UFC on FOX 7

[poopoo333]

UFC on FOX 7 targeted for Benson Henderson vs. Gilbert Melendez lightweight title fight

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/1/14/3875970/ufc-on-fox-7-targeted-for-benson-henderson-vs-gilbert-melendez

[poopoo333]

We'll probably see Cormier vs Mir here too.

[SPX]

Kind of surprised they're just going to give that one away. . .

[poopoo333]

Meh I disagree...Ben Henderson never did great PPV #s..I think they are trying to build him up on free TV. The "casual fans" aren't going to really care about this fight when it's on pay per view...they probably haven't even heard of Melendez.

[poopoo333]

Also, if Bendo is better than -175 I am gonna bet the balls out of it

[Luke]

I like Mir over Bendo

[poopoo333]

Opening odds on Bookmaker:



Time


#
Teams
Spread
Total
Odds







7:00 PM


37901
GILBERT MELENDEZ
PK+155






37902
BENSON HENDERSON
PK-205







Sounds about right.

[MMA_scientist]

I think Bendo has value @ -205. I pretty much expect him to dominate.

[Mr. IWS]

We'll probably see Cormier vs Mir here too.

::moneybag::

[poopoo333]

::moneybag::

Going all in on Mir?

[SPX]

I think Bendo has value @ -205. I pretty much expect him to dominate.

I think so, too. . .

[poopoo333]

We'll probably see Cormier vs Mir here too.

Confirmed.

[poopoo333]

Sources: Matt Brown vs Dan Hardy targeted for UFC on Fox on April 20.


....

[edman5555]

My first reaction was to say Hardy but Brown has been looking good.

[SPX]

Yeah, with the way Brown has been fighting lately I have to think he'll win. This will be a good fight to see where Hardy's at, though.

If Hardy loses he should rematch Swick.

[Mr. IWS]

Going all in on Mir?

black guy

[poopoo333]

Safe bet. Cormier all day. Even at -400.

[poopoo333]

Luke Rockhold wants to fight Costa Philippou at UFC on FOX 7


SF vs UFC

[SPX]

That would be a pretty good fight. I got Rockhold in that one.

[edman5555]

That would be a pretty good fight. I got Rockhold in that one.

Ill take rockhold in that one more or less. Costa is no bitch. That said. Cormier has looked good but Mir is pretty damned good himself and he has outsrtruck strikers better than average and tapped out bjj specialists better than average so watch out.

[poopoo333]

Cormier will beat Mir. He is a better boxer imo and has great power. He is amazing in the clinch and I can see him working with Mir up against the fence and really tiring Mir out (based on past fights that go longer than 2 minutes..Mir does not have the best cardio). I do not see Cormier actually taking Mir down and working in his guard or anything, but I think he makes it an ugly fight and will take it to Mir. -400 is a pretty steep line to bet straight so I will probably throw him in a parlay with Bendo.

[SPX]

Costa's really solid but I think Rockhold would shut him down on the feet or on the ground. I'd probably take Rock up to -350.

[poopoo333]

Yeah, Rockhold is the more diverse striker and won't stand in front of Costa and get boxed up. I am not sure how good Rockhold's takedowns are...Costas is pretty solid. However, I bet a good amount on him against Tim Boetsch and I thought after halfway in round 1 that Costa was not going to win that fight (luckily Boetsch basically got hit by a bus in the middle of the fight causing him to get his ass kicked). His TDD wasn't that great (but then again Boetsch is a big, powerful wrestler) so I am not sure if I can use that fight as a gauge for the Rockhold fight. Even if it stays standing I think Rockhold will be the more active striker and will edge out a decision.

[SPX]

Yeah, I THINK that Rockhold can probably get him down. I remember Rock making JT$ look like a damned fool in the wrestling department and he was also almost always on the better end of the grappling exchanges with Kennedy. I think Costa will make him work for it, but if Rockhold wants him on the ground I think he can get him there.

But like you say, even if the fight stays on the feet I think Rock will still win simply by being the better, more dynamic striker.

