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poopoo333
01-19-2013, 06:43 PM
Gustafsson vs. Mousasi official for Stockholm, tickets on sale Feb. 9
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edman5555
01-19-2013, 06:46 PM
wow mousasi all night
Really? I think Gustaffson takes it.
poopoo333
01-19-2013, 07:57 PM
Really? I think Gustaffson takes it.
Same. Mousasi might have some success in round 1, that's it. Gustafsson -200 would have my bet.
edman5555
01-19-2013, 08:18 PM
mousasi is a better striker
edman5555
01-19-2013, 08:18 PM
he is big too
Thewisemann
01-19-2013, 08:28 PM
I'll be all over Gus
edman5555
01-19-2013, 09:12 PM
i guess im glad i am the only one on gegard. I will prob get him as a dog.
edman5555
01-19-2013, 09:20 PM
hes beaten some top kickboxers. He is the netherlands amateur boxing champ and a great mma figher. Gustaffson is good but i feel like he will have a hard time with gegard. His reach wont be as useful. Maybe I am wrong.
trotterz
01-19-2013, 11:33 PM
hes beaten some top kickboxers. He is the netherlands amateur boxing champ and a great mma figher. Gustaffson is good but i feel like he will have a hard time with gegard. His reach wont be as useful. Maybe I am wrong.
I see it as 50/50, I will play on any of the 2 if one of them is a over +150
MMA_scientist
01-21-2013, 11:04 AM
I favor Gustaffson. The striking is probably a wash, with the technical edge to Mousasi and the size advantage to Gus. Gustaffson may throw in some takedowns though. He does go for them pretty regularly... and I think he is a lot bigger than Mousasi. Mousasi really should be a MW.
poopoo333
01-21-2013, 11:32 AM
Gustafsson might be the better striker technically. He is definitely much bigger and will have a huge speed and reach advantage. This is a 5 round fight. If Mousasi doesn't get the win early, he is done.
MMA_scientist
01-21-2013, 11:36 AM
i don't know about a speed advantage- Mousasi is quick. And he rarely takes any damage standing. Gustaffson got clipped a few times against Shogun.
edman5555
01-21-2013, 12:05 PM
Gustafson uses mostly his hands as well doesnt he? Mousasi has beaten the k1 kickboxing heavyweight champion.
MMA_scientist
01-21-2013, 12:22 PM
I agree, Mousasi has really good striking and a pretty good ground game. He just doesn't have TD defense or TD's of his own. He uses the "you're screwed regardless of where you take it" gameplan like Nick Diaz and Anderson Silva. I don't know if Gustaffson is the guy to exploit that, but he does go for a surprising number of takedowns. I just think the striking could go either way, and Gustaffson can probably ground him if he needs to.
trotterz
01-21-2013, 12:32 PM
I agree, Mousasi has really good striking and a pretty good ground game. He just doesn't have TD defense or TD's of his own. He uses the "you're screwed regardless of where you take it" gameplan like Nick Diaz and Anderson Silva. I don't know if Gustaffson is the guy to exploit that, but he does go for a surprising number of takedowns. I just think the striking could go either way, and Gustaffson can probably ground him if he needs to.
You are referring to 2010 Mousasi. Following his fight with Jardine, Mousasi said that he started to train A LOT in the wrestling department. If you take a look at the OSP fight, you could CLEARLY see a huge improvement in that department for mousasi. not only OSP could not get him down, but additionnaly , mousasi was taking OSP to the ground. Mousasi is not as easy to take down as he was years ago. I don't think that Gustaffson will be able to take Mousasi down easily.
edman5555
01-21-2013, 12:38 PM
You are referring to 2010 Mousasi. Following his fight with Jardine, Mousasi said that he started to train A LOT in the wrestling department. If you take a look at the OSP fight, you could CLEARLY see a huge improvement in that department for mousasi. not only OSP could not get him down, but additionnaly , mousasi was taking OSP to the ground. Mousasi is not as easy to take down as he was years ago. I don't think that Gustaffson will be able to take Mousasi down easily.
He is also working with a camp and coaches now.
