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poopoo333
02-12-2013, 01:36 PM
Stephen “Wonderboy” Thompson and Amir Sadollah.

Overeem/JDS planned

Cain vs Bigfoot II planned

Mr. IWS
02-12-2013, 01:40 PM
Love Cain and JDS

SPX
02-12-2013, 01:42 PM
Nice! Gonna be a good event if everyone can stay healthy.

Wonderboy's gonna fuck Amir up.

poopoo333
02-12-2013, 02:03 PM
Love Cain and JDS

Time to bring back the UFC 146 10 unit parlay

JDS/Cain lock

Ludo
02-12-2013, 02:35 PM
Wonderboy's gonna fuck Amir up.

Sigbet?

SPX
02-12-2013, 02:57 PM
Yep.

SPX
02-12-2013, 03:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqJ0nIV34fM





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcvATLQtsNw





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRcCMt51PSE





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKzipsSBqIA

poopoo333
02-12-2013, 03:14 PM
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Stephen+Thompson+UFC+145+Jones+v+Evans+xGyHwqE1eKg l.jpg

SPX
02-12-2013, 03:18 PM
http://www.mma-core.com/gifs/10002064/knockouts_Steven_Thompson_Head_Kicks_Dan_Stittgen_ UFC_143.gif

edman5555
02-12-2013, 04:32 PM
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Stephen+Thompson+UFC+145+Jones+v+Evans+xGyHwqE1eKg l.jpg

Amir will be in trouble if he cant take him down. Though i dont know that it will be all that easy for Wonderboy to tko Amir, he is pretty decent standing. Now that I think about it he was outstriking Hardy up until the point HArdy decided to shoot for takedowns. I guess well have to wait and see what the odds are. Amir will be favored.

SPX
02-12-2013, 05:41 PM
If Amir is favored I'll def be betting Thompson. I think Thompson will be the fave, though.

edman5555
02-12-2013, 05:58 PM
thompson is the better striker and can end it at anytime. Amir is much better on the ground though.

SPX
02-12-2013, 06:01 PM
Amir's takedowns aren't very good, though. That doesn't mean he can't get it down but I think he'll struggle to do it.

I expect this is going to be a kickboxing match with Thompson landing the more meaningful shots over three rounds.

edman5555
02-12-2013, 06:27 PM
Yeah amirs wrestling probably isnt very good but thompsons takedown defense isnt really that great. I wouldnt be suprised if amir has the physical strength advantage as well.

SPX
02-12-2013, 06:30 PM
My guess is that Thompson has been drilling his wrestling and BJJ like a motherfucker. Remember that he's new to MMA. You can expect him to improve a lot in the grappling areas over the first year or two.

zY|
02-12-2013, 07:30 PM
What is Bigfoot going to do to Cain?

Luke
02-12-2013, 07:32 PM
What is Bigfoot going to do to Cain?


Lose

SPX
02-12-2013, 07:33 PM
Knock him the fuck out and become the NEWWWWWWWWW heavyweight champion of the WORLLLLLLLD!

poopoo333
02-12-2013, 07:34 PM
What is Bigfoot going to do to Cain?

Touch his glove before the fight.

MMA_scientist
02-12-2013, 08:34 PM
Cain is a stone cold lock.

edman5555
02-12-2013, 09:32 PM
Call me crazy but i think overeem has a shot against jds. Yeah i know hes going literally pull his pants down and fuck him in the ass.

Luke
02-12-2013, 09:45 PM
This rematch is just retarded. Werdum or Cormier deserve it a lot more..............I know , I know , they were already booked....but I'm sure they'd rather have a title fight.

Ludo
02-13-2013, 01:07 AM
My guess is that Thompson has been drilling his wrestling and BJJ like a motherfucker. Remember that he's new to MMA. You can expect him to improve a lot in the grappling areas over the first year or two.

Amir is probably the bigger guy, not to mention he doesn't necessarily have to take him down. Amir likes to clinch up against the fence and wear on guys too. Thompson's gas tank was shit against Brown if I remember right, and if not for Brown also being tired by the end he may have gotten the finish. Amir has always had a good gas tank, at least until Hardy started wrestling him up, which Thompson won't be doing much of.

SPX
02-13-2013, 01:09 AM
Prepare to pay tribute to Karate in your sig, motherfucker!

