World Series of Fighting

[SPX]

Anyone been keeping an eye on this shit?

http://www.wsof.com/

Looks like maybe some semi-interesting fights. Hopefully AA can get another win here.

[poopoo333]

MAIN CARD (NBC Sports Network)

Andrei Arlovski vs. Devin Cole
Anthony Johnson vs. D.J. Linderman
Marlon Moraes vs. Miguel Torres
Gregor Gracie vs. Tyson Steele
Travis Bartlett vs. Tyrone Spong

PRELIMINARY CARD

Brian Cobb vs. Ronys Torres
Josh Burkman vs. Gerald Harris
Gesias "JZ" Cavalcante vs. T.J. O'Brien
Dave Branch vs. Dustin Jacoby
Waylon Lowe vs. Fabio Mello
Ramico Blackmon vs. Steve Carl

[poopoo333]

Should be getting lines here....let's look at these fights. Have to look more at Mello, but I think Lowe may be worth a bet if the line is right.

JZ Calvacante will be overvalued probably.

Gerald Harris will probably win.

Ronys Torres will probably win.

Spong is making his MMA debut. Will Bartlett be able to take him down?

Miguel Torres will be -500 and I don't even know who the other guy is.

Anthony Johnson should beat Linderman...don't think Linderman will be able to work his usual game.

I'll bet Devin "I am a rapist" Cole if the price is right.

[SPX]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/603.png

[SPX]

Thoughts on Harris or Torres at those lines?

[poopoo333]

I haven't seen the other guys fight. But I like Anthony Johnson to win, but he IS a flaky bum

[SPX]

Josh Burkman lost to Pete Sell. What else do you need to know?

[poopoo333]

Josh Burkman lost to Pete Sell. What else do you need to know?

okee

[poopoo333]

I guess if I knew Harris was going to use his wrestling and isn't going to be all tentative and shit, I would want to bet him. But it really does not matter, because Sportsbook is the only book with the lines for the preliminary fights.

[poopoo333]

Article on Torres' opponent:

Fight Path: Marlon Moraes the next version of UFC's Edson Barboza? (http://mmajunkie.com/news/21933/fight-path-marlon-moraes-the-next-version-of-ufcs-edson-barboza.mma)

[poopoo333]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQuP_nhTZHI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-hvpOXOg14

Video of a fight that actually goes the distance:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0ETwUDU6NY&feature=plcp


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_c9aN5G22E&feature=plcp


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioVfaLmWsUU&feature=plcp

[poopoo333]

I saw a picture of Torres after weigh ins eating dinner with a bunch of Mexicans, and I didn't see any Tri Star guys (mainly Zahabi) so I went to see if he is still there... I found this:


After spending six months out of the year traveling to different gyms, Torres said he's now rooted to his longtime home in Hammond, Ind., where he owns a successful MMA gym. He plans to fly in sparring partners from the famed Tristar Gym and Jaco Hybrid Training Center, where he's spent much mat time, but he said he wants to be closer to his 5-year-old daughter.


That might be a good thing against a guy like Moraes. When he was with Zahabi, he was very tentative/methodical and it honestly didn't look right for him. From what I have seen from Moraes, Torres being tentative on the feet and trying to out technique a guy like Moraes might not be a good thing. Moraes looks pretty sharp on the feet, is aggressive, and has some power. However, if Torres can get this to the mat, he will be at a big advantage in my opinion. If Torres hangs back, there is a good shot he gets blitzed and ends up on the wrong side of a TKO.

Overall, I think Torres will have a slight edge on the feet technically, but Moraes has a legit shot at getting the upset there. However, Torres is at big advantage on the mat, and if he can work from the top, he should probably get the submission win. I am not sure if Torres can get him to the mat with his takedowns, but Moraes throws lots of kicks, as well as flashy spinning kicks that Torres might be able to get a hold of and wrap him up.


I think Torres wins, but I don't want to take him at -270 in this spot. Lots of question marks surrounding him, and I have been burned in the past taking an ex UFC fighter in a smaller organization.

[poopoo333]

"I'm going to stand with this guy," Torres on Thursday told MMAjunkie.com Radio (http://www.mmajunkie.com/radio) (www.mmajunkie.com/radio). "I'm going to fight smart. I just can't run and try the takedown. He knows I'm going to try to bring the fight to the ground. But for sure, I'm going to stand with him and engage him standing.

"(I'm going to be) a lot smarter than my last fight. I'm not going to bring out the old, crazy Miguel Torres. I've trained with him before, so I know where he's dangerous. So I've just got to avoid those things and be make him be impatient and press forward. Then he makes mistakes that way."


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[SPX]

But it really does not matter, because Sportsbook is the only book with the lines for the preliminary fights.

Why haven't you reloaded that shit yet?

[SPX]

Okay, I'm betting Harris . . . staying away from Torres.

[poopoo333]

Why haven't you reloaded that shit yet?

