UFC on Fuel 4

[poopoo333]

James Te Huna To Face Brandon Vera At UFC On Fuel 4 In July (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/4/12/2945024/ufc-on-fuel-4-james-te-huna-vs-brandon-vera-july-mma-news)

[poopoo333]

Te Huna is going to smash Vera

[SPX]

Probably so, though I certainly wouldn't count Vera out. I could see him taking Te Huna down like he did to Marshall in the first round. Also remember that Vera beat K-Sos straight up and is Te Huna really that much better of striker than K-Sos?

[poopoo333]

Mark Munoz vs. Chris Weidman Headlines UFC on Fuel 4 in July

..

[poopoo333]

Hopefully Weidman opens up around even

[Luke]

Weidman is going to smoke Munoz

[poopoo333]

Weidman is going to smoke Munoz

::moneyeye::::moneyeye::::moneyeye::::moneyeye::

[MMA_scientist]

I think that fight is extremely close. I would probably take either man at + odds. I think I lean Munoz.

[poopoo333]

Lightweight Bout: Anthony Njokuani (15-6, 1 NC) vs. Paul Taylor (11-6-1, 1 NC) set for UFC on FUEL TV 4

..Njokuani ftw

[Ludo]

Njokuani -300 or worse.

[poopoo333]

I expect SPX to come in and say Taylor has a good chance or something...this whole convo has happened before when they were originally supposed to fight.

[Luke]

I expect SPX to come in and say Taylor has a good chance or something...this whole convo has happened before when they were originally supposed to fight.

Lets just neg him now then and get it over with

[SPX]

Taylor has a chance and is an underrated fighter.

[Svino]

Te Huna has opened at +120.

[Luke]

Te Huna has opened at +120.

I can't bet either guy

[Ludo]

I can't bet either guy

Te Huna kind of sucks, so yeah I'll stay away from this fight altogether.

[poopoo333]

Vera is gonna get ktfo

[edman5555]

Te huna doesnt suck. Vera doesnt suck either.

[Ludo]

Te huna doesnt suck. Vera doesnt suck either.

I'm going to need hard evidence here.

[poopoo333]

I'm going to need hard evidence here.

Vera was more of a human instrument at UFC 125 than a fighter.

[Ludo]

Vera was more of a human instrument at UFC 125 than a fighter.

Where is the evidence that either Te Huna or Vera don't suck?

[SPX]

Why does Te Huna suck? He's 14-5 overall and 3-1 in the UFC, and he just knocked Aaron Rosa the FUCK OUT in his last fight.

His only loss in his last 9 fights is to Gustaffson. No shame there.

[poopoo333]

Why does Te Huna suck? He's 14-5 overall and 3-1 in the UFC, and he just knocked Aaron Rosa the FUCK OUT in his last fight.

His only loss in his last 9 fights is to Gustaffson. No shame there.

Gustaffson is a can. He lost to that can Phil Davis.

[Ludo]

Why does Te Huna suck? He's 14-5 overall and 3-1 in the UFC, and he just knocked Aaron Rosa the FUCK OUT in his last fight.

His only loss in his last 9 fights is to Gustaffson. No shame there.

It's not his record I'm basing this opinion off of. It's the fact that he clearly has few skills and gets by mostly on being retard strong. Not to mention his opponents haven't exactly been the kind designed to test someone who likes to stand and bang. Romero who reacts about as bad as humanly possible to being hit, the newer, lesser version of Prokajac, and Rosa who hasn't done a whole hell of a lot ever, especially at 205. When your biggest win ever is over Abe Wagner you haven't done shit.

[SPX]

I'm not saying that he will ever be champ, but I definitely also don't think he "sucks." He's fast, accurate and powerful with his striking and that's going to be enough to at least stay employed as a mid-level guy.

Vera should be better technically here but Marshall almost knocked Vera out so Te Huna can definitely do it. For all you or I know, Te Huna might just steamroll him.

[poopoo333]

Weidman is -125

[Luke]

Weidman is -125

I'll take that.