[edman5555]

Rockhold has the option of trying to take it to the floor. I don't think Costa really does. I agree that Rockhold has the more diverse standup and can probably win there.

[poopoo333]

Josh Thomson vs Nate Diaz added

[poopoo333]

I think we see Belfort v Rockhold too..just a guess

[SPX]

Josh Thomson vs Nate Diaz added

Wow. That should be an interesting fight.

As long as Nate can stop the takedowns he should win.

[poopoo333]

I actually kind of like Thomson here...and I am a Diaz fanboy

[Luke]

I actually kind of like Thomson here..


+1

[poopoo333]

Tim Means vs. Jorge Masvidal, Roger Bowling vs. Anthony Njokuani (155lb bout), Tuck vs. Parke at UFC on FOX 7

[edman5555]

Thomson as well.

[SPX]

Those sound interesting, especially Bowling vs Njokuani.

[poopoo333]

Chad Mendes vs Clay Guida

[MMA_scientist]

Chad Mendes vs Clay Guida

All in on Mendes.

[SPX]

I also favor Mendes, especially after Guida's performance against Hioki.

[MMA_scientist]

I don't see how Guida can win that fight.

[SPX]

It wouldn't be a total shock to me if Guida turned out to be the better wrestler.

[poopoo333]

It wouldn't be a total shock to me if Guida turned out to be the better wrestler.

Yeah, I strongly believe that's not gonna be the case

[SPX]

I have learned to not get too surprised by much of anything with this shit.

[SPX]

I mean, Guida might just bobblehead him for three rounds while Mendes tries to get a lock on him. Who knows.

[MMA_scientist]

I think Mendes has much better striking and can also take him down as needed. I don't know... but I am betting Mendes if under -400

[Thewisemann]

Mendes wont even be -200

[poopoo333]

Mendes wont even be -200

I will bet you otherwise :)

[Thewisemann]

You realky think he will be a heavy favorite?

[edman5555]

I think mendes is much better but guida is probably a lot bigger. He almost got the decison against gray as well. I like the way chad is looking though.

[SPX]

I'd also be just a little concerned about Guida's size. Mendes is not big.

[Thewisemann]

I pick Mendes to win but if he is a heavy favorite ill be on Guida.

[Luke]

Nate Diaz is -250 over Thompson at a euro book

[poopoo333]

Crazy. Thomson probably wins.

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/6515.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[poopoo333]

UFC on FOX 7 adds Benavidez vs. Uyenoyama, Rivera vs. Viana (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/03/ufc-on-fox-7-adds-benavidez-vs-uyenoyama-rivera-vs-viana)

[Luke]

UFC on FOX 7 adds Benavidez vs. Uyenoyama, Rivera vs. Viana (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/03/ufc-on-fox-7-adds-benavidez-vs-uyenoyama-rivera-vs-viana)



who, who and who?

[edman5555]

who, who and who?

5u on who.

[poopoo333]

Uyenoyoma...I am betting him at good dog odds.

[poopoo333]

Solid card for betting




Benson Henderson (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/benson-henderson) vs. Gilbert Melendez (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/gilbert-melendez) - for lightweight title
Daniel Cormier (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/daniel-cormier) vs. Frank Mir (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/frank-mir)
Nate Diaz (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/nate-diaz) vs. Josh Thomson (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/josh-thomson)
Matt Brown (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/matt-brown) vs. Dan Hardy (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/dan-hardy)
Clay Guida (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/clay-guida) vs. Chad Mendes (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/chad-mendes)
Joseph Benavidez (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/joseph-benavidez) vs. Darren Uyenoyama (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/darren-uyenoyama)
Roger Bowling (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/roger-bowling) vs. Anthony Njokuani (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/anthony-njokuani)
Jorge Masvidal (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/jorge-masvidal) vs. Tim Means (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/tim-means)
Myles Jury (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/myles-jury) vs. Ramsey Nijem (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/ramsey-nijem)
Francis Carmont (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/francis-carmont) vs. Lorenz Larkin (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/lorenz-larkin)
Clifford Starks (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/clifford-starks) vs. Yoel Romero (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/yoel-romero)
Norman Parke (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/norman-parke) vs. Jon Tuck (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/jon-tuck)

[SPX]

Still can't believe Myles Jury beat Johnson like he did.

