UFC on FX 6

[poopoo333]

UFC on FX 6 Update: ‘TUF Australia vs. U.K.’ Coaches Pearson, Sotiropoulos Meet on Dec. 15 (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC-on-FX-6-Update-TUF-Australia-vs-UK-Coaches-Pearson-Sotiropoulos-Meet-on-Dec-15-45499)

UFC on FX 6 Headed to Australia with Middleweights Hector Lombard, Rousimar Palhares (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC-on-FX-6-Headed-to-Australia-with-Middleweights-Hector-Lombard-Rousimar-Palhares-45469)

[SPX]

Lombard vs Palhares is VERY interesting. You know Palhares . . . he won't follow Boetsch's gameplan. He's going to go after Lombard for better or worse.

[Ludo]

Lombard vs Palhares is VERY interesting. You know Palhares . . . he won't follow Boetsch's gameplan. He's going to go after Lombard for better or worse.

He'll go after the takedown for better or worse. No way he tries to stand with Lombard. Dan Miller almost knocked him out when they fought. Lombard will put that window licking retard into a coma.

[mike]

odds r out for these fights. put 4u on Pearson at +115.

lombard -260, palhares +200, gsot -145, pearson +155 for p

[Luke]

thought lombardi was going to 170, da fuk?

[poopoo333]

Lombard is going to lose again. He is a can.

[SPX]

I'm actually surprised his line is so high after losing to Boetsch.

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/594.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

Card so far:



Main Card (FX)


Weight Class



Method
Round
Time
Notes


Lightweight
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b9/Flag_of_Australia.svg/22px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia) George Sotiropoulos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Sotiropoulos)
vs
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/22px-Flag_of_England.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England) Ross Pearson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Pearson)






Middleweight
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Flag_of_Cuba.svg/22px-Flag_of_Cuba.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba) Hector Lombard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector_Lombard)
vs
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) Rousimar Palhares (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousimar_Palhares)






Welterweight
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b9/Flag_of_Australia.svg/22px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia) Kyle Noke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Noke)
vs
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Seth Baczynski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Baczynski)






Featherweight
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Chad Mendes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Mendes)
vs
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) Hacran Dias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacran_Dias)






Preliminary Card


Light Heavyweight
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b9/Flag_of_Australia.svg/22px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia) Anthony Perosh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Perosh)
vs
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Joey Beltran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Beltran)






Light Heavyweight
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/12/Flag_of_Poland.svg/22px-Flag_of_Poland.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland) Krzysztof Soszynski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_Soszynski)
vs
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) Ednaldo Oliveira (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ednaldo_Oliveira)

[SPX]

I think Palhares is worth a play at that line.

Perosh/Beltran should be interesting. I respect Perosh for being all old and shit but I hope he gets Mexicuted.

[poopoo333]

I think Palhares is worth a play at that line.

Perosh/Beltran should be interesting. I respect Perosh for being all old and shit but I hope he gets Mexicuted.

I agree.

It is very interesting...can Perosh get Beltran down? If so...I like Perosh here.

[SPX]

I have my doubts that he can. I think Beltran has actually demonstrated some pretty decent T3D and on the feet I lean toward him simply outworking Perosh.

At an even line or perhaps as a VERY slight favorite I'd probably bet Beltran.

[Ludo]

I'm actually surprised his line is so high after losing to Boetsch.

Palhares' striking, while varied and powerful, isn't very good overall. Hector probably blitzes him and fucks his shit up early on. Palhares' whole game gets kind of dodgy when he gets hit.

[SPX]

I wouldn't be shocked to see Palhares just take him down and give him the leg lock special. Sometimes people act like Fidel Castro just can't be taken down. I don't get that.

[SPX]

BTW, I thought Beltran got cut. . .

[poopoo333]

BTW, I thought Beltran got cut. . .

Remember they brought him back to fight James Te Huna at 205 on short notice? Beltran almost died.

[SPX]

I thought that's when he got cut.

[poopoo333]

No, he got cut after getting killed by Lavar Johnson. Then he went and cut to 205 on the regional circuit and got called back up

[SPX]

Okay. Well I hope he wins. Let's go Gracie Killer!!!!!!!

[Ludo]

I wouldn't be shocked to see Palhares just take him down and give him the leg lock special. Sometimes people act like Fidel Castro just can't be taken down. I don't get that.