Thewisemann
02-13-2013, 02:54 AM
All in on Cain. I will put a good size bet on jds

edman5555
02-13-2013, 03:18 PM
Yeah cain will be a huge favoorite.

Thewisemann
02-13-2013, 05:13 PM
How big do you think?

Luke
02-13-2013, 08:11 PM
How big do you think?


-525

Thewisemann
02-13-2013, 08:37 PM
I think I would bet it

edman5555
02-14-2013, 05:23 PM
if its five rounds cain by tko ko might be a good bet

poopoo333
02-19-2013, 11:15 PM
Sources: Glover Teixeira vs. Ryan Bader booked to UFC 160 on May 25.

,,,,,

edman5555
02-19-2013, 11:22 PM
Interesting...bader has been looking good, he took rampage down pretty well. Glover has a good ground game though. I think his stiking is better too.

mike
02-19-2013, 11:28 PM
all in on texeira

Luke
02-20-2013, 07:58 PM
all in on texeira


+1

SPX
02-20-2013, 08:16 PM
I really think Bader might be able to take him down and lay on top of him.

zY|
02-20-2013, 09:51 PM
This rematch is just retarded. Werdum or Cormier deserve it a lot more..............I know , I know , they were already booked....but I'm sure they'd rather have a title fight.

Cormier won't fight Cain, but yeah, Werdum was the fight.

poopoo333
02-21-2013, 07:41 AM
Maynard-Grant, Nurmagomedov-Trujillo added to UFC 160 in May

Love the Maynard/Grant fight.

Thewisemann
02-21-2013, 04:40 PM
When i talked to Bader he didnt sound like he wanted anything to do with Glover.

Ludo
02-21-2013, 04:42 PM
Bader probably ends up planted in the cage being woken up and asking what happened.

Mr. IWS
02-21-2013, 04:53 PM
Bader probably ends up planted in the cage being woken up and asking what happened.

Tito Ortiz approves.

poopoo333
02-25-2013, 10:14 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/647.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

Mr. IWS
02-26-2013, 09:48 AM
Cain

SPX
02-26-2013, 02:52 PM
What a shitty fucking line though.

poopoo333
02-26-2013, 02:55 PM
Warranted. He should be like -800. All in on Cain/JDS parlay.

SPX
02-26-2013, 03:00 PM
Maybe, but I'm not risking 15u to win 2.86 or whatever it would work out to.

poopoo333
02-26-2013, 07:28 PM
Well set line

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/6582.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

edman5555
02-26-2013, 07:35 PM
Ill will bet overeem if he is on the juice.

SPX
02-26-2013, 07:37 PM
Damn.

edman5555
02-26-2013, 07:40 PM
Well set line

http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/6582.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

It looks like you got the decent line you wanted on jds. Do you know if the athletic commision is still watching overeem during his camp?

poopoo333
02-26-2013, 08:03 PM
Overeem never came off the juice completely.

Anyways, I was hoping for a better line but:

Jon Jones
GSP
Cain
JDS

parlay that.

edman5555
02-26-2013, 08:34 PM
I think overeem will look much better this time around.

SPX
02-26-2013, 08:55 PM
Edman, you're always riding Overeem's dick.

poopoo333
02-26-2013, 09:45 PM
I wanna put $5k on gsp/jds/cain parlay. Who's with me

edman5555
02-26-2013, 09:55 PM
Edman, you're always riding Overeem's dick.

Thats funny because i was just reviewing jens pulvers record. He recently suffered a submission loss. The weight of you riding his dick caused him to tap out.

Luke
02-26-2013, 09:58 PM
Thats funny because i was just reviewing jens pulvers record. He recently suffered a submission loss. The weight of you riding his dick caused him to tap out.


SHOTS FIRED!!!!


::eyes::

edman5555
02-26-2013, 09:59 PM
I wanna put $5k on gsp/jds/cain parlay. Who's with me

Dont do it. Diaz could always catch george with a punch or a sub. Remember how fast he took condits back? Condit is a pretty good grappler. Obviously ill never convince you overeem is a threat to jds. Just consider what might happen of overeem comes in juiced to the gills like he wad back in the day and fights a conservative kickboxing match. That is a fight he could win and he just might try it after getting humbled by bigfoot. He wont be out there with his hands low and his chon waiting on a silver platter. He probably wont gas as bad either if the nevada state athletic commission isnt monitoring his blood for this training camp.