[poopoo333]

Confident in: Bendo, Cormier, Carmont.

Leans: Thomson, Brown, Uyenoya (under the assumption he will be better than +250), Romero.

[Thewisemann]

I wont bet against Mir at those odds.

[edman5555]

Mir/Cormier goes the distance is +245 right now. What do you guys think of this?

Cormier knocked out Silva and Dion Starling. The Starling knockout took a long time. It was more of a barrage until he was out. On the feet he outpointed Barnett, Monson, and Devin cole. He might be able to take out Mir but I like plus odds. It could get better by fight time too. It opened at +160.

Mir has been tko'd by a few guys but they were all some of the hardest hitters ( Carwin had him pinned against the cage, Brock had him pinned on the ground, and Junior outboxed him) Aside from those he hasn't been ko'd since back in the day after his motorcyle accident. I don't think his chin is that bad, he would probably have to get hit right on the button to go out. Cormier probably wont want to get to close to him because he'll want to avoid submissions so this could be a fight fought at range like Corm-Barnet, Corm-Monson. Everytime hes fought a submissionist he has tried to oustrike him. He's probably got better striking than Mir too, although I think it could be close. He could also grind him against the cage. That sorta puts him in the submission danger zone as well but I could see him feeling comfortable there.

[poopoo333]

It doesn't matter, bet it now and it will be voided. It says "won't go 5 round distance"...it is a 3 round fight.

[Thewisemann]

Mir is too dangerous and too chinny too bet that.

[edman5555]

Mir is too dangerous and too chinny too bet that.

Yeah he is chinny. The mir is dangerous part is right as well however I figured that Cormier would be able to use his wrestling to stay out of Mir's sub game thus avoiding most of the danger.

[Thewisemann]

I wont touch that fight. Mir is slick he always has a shot at catching a sub and could land a big bomb on Cormier. That said I think Cormier wins so I wont bet Mir, but no way ill be DC at -400 either.

[poopoo333]

Josh Thomson vs Nathan Diaz - 3 rounds - UFC on Fox 7 propositions



Sat 4/20

1203 Thomson/Diaz goes 3 round distance

-230





10:00PM

1204 Fight won't go 3 round distance

+170





Gilbert Melendez vs Ben Henderson - 5 rounds - UFC on Fox 7 propositions


Sat 4/20

1003 Melendez/Henderson goes 5 round distance

-350





11:00PM

1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance

+250





Sat 4/20

1005 Melendez wins inside distance

+525





11:00PM

1006 Not Melendez inside distance

-975





Sat 4/20

1007 Melendez wins by 5 round decision

+365





11:00PM

1008 Not Melendez by 5 round decision

-555





Sat 4/20

1009 Henderson wins inside distance

+478





11:00PM

1010 Not Henderson inside distance

-832





Sat 4/20

1011 Henderson wins by 5 round decision

-150





11:00PM

1012 Not Henderson by 5 round decision

+110





Sat 4/20

1013 Melendez/Henderson draw

+8000





11:00PM

1014 Fight not a draw

-21500





Frank Mir vs Daniel Cormier - 3 rounds - UFC on Fox 7 propositions


Sat 4/20

1103 Mir/Cormier goes 5 round distance

+250





10:30PM

1104 Fight won't go 5 round distance

-350





Sat 4/20

1105 Mir wins inside distance

+480





10:30PM

1106 Not Mir inside distance

-840





Sat 4/20

1107 Mir wins by 5 round decision

+775





10:30PM

1108 Not Mir by 5 round decision

-1625





Sat 4/20

1109 Cormier wins inside distance

-182





10:30PM

1110 Not Cormier inside distance

+142





Sat 4/20

1111 Cormier wins by 5 round decision

+390





10:30PM

1112 Not Cormier by 5 round decision

-590





Sat 4/20

1113 Mir/Cormier draw

+12500





10:30PM

1114 Fight not a draw

-37500

[poopoo333]

I like Bendo by decision at -150 here.

