten minutes to sit by a gatorade cooler between rounds, is going to win him a fight against Weidman.

[poopoo333]

So is Maia gonna lose to Kim? Or is he fighting Weidman now?

[Luke]

So is Maia gonna lose to Kim? Or is he fighting Weidman now?


I think he loses to both

[edman5555]

I wonder what happens to him with kim. I agree that his gameplan was silly Ludo. I just wonder if it had anything to do with him being in some kind of desperation mode because of his illness/cardio. I was dissappointed in him for his gameplan. That said, he would probably do something different the second time around if there was one, which there probably won't be.


Kim, maia. I don't know what happens there. I wonder what maia will be like at 170. I would think he would be invigorated because of the fresh new start but what is he hoping for long term??? GSP??? Good luck getting him down. Dong is pretty good but not overwhelmingly good. His standup plus takedown defense are solid but Maia might be able to get around those. One thing that pops in my head is Maia gassing and catching a big DHK stun gun punch in the later rounds. It could happen. That said, I'll take Maia at +odds. I still think he is really good.

[poopoo333]

Main card

Middleweight Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_champions#Middleweight_Championship) bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) Anderson Silva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Silva) (c) vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Chael Sonnen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chael_Sonnen)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_148#cite_note-UFC_148-0)
Bantamweight Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_champions#Bantamweight_Championship) bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Dominick Cruz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominick_Cruz) (c) vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Urijah Faber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urijah_Faber)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_148#cite_note-UFC_148-0)
Light Heavyweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Forrest Griffin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_Griffin) vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Tito Ortiz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tito_Ortiz)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_148#cite_note-UFC_148-0)
Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Rich Franklin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Franklin) vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Flag_of_South_Vietnam.svg/22px-Flag_of_South_Vietnam.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Vietnam) Cung Le (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cung_Le)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_148#cite_note-UFC_148-0)
Welterweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) Demian Maia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demian_Maia) vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Flag_of_South_Korea.svg/22px-Flag_of_South_Korea.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea) Dong Hyun Kim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_Hyun_Kim)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_148#cite_note-UFC_148-0)

Preliminary card

Bantamweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) Renan Barão (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renan_Bar%C3%A3o) vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Flag_of_El_Salvador.svg/22px-Flag_of_El_Salvador.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Salvador) Ivan Menjivar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Menjivar)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_148#cite_note-UFC_148-0)
Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) Gleison Tibau (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleison_Tibau) vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f3/Flag_of_Russia.svg/22px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia) Khabib Nurmagomedov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabib_Nurmagomedov)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_148#cite_note-UFC_148-0)
Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Flag_of_Cyprus.svg/22px-Flag_of_Cyprus.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus) Constantinos Philippou (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinos_Philippou) vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Flag_of_Japan.svg/22px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) Riki Fukuda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riki_Fukuda)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_148#cite_note-UFC_148-0)
Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Melvin Guillard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melvin_Guillard) vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) FabrÃ*cio Camões (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabr%C3%ADcio_Cam%C3%B5es)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_148#cite_note-UFC_148-0)

[poopoo333]

Tito should be the underdog to anybody in the LHW division, but +250? Come on son...2 split decisions in their last 2 fights. Tito was able to get Forrest down @ UFC 106 and bust him up a bit. Tito wants to go out on a win, Forrest just wants to stop fighting so it seems like.

[edman5555]

Tito should be the underdog to anybody in the LHW division, but +250? Come on son...2 split decisions in their last 2 fights. Tito was able to get Forrest down @ UFC 106 and bust him up a bit. Tito wants to go out on a win, Forrest just wants to stop fighting so it seems like.

Yeah I tend to agree with that. I think Tito can take this. He has done well against Forrest not counting his gasfest rounds. I think Tito should show up in shape for these. That said, I think he wins. Forrest doesn't have Ko power and Tito is tough to submit. Wrestling the remainder. Tito can definetly take this. Shitty line IMO. TITO OR NOTHING.