SPX
02-26-2013, 10:01 PM
Thats funny because i was just reviewing jens pulvers record. He recently suffered a submission loss. The weight of you riding his dick caused him to tap out.

Hey, Pulver actually won his last fight.

edman5555
02-26-2013, 10:03 PM
I noticed, i actually was reading his record about an hour ago. It was a funny coincidence. I was suprised he is still fighting. I thought he retired.

Thewisemann
02-26-2013, 10:04 PM
Bet GSP and wait on the rest. Dont tie all that money up its the same payout anyway. No advantage to parlay unless the are on the same card

SPX
02-26-2013, 10:05 PM
I noticed, i actually was reading his record about an hour ago. It was a funny coincidence. I was suprised he is still fighting. I thought he retired.

Nah, bro.

Granted, he's fought some cans, but he actually has a winning record since getting cut from the WEC and has made it to the semi-finals in OneFC's bantamweight tournament.

edman5555
02-26-2013, 10:09 PM
Yeah, he isnt doing bad. I noticed he was in one fc.

SPX
02-26-2013, 10:14 PM
He's going to win the OneFC tournament, get re-signed by the UFC and take the belt from Cruz.

Luke
02-27-2013, 12:01 AM
I actually think Reem has the best chance to win out of the three. His striking is top notch, hes bigger than JDS, and who knows how JDS will react to the tremendous beating he just took.

SPX
02-27-2013, 12:15 AM
JDS is about to beat some black ass.

Thewisemann
02-27-2013, 07:14 AM
No wsy id bet JDS at that line. But he will win.

poopoo333
03-05-2013, 12:54 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/6588.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

SPX
03-05-2013, 05:00 PM
I like Bader at those odds.

edman5555
03-05-2013, 09:23 PM
Same here honestly. Glover is good but bader can take guys down. He took Rampage down a lot...

Luke
03-05-2013, 09:27 PM
Lol ,Bader is going to get killed

SPX
03-05-2013, 09:35 PM
Are you that positive Glover can stop the TD?

Ludo
03-05-2013, 10:01 PM
Same here honestly. Glover is good but bader can take guys down. He took Rampage down a lot...

So did Glover.

edman5555
03-05-2013, 10:45 PM
I thought glover had more trouble taking Rampage down. Regardless it comes down to takedown defense. Glover taking rampage down a little bit doesnt mean Bader can't take Glover down. Not that I know he can take Glover down but you never now.

SPX
03-05-2013, 11:38 PM
I think Bader was more dominant against Rampage than Glover. Whether or not Glover can defend Bader's power double is a really good question, I think.

Luke
03-06-2013, 12:21 AM
Rampage was hurt and overweight against Bader. If they fought again and I knew Page was at full strength ,I'd bet him over Bader in a second. When you have not two bad knees its hard to stop a TD (Bader fight)

Ludo
03-06-2013, 02:30 PM
I thought glover had more trouble taking Rampage down. Regardless it comes down to takedown defense. Glover taking rampage down a little bit doesnt mean Bader can't take Glover down. Not that I know he can take Glover down but you never now.

I didn't say it equates to takedown defense, but you made it seem like Bader taking Rampage down anymore is such a big deal when Glover did it just as easily as Bader did and Glover isn't known for being some great wrestler.

poopoo333
03-06-2013, 02:44 PM
We have not seen Glover's TDD tested by a good wrestler yet...I think this will be closer than the line indicates.

poopoo333
03-06-2013, 08:45 PM
Overeem is "injured" and Mark Hunt wants to step up.

Svino
03-06-2013, 08:50 PM
Not surprised, given:

• His testosterone was "dangerously low" for the Silva fight.
• The Nevada State Athletic Commission won't let him use TRT because of past abuse.
• This fight was supposed to be in Nevada.

SPX
03-06-2013, 08:55 PM
That's gay as FUCK! Are we ever going to get this fight?

And if Hunt does in fact step up he's going to get his ass beat.

edman5555
03-06-2013, 08:59 PM
I bet jds outwrestles hunt. Standing hunt has a shot for sure.

poopoo333
03-06-2013, 09:45 PM
I bet jds outwrestles hunt. Standing hunt has a shot for sure.