Because his judo base makes him very difficult to unbalance. Palhares' takedowns aren't really anything special either. He mostly just ties guys up and goes for the trip/throw. That shit isn't going to work with Lombard.

[mike]

who's gonna win a possible 3 round striking battle? I dont know much about Lombard. he seems very explosive and has fast hands but lazy, not throwing enough strikes. He's more of a counterpuncher while Palhares is more active but doesnt have a good gas tank. at +200, i like Palhares.

[poopoo333]

Yeah it's a tough fight to call imo. I guess if I had to bet, +200 for Palhares would be my play

[poopoo333]

Ross Pearson vs George Sotiropoulos - 3 rounds - UFC on FX 6 Finale propositions


Sat 12/15

1003 Pearson/Sotiropoulos goes 3 rnd distance

-190





10:30PM

1004 Fight won't go 3 round distance

+150





Rousimar Palhares vs Hector Lombard - 3 rounds - UFC on FX 6 Finale propositions


Sat 12/15

1103 Palhares/Lombard goes 3 round distance

+170





10:00PM

1104 Fight won't go 3 round distance

-230

[SPX]

Because his judo base makes him very difficult to unbalance. Palhares' takedowns aren't really anything special either. He mostly just ties guys up and goes for the trip/throw. That shit isn't going to work with Lombard.

War Judo. It's awesome. I love the shit. But think about how he quickly he got Massenzio down and leg locked and Massenzio is an accomplished wrestler.

I'm just saying that Lombard is facing a new level of competition now. He went from destroying everyone in Bellator to getting leg kicked to a decision against Boetsch.

Who knows . . . maybe he'll get back to his murderous ways against Palhares. But I'd hardly consider it a foregone conclusion.

[mike]

palhares has a very strong double leg td.

[poopoo333]

No need to discuss the Anthony Perosh fight:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7jNM8_CYAEtlQT.jpg

That's his toe...

or lack thereof.

[SPX]

Dude . . . stop.

That is fucked up.

[mike]

holy.. what the heck happened to him??? that is nasty

[zY|]

Came here to post the toe. Sorta disappointed, but glad to see poopoo holding it down.

[poopoo333]

Came here to post the toe. Sorta disappointed, but glad to see poopoo holding it down.

As your new MMA moderator, I am going to be on top of everything MMA related. Except for this week after Wednesday, I'll be on a fucking boat until Monday.

[poopoo333]

The injury happened when Anthony attempted a routine takedown and his toe got stuck in/between 2 mats.


damn

[SPX]

That's some fucked up shit. Makes me never want to do martial arts.

[edman5555]

Yeah I quit. Before I start.

[poopoo333]

Igor Pokrajac in for Perosh against Beltran

[SPX]

Damn it!

I liked the fight for Beltran against Perosh. Not so much now.

[edman5555]

No need to discuss the Anthony Perosh fight:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7jNM8_CYAEtlQT.jpg

That's his toe...

or lack thereof.



I don't get it? ACL?

[edman5555]

Igor Pokrajac in for Perosh against Beltran

I'll take Igor in that one.

[poopoo333]

I don't get it? ACL?

That's his fucking toe...he broke it...bad.

[poopoo333]

Sat 12/15

1003 Pearson/Sotiropoulos goes 3 rnd distance

-185





10:30PM

1004 Fight won't go 3 round distance

+145





Sat 12/15

1005 Pearson wins inside distance

+383





10:30PM

1006 Not Pearson inside distance

-577





Sat 12/15

1007 Pearson wins by 3 round decision

+220





10:30PM

1008 Not Pearson by 3 round decision

-300





Sat 12/15

1009 Sotiropoulos wins inside distance

+319





10:30PM

1010 Not Sotiropoulos inside distance

-455





Sat 12/15

1011 Sotiropoulos wins by 3 round decision

+169





10:30PM

1012 Not Sotiropoulos by 3 round decision

-227





Sat 12/15

1013 Pearson/Sotiropoulos draw

+6000





10:30PM

1014 Fight not a draw

-15000

[poopoo333]

If you like Pearson to win, may as well grab him by decision at +220. I don't have a read on this fight at all to be honest.

[edman5555]

That's his fucking toe...he broke it...bad.

I was joking.