[edman5555]

I wonder if they will change the odds on Corm/Mir when they realize its 3 rounds.

[poopoo333]

Dan Hardy injured.

Jordan Mein steps in.

Jordan Mein vs Matt Brown.

[mike]

oh damn. I was planning to bet Mat Brown on that fight. Might still bet Brown vs Mein if he's +350.

[poopoo333]

Doubt he is +350 but he will be the dog. It's going to be interesting to see Mein fight a guy that's going to turn it into an ugly fight.

[mike]

he's got the hype after he finished Miller. He's a big, strong Welter and only 23yo. Very relaxed but I thought he had no respect for Miller's striking and was just headhunting. Brown always comes to fight and tough to finish. He might be able to steal 2 rounds and win a dec.

[mike]

hmm just realized this event is in San Jose, only 50min drive for me. Debating if I should go see it live. Kinda want to go but also want to stay home for the live betting.

[edman5555]

I thini mein takes it.

[SPX]

I think Mein's going to beat Brown's ass, but ever since Matt Brown 2.0 showed up he's been exceeding expectations.

[edman5555]

Farnk Mir training with Greg Jackson.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/4/9/4203404/frank-mir-says-daniel-cormier-has-a-false-sense-of-security-plans-to

[edman5555]

I like the odds for this one going the distance. I'm still a little unsure who wins this one. Mirs striking isnt too bad. He might be able to oustrike Cormier. I doubt Cormier wants to take Mir down so it could end up coming down to who the better kickboxer is. I think thats close to 50/50.

[edman5555]

Benavidex (-303/1.33) - Uyenoyama (+200/3.00)
Carmont (-133/1.75) - Larkin (-105/1.95)
Dillashaw (-166/1.60) - Viana (+120/2.20)
Means (+130/2.30) - Masvidal (-182/1.55)
Mendes (-400/1.25) - Elkins (+250/3.50)
Nijem (+170/2.70) - Jury (-250/1.40)
Njokuani (-250/1.40) - Bowling (+170/2.70)
Starks (-154/1.65) - Romero (+110/2.10)

Brown (-111/1.90) - Mein (-125/1.80)
Diaz (-182/1.55) - Thomson (+133/2.33)
Cormier (-455/1.22) - Mir (+290/3.90)
Henderson (-270/1.37) - Melendez (+190/2.90)


Apparently these odds are from Unibet, a European book.

[SPX]

I'll take Benavidex, Mir and Mein at those lines.

[Luke]

Benavidex (-303/1.33) - Uyenoyama (+200/3.00)
Carmont (-133/1.75) - Larkin (-105/1.95)
Dillashaw (-166/1.60) - Viana (+120/2.20)
Means (+130/2.30) - Masvidal (-182/1.55)
Mendes (-400/1.25) - Elkins (+250/3.50)
Nijem (+170/2.70) - Jury (-250/1.40)
Njokuani (-250/1.40) - Bowling (+170/2.70)
Starks (-154/1.65) - Romero (+110/2.10)

Brown (-111/1.90) - Mein (-125/1.80)
Diaz (-182/1.55) - Thomson (+133/2.33)
Cormier (-455/1.22) - Mir (+290/3.90)
Henderson (-270/1.37) - Melendez (+190/2.90)


Apparently these odds are from Unibet, a European book.


Good shit , Edmann

[edman5555]

Found it on Zewkey. I had heard that Unibet posts lines early but I was unable to locate them on the website. I would be suprised if we get Mein at that line. Dillashaw looks pretty damn low as well. Maybe they will open there but I doubt they will last.

[edman5555]

he's got the hype after he finished Miller. He's a big, strong Welter and only 23yo. Very relaxed but I thought he had no respect for Miller's striking and was just headhunting. Brown always comes to fight and tough to finish. He might be able to steal 2 rounds and win a dec.