[poopoo333]

I'll take that.

Bet it..thought the line would shift. Should have waited so my $ isn't tied up forever. Bunch of not so smart people probably think Munoz is a K1 striker compared to Weidman.

[mike]

PP, u think Weidman will outstrike Munoz ? IMO Munoz has better footwork and more power, wrestling will probably cancel out. I think Munoz will take a decision. How do u see the fight go ?

[poopoo333]

PP, u think Weidman will outstrike Munoz ? IMO Munoz has better footwork and more power, wrestling will probably cancel out. I think Munoz will take a decision. How do u see the fight go ?

I think Weidman outgrapples Munoz.

[mike]

i honestly dont remember much how munoz past fights went. who beat munoz by out grappling him in the past? i have this impression of him having fast footwork, having okay offensive wrestling but good tdd and hard to keep down or submit. u think weidman will have an easy time taking munoz down? he was having problem taking sakara down in the 1st round iirc.

[MMA_scientist]

Maia beat munoz. Outstruck him imo. Munoz jas better power imo. Weidman wont be able to hold him down

[mike]

i have to watch that fight between maia and munoz again. Maia looked bad in the weidman fight but bc he gassed badly, not bc he was a lesser striker than weidman, agree?

[MMA_scientist]

I think the only time maia looked good standing was in rd 1 against munoz. I think weidman prob is a better striker than maia. Maia just isnt explosive

[mike]

weidman is learning his striking well but he isnt a fast or aggressive striker. it is a pretty close fight. Should use the live betting for this

[poopoo333]

Paul Taylor Out, Rafael Dos Anjos In Vs. Anthony Njokauni At UFC On Fuel 4 (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/5/22/3036666/ufc-on-fuel-4-rafael-dos-anjos-vs-anthony-njokauni-taylor-mma-news)
Paul Taylor dodges the bullet again

[SPX]

I like Paul Taylor and he could've won that. RDA is an interesting replacement, though.

[poopoo333]

I favor RDA for sure in this one. I think he can hang on the feet and is the better grappler.

[poopoo333]

Jon Fitch out of UFC on FUEL TV 4.

Damn.. was really interested in Fitch/Simpson. Maybe they will put Simpson in Alves spot against the Afghanistan guy @ 149. Or maybe Rory MacDonald can step in and just murder Simpson.

[poopoo333]

Joey Beltran returns to octagon, faces James Te Huna at UFC on FUEL TV 4 (http://mmajunkie.com/news/29161/joey-beltran-returns-to-octagon-faces-james-te-huna-at-ufc-on-fuel-tv-4.mma)

[SPX]

Sweet! War the Mexecutioner!

(I'm not sure he's going to win that one, though. . .)

[Luke]

Joey Beltran returns to octagon, faces James Te Huna at UFC on FUEL TV 4 (http://mmajunkie.com/news/29161/joey-beltran-returns-to-octagon-faces-james-te-huna-at-ufc-on-fuel-tv-4.mma)



Why bring this bum back?

[edman5555]

Why bring this bum back?

I guess he is dropping to 205, i saw a pic of him and he looked good. It could be intersting. Te huna will probably take him down and kill him though.

[poopoo333]

MAIN CARD (FUEL TV)

Mark Munoz vs. Chris Weidman
Joey Beltran vs. James Te Huna
Kenny Robertson vs. Aaron Simpson
Francis Carmont vs. Karlos Vemola
T.J. Dillashaw vs. Vaughan Lee
Rafael dos Anjos vs. Anthony Njokuani

PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook)

Alex Caceres vs. Damacio Page
Chris Cariaso vs. Josh Ferguson
Andrew Craig vs. Rafael Natal
Marcelo Guimaraes vs. Dan Stittgen
Raphael Assuncao vs. Issei Tamura
Tom DeBlass vs. Nick Penner

[poopoo333]

If the lines aren't shitty as shit, I like Carmont, Dillashaw, and RDA. Haven't looked at any others yet...but Dillashaw should not lose to Lee at all. He will probably be -365 or worse.