[Ludo]

I'm not quite sold on Tito's ability to win here but Forrest has talked about the reasons he got into the sport and how his life has pretty much become the opposite of what it was when he started fighting. Based purely on the odds I'd agree it's Tito or nothing here.

[sbjj]

I actually think Tito/Forrest should be close to even. maybe Tito @ +140 or so. if Tito actually shows up in shape I think it will be real close.

[sbjj]

I also think Le has value. Even though I hate him.

[SPX]

Le has value, I think. But I do figure Franklin will find a way to win.

As for Tito, I figure it will look like most other Tito fights, where he does pretty well in round one but then steadily declines after that. By the third, he'll be a punching bag, which is exactly what happened in Tito/Forrest II.

[edman5555]

I'm not quite sold on Tito's ability to win here but Forrest has talked about the reasons he got into the sport and how his life has pretty much become the opposite of what it was when he started fighting. Based purely on the odds I'd agree it's Tito or nothing here.

It depends on what Tito shows up. IF he is in shape, he can definetly win this fight. Who knows how he is doing physically though. He is a total oddball. He is also damaged as fuck physically. He has proven he has no problem showing up completely out of shape as well. Forrest on the other hand is well rounded and always in shape.

[SPX]

When in recent history has Tito shown up "in shape?" He gasses EVERY time . . . as long as he doesn't get stopped.

And don't say the Bader fight because it only lasted about 12 seconds.

[Luke]

Tito is always in shape,he's just old and his body can't take it any longer.

[edman5555]

Tito is always in shape,he's just old and his body can't take it any longer.

This is what i think, more or less. He has had so many injuries and surgeries that he can barely train anymore. His somewhat regular schedule as of late makes me wonder if his cardio might hold.

[poopoo333]

Reading Cruz tore his ACL

[SPX]

If that's true, then that is fucking gay.

[poopoo333]

It's true.

[Luke]

It's true.

then its gay

[zY|]

Definitely gay.

[poopoo333]

John Alessio Meets Shane Roller at UFC 148
'
..

[SPX]

That's a pretty good match up. Hope Alessio takes it.

[edman5555]

Cung probably does have some solid value against franklin. He is prob the better striker and he has good wrestling. I feel like tito forrest is even. Dogs.

[poopoo333]

Shane Roller is a flake, I hope he loses. He just does not win when I bet on him. Ever.

[poopoo333]

Looks like we will be seeing Barao/Faber

[Vandelay]

I like Barao to win that one.

[SPX]

Looks like we will be seeing Barao/Faber

War Faber

[poopoo333]

I like Barao to win that one.

Me too...wonder what the line will be

[poopoo333]

Chad Mendes vs Cody Mckenzie added

[MMA_scientist]

I would love it so much if McKenzie beat Mendes. Almost no possibility of it happening, but would be awesome.

[SPX]

I would love it so much if McKenzie beat Mendes. Almost no possibility of it happening, but would be awesome.

Why is that? I've never taken you as a McKenzie fan. Or a Mendes hater, for that matter.

[poopoo333]

This matchmaking makes no sense. #2 FW vs...unranked LW making his FW debut.

[MMA_scientist]

Why is that? I've never taken you as a McKenzie fan. Or a Mendes hater, for that matter.

I like McKenzie and I can't stand Mendes. McKenzie is hilarious and Mendes is a lnp artist with an obnoxious face.

[SPX]

Oh, I see.

[MMA_scientist]

yeah, I usually point out that McKenzie is not a good fighter, which he isn't... but I do get a kick out of his attitude and style. Mendes is a good fighter, but I dislike his fighting style and his face annoys me for no reason.

[poopoo333]

https://p.twimg.com/AtOjMj0CQAA7Zm5.jpg

[poopoo333]

yeah, I usually point out that McKenzie is not a good fighter, which he isn't... but I do get a kick out of his attitude and style. Mendes is a good fighter, but I dislike his fighting style and his face annoys me for no reason.

http://i54.tinypic.com/24np2qb.jpg

[Mr. IWS]

^^^^^^^^^^^LOL

[poopoo333]

Chael Sonnen granted therapeutic use exemption for TRT for his upcoming fight at UFC 148 against Anderson Silva

....