MMA_scientist
01-21-2013, 12:39 PM
^^ Maybe. Or maybe he just hasn't fought anyone with good enough takedowns since. He really hasn't been fighting the top guys. I mean, I know that Keith Jardine took him down several times. I know that was a couple years ago... but he has only fought OSP since then (as a TD threat)
poopoo333
01-21-2013, 12:52 PM
I would lay 10u on Gustafsson if he was -175 or better.
trotterz
01-21-2013, 12:53 PM
I am not sure if Gustaffson will be able to take Mousasi down, but he will sur ebe able to put his back agains't the cage and control him from there being the bigger guy. This is what concerns me in this fight and the fact that Mousasi's cardio is questionnable.
This being a 5 rounds fight, and agains't a much bigger guy in Gus, Mouasi could have cardio issues.
poopoo333
02-19-2013, 03:57 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/636.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)
edman5555
02-19-2013, 08:05 PM
What if i give you a ten foot pole?
No. If you give me some binoculars I'll look at it from afar. But not touching it.
edman5555
02-19-2013, 08:36 PM
Lol ok.
edman5555
02-19-2013, 08:37 PM
Those would be funny words to hear fom a women.
poopoo333
02-19-2013, 09:51 PM
I'll put Gus in a parlay if his line is still -250 by fight time. Straight bet...I want -200
poopoo333
02-19-2013, 09:51 PM
It's a 5 round fight...keep that in mind.
poopoo333
03-12-2013, 07:16 PM
This should be the complete card:
Alexander Gustafsson (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/alexander-gustafsson) vs. Gegard Mousasi (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/gegard-mousasi)
Philip De Fries (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/philip-de-fries) vs. Matt Mitrione (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/matt-mitrione)
Mike Easton (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/mike-easton) vs. Brad Pickett (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/brad-pickett)
Ryan Couture (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/ryan-couture) vs. Ross Pearson (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/ross-pearson)
Diego Brandao (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/diego-brandao) vs. Pablo Garza (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/pablo-garza)
Michael Kuiper (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/michael-kuiper) vs. Tom Lawlor (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/tom-lawlor)
Marcus Brimage (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/marcus-brimage) vs. Conor McGregor (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/conor-mcgregor)
Michael Johnson (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/michael-johnson) vs. Reza Madadi (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/reza-madadi)
Akira Corassani (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/akira-corassani) vs. Robert Peralta (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/robert-peralta)
Papy Abedi (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/papy-abedi) vs. Besam Yousef (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/besam-yousef)
Adlan Amagov (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/adlan-amagov) vs. Chris Spang (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/chris-spang)
Ben Alloway (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/ben-alloway) vs. Ryan LaFlare (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/ryan-laflare)
poopoo333
03-12-2013, 07:58 PM
Just watched some vids and I still think Gustafsson has the edge here. However, I think Mousasi has a better chance than I was giving him. Ultimately, I see Gustafsson tiring Mousasi out and being able to get him down and win rounds. I think it goes the decision and Gustafasson takes it. I won't bet Gustafasson -260 though.
Mitrione should be able to win on the feet but I would not rule out a win by De Fries. If he commits to the takedown and can avoid getting caught (and exhausted) I think he has a legit chance at getting the decision or submission win. There is no way I'd lay something like -200 on Mitrione which is where I think he will be...or worse.
I'm too lazy to look at the rest of the fights because they are all foreigners that only get air time on foreign prelim cards for the most part
Is Pearson going to slaughter Couture?
edman5555
03-17-2013, 10:23 AM
Is Pearson going to slaughter Couture?
I was wonderng about that. I dont think pearson should be a -400 fav. Couture did decently against kj noons and noons isnt that bad. He has takedown defense comparable to pearson and striking comparable to pearson.
I like mitrione over de fries. De fries hasnt really impressed me but you make a good point about the wrestling. If he just comes to lean on mitrione he might be able to pull something off. I think kongo had trouble doing that though.
edman5555
03-17-2013, 10:27 AM
Rafael natal was able to take down kuiper. I think lawlor should be able to do the same.