[SPX]

I like RDA, but not as any kind of sizable fave. I'd actually like to get him as a dog.

Dillashaw should win, I'd imagine. Assuncao too, probably.

[poopoo333]

Is Tamura the guy who raped that Shanghai Knight at UFC 144?

I think RDA is going to have the grappling advantage, but Njokuani showed improvements against Danny Castillo IRC..it was a split decision but I honestly didn't pay attention to the fight, I need to watch it. RDA shouldn't be totally outclassed on the feet against Njokuani, and I think Njokuani's tendency to throw lots of kicks can be dangerous against RDA as it will allow him more opportunities to get the fight to the ground.

If Carmont/Vemola gets to round 2, it will definitely be all Carmont. I said the same thing about Massenzio in his fight with Vemola, and it was looking that way, but Massenzio is fucking retarded and sucks.


Right now I have a little over 3u on Weidman @-125

[SPX]

Is Tamura the guy who raped that Shanghai Knight at UFC 144?

Yep.



I think RDA is going to have the grappling advantage, but Njokuani showed improvements against Danny Castillo IRC..it was a split decision but I honestly didn't pay attention to the fight, I need to watch it. RDA shouldn't be totally outclassed on the feet against Njokuani, and I think Njokuani's tendency to throw lots of kicks can be dangerous against RDA as it will allow him more opportunities to get the fight to the ground.

I didn't see that fight, but it seems I remember Jordan Breen saying the decision should've gone to Njokuani. I definitely think RDA can win--maybe even should win--but I don't feel confident enough in him to take him as anything but a dog.

Probably a no-play for me.



Right now I have a little over 3u on Weidman @-125

I'll either be taking Munoz as a bigger dog than he is now or staying away from this one, too.

[poopoo333]

Kind of regret going that big on Weidman but I think I will let it ride. Munoz's TDD isn't too great imo and he slows down a bit. Weidman had poor cardio against Maia, but he cut 30 lbs on short notice for that fight. I don't think Weidman gassed against Sakara.

[edman5555]

I got munoz in this one..I think his wrestling should be decent enough to stop weidman. The difference maker IMO is Munoz's power. Then again, Maia basically outstruck Munoz and Weidman basically outstruck Maia. So maybe I am wrong. Weidman can always lock on a choke or something too. I am still convinced Maia was sick for the fight btw. Tough call. If Munoz hits +150 I would take him.

[poopoo333]

Even if Maia was sick for the fight, I believe Weidman would have won. I think this will be Weidman's official coming out party and people will begin to talk about him as a title contender.

[poopoo333]

These guys are going to win; POOPOO333'S UFC ON FUEL 4 LOCKS:

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[poopoo333]

So I lost big on UFC 148...I need to clean up on this card as well as Strikeforce.

[edman5555]

Sorry PP. Good luck. We are going to kill it this next week.

[edman5555]

I think Chris Cariaso looks good. His opponent is pretty inexperienced and won most of his fights against cans using his BJJ. Cariaso is a brown belt in BJJ, they are both brown belts.

[Vandelay]

Dillashaw, Te huna, and Caraiso will probably have the highest lines.

Dill -350, Te Huna -400, Caraiso, -300

[poopoo333]

I would take a stab on Beltran if Te Huna had a steep line like that. Would love to get Carmont under -200. Dillashaw will have a steep line unfortunately...hoping it does not open at -400

[edman5555]

Why do you feel so good about Dillishaw? He is still a bit of a rookie. Lee is pretty good.

[poopoo333]

Horrible match up for Lee...TJ Dillashaw is a powerhouse wrestler and has good top control. Lee is a striker and does not have the best T3D or bottom game at all. Cariaso was able to take him down, control him, and get into dominant positions without much difficulty in round 2 and 3 of their fight.