[SPX]

Finally, Silva's reign shall come to an end. . .

[poopoo333]

Should I up my Sonnen bet to 10u?

[poopoo333]

Chael Sonnen vs Anderson Silva - 5 rounds - UFC 148 propositions


Sat 7/7

1003 Sonnen/Silva goes 5 round distance

+200





11:59PM

1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance

-280





Sat 7/7

1005 Sonnen wins inside distance

+397





11:59PM

1006 Not Sonnen inside distance

-597





Sat 7/7

1007 Sonnen wins by 5 round decision

+475





11:59PM

1008 Not Sonnen by 5 round decision

-825





Sat 7/7

1009 Silva wins inside distance

-137





11:59PM

1010 Not Silva inside distance

-103





Sat 7/7

1011 Silva wins by 5 round decision

+425





11:59PM

1012 Not Silva by 5 round decision

-675





Sat 7/7

1013 Sonnen/Silva draw

+8000





11:59PM

1014 Fight not a draw

-21500

[poopoo333]

Is it just me or is Not Anderson Silva by decision @-675 magic parlay worthy?

[SPX]

I definitely would not take that shit. Silva has gone to a decision, but still won, plenty of times.

I mean, Carwin/JDS wasn't going to a decision either, was it?

[poopoo333]

I definitely would not take that shit. Silva has gone to a decision, but still won, plenty of times.

I mean, Carwin/JDS wasn't going to a decision either, was it?

In the UFC he has only gone to decision twice and won, against Leites and Maia. But that has nothing to do with this fight. How is Silva going to win a decision against Sonnen? You really think Silva is going to stuff Sonnen's takedowns and just out strike him without getting the stoppage? This fight is either: Sonnen by decision/finish or Silva by finish imo.

And if anybody refers to the Bisping/Sonnen fight, Bisping's T3D > Silva's T3D

[SPX]

Silva probably would've gone to a decision against Frenchy as well without the freak injury ending the fight.

I'm just saying that -675 on a prop like that is dumb, regardless of whether it wins or loses.

[poopoo333]

Yeah, but definitely parlay worthy.

[SPX]

It only takes one bad bet to kill it.

[Svino]

I really like the +475 line on Sonnen by Dec.

[poopoo333]

I really like the +475 line on Sonnen by Dec.

I do as well, but Chael P Sonnen is going to submit Anderson Silva.

[SPX]

Via banana split, hopefully.

[edman5555]

Sonnen vs Silva. I favor Silva because he can finiish the fight. Sonnen has to win via decision. No bet for me.

[poopoo333]

Was hoping the line would be opposite of what it is now. Oh well

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/5469.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[Mr. IWS]

Pegado is gonna fuckin smash Faber.

[edman5555]

Faber could pull it out

[poopoo333]

Faber could pull it out

Barao is the one who is going to have to pull out after he is done literally fucking Faber in the ass in the middle of the cage.

[SPX]

Faber at +140? Sold.

[Luke]

Faber to 125lb after getting hulk smashed

[poopoo333]

Faber to 125lb after getting hulk smashed

BUT DUDE, HE IS THE CALIFORNIA KID!

[Mr. IWS]

Faber to 125lb after getting hulk smashed

http://sideshowsito.com/hulk_smash_loki.gif

[poopoo333]

http://www.obscureathon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/SexyUnicornGuy.jpg

[SPX]

Faber to 125lb after getting hulk smashed

You're crazy as shit. Faber may not win, but it's going to be close.