IVe been looking through Meins past victories and they have been somewhat decent. He's still young at 23 years old. I initially wanted to bet him big but maybe I was underestimating Brown and overestimating Mein. I think Mein wins but I don't want to get all hyped up on him. He started fighting when he was 16 and all but Brown is tough.

Anyone have a breakdown for this one?

[poopoo333]

The real american odds are out

[SPX]

Mendes -900 BOL

[edman5555]

The real american odds are out

I need to move to another country.

[MMA_scientist]

Is anyone giving Gil a shot here?

[trotterz]

Is anyone giving Gil a shot here?

I'm not

[MMA_scientist]

best underdog? Thompson, Nijem, Starks? I think all 3 could win.

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/634.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[Thewisemann]

I'm on Thompson and Nijem

[SPX]

Is anyone giving Gil a shot here?

Maybe a little. It's not like if Gil won if would be a GSP/Serra kind of a upset. I mean, I wouldn't bet Bendo at -500, for instance. But I do expect him to be a little better everywhere.



best underdog? Thompson, Nijem, Starks? I think all 3 could win.


Out of that list, I'd say Thompson. I also think Larkin, Brown and perhaps even Bowling have a shot here.

[Ludo]

Is anyone giving Gil a shot here?

Like X said I wouldn't be outright shocked if Gil managed to pull it off somehow. But Bendo is bigger, stronger, faster, probably a better wrestler, and probably the better striker. This probably looks alot like Gil vs Crusher 1 except Gilbert isn't as good in the clinch as Bendo is.

[SPX]

I'm really curious about their stand up. I think Bendo's standup is really solid but not excellent. This is probably the area where I think they are most evenly matched and if Gil is going to surprise us it's going to be by showing us he has better boxing.

On the ground, I think it's all Bendo. Better wrestling and much better subs.

[Ludo]

I'm really curious about their stand up. I think Bendo's standup is really solid but not excellent. This is probably the area where I think they are most evenly matched and if Gil is going to surprise us it's going to be by showing us he has better boxing.

On the ground, I think it's all Bendo. Better wrestling and much better subs.

Gil's best chance is to draw Bendo into a brawl, but I don't think he's going to be able to. Their most even area is striking but I think Bendo's kicks are the difference here. Gilbert's problem is going to be keeping Bendo from clinching him up and taking him down, especially since his best shot is to get wild and brawl with Benson.

[mike]

anyone like Viana ? his tdd looked good in his first ufc fight and hes probably the better striker. he hits hard and pretty fast too. i also like thompson but i hear hes been shooting movies in hina and have a short training camp for this fight. i like Gil and wont be surprised if he wins. he can make it a close fight by striking with henderson and sneak in tds.

[poopoo333]

Yeah, I think Benson has suspect T3D to be honest, but I think he wins a close decision. I don't think it will be dominant at all.

I absolutely LOVE Carmont over Larkin.

[poopoo333]

You guys will think I am crazy but Benavidez and the guy with the long and weird last name will be a close fight.

[Ludo]

You guys will think I am crazy but Benavidez and the guy with the long and weird last name will be a close fight.

I'm not sure I believe that. Uyenoyama got taken down and controlled by Phil Harris, Benavidez is going to have a field day with him.

[edman5555]

Yeah, I think Benson has suspect T3D to be honest, but I think he wins a close decision. I don't think it will be dominant at all.

I absolutely LOVE Carmont over Larkin.

Why? I've only seen larkin vs lawler and lawler looked kinda apathetic in that one.

[MMA_scientist]

You guys will think I am crazy but Benavidez and the guy with the long and weird last name will be a close fight.

I think Benenvidez will just keep it standing and outstrike him. I don't think he will roll the dice on the mat with him, though on the mat, I think it could go either way.

[poopoo333]

Why? I've only seen larkin vs lawler and lawler looked kinda apathetic in that one.

I don't even know what that means.

[SPX]

Me either.

[poopoo333]

Me either.

Maybe it means Lawler had that look in his eyes where he wanted to start sucking Larkin's dick in the middle of the fight.