I actually agree here

Svino
03-07-2013, 06:08 PM
Apparently (according to Dana), Hunt turned down the JDS fight.

SPX
03-07-2013, 08:08 PM
Really? That's kind of surprising. Hasn't he been requesting a Top 5 opponent?

edman5555
03-07-2013, 10:11 PM
I dont know what ot make of that. From what I read Hunt stated he wanted the JDS fight. maybe he is inured or maybe hunt is hoping to get in a full training camp. That would explain why he might turn it down. Hunt could shoot for getting a win and then fighting for the title.

poopoo333
03-07-2013, 10:46 PM
Mark Hunt and I just got off the phone and had a GREAT conversation!!

-Dana

Luke
03-08-2013, 03:37 PM
I saw Mark Hunt didnt turn down the fight, but wanted more money to fight JDS....which makes sense.

edman5555
03-08-2013, 04:29 PM
Gotta respect Hunt. He gets in through the backdoor via some old pride contract. Everyone says he will get bounced out after 2 fights. He loses his first fight then beats everyone and gets a title shot. Then he demands more money. Watch him win. It wouldn't be that crazy. He has a super strong jaw and hits like a ton of bricks plus hes a former K1 champ. I wouldn't be suprised to see JDS try and take him down, especially after getting wrestle fucked by Cain. He has probably been drilling his wrestling like crazy since then.

SPX
03-08-2013, 06:31 PM
I think it's certainly POSSIBLE that Hunt can land a KO shot and win, but I don't consider it likely. JDS should be -350 at least.

edman5555
03-08-2013, 08:26 PM
I am interested to see what kind of shape hunt shows up in. I never get it when these guys show up with what looks like a beer belly. Wouldnt you want to be in the best shape possible if you were putting your ass on the line? I dont know why they arent all on the dolce diet even if they dont have to cut. I bet the health benefits of is diet would improve performance.

poopoo333
03-09-2013, 07:51 AM
Mark Hunt vs. Junior dos Santos on for UFC 160 (http://t.co/1ZuxIvLoQc)

Mr. IWS
03-09-2013, 09:30 AM
JDS -600

Luke
03-09-2013, 11:47 AM
JDS -600


I'll say -450

edman5555
03-09-2013, 11:49 AM
I might lay something on Hunt. Or a good bet might even be JDS by submission. I think he's a black belt and if the fight goes 5 rounds Hunt will get tired. I wouldn't be suprised to see JDS use some wrestling either. Hunt has a big weakness on the ground.

poopoo333
03-09-2013, 12:52 PM
Won't be a 5 round fight....it's going to be the co-main event of Cain/Bigfoot.

I wish Cain, GSP, and Jones all fought in a 3-4 week time span. That's a parlay lock of the century.

Ludo
03-09-2013, 04:11 PM
I might lay something on Hunt. Or a good bet might even be JDS by submission. I think he's a black belt and if the fight goes 5 rounds Hunt will get tired. I wouldn't be suprised to see JDS use some wrestling either. Hunt has a big weakness on the ground.

I didn't see a whole lot of quality ground work when Cain took JDS down, he mostly tried to scoot to the fence and get up and when he couldn't get up he didn't look so good. It may have something to do with just having had his face caved in, but I don't really think JDS is the kind of guy who puts a whole lot of time into grappling sessions during camp.

edman5555
03-09-2013, 04:28 PM
I felt the same way but he still is a black belt and hunt is mediocre on the ground, if that.

Ludo
03-10-2013, 03:03 AM
I felt the same way but he still is a black belt and hunt is mediocre on the ground, if that.

I fear you may be putting too much stock in paper credentials again. Hunt just toughed it out on the ground for quite a while with Struve, who despite being a brown belt to JDS' black belt, has been a much more effective grappler in MMA. JDS hasn't really needed to grapple a whole lot, but Struve has been a very sound fighter on the ground both with ground and pound and submissions. Belt color aside, in a straight up grappling match I would take Struve to beat JDS.

edman5555
03-10-2013, 07:56 AM
Struve still went for the armbar without the arm. You might be right though.

poopoo333
03-10-2013, 11:39 AM
Struve still went for the armbar without the arm. You might be right though.