I wonder how michael johnson reza madadi will go down. I thought johnsons takedown defense was good until he might myles jury. After that i domt know what to think. Mezas game is all about the grappling. That cristiano marcello guy beat medadi and he really didnt look that good against the korean guy. He swung a bunch of haymakers and attempted some shitty takedowns.
edman5555
03-17-2013, 10:32 AM
Reza is a swedish wrestli champion. I read this artle written by luke thomas that was an interview with chael sonnen. They spoke about wrestling and how it translated into mma. He said a lot of styles didnt translate well because they werent centered around the takedown. I bet rezas style is one of those because because chael mentioned Stanislav nedkov as a very acco plished wrestler that couldnt make his wrestling translate.
edman5555
03-17-2013, 10:33 AM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/3/10/4086784/chael-sonnen-and-luke-thomas-talk-wrestling-in-mma
poopoo333
03-18-2013, 11:12 AM
Sat 4/6
1003 Mousasi/Gustafsson goes 5 round distance
+140
6:00PM
1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance
-180
I like the distance prop @ +140...thoughts?
edman5555
03-18-2013, 12:12 PM
That's a long time to wait.
I rewatched De Fries last fight against duffee and he did take duffee down. His td looked decent and i wont be surprised to see him take Mitrione down. Not too sure about his cardio if it goes into the third round tho.
poopoo333
03-18-2013, 10:15 PM
Yeah, I think De Fries is worth a play at around ~+300. He sucks so you can't go big on him, but a decent grappler may have a good chance at beating Mitrione. Mitrione is just a very athletic HW with good power.
poopoo333
03-20-2013, 02:33 PM
Gegard Mousasi vs Alexander Gustafsson - 5 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 9 propositions
Sat 4/6
1003 Mousasi/Gustafsson goes 5 round distance
+100
5:30PM
1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance
-140
Sat 4/6
1005 Mousasi wins inside distance
+330
5:30PM
1006 Not Mousasi inside distance
-490
Sat 4/6
1007 Mousasi wins by 5 round decision
+596
5:30PM
1008 Not Mousasi by 5 round decision
-1187
Sat 4/6
1009 Gustafsson wins inside distance
+161
5:30PM
1010 Not Gustafsson inside distance
-211
Sat 4/6
1011 Gustafsson wins by 5 round decision
+162
5:30PM
1012 Not Gustafsson by 5 round decision
-212
Sat 4/6
1013 Mousasi/Gustafsson draw
+9500
5:30PM
1014 Fight not a draw
-27500
Ryan Couture vs Ross Pearson - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 9 propositions
Sat 4/6
1103 Couture/Pearson goes 3 round distance
-170
5:00PM
1104 Fight won't go 3 round distance
+130
Phil De Fries vs Matt Mitrione - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 9 propositions
Sat 4/6
1203 De Fries/Mitrione goes 3 round distance
+250
4:30PM
1204 Fight won't go 3 round distance
-350
Brad Pickett vs Mike Easton - 3 rounds - UFC on Fuel TV 9 propositions
Sat 4/6
1303 Pickett/Easton goes 3 round distance
-260
3:00PM
1304 Fight won't go 3 round distance
+180
Thewisemann
03-21-2013, 08:13 PM
Pickett/Easton??
poopoo333
03-21-2013, 10:03 PM
I like Pickett.
Me too...I think the current line is great.
edman5555
03-23-2013, 11:02 PM
Mitrione/de fries: i see mitrione as having the better standup. Im not sure about wrestling and i wouldnt be suprised if de fries was better on the ground. What do you guys think? Can de fries push mitrione up against the cage? Thats how i see him winning if he does. He tries that in a lot of his fights and he is a big guy. Mitrione is also pretty large and athletic. I would think he would be hard to do that to. Kongo was able to do it a little bit iirc. Kongo is much better than de fries though.
edman5555
03-24-2013, 10:22 PM
Mousasi gustaffson should be intersting. I just watches mousasi st preux and gustaffson shogun. They were both close fights. I wouldnt be suprised if this fight came own to conditioning.