[edman5555]

I see what your saying. I guess if Cariaso can take him down, Dillashaw should be able to. I just worry Lee could pull off a submission. Dillashaw will probably have to ride out a top control decision giving Lee plenty of time to pull off a sub. Lee is a black belt in BJJ that just tapped out Yamamoto.

[edman5555]

I would take a stab on Beltran if Te Huna had a steep line like that. Would love to get Carmont under -200. Dillashaw will have a steep line unfortunately...hoping it does not open at -400

I don't think Dillashaw will have a steep line. Lee has done better in the UFC as far as most people will be concerned. He tapped out Yamamoto and lost a split decision to a guy who is 3 and 1 in the ufc with one loss coming via split D to mike mcdonald. I would think Dillashaw would come in as a dog.

[edman5555]

I think Te Huna beats Beltran by being more well rounded. I will say it could be interesting seeing Beltran at 205 though.

Craig/Natal : No idea in this one. Craig is pretty big and I think he only beat Noke because Noke injured himself during the fight/gassed. Something was up with Noke in that one. Maybe he had an injury coming in.

Caceres/Page: Caceres has done better than I thought he would. I really can't remember any of Page's fights to be honest. By looking at his record I would think he can beat Caceres.

Sherdogs website officially sucks BTW. It always takes forever to load.

[SPX]

Page has looked pretty poor lately. I actually favor Caceres and hope he comes in as a dog. (I actually think he will be the fave, though.)

[Vandelay]

I would think Dillashaw would come in as a dog.

Thats just not happening.

[poopoo333]

Yeah Dillashaw won't and probably shouldn't even be in the -200s in this fight imo

[mike]

i made a bet on munoz a while back and regret it . will try to make a bigger bet on weidman to cover munoz bet via live betting >.<

[poopoo333]

This card is this Wednesday and we only have one line. That sucks. Going to be missing a chunk of this card as well since I work until 9.

And why is Beltran/Te Huna the co-main event when Rafael Dos Anjos and Anthony Njokuani are fighting on the card?

[edman5555]

Weidman over Munoz? What evidence makes that argument?

[poopoo333]

I contacted 5 dimes, they said the lines for this card will be up tonight. Hopefully they are the first to break them, they release some nice lines sometimes. Maybe they will give Carmont as the dog ::lmao::

[poopoo333]

Weidman over Munoz? What evidence makes that argument?

I think Weidman is a better all around grappler than Munoz. Munoz's only way to win this fight imo is to throw those big filipinobombs of fists he has and connect flush a few times to drop Weidman. Don't think Munoz can get Weidman down. I think Weidman can get Munoz down. I don't think Munoz can submit Weidman from his back. I think Weidman can submit Munoz in a scramble.

[Ludo]

Weidman over Munoz? What evidence makes that argument?

Yushin Okami.

[poopoo333]

Yushin Okami.

Fuck. Even Chris Leben was able to take him down.

[MMA_scientist]

Munoz is the man. Weidman may get him down, he won't be able to keep him there. Munoz has a solid grappling game, he is not going to get subbed. Munoz has the donkey kong fists of doom, Weidman has teh technique. Close fight IMO.

[edman5555]

Dont forget munoz has the experince advantage.

[poopoo333]

Dont forget munoz has the experince advantage.

How often does that really matter though?

[SPX]

How often does that really matter though?

Well we do see a lot of instances where a fast rising prospect meets a veteran and gets beaten. Then that prospect takes a couple of years to further learn and develop and comes back to easily beat that same guy.

I think that Hughes/GSP I was a good example of a fighter almost there, but still not QUITE ready to beat the champ.

[mike]

i think munoz striking is very basic and a bit overrated. not sure if he can last 5 rounds in a high pace fight too. weidman is less experienced but i think hes the better striker.

[MMA_scientist]

Probably going to come down to scoring a few takedowns for either guy, unless Munoz catches him with a power shot.

[edman5555]

I forgot that this is five rounds. Munoz could get tired..he also has more time to land a big punch.

[Vandelay]

I contacted 5 dimes, they said the lines for this card will be up tonight.:

I think they lied.