[SPX]

http://ficdn.fashionindie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/ExterfaceUnicorn-7--550x351.jpg

[poopoo333]

::jaydrop::

[Mr. IWS]

I wish I could laugh like Bob Sapp

[Luke]

the gayness level in here just hit 11 on a 10 point scale

[poopoo333]

I wish I could laugh like Bob Sapp

lmfao

[Luke]

You're crazy as shit. Faber may not win, but it's going to be close.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txlXcJDtDwM

.........................

[SPX]

Pure foolishness.

[poopoo333]

So when Barao annihilates Faber with ease, do you guys think he will beat Cruz when he gets back?

[MMA_scientist]

I got Faber winning.

[edman5555]

Yeah I don't see why Barao is such a lock. Faber can probably take him down.

[Luke]

Yeah I don't see why Barao is such a lock. Faber can probably take him down.

You mean just like D-1 wrestler Scott Jorgensen did?

[SPX]

Faber's better than Jorgensen in all regards.

Speaking of D-1 wrestlers, how many times did Brock get Overeem down? Does that mean Overeem can't be stopped by a higher-level opponent?

[edman5555]

You mean just like D-1 wrestler Scott Jorgensen did?

I know what you mean, I almost mentioned it. I just looked up Jorgensens wiki page and he was a very good D1 wrestler at that. I think that Faber has better striking and better submissions though. I also think he is faster. That could make the difference. Another thing, Faber and Scott both fought Dominic Cruz. I think Faber did a lot better against him. He almost won IMO. The reason is because of Fabers overall ability to mix it up.

[Luke]

Faber's better than Jorgensen in all regards.

Speaking of D-1 wrestlers, how many times did Brock get Overeem down? Does that mean Overeem can't be stopped by a higher-level opponent?

That fight lasted 2 minutes with Brock going for one half-ass TD.......not a great example.

[SPX]

You only perceive it as a half-assed takedown because Overeem shrugged it off so easily.

[poopoo333]

Jorgensen would beat Faber 50-45 in a 5 round fight.

[SPX]

Okay, now we know you're trolling.

[Luke]

You only perceive it as a half-assed takedown because Overeem shrugged it off so easily.

Someone post the video.....it was half-assed

[SPX]

I bet Cain's TD attempt on JDS was also half-assed. . .

[poopoo333]

Someone post the video.....it was half-assed

There are no videos. Nobody films half assed takedowns.

[edman5555]

www.halfasstakedowninstititute.com

Click it.

[poopoo333]

::thumbup::

[Svino]

You only perceive it as a half-assed takedown because Overeem shrugged it off so easily.

Well... I'd say 60%-assed at most. Because of the camera angle, one thing I didn't notice right away about that TD attempt is that what made Brock give up the attempt was that Overeem started to grab a guillotine. Avoiding Overeem's nasty guillotine was definitely on Lesnar's mind.

[MMA_scientist]

Faber is better than Jorgenson. C'mon now. Faber has taken down better guys in MMA and he has better hands and submissions. Barao may win here, but I think Faber will get it done via decision. He will probably lose round 1 though, because Barao probably is more skilled overall.

[Luke]

He will probably lose round 1 though, because Barao probably is more skilled overall.

Why wouldnt he win rds 2,3,4 and 5 then?

[MMA_scientist]

Why wouldnt he win rds 2,3,4 and 5 then?

You are right,Faber is going to lose.

[poopoo333]

Ok, let's stop talking about the midgets. Let's talk about the fight that matters on this card. Chael Sonnen vs Anderson Silva, counting down the days until Silva is retired



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQq6wB6-ung&feature=player_embedded#!

[SPX]

BOL

Can't wait for that fight.

WAR CHAEL P. SONNEN

[poopoo333]

He is going to make me so rich.

[SPX]

Sucks we still have more than a month to go.

[poopoo333]

Hate to say it, but I really think my Dad is worth a bet @+300 here.

[poopoo333]

Report: Anderson Silva Injured, But Is 'Optimistic About His Recovery' (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/5/28/3048692/ufc-148-report-anderson-silva-injured-sonnen-knee-mma-news)
Already making excuses.