[poopoo333]

I was joking.

love you

[poopoo333]

Rousimar Palhares vs Hector Lombard - 3 rounds - UFC on FX 6 Finale propositions


Sat 12/15

1103 Palhares/Lombard goes 3 round distance

+175





10:00PM

1104 Fight won't go 3 round distance

-245





Sat 12/15

1105 Palhares wins inside distance

+314





10:00PM

1106 Not Palhares inside distance

-440





Sat 12/15

1107 Palhares wins by 3 round decision

+575





10:00PM

1108 Not Palhares by 3 round decision

-1125





Sat 12/15

1109 Lombard wins inside distance

-106





10:00PM

1110 Not Lombard inside distance

-134





Sat 12/15

1111 Lombard wins by 3 round decision

+313





10:00PM

1112 Not Lombard by 3 round decision

-437





Sat 12/15

1113 Palhares/Lombard draw

+8000





10:00PM

1114 Fight not a draw

-21500

[edman5555]

I guess I lean Lombard in this one. His standup is probably better than Palhares. Still a tough one to bet considering Palhares potent finishing power on the ground. His strikes are actually somewhat hard as well. They aren't that technical from what I remember though.

Sotiropolous/Pearson: This one will be close IMO. I could see Sotiropolous controlling him on the ground if he can get him there. I think Pearson has a good shot at keeping it standing though. Pearson is kind of a thick guy with a lot of strength in the clinch. I don't know who has better striking in this one. Anyone have an idea? I tend to lean towards Pearson but G-Sot has some pretty decent boxing IIRC. Nothing special but not bad. He outboxed Siver in the third round of that fight.

[edman5555]

Seth Baczynski- Mike Pierce: I think Pierce is really good but I haven't really seen a lot of Baczynski's fights. Pierce has a really strong base and pretty decent boxing. Who knows. Maybe I will watch some tape on Baczynski.

[edman5555]

Igor Pokrajac - Joey Beltran: Sorry for pulling a major Edman. Igor should dominate this one IMO. I think his wresting should make the difference. It should be interesting to see Beltran at 205 but I just dont see them being on the same level skill wise.

[mike]

I guess I lean Lombard in this one. His standup is probably better than Palhares. Still a tough one to bet considering Palhares potent finishing power on the ground. His strikes are actually somewhat hard as well. They aren't that technical from what I remember though.

Sotiropolous/Pearson: This one will be close IMO. I could see Sotiropolous controlling him on the ground if he can get him there. I think Pearson has a good shot at keeping it standing though. Pearson is kind of a thick guy with a lot of strength in the clinch. I don't know who has better striking in this one. Anyone have an idea? I tend to lean towards Pearson but G-Sot has some pretty decent boxing IIRC. Nothing special but not bad. He outboxed Siver in the third round of that fight.
I really like Pearson at +odd for this fight. Pearson's tdd is good enough to keep it standing and i think he will. (why should he go to the ground with Sot?). Now I believe his stand up is a level above Sot. He lost to Cole Miller (got caught there), the Barboza fight was really close, it could have gone either way and just got KOed by Swanson. Both Barboza and Swanson are much better strikers than Sot. They are alot faster with more power. Sot's boxing is pretty average to me. He has long reach. that's it. Sot could somehow take this fight to the ground and sub Pearson but unlike that's gonna happen with Sot's average td ability. I think Pearson takes this. The only thing i worry about on betting alot on Pearson is this fight is gonna be in Australia and there's a chance Sot will get a hometown decision.

[poopoo333]

I bet Ross Pearson by decision at +220. 2.5u

[poopoo333]

Although Palhares doesn't typically go the distance, I can see Lombard getting a real boring decision. I don't get why people label him as some sort of killer, he is boring as fuck. Lombard by decision +313 is appealing.

[poopoo333]

Although Palhares doesn't typically go the distance, I can see Lombard getting a real boring decision. I don't get why people label him as some sort of killer, he is boring as fuck. Lombard by decision +313 is appealing.

Bet it. It's funny how a max bet (very low for a max bet imo) moves the line from +313 to +264. The lines stay stable for so long and then one $100 bet and it gets brought down a lot. It just shows how much people don't actually play these props.

[Ludo]

Although Palhares doesn't typically go the distance, I can see Lombard getting a real boring decision. I don't get why people label him as some sort of killer, he is boring as fuck. Lombard by decision +313 is appealing.

Let's not forget how quickly Marquardt finished Paul Harris. I can see a similar situation against Lombard where he just gets trucked because he's got the mental capacity of a nine year old.