[poopoo333]

I think they lied.

Yeah, me too. Oddessa said he won't release them until tomorrow so maybe sportsbook/bovada will be the line breakers unfortunately

[SPX]

Did you pull everything out of your Sportsbook account?

[poopoo333]

Yeah. Probably shouldn't have done that. If Carmont or Dillashaw open up real nice I will reload there.. the lines do not move fast at that book. Don't think Dillashaw will open up at a nice price on sportsbook though.

[SPX]

I would've left something. They have a lot of good lines are breaking lot more and more often.

[poopoo333]

Paddypower released lines for Dos Anjos and Te-Huna fights. Dos ANjos was at -137.5 but now at -175 and Te Huna is at -350

..damn, was hoping RDA would be around -115

[poopoo333]

Carmont -130 on bookmaker. Hope it holds by the time 5d releases....

[poopoo333]

Dillashaw is -435 as expected

[edman5555]

Why do you like carmont so much? Vemola is pretty decent. tough jaw, pretty good wrestling, good chokes, and it seems like his bjj defense is solid.

[trotterz]

5dimes just posted their lines, and it is way better than Bookmaker for dillashaw

[poopoo333]

Edman- Vemola has a bad gas tank and does not have great defensive wrestling at all. Carmont can match him in physical attributes (maybe not visually) and beat him everywhere imo.

Trotterz...yeah, he went down to -360 there...was surprised.

I just parlayed Carmont/Dillashaw to win about 7u

[Thewisemann]

All in on RDA

[edman5555]

Edman- Vemola has a bad gas tank and does not have great defensive wrestling at all. Carmont can match him in physical attributes (maybe not visually) and beat him everywhere imo.

Trotterz...yeah, he went down to -360 there...was surprised.

I just parlayed Carmont/Dillashaw to win about 7u


I think vemola is most likely a better wrestler than carmont. I feel that is almost certain. He is probably a lot stronger as well..i would agree that carmonts striking is better. I dont know who has better brazilian jiu jitsu. I would be careful judging his takedown defense as bad based on what we have seen because he has faced some good wrestlers. Hes faced two national champion wrstlers and choked out one of them. The other was jon madsen, a heavyweight. Ive gotta disagree on that one.

Also i think the lee dillashaw fight could be close. Im not going to say lee wins but i wouldnt be shocked.

[edman5555]

Dillashaw was a solid collgiate wrestler, no doubt about that. He is with a great camp, no doubt about that. He outwrestled walel watson, no doubt about that either. Walel is also a stick figure and dillashaw only has a couple fights. Lee has a lot more experince than him. Your probably right but it seems like dillashaw is getting over valued.

[poopoo333]

I am kind of regretting playing Carmont so big. I think I should have just went big on Dillashaw.

[trotterz]

Why the fuck is 5dimes always the lattest one to post their lines.
The fights are tonight

[MMA_scientist]

5dimes has been really bad about getting lines out lately. They didn't get the props out for 148 main card until the undercard was starting.

[MMA_scientist]

Anyone think Robertson has a chance at A-train?

[MMA_scientist]

Going to bet Cariaso. Anyone parlay worthy? Thinking of Simpson. No to Dillishaw- he trains with a camp of solid fighters that are built like him, but it doesn't mean he is as good as them. Maybe he is, but I am withholding judgment for a minute there.

[MMA_scientist]

Marcelo Guimares looks like a beast, he is probably going to kill Stiittgen. Guimares is a wrestler/bjj guy. But it is first UFC fight, so who knows. He was Jungle Fight Champ though, that looks like an easy win.

edman

[poopoo333]

Anyone think Robertson has a chance at A-train?

I do not know much about Robertson. However, Simpson is 38 years old, had poor cardio already, and just cut to 170 for the first time. That could make his conditioning worse if he had a tough cut.