I think it's because he was exhausted and had absolutely no respect for Hunt's ground game...I really think he went into that fight thinking he would instantly sub Hunt once it went to the mat.

mike
03-10-2013, 12:20 PM
I think it's because he was exhausted and had absolutely no respect for Hunt's ground game...I really think he went into that fight thinking he would instantly sub Hunt once it went to the mat.

i agree. at the end of the day, the guy has terrible fight iq. struve vs jds pure grappling, i would pick jds tho. hes stronger, more athletic and probably gonna dominate position. unless struve can sub jds from bottom. jds bbj is probably better than Hunt. jds just got his black belt, iirc.

edman5555
03-10-2013, 02:29 PM
I wouldn't be surpised to see JDS try and submit a gassed Hunt. I think Hunts cardio isn't close to the level of JDS. As bad as JDS was ragdolled by Cain he still stayed in there for 25 minutes with the heavyweight that has the best cardio in the division in what was basically a wrestling match. It would be a good strategy for JDS to go out there and wrestle Hunt in order to exhaust him. Why fight to Hunts strengths and stand with him? He is a K1 champion with huge knockout power and an iron chin.

On top of that JDS might be out to make a point about his wrestling. He might even have the desire to go out there and outgrapple someone else just because he was so thoroughly dominated in his last outing. I would think that the first thing JDS did in training since after he healed up was work on his wrestling..

edman5555
03-11-2013, 05:56 PM
Gunnar Nelson Versus Miky Pyle. I think Pyle wins though I did miss part of Gunnars fight against Jorge Santiago.

Who wins?

zY|
03-11-2013, 09:03 PM
Sorry, Junior dos Santos will assassinate Mark Hunt.

poopoo333
03-12-2013, 12:02 AM
(http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/03/james-te-huna-replaces-ryan-bader-faces-glover-teixeira-at-ufc-160) James Te Huna replaces Ryan Bader, faces Glover Teixeira at UFC 160 (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/03/james-te-huna-replaces-ryan-bader-faces-glover-teixeira-at-ufc-160)

SPX
03-12-2013, 01:04 AM
Is no match-up safe?

Ludo
03-12-2013, 01:19 AM
Is no match-up safe?

It couldn't end up being any worse than last year. I personally like this matchup better to be honest. Te Huna probably has a better shot at beating Glover and it'll probably be pretty awesome for all of three minutes.

SPX
03-12-2013, 01:25 AM
I was actually really interested to see if Glover could defend Bader's power double. But yeah, for pure fireworks, this is an improvement.

poopoo333
03-12-2013, 03:42 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/6739.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

edman5555
03-12-2013, 03:49 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/6739.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

Seems about right to me.

Luke
03-12-2013, 03:51 PM
Seems about right to me.

Me too. Not sure what I predicted the line at but I think it was in that range

SPX
03-12-2013, 03:52 PM
I was hoping for JDS -350. I wonder if money will come in on Hunt?

Luke
03-12-2013, 03:54 PM
I was hoping for JDS -350. I wonder if money will come in on Hunt?

I have my doubts. Shit will probably go up. Wouldnt surprise me to see it at -600, like Cain

edman5555
03-12-2013, 03:57 PM
Gunnar Nelson Versus Miky Pyle. I think Pyle wins though I did miss part of Gunnars fight against Jorge Santiago.

Who wins?

What do you guys think about this one?

SPX
03-12-2013, 04:02 PM
I have my doubts. Shit will probably go up. Wouldnt surprise me to see it at -600, like Cain

Sadly, that's probably true. I'm just hoping that the fact that this is pretty much guaranteed to be a stand up war + Hunt's KO power will drive JDS's line down. But it's probably wishful thinking.

SPX
03-12-2013, 04:03 PM
What do you guys think about this one?

I need to watch some tape on Nelson, but Pyle looked flat against James Head before the KO. Maybe he was just having an off night. . .

poopoo333
03-12-2013, 04:10 PM
Gunnar

edman5555
03-12-2013, 05:06 PM
I need to watch some tape on Nelson, but Pyle looked flat against James Head before the KO. Maybe he was just having an off night. . .