[Mr. IWS]

Report: Anderson Silva Injured, But Is 'Optimistic About His Recovery' (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/5/28/3048692/ufc-148-report-anderson-silva-injured-sonnen-knee-mma-news)


Already making excuses.

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuu uuuuuuuu

[SPX]

Hate to say it, but I really think my Dad is worth a bet @+300 here.

I bet him immediately at +265. If he can get his cardio under control, the I think he has a shot for sure.



Report: Anderson Silva Injured, But Is 'Optimistic About His Recovery' (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/5/28/3048692/ufc-148-report-anderson-silva-injured-sonnen-knee-mma-news)


Already making excuses.

That's fucking gay.

At least there's and update saying he tweeted that he should be fine.

[poopoo333]

Yeah, if he didn't gas after a round of fighting I'd like it even more. I just think Rich Franklin may have trouble in general...he is getting "old", hasn't fought since UFC 126 (February 2011), and is cutting to middleweight for the first time in years.


Yeah, Sonnen is going to run Silva over and everybody will just say Silva was injured. Oh well.

[Luke]

Pussy Silva already preparing his with his vagina excuses.

[poopoo333]

I hope money comes in on Silva closer to fight time. If Sonnen hits +250 I am putting another 5u on him.

[poopoo333]

So since Franklin is out against Le to fight Wandy, who do you guys see fighting Le? I think Tom Lawlor, Patrick Cote (if they decide to bring him back), Ed Herman, or Yushin Okami if they take him out of the pointless fight against Luiz Cane.

[Svino]

So since Franklin is out against Le to fight Wandy, who do you guys see fighting Le? I think Tom Lawlor, Patrick Cote (if they decide to bring him back), Ed Herman, or Yushin Okami if they take him out of the pointless fight against Luiz Cane.

I think they'll be looking to put Le in with a guy who's known for being willing to "stand and bang". They're just looking to make exciting fights rather than put him in a true division ladder. I bet they would have thrown him Leben if not for the suspension.

Tough call though. Is Cantwell still around in the UFC? They could see if Le could hand him his 12th loss in a row.

[poopoo333]

Guessing they will sign Patrick Cote. They could get Leben, technically he isn't suspended by any commission, just the UFC since the UK has no testing/commission or whatever

[poopoo333]

Patrick Cote vs Cung Le....figured that

[SPX]

What's with the Cote talk? Were their rumors of him getting re-signed? I hadn't heard anything. . .

[MMA_scientist]

What's with the Cote talk? Were their rumors of him getting re-signed? I hadn't heard anything. . .

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/5/30/3054018/report-patrick-cote-returns-to-ufc-meets-cung-le-at-ufc-148

[SPX]

Yeah, but I mean y'all were talking about Cote before there was an official announcement. Or at least that was my impression.

[poopoo333]

Him and his crazy Canadian fans have been campaigning on twitter for Cote's UFC return for months. I figured this was the perfect moment to get him back.

[poopoo333]

Can't wait for this card.. lots of good match ups/betting opportunities imo

MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)

Champ Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen (for middleweight title)
Urijah Faber vs. Renan Barao (for interim bantamweight title)
Forrest Griffin vs. Tito Ortiz
Patrick Cote vs. Cung Le
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Demian Maia

PRELIMINARY CARD (FX)

Chad Mendes vs. Cody McKenzie
Khabib Nurmagomedov vs. Gleison Tibau
Mike Easton vs. Ivan Menjivar
Riki Fukuda vs. Constantinos Philippou
Fabricio Camoes vs. Melvin Guillard
John Alessio vs. Shane Roller
Yoislandy Izquierdo vs. Rafaello Oliveira*

[poopoo333]