[MMA_scientist]

I do not know much about Robertson. However, Simpson is 38 years old, had poor cardio already, and just cut to 170 for the first time. That could make his conditioning worse if he had a tough cut.

yes. My thought is that Simpson is going to just force a stand up fight. Simpson is good though, despite his cardio issues, he did nearly beat Munoz.

[trotterz]

I tought That Robertson was really good untill he fought Pierce.

I still think that Robertson is really good but this is really a bad matchup for him.

Robertson is good when he can control the fight.
Agains't Simpson, he is probably going to get controlled instead of the opposit.
Bad matchup for him. A-Train should win that fight by avoiding the subs and controling the fight by bwwing the better wrestler/stronger/bigger man.
Robertson is too small

[poopoo333]

So what is Josh Ferguson's game? Why is Cariaso going to win besides the fact that he is a name fighter?

Assuncao/Tamura...I might bet Tamura actually, I need to watch some tape in a few.

[MMA_scientist]

Ferguson is a can. He was on TUF and he is basically a brawler. Cariaso is going to win by being better in every way. He will probably sub him, but he might pick him apart standing. IMO, there is nothin Ferguson does that Cariaso doesn't do better, faster, and smarter.

[MMA_scientist]

Just went ahead and made a small play on Guimaraes/Cariaso. I should probably have just bet more on Cariaso... but, screw it.

[edman5555]

Ive been looking at cariaso today too. He is a brown belt in bjj as is ferguson. The difference is cariaso is a very accomplished standup fighter. He has some muay thai titles and a golden gloves title in san francisco. Frankly i think he destroys ferguson.

[edman5555]

Cariaso also has a huge experince advantage when it comes to high level competition.

[edman5555]

I also think te huna will take out beltran. I think he will outwrestle him fairly easy and probably knock him out.

[edman5555]

Im going to take asuncao over timura as well. He has done really well against good competition of all kinds. Timura is very inexperienced and doesnt really have a win over someone i would consider high level.

[edman5555]

Atrain probably beats robertson unless he gasses and gets fonished. Pierce took robertson down multiple times before tkoing him. Pierce is really good though. Natal craig is hard to call, i think that can really go either way.

[trotterz]

Atrain probably beats robertson unless he gasses and gets fonished. Pierce took robertson down multiple times before tkoing him. Pierce is really good though. Natal craig is hard to call, i think that can really go either way.

I agree that Pierce is good, but IMO A-Train is a better wrestler than Pierce. So if Pierce could take robertson down multiple times, Simpsons shouldn't have any problem to do so also.

[poopoo333]

Ok yeah, Cariaso is going to win. Outgrappled Mizugaki. Kept it close on the feet and arguably beat Michael McDonald. etc etc.

[poopoo333]

Mark Munoz vs Chris Weidman - 5 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions


Wed 7/11

1003 Munoz/ Weidman goes 5 round distance

-175





10:15PM

1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance

+145





Wed 7/11

1005 Munoz wins inside distance

+375





10:15PM

1006 Not Munoz inside distance

-515





Wed 7/11

1007 Munoz wins by 5 round decision

+275





10:15PM

1008 Not Munoz by 5 round decision

-365





Wed 7/11

1009 Weidman wins inside distance

+335





10:15PM

1010 Not Weidman inside distance

-460





Wed 7/11

1011 Weidman wins by 5 round decision

+156





10:15PM

1012 Not Weidman by 5 round decision

-186





Wed 7/11

1013 Munoz/Weidman draw

+6000





10:15PM

1014 Fight not a draw

-15000





Joey Beltran vs James Te Huna - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions


Wed 7/11

1103 Beltran/Te Huna goes 3 round distance

+155





9:40PM

1104 Fight won't go 3 round distance

-185





Wed 7/11

1105 Beltran wins inside distance

+486





9:40PM

1106 Not Beltran inside distance

-857





Wed 7/11

1107 Beltran wins by 3 round decision

+620





9:40PM

1108 Not Beltran by 3 round decision

-1260





Wed 7/11

1109 Te Huna wins inside distance

-120





9:40PM

1110 Not Te Huna inside distance

-120





Wed 7/11

1111 Te Huna wins by 3 round decision

+234





9:40PM

1112 Not Te Huna by 3 round decision

-314





Wed 7/11

1113 Beltran/Te Huna draw

+8000





9:40PM

1114 Fight not a draw

-21500





Kenny Robertson vs Aaron Simpson - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions


Wed 7/11

1203 Robertson/Simpson goes 3 round distance

+150





9:15PM

1204 Fight won't go 3 round distance

-180





Wed 7/11

1205 Robertson wins inside distance

+471





9:15PM

1206 Not Robertson inside distance

-812





Wed 7/11

1207 Robertson wins by 3 round decision

+518





9:15PM

1208 Not Robertson by 3 round decision

-952





Wed 7/11

1209 Simpson wins inside distance

-115





9:15PM

1210 Not Simpson inside distance

-125





Wed 7/11

1211 Simpson wins by 3 round decision

+250





9:15PM

1212 Not Simpson by 3 round decision

-350





Wed 7/11

1213 Robertson/Simpson draw

+7500





9:15PM

1214 Fight not a draw

-20000





Karlos Vemola vs Francis Carmont - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions


Wed 7/11

1303 Vemola/Carmont goes 3 round distance

+115





8:50PM

1304 Fight won't go 3 round distance

-145





Wed 7/11

1305 Vemola wins inside distance

+332





8:50PM

1306 Not Vemola inside distance

-495





Wed 7/11

1307 Vemola wins by 3 round decision

+427





8:50PM

1308 Not Vemola by 3 round decision

-680





Wed 7/11

1309 Carmont wins inside distance

+150





8:50PM

1310 Not Carmont inside distance

-190





Wed 7/11

1311 Carmont wins by 3 round decision

+226





8:50PM

1312 Not Carmont by 3 round decision

-306





Wed 7/11

1313 Vemola/Carmont draw

+6500





8:50PM

1314 Fight not a draw

-16500





Vaughan Lee vs TJ Dillashaw - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions


Wed 7/11

1403 Lee/Dillashaw goes 3 round distance

-140





8:30PM

1404 Fight won't go 3 round distance

+110





Wed 7/11

1405 Lee wins inside distance

+540





8:30PM

1406 Not Lee inside distance

-1020





Wed 7/11

1407 Lee wins by 3 round decision

+630





8:30PM

1408 Not Lee by 3 round decision

-1290





Wed 7/11

1409 Dillashaw wins inside distance

+171





8:30PM

1410 Not Dillashaw inside distance

-232





Wed 7/11

1411 Dillashaw wins by 3 round decision

+100





8:30PM

1412 Not Dillashaw by 3 round decision

-140





Wed 7/11

1413 Lee/Dillashaw draw

+8000





8:30PM

1414 Fight not a draw

-21500





Anthony Njokuani vs Rafael Dos Anjos - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions


Wed 7/11

1503 Njokuani/Dos Anjos goes 3 round distance

+150





8:10PM

1504 Fight won't go 3 round distance

-180





Wed 7/11

1505 Njokuani wins inside distance

+289





8:10PM

1506 Not Njokuani inside distance

-409





Wed 7/11

1507 Njokuani wins by 3 round decision

+472





8:10PM

1508 Not Njokuani by 3 round decision

-815





Wed 7/11

1509 Dos Anjos wins inside distance

+130





8:10PM

1510 Not Dos Anjos inside distance

-170





Wed 7/11

1511 Dos Anjos wins by 3 round decision

+268





8:10PM

1512 Not Dos Anjos by 3 round decision

-388





Wed 7/11

1513 Njokuani/Dos Anjos draw

+6000





8:10PM

1514 Fight not a draw

-15000





Alex Caceres vs Damacio Page - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions


Wed 7/11

1603 Caceres/Pagegoes 3 round distance

-210





7:30PM

1604 Fight won't go 3 round distance

+160





Josh Ferguson vs Chris Cariaso - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions


Wed 7/11

1703 Ferguson/Cariaso goes 3 round distance

-245





7:00PM

1704 Fight won't go 3 round distance

+175





Rafael Natal vs Andrew Craig - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 4 propositions


Wed 7/11

1803 Natal/Craig goes 3 round distance

-160





6:30PM

1804 Fight won't go 3 round distance

+120

[poopoo333]

I like Simpson/Robertson fight to go the distance @+150, Simpson by decision @+250, and Njokuani/RDA goes distance +150


thoughts?