[SPX]

That's probably it. Makes sense.

[Svino]

I like Brown at +285, and Nijem at +215. I might bet Dillashaw also.

[Luke]

I like Brown at +285, and Nijem at +215. I might bet Dillashaw also.

I really dont see how Brown wins. Sure , hes on win strike but who has he really beat that could be compared to the level of Mein? I think Mein dominates a 30-27 victory

[mike]

Becareful going big on Dillashaw. I rewatched his fight vs Vaughan Lee and he seem to have had problem taking Lee down. He didnt look good striking either. Viana is fast, hits hard and has good tdd. He keeps his distance pretty well also. I think this fight is alot closer than the odd suggest. If Dillishaw cant mix in the tds to take Viana down, he's probably gonna be in trouble on the feet.

[SPX]

I would just like to say it's fucking amazing that we're FINALLY going to see Gil in the UFC.

[poopoo333]

I agree that Viana may be a decent play.

[mike]

I had 1u on him at +300, waiting til after the weighin to bet more thinking people will bet on Dillashaw but damn, the odd on Viana gotten way worse lol.

[poopoo333]

I just bet Melendez by UD at +900.

[Svino]

I just bet Melendez by UD at +900.

That's really nice. Also if you hit that really hard, surely you can hedge it well with other bets.

I've been talked out of my Dillashaw bet -- a little worried about Viana's strength and size.

[Ludo]

That's really nice. Also if you hit that really hard, surely you can hedge it well with other bets.

I've been talked out of my Dillashaw bet -- a little worried about Viana's strength and size.

I definitely think the line is off on Dillashaw. His last fight wasn't quite the blowout people thought it would be and Viana is a tough little dude who's hard to take down and has power.

[edman5555]

Funny I was going to take romero by tko, mein and mendes by submission as well as bendo by sub. Watch them all happen.

[poopoo333]

Funny I was going to take romero by tko, mein and mendes by submission as well as bendo by sub. Watch them all happen.

There is still time for the last 3.

[edman5555]

I know but I figure I might lose them. Id hate to not bet the one that won and lose the ones I did bet.

I could see Mendes stunning Elkins and going for the sub. The only problem is he never goes for the sub so who knows if he will. All those Alpha male guys have great chokes but I guess there isn't really any reason to think Mendes will suddenly change.

I think Mein is probably a lot better on the ground than Brown and he could definetly stun him standing and follow him to the ground for the sub win.

Lastly I could see Bendo getting a choke on Gil after he wore him out, if he is able to. My only reservation is that he is probably in amazing shape and hard to submit. I base that on the fact that he trains daily with the diazs and has for a very long time. I'll just lay off.

[edman5555]

The Romero fight by tko made the most sense of them all. I should have just bet it. He is super aggresive.

[poopoo333]

So apparently Melendez would have gotten the decision but one judge gave Henderson the 5th round. If he gave Melendez the round...Melendez would have won. How the hell did Melendez lose round 5???

[Ludo]

So apparently Melendez would have gotten the decision but one judge gave Henderson the 5th round. If he gave Melendez the round...Melendez would have won. How the hell did Melendez lose round 5???

Probably best Gil didn't win since the judge who scored the fight for him was a Cesar Gracie affiliate owner.

[poopoo333]

Anybody think Thomson by (T)KO is a good bet? It's around +1500

[Vandelay]

Brown by tko, thompson by tko, corm by dec and melendez by dec came out to plus 307,000. I tried to tell ya to chnge the thomson pick to tko to increase the odds a bit, but that probably would have pissed u off more when the melendez dec was announced.

[poopoo333]

Brown by tko, thompson by tko, corm by dec and melendez by dec came out to plus 307,000. I tried to tell ya to chnge the thomson pick to tko to increase the odds a bit, but that probably would have pissed u off more when the melendez dec was announced.

Yes, I would have killed myself.

[SPX]

So apparently Melendez would have gotten the decision but one judge gave Henderson the 5th round. If he gave Melendez the round...Melendez would have won. How the hell did Melendez lose round 5???