Chael Sonnen vs Anderson Silva - 5 rounds - UFC 148 propositions


Sat 7/7

1003 Sonnen/Silva goes 5 round distance

+200





11:59PM

1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance

-280





Sat 7/7

1005 Sonnen wins inside distance

+397





11:59PM

1006 Not Sonnen inside distance

-597





Sat 7/7

1007 Sonnen wins by 5 round decision

+475





11:59PM

1008 Not Sonnen by 5 round decision

-825





Sat 7/7

1009 Silva wins inside distance

-137





11:59PM

1010 Not Silva inside distance

-103





Sat 7/7

1011 Silva wins by 5 round decision

+425





11:59PM

1012 Not Silva by 5 round decision

-675





Sat 7/7

1013 Sonnen/Silva draw

+8000





11:59PM

1014 Fight not a draw

-21500





Urijah Faber vs Renan Barão - 5 rounds - UFC 148 propositions


Sat 7/7

1103 Faber/Barão goes 5 round distance

-180





11:30PM

1104 Fight won't go 5 round distance

+140





Sat 7/7

1105 Faber wins inside distance

+429





11:30PM

1106 Not Faber inside distance

-685





Sat 7/7

1107 Faber wins by 5 round decision

+255





11:30PM

1108 Not Faber by 5 round decision

-365





Sat 7/7

1109 Barão wins inside distance

+270





11:30PM

1110 Not Barão inside distance

-390





Sat 7/7

1111 Barão wins by 5 round decision

+156





11:30PM

1112 Not Barão by 5 round decision

-197





Sat 7/7

1113 Faber/Barão draw

+6000





11:30PM

1114 Fight not a draw

-15000





Tito Ortiz vs Forrest Griffin - 3 rounds - UFC 148 propositions


Sat 7/7

1203 Ortiz/Griffin goes 3 round distance

-135





11:00PM

1204 Fight won't go 3 round distance

-105





Sat 7/7

1205 Ortiz wins inside distance

+407





11:00PM

1206 Not Ortiz inside distance

-617





Sat 7/7

1207 Ortiz wins by 3 round decision

+652





11:00PM

1208 Not Ortiz by 3 round decision

-1355





Sat 7/7

1209 Griffin wins inside distance

+191





11:00PM

1210 Not Griffin inside distance

-271





Sat 7/7

1211 Griffin wins by 3 round decision

+110





11:00PM

1212 Not Griffin by 3 round decision

-150





Sat 7/7

1213 Ortiz/Griffin draw

+6000





11:00PM

1214 Fight not a draw

-15000





Dong Hyun Kim vs Demian Maia - 3 rounds - UFC 148 propositions


Sat 7/7

1403 Kim/Maia goes 3 round distance

-245





9:30PM

1404 Fight won't go 3 round distance

+175





Sat 7/7

1405 Kim wins inside distance

+391





9:30PM

1406 Not Kim inside distance

-591





Sat 7/7

1407 Kim wins by 3 round decision

+150





9:30PM

1408 Not Kim by 3 round decision

-190





Sat 7/7

1409 Maia wins inside distance

+427





9:30PM

1410 Not Maia inside distance

-680





Sat 7/7

1411 Maia wins by 3 round decision

+197





9:30PM

1412 Not Maia by 3 round decision

-277





Sat 7/7

1413 Kim/Maia draw

+5500





9:30PM

1414 Fight not a draw

-13500

[poopoo333]

Although I like Barao in the fight, Faber by decision @+255 has "value" imo. Also, DHK by decision @+150 looks good.

And Forrest/Tito goes decision -135....is this a trap?

[SPX]

And Forrest/Tito goes decision -135....is this a trap?

That will probably cash, but they have to be considering that Tito has been getting finished twice in recent history whereas he used to almost never get finished.

[poopoo333]

I just bet it, might hit it again..it will be around -300 by fight time I am guesing. It was already up there IIRC

[poopoo333]

BREAKING: Tito Ortiz Will Be Inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame Prior to UFC 148 http://ht.ly/bx8TD (http://t.co/n4Qr89qF)


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[SPX]

I don't take the UFC Hall of Fame too seriously, but if there's going to be one, he should be in it.

[Svino]

Gotta like Sonnen by decision at +475.