[trotterz]

I like Carmont by Decision. Vemola is really really tuff, he has never been finished.

IMO, if Carmont wins, it will probably be by decision

[trotterz]

I like Simpson/Robertson fight to go the distance @+150, Simpson by decision @+250, and Njokuani/RDA goes distance +150


thoughts?

I would be a little scared with simson/robertson. If Pierce could knock Robertson out, than Simpson sure can too. He hits like a truck.

I do like the RDA/njokuani to go 3rnd tought

[poopoo333]

I like Carmont by Decision. Vemola is really really tuff, he has never been finished.

IMO, if Carmont wins, it will probably be by decision

I do not feel comfortable with that mainly because Vemola has conditioning issues. Ronny Markes was on top not doing anything in their fight while Vemola was completely tired. Carmont tends to advance position, go for subs, and actually do some ground and pound from the top...so with a potentially gasses Vemola on his back..I can see him being finished.

[edman5555]

Does carmont have the wrestling to wear vemola out?

[MMA_scientist]

I agree that Pierce is good, but IMO A-Train is a better wrestler than Pierce. So if Pierce could take robertson down multiple times, Simpsons shouldn't have any problem to do so also.

I think Simpson is going to want to keep it standing, Robertson will want to go down to the floor and try to use his submissions

[MMA_scientist]

Ok yeah, Cariaso is going to win. Outgrappled Mizugaki. Kept it close on the feet and arguably beat Michael McDonald. etc etc.

I have been watching Cariaso ever since I lost my bet on Rafaelo Rebello to beat him. I really thought he would get subbed there, and he obviously didn't.

[SPX]

Y'all have sold me on Cariaso. 3u.

Also taking Assuncao and Caceres.

[poopoo333]

Does carmont have the wrestling to wear vemola out?...

Yes...have you seen film on him?

[edman5555]

Yeah i watched the chris camozzi fight. I had money on carmont. I watched one of his earlier fights on youtube as well. He has taken down in that foght. I read the play by play from his last fight and he was mounted.

[edman5555]

Vemola claims to have changed his workout regimen from bosybuilding oriented to more of a conditioning oriented. Seems like a no brainer to me but apparently he has to figure it out. I think 185 is his natural weight class.

[BIGDAY]

I think Weidman take care of business tonight. Have some action on him as well as a little on Page. Page's opener is where I think his line should be. Around that -150 range. So taking him at -110.

Best of luck tonight guys!!!

[MMA_scientist]

Not betting, but ftr, i think munoz will win a close decision.

[Svino]

I liked Caceres at +odds, but missed the boat. I also felt pretty good about Weidman, but that betting range is almost a forbidden-zone for me now. I frequently bet for and almost never bet against guys in the +105 to +140 range. It seems like if people think the fight is that close, it ends up being a coin-toss.

[Vandelay]

I was also on the cariaso train threw him in a rolling parlay. Ive liked him ever since he gave mcdonald an extremely tough fight.

Fight was pretty close tho. I gave cariaso the first 2 rds and third i didnt watch completely.

[Svino]

For poopoo

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/130138/2/watch-ufc:-munoz-vs-weidman-.html

[Svino]

BTW, anyone who didn't see the the Craig / Natal fight should watch it, or at least the second round. I thought that could have gotten either FotN or KOotN honors.

[SPX]

I'm going to try to download that shit today and check it out.

[Ludo]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/23531247.jpg

[edman5555]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/23531247.jpg

Classic.