Wow, that's interesting. I think Bendo legit won. But it was close. Hopefully Gil can string together a few wins and we'll get a rematch.

[Luke]

Hopefully Gil can string together a few wins and we'll get a rematch.

Whats the point, Bendo will just get another gift decision like he did in the Edgar rematch. Bendo is the only champ I've ever seen who could legitimately be 1-2 in his only 3 title defenses

[mike]

It was a really close fight though. I had no idea who was winning. Neither of them was edging the other.

[SPX]

I gave Bendo three rounds. It was close, but by the end of the fourth round, I legit thought that Gil had only won the first.

Edgar did win the rematch, though. But I guess that just speaks to the depth of lightweight. There's not much that separates the champ from the top contenders. The last time we had a truly dominant champ was when BJ had the belt.

[zY|]

The last time we had a truly dominant champ was when BJ had the belt.

I don't think there has ever been a dominant LW champ. BJ defended it only twice, and one of those was Diego Sanchez.

[SPX]

I suppose that's true, but he's at least the last one to a) take the belt in a totally dominant, decisive way, and defend it also dominantly and decisively.

[zY|]

Fair. But Henderson dominated Diaz to defend.

[SPX]

That's true. I think that's probably the only dominant LW title fight we've seen since BJ/Edgar II.

[Vandelay]

I don't think there has ever been a dominant LW champ. BJ defended it only twice, and one of those was Diego Sanchez.

with the other being kenflo...a notorius choker. Looking back, BJ penn was pretty overrated. His best win being....either sean sherk or matt hughes. Two relatively one dimensional fighters.

[SPX]

Speaking of BJ, I just read that he weighed in at a chubby 191 lbs to fight an in shape 220 lb Lyoto Machida. That dude has balls. And I think that's why people love BJ: He's never been afraid to take a chance at bigger glory unlike, say, GSP.

[Luke]

Speaking of BJ, I just read that he weighed in at a chubby 191 lbs to fight an in shape 220 lb Lyoto Machida. That dude has balls. And I think that's why people love BJ: He's never been afraid to take a chance at bigger glory unlike, say, GSP.


Ive seen that fight. His face is so fat it looks like its about to explode. I'll see if I can find it

[Luke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdvOfCz6_tk

[Ludo]

Whats the point, Bendo will just get another gift decision like he did in the Edgar rematch. Bendo is the only champ I've ever seen who could legitimately be 1-2 in his only 3 title defenses

What about Edgar himself? There is a legitimate argument that he was 2-4 in title fights at 155lbs. I'm not sure why there is so much talk about a "gift" decision when it a split decision comprised of all 48-47 scorecards. As if a fight made up of close rounds ending in a split decision one way or the other means somebody got screwed.

[poopoo333]

Ive seen that fight. His face is so fat it looks like its about to explode. I'll see if I can find it

LOL, if we met you might have thought the same about me. I have the big round fat head too...lots of people actually think I am Hawaiian or Samoan or some shit.

[edman5555]

Post fat head pic or lying.

[MMA_scientist]

I thought Bendo won rds 2,3,4. I really wasn't worried until I heard the SD. I was surprised Bendo couldn't take him down.

[edman5555]

I felt the same about him not being able to get the takedown. It was close. I thought mein would do better two.

[Thewisemann]

I was really worried when Bendo couldn't get the td. Melendez looked great. I had a feelibg Brown was gonna whoop that kids ass.

[trotterz]

I was really suprised that Bendo couldn't get the td as well.
I was also suprised of how good Melendez cardio looked.
I was pretty sure that Bendo would take over in the later rounds

[edman5555]

I was really suprised that Bendo couldn't get the td as well.
I was also suprised of how good Melendez cardio looked.
I was pretty sure that Bendo would take over in the later rounds

All my same thoughts but in retrospect it makes sense. He has always demonstrated good wrestling and he trains with a camp that turns out fighter known for cardio. Henderson by split was at +800 and I almost bet it after Brian Stann called it close fight on Fox. Would have been great.