NO one that almost got beat by Keith freaking Jardine is going to beat Gus...........end of story
poopoo333
03-24-2013, 11:36 PM
NO one that almost got beat by Keith freaking Jardine is going to beat Gus...........end of story
Combine that with Mousasi's shitty cardio.
Gus is a lock.
Don't disrespect the Dean of Mean.
edman5555
03-29-2013, 06:03 PM
Conor McGregor -250
Took the words right out of my mouth. National boxing champion. 11 of 12 wins by knockout. Hows his wrestling though?
"Going hard four sessions a day, training to knock him out but making time for my BJJ because he is a solid purple belt" Marcus Brimage.
edman5555
03-29-2013, 06:05 PM
Interested in Papy Abedi, Tom lawlow, Michael Johnson, Ross Pearson and maybe Gegard Mousasi but probably not.
I'm going to have to do some research if I'm going to be in any condition to bet the undercard.
poopoo333
03-29-2013, 10:10 PM
Probably going to play Peralta/Gustafsson parlay big.
edman5555
03-30-2013, 04:23 PM
Why do you feel so confident in peralta?
edman5555
03-30-2013, 08:11 PM
Did some research and found out besam yousef won some amateur boxing competitions. Im thinking about betting papy abedi based on the sole fact that he looks like he can kill someone. His losses are also against good guys. James head was able to catch him standing. Head is also a boxer. I am a little worried that besam can hurt him standing. I do think that anedi might be able to take him down though.
Svino
03-31-2013, 10:25 PM
Alexander Gustafsson cut in training, Commission rep says fight almost definitely cancelled
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/3/31/4167606/alexander-gustafsson-cut-in-training-leaves-ufc-on-fuel-9-headliner
Did the commission rep also say that's gay?
Svino
03-31-2013, 10:47 PM
If that fight gets scratched off the card, there's really nothing else that can replace it as a worthy headliner.
poopoo333
03-31-2013, 10:55 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/3/31/4168864/dana-white-says-alexander-gustafsson-vs-gegard-mousasi-has-not-been
Dana White says Alexander Gustafsson vs. Gegard Mousasi has not been canceled
^^^^^thats a crock of shit. When is the last time ANYONE was cut the week before an event and still fought. Dana's just buying time to find a replacement . I'd bet my left nut Gus aint fighting.
I say ask Glover to step in. Would be a prime-time spot for him and they could hype him toward the title after the fight
Would be a prime-time spot for him and they could hype him toward the title after the fight
Well, he'd have to win. . .
poopoo333
04-01-2013, 10:46 PM
Rumor has it that Wandy is stepping up on 5 days notice to fight Mousasi.
Rumor has it that Wandy is stepping up on 5 days notice to fight Mousasi.
You mean Dana lied, I stunned!
And I'd much rather see that fight anyway
That shit is crazy if it's true.
edman5555
04-02-2013, 08:58 AM
I like wandy versus mousasi much better.
MMA_scientist
04-02-2013, 10:19 AM
nm
poopoo333
04-02-2013, 01:12 PM
Nice April Fools joke Wandy!
Gustafsson is definitely out...it was confirmed today by the commission in that shithole country Sweden.
Nice April Fools joke Wandy!
Gustafsson is definitely out...it was confirmed today by the commission in that shithole country Sweden.
Guess I'm keeping my left nut.....and Dana lied yet again. Dana isnt stupid. No one fights with a cut on their eye a week before a fight. His denial was just buying some time to find a replacement . I hope he realizes that every time he lies, he loses more credibility
poopoo333
04-02-2013, 07:05 PM
LMFAO at the replacement
poopoo333
04-02-2013, 07:26 PM
Gustafsson teammate Ilir Latifi meets Mousasi in UFC on FUEL TV 9 main event (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/04/gustafsson-teammate-ilir-latifi-meets-mousasi-in-ufc-on-fuel-tv-9-main-event)
Hoping Latifi is at least +200. He is very talented and has a legit chance at beating Mousasi...great style match up for him.