James Head isn't that bad.

edman5555
03-12-2013, 05:07 PM
He beat Brian Ebersole and tapped out Pappy Abedi pretty quick. He also managed a decision over Gerald Harris. I read that was an odd fight though because he won it by throwing strikes off his back and Harris did almost nothing from up top.

SPX
03-12-2013, 07:53 PM
I agree Head isn't bad. My point is that Pyle just didn't look like his usual self in that fight. He definitely didn't look like the guy who murderlized Hathaway and put Funch in a bodybag.

Luke
03-17-2013, 01:53 PM
Heavyweight
Cain Velasquez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cain_Velasquez) (c)
vs.
Antonio Silva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Silva_%28fighter%29)



Note 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_160#endnote_UFC_160)


Heavyweight
Junior dos Santos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_dos_Santos)
vs.
Mark Hunt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hunt)






Light Heavyweight
Glover Teixeira (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glover_Teixeira)
vs.
James Te-Huna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Te-Huna)






Lightweight
Gray Maynard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Maynard)
vs.
TJ Grant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TJ_Grant)






Welterweight
Mike Pyle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pyle_%28fighter%29)
vs.
Gunnar Nelson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnar_Nelson_%28fighter%29)






Welterweight
Amir Sadollah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Sadollah)
vs.
Stephen Thompson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Thompson_%28fighter%29)






Lightweight
Khabib Nurmagomedov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabib_Nurmagomedov)
vs.
Abel Trujillo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abel_Trujillo)




And KJ Noons-Cerrone possible

poopoo333
03-17-2013, 03:14 PM
Grant/Maynard...I love it.

Nurmagomedov/Trujillo will be violent.

edman5555
03-17-2013, 03:20 PM
I agree Head isn't bad. My point is that Pyle just didn't look like his usual self in that fight. He definitely didn't look like the guy who murderlized Hathaway and put Funch in a bodybag.

Could be because Head is a good striker and he wanted to be cautious. If I remember correctly he was staggered by Head before he knocked him out. I just rewatched part of Gunnar/Santiago and I may have underestimated him. I saw him before in the third round when he was a little more tired and thats probably why he looked bad.

edman5555
05-04-2013, 01:32 PM
I just watched a promo video for this and JDS was talking about how he intends to takedown Hunt. I can't wait to see the line on JDS by submission.

zY|
05-04-2013, 10:18 PM
I don't think he subs Hunt. Hunt seems to have a knack for slithering out of bad positions (obviously straight armbar to McCorkle as an exception). Plus I've never even seen JDS attempt a submission.

trotterz
05-05-2013, 12:31 AM
Pretty sure hunt was subbed in a couple minutes by a middle weight not too long ago

zY|
05-05-2013, 10:42 AM
Actually that was 4 years ago. And I think McCorkle subbing him is far more damning than being subbed by Mousasi. I guess JDS could sub him, I'm sure he's plenty competent on the ground, but I doubt he's secretly some surprise ground wizard. That's just not his game.

poopoo333
05-05-2013, 01:16 PM
Mark Hunt might take JDS' pants down in the middle of the octagon and start sucking his dick until JDS taps.

edman5555
05-05-2013, 02:43 PM
I dont think mccorkle is really that great to be honest. Jds is supposedly a black brlt in jiu jitsu.

edman5555
05-18-2013, 11:15 PM
Looking at Dennis Bermudez to take down Holloway and dominate him there..poireir tapped him out super quick. He was a white belt in bjj at the time. I know because i read it in an interview.
Bermudez was an all american wrestler. He should be able to get holloway down.

edman5555
05-18-2013, 11:16 PM
I am also thinking Cerrone should win..

poopoo333
05-19-2013, 12:27 PM
Cerrone and Noons will be close imo. I'll be on Noons.

Svino
05-19-2013, 01:49 PM
Looking at the 5d odds, I think I like some favorites here. Namely Teixeira over Te Huna at -280, Story over Pyle at -170, and Maynard over Grant at -200.

Story is a better (and tougher) fighter than the guys Pyle has been knocking out. Maynard will probably be able to work his old wrestling game on Grant, who has historically weak TDD. As with Pyle, Te Huna's win streak has come against guys that don't seem to be anywhere near Teixeira's level, whereas this is probably a step down for Grover after Rampage.

poopoo333
05-19-2013, 02:14 PM
Yeah, Glover is going to win easy.