I don't know. I probably should though. I really only use 5 dimes. My $ at Bookmaker is all tied up on Chris Weidman right now. I guess if I fund another book it will be Sportsbook because they offer free payouts monthly...fuck that $65 fee or whatever from Bookmaker.

[poopoo333]

Okay, I'm betting Harris . . . staying away from Torres.

I might go small on a black power parlay of Harris/Anthony Johnson.

Arlovski might be a decent bet, -210 now. Would rather throw him in a parlay though. I don't think Devin Cole is going to KO him or get him down for any significant amount of time. How did Arlovski do in the Sylvia fight fairly recently? I never saw it.

[SPX]

I don't know. I probably should though. I really only use 5 dimes. My $ at Bookmaker is all tied up on Chris Weidman right now. I guess if I fund another book it will be Sportsbook because they offer free payouts monthly...fuck that $65 fee or whatever from Bookmaker.

With the frequency that Sportsbook has been breaking lines lately I think it's a good book to have. Plus, I know I don't have to lecture you on the importance of line shopping. .

[poopoo333]

With the frequency that Sportsbook has been breaking lines lately I think it's a good book to have. Plus, I know I don't have to lecture you on the importance of line shopping. .

Yeah, the thing is, 5 dimes usually has the best lines (well, second to Sportbet, which is a 5 dimes affiliate)...especially when reduced juice lines become available. Sportsbook DOES have some great dog lines though early on (see Diaz +260 against Ben Henderson)

[poopoo333]

Anthony Johnson's last fight against Jake Rosholt:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPjBbOC2Pqc&feature=player_embedded#!

[SPX]

Arlovski might be a decent bet, -210 now. Would rather throw him in a parlay though. I don't think Devin Cole is going to KO him or get him down for any significant amount of time. How did Arlovski do in the Sylvia fight fairly recently? I never saw it.

I only saw the ending, but I heard that AA did not look that great until the KO. He was apparently letting Sylvia push him up against the cage at will and was making very good use of footwork. But then he got the KO.

[poopoo333]

I think Anthony Johnson will beat DJ Linderman. Will pick him apart, probably get TDs of his own, I don't see Linderman being able to get any type of top control decision here.

[SPX]

I don't know enough about Linderman to make a bet on that shit. Especially since AJ has been flaky, like you said.

[poopoo333]

I don't know enough about Linderman to make a bet on that shit. Especially since AJ has been flaky, like you said.

Linderman is a tough guy that didn't really cut it in the Bellator LHW tournament. And all those guys pretty much suck. Johnson will do pretty well in this fight I think. Watched vids on Linderman this morning and not too sure he will get it done.

[poopoo333]

X, we got the Harris line at a bad time

[Vandelay]

AJ has this. Linderman is a solid guy, good chin and all but not talented enough to beat Johnson. Linderman usually wins via wrestling either offensively or defensively. I remember watching his fight with Hale and it was awful, he couldnt take him down and his standup was rudimentary.

[edman5555]

Moraes is a muay thai champion from brazil. He started training Brazilian jiu jitsu when he was 15. I don't get the impression from the interviews that he trained that extensively. I do think Miguel has a big advantage on the ground however a lot will come down to his ability to get the fight there. Standing I would think Moraes has the advantage if he can get past having to strike while preventing takedowns. Its a tough call but I think Miguel is probably a reasonable bet to win here.

Brian Bobb/Ronnys Torres. I don't know much about Cobb because I really haven't watched any of his fights. Accroding to his wiki page he is a pretty skilled Division 1 wrestler. PAC 10 qualifier and division finalist. Torres is pretty hard to contain from what I have seen. Volkmann had trouble with him and he is a very good wrestler/grappler. Though he is pretty one dimensional. Ronnyes seems like a really good fighter IMO that will probably beat Cobb. It is just a gut feeling that is mostly reliant on the fact that I think Ronnys is a badass. He fought 8 times in 2011 with 6 stoppages. My only real fear is a Cobb lay and pray. I just read an interview with Cobb that stated Ronys Torres is a jiu jitsu world champ. I did not know that. I am still not sure about this one.

[edman5555]

I only saw the ending, but I heard that AA did not look that great until the KO. He was apparently letting Sylvia push him up against the cage at will and was making very good use of footwork. But then he got the KO.

Devin Cole is an all american wrestler according to wiki. DJ linderman claims he will submit AJ.

[edman5555]

What weight class is AJ versus Linderman?

[poopoo333]

205

[SPX]

X, we got the Harris line at a bad time

I noticed that. Should've waited I guess, but I was actually thinking it might get worse.

[poopoo333]

I noticed that. Should've waited I guess, but I was actually thinking it might get worse.

It was down to -175!

[SPX]

Damn, no shit? That's crazy.

Burkman lost to Pete Sell! Pete Sell, everybody!

[poopoo333]

http://www.sherdog.com/events/WSOF-1-Arlovski-vs-Cole-24535


WSOF's undercard begins at 7:45 ET with a live stream on Sherdog

The main card starts on NBC Sports Network or whatever at 10:30 ET.

See you guys in the chat.