I heard Ilir Latifi is really good. He has a blackbelt in judo & bjj and was also an amateur wrestler. Its a close fight , but I believe Latifi can win. I'd put Mousasi at -135
Svino
04-02-2013, 08:38 PM
Gustafsson teammate Ilir Latifi meets Mousasi in UFC on FUEL TV 9 main event (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/04/gustafsson-teammate-ilir-latifi-meets-mousasi-in-ufc-on-fuel-tv-9-main-event)
Hoping Latifi is at least +200. He is very talented and has a legit chance at beating Mousasi...great style match up for him.
Well, how's +1150 sound?
This is a nowin for Mousasi.
True. What's his contract anyway? Anyone know?
edman5555
04-03-2013, 06:03 PM
Latifi:
National team wrestler, Nordic champion, ADCC European champion, Superior Challenge champion
Seems like he will be the better grappler. I wonder what kind of shape he is in though. This should be five rounds. That could hurt him. Either way, the line is f'n ridiculous.
If he was undefeated or had any big wins then maybe the line would be closer. But not only has no one heard of him, but he also has two loses--to Emanuel Newton and to some 11-9 Japanese guy I've never heard of--and he has never beaten anyone with a name. The Newton fight appears to be his biggest fight to date and he lost by UD.
edman5555
04-04-2013, 12:08 PM
If its three rounds he might be worth a bet with points.
Svino
04-04-2013, 01:16 PM
If its three rounds he might be worth a bet with points.
It will be 3 rounds.
http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/04/gustafsson-teammate-ilir-latifi-meets-mousasi-in-ufc-on-fuel-tv-9-main-event
poopoo333
04-05-2013, 11:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOKaQ9Pl8oY&feature=youtu.be
Svino
04-05-2013, 11:56 PM
I wonder what the scouter said about Mcgregor's power level.
edman5555
04-06-2013, 07:34 AM
Damn they looked pissed. I notice mcgegor has a size advantage. I nder what mcgegors takedowm defense is like though.
edman5555
04-06-2013, 07:46 AM
I guess i must be crazy but i think latifi can beat mousasi.
Vandelay
04-06-2013, 10:14 AM
I favor mcgregor for sure. He should have the clear striking advantage, his offensive grappling is solid, and his tdd isnt bad either. When taken down, he does a great job of scrambling back up much like bisping.
poopoo333
04-06-2013, 10:32 AM
Just to let you gays know..this starts in 20 minutes
poopoo333
04-06-2013, 10:33 AM
I guess i must be crazy but i think latifi can beat mousasi.
Have you seen any of his fights? I haven't. Luke and I were kidding.
edman5555
04-06-2013, 10:39 AM
damn i thought it started at 2 pm. Thanks poopoo.
edman5555
04-06-2013, 10:40 AM
Have you seen any of his fights? I haven't. Luke and I were kidding.
still super confident in pickett?
poopoo333
04-06-2013, 10:43 AM
Yeah I really like Pickett.
edman5555
04-06-2013, 10:44 AM
why do you really like him?
Have you seen any of his fights? I haven't. Luke and I were kidding.
I knew Luke was kidding, but I thought you were serious.
So someone on SD proposed Mousasi vs Machida and surprisingly there are a lot of people saying they think Mousasi wins it.
What do y'all think?
edman5555
04-06-2013, 09:13 PM
Hmm it would be a good fight. I think Mousasi is a better striker but I wonder what Machida could pull off in the standup and whether or not he could employ his grappling better than Mousasi. Could be a close one.
I'd be curious to see it but I'd be legitimately surprised if Mousasi won. Not just fucking shocked or anything . . . but surprised.
edman5555
04-07-2013, 07:18 AM
Mousasi might be the more active striker and he also rarely gets hit. He always seems to be super calm.
poopoo333
04-07-2013, 08:31 AM
I'd love to see that match up to be honest. Machida shouldn't get Jones, that's so stupid.
edman5555
04-07-2013, 10:18 AM
Machida Mousasi would be a really good, really even matchup.
I'd love to see that match up to be honest. Machida shouldn't get Jones, that's so stupid.
Well I read the other day that Machida does want to take one more fight instead of just waiting around for Jones to fight Sonnen, take time off to recuperate and then get ready to fight again. So maybe it will happen.
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