Vandelay
05-19-2013, 05:05 PM
ORiginally I was liking Hunt over JDS, but this late arrival to the US is probably gonna suck for him. Wish he would have gotten his visa sooner

poopoo333
05-19-2013, 06:01 PM
Cain/Bigfoot under 1.5 rounds is +155

Vandelay
05-19-2013, 06:18 PM
I like Glover fight not to go distance at -150 and Rick Story at -170. Gonna do a bit of research tonight on the fights.

edman5555
05-19-2013, 08:56 PM
Te hunas a fucking animal.

Luke
05-19-2013, 09:35 PM
Te hunas a fucking animal.

Are you talking about your mom's Tuna?

Luke
05-19-2013, 10:09 PM
I think a Cain ITD, JDS, and Glover parlay at +115 is a close to a lock as you can get

Vandelay
05-19-2013, 10:20 PM
Pyle seems to be on the down swing. He was losing against head, before head decided to take a flush knee from the thai plum clinch. He was having some difficulty against neer. He got tooled by Rory.

None of these guys fight the way story does tho. Rick will walk you down until you are against the cage. He always comes forward head down, throwing leather. Occasionally he mixes in takedowns as well which is what he does well and what he did to beat Hendricks. Pyles chin seems to be a huge downfall of his. Whereas Storys chin is impressive as hell. Walks through everything.

There is a chance that pyle can mix in takedowns while managing to outstrike Story, but I favor Storys chin, aggression, wrestling, and power to win out.

Line is set pretty well right now tho so unless Storys line comes down, I dont think I will touch it.

poopoo333
05-20-2013, 12:51 AM
I think the line is well set too. I am picking Story to win though, but his defensive wrestling always scares me.

edman5555
05-20-2013, 06:56 AM
Pyles standup is also something to worry about.

edman5555
05-20-2013, 06:27 PM
Who do you guys think wins between Bermudez and Holloway and what do you think the line will be?

poopoo333
05-20-2013, 06:29 PM
Bermudez. I think he will be -150ish

edman5555
05-20-2013, 06:38 PM
Really? I think he might very well crush Holloway. Holloways ground game is shitty. I think his takedown defense is somewhat reasonable but Bermudez is non stop with his takedowns and his chin is really good. I am hoping to get a good line on Dennis.

So far I like Bermudez, Cain, maybe Cerrone and maybe Te Huna.

Cain for obvious reasons.

Cerrone I give the advantage to in the ground game and ability to mix it up. Look what Masvidal did to KJ. Even Couture gave him a lot of trouble. I don't think Noons is really that good. He is too one dimensional. That said, I know your on him Poopoo. Can you explain what you see? Takedown defense + better standup = win?

Te huna I like just because he is super tough, has huge power in his hands and good wrestling. I could see him pressuring Glover and winning. The holes I see in it are Tex's offensive ability. He could obviously knock Te huna out or submit him. I know he is a really good grappler.

Vandelay
05-20-2013, 09:14 PM
Bermudez will be in the -400 to -500 range. Put the blunt down pp.

edman5555
05-20-2013, 09:16 PM
Bermudez will be in the -400 to -500 range. Put the blunt down pp.

Seriously?

edman5555
05-20-2013, 09:17 PM
I was thinking he would open -200 to -300. He will probably hover around -300.

edman5555
05-20-2013, 09:18 PM
so does everyone think cain stops bigfoot insie the distance?

trotterz
05-20-2013, 09:34 PM
Bermudez will be in the -400 to -500 range. Put the blunt down pp.

no way bermudez will be -400 -500
IMO he will be closer to -200 max

Svino
05-20-2013, 09:36 PM
I agree with the -200 to -300 range for Bermudez over Holloway.

Cain should stop Bigfoot, but I'd probably need the line better than -400 before I'd bet it.

edman5555
05-20-2013, 09:45 PM
I agree with the -200 to -300 range for Bermudez over Holloway.

Cain should stop Bigfoot, but I'd probably need the line better than -400 before I'd bet it.

Yeah I'm thinking about parlays. I am very confident in Cain and Bermudez. Though I do worry about Cain get Reem'd.