[SPX]

That was flukey, though. Belcher is a better example.

[Ludo]

That was flukey, though. Belcher is a better example.

They're both good examples since Marquardt wasn't the only guy to ever catch Palhares going full retard out there. Remember that shit with Dan Miller where he thought he knocked Dan out and ran up to sit on top of the cage for 45 seconds while the ref is trying to tell him the fight's not over?

[SPX]

I of course heard about that but I still have not had the pleasure of seeing the fight.

[Ludo]

Do yourself a favor and watch it because Palhares almost got knocked the fuck out right after coming down.

[SPX]

I heard that, too.

I'll try to find it.

[poopoo333]

I agree Ludo.....Palhares is a fucking retard.

[edman5555]

Lombard is the rightful favorite.

[SPX]

Anyone like Lombard/Harris does not complete round 1 @ +170?

[edman5555]

Anyone have opinions on Baczynski and Pierce? Seth has a huge height advantage. I think Pierce should take it with his wrestling though.

[edman5555]

I put a bet on Pierce by decision. We'll see what happens there. I think he should be able to take Seth down but Seth seems to have some good finishing ability. I didn't want to pay -400 on it. Too much.

[MMA_scientist]

Anyone have opinions on Baczynski and Pierce? Seth has a huge height advantage. I think Pierce should take it with his wrestling though.

I think Pierce is going to win pretty easy. Regardless of the height advantage, you have Pierce, who fought super close fights with Koscheck and Hendricks vs. Seth F'n Baszynski. He is just a level or two above Baczynski IMO.

[edman5555]

I think your being too judgemental against Lombard Poopoo. I think he was waiting to counter Boetsche and Boetsche didn't attack a lot. Palhares problem is going to be that he has to come forward to get those takedowns. His game is a very aggresive. Maybe he can modify it. Maybe not. It provides opportunities for Lombard to land a shot.

[edman5555]

I think Pierce is going to win pretty easy. Regardless of the height advantage, you have Pierce, who fought super close fights with Koscheck and Hendricks vs. Seth F'n Baszynski. He is just a level or two above Baczynski IMO.

What do you think about Igor Versus Beltran?

[MMA_scientist]

What do you think about Igor Versus Beltran?

Igor is better, but Beltran is Beltran. I don't bet against the Mexicutioner.

[edman5555]

Igor is better, but Beltran is Beltran. I don't bet against the Mexicutioner.

I see.

[edman5555]

I don't see Beltran as a big finisher. Granted he will be at a lower weight class now but I still don't see him stopping Igor. I think Igor should be able to outwrestle him.

[SPX]

I think this is going to be a standup affair. Either Igor will win via technical skill or Beltran will win by being tough as shit and wearing him down.

[edman5555]

You don't think Igor can take him down?

[SPX]

I think he'll have a hard time doing it. Others have tried to get him down and struggled to do it. I think his T3D might be just good enough to make Igor say fuck it and rely on his boxing.

[poopoo333]

Lombard is gonna win.

[edman5555]

anyone have a link for this?

[SPX]

Watched the fights after I got home last night.

A few thoughts:

1. Who the fuck is Rousimar Palyarus?

2. Harris had nothing for Lombard. He wasn't even in the fight.

3. There was a bunch of dudes I hadn't heard of who fought each other.

4. Mexecutioner! I'm always glad to see him win. Igor just seemed flat in there. I did think he won the third round, though.

5. G-Sot has a weird fucking body. I mean, just some science experiment gone wrong kind of shit.

6. Ross Pearson looked different. The hair, obviously. But his face just looked different, too. And he looked thicker and more muscled than I've ever seen him before.

7. Should've bet Pearson.

[edman5555]

Yeah I put money on PEarson to win in round 4 and round 5. The odds were like 25 to 1 for round 5. He Tko'd him in round 3. I thought GSOT would last longer and start to fade since he had been out for so long.

[edman5555]

Rousimar Palhares broke his foot in the beginning of the fight.

[MMA_scientist]

I read that too... I don't think it would have mattered. Palyaris has an excuse everytime. He was sick for Belcher, Marquart was greased, etc. He wasn't getting anything done there, I read he claims to have broken his foot on a leg kick, but it sounds like another excuse to me.

[edman5555]

i saw a pic. it was broken.

[poopoo333]

i saw a pic. it was broken.

I think he hired someone to photo shop it.