Vandelay
05-20-2013, 09:49 PM
The guy that got outstruck and taken down by Leonard fucking Garcia is looking at good odds against a legitimate wrestler and decent striker?

edman5555
05-20-2013, 09:51 PM
He did get the win over Leonard..I know what your saying though. I think Dennis kills him. That said, Holloway has done well in the UFC so we could get a decent line.

poopoo333
05-20-2013, 10:34 PM
I overlooked the Garcia fight..Hollaway had hype going into that fight. Bermudez wins easy and will be a big favorite imo

Svino
05-21-2013, 04:23 PM
Lines are out at 5d. (Bermudez opened at -210 and dropped rapidly to -280.)

SPX
05-21-2013, 04:31 PM
Just did a Bermudez/Tex parlay.

SPX
05-21-2013, 06:19 PM
Took story at -150. I figure that's bettable.

SPX
05-21-2013, 06:19 PM
Any thoughts on Bowles/Roop? I figure Bowles might be worth it.

Svino
05-21-2013, 08:14 PM
Huh, Te Huna says he doesn't cut any weight to make 205. I would not have guessed that at all.

http://mmakanvas.ninemsn.com.au/articles/news/435/the-fight-files-james-te-hunas-life-inside-the-cage-part-two.html

SPX
05-22-2013, 05:22 PM
Hey Ludo, sig bet on Burrell/Thompson?

Ludo
05-22-2013, 08:53 PM
Hey Ludo, sig bet on Burrell/Thompson?

You know it. One week?

Ludo
05-22-2013, 08:57 PM
By the way, this card sucks dick for betting.

SPX
05-22-2013, 09:17 PM
You know it. One week?

Sure.

SPX
05-22-2013, 09:17 PM
By the way, this card sucks dick for betting.

I dunno, I'm thinking Bowles, Thompson, JDS, Bermudez and Story might all hold value.

Ludo
05-22-2013, 09:51 PM
I dunno, I'm thinking Bowles, Thompson, JDS, Bermudez and Story might all hold value.

Bowles, maybe. Thompson is up against another striker with some power so I'm not really looking to bet a guy who's 6-1 in his career against someone in his same age bracket who also is an accomplished type striker. I don't like betting heavyweights in any capacity, especially ones that are 3 to 1 favorites or worse because the division is so volatile. Bermudez had value at -250, but at -300 I just don't see alot of value. Story is a perennial underachiever and he worries Me against someone like Pyle who has that same high pressure style.

SPX
05-22-2013, 09:55 PM
I agree with all of that, but I guess these strike me as those types of fights where you can come up with all kinds of reasons about why the other guy is going to win, but exactly what you think is going to happen is what does happen. Of all those, Story is probably the only one I'd be too worried about, and maybe Thompson as well in all honesty though this is going to be a kickboxing match and he SHOULD be the better kickboxer.

I will point out though that Hunt is just not going to beat JDS. Yes, it's possible that he could. He has that huge right hand. But even at -370 (if you have an SB account, which I do) I think he's worth it.

Vandelay
05-22-2013, 10:41 PM
Why does everyone like JDS so much? sure he is a pretty good offensive boxer for heavyweight, but his defense is god awful. He relies on speed too much and his footwork is shoddy at best. He leaves his chin exposed a lot, doesnt take angles at all, and has shown no submission game to speak of at all.

On the contrary, Hunt has a damn near invincible chin, power, and better overall striking game. He doesnt simply rely on physical gifts like JDS, but has the technique and understanding of the strike game to go along with his toughness.

SPX
05-22-2013, 10:49 PM
I think JDS is better technically than you're giving him credit for. If Rothwell can take hunt to a relatively close decision, JDS should be able to beat him handily barring a super-punch that puts his lights out.

Vandelay
05-22-2013, 11:04 PM
Offensively he isnt bad for a heavyweight, but he just leaves so many holes and thats dangerous to do with such a good striker as Hunt. MArk mixes in kicks to go along with his devestating left hook and right hand. JDS meanwhile, is more traditional with jabs, overhands and left hooks. But he is always thinking offense first and doesnt give two shits about protecting himself.

poopoo333
05-22-2013, 11:38 PM
If Hunt doesn't win in round 1 he is finished imo. I also think JDS can/probably will take Hunt down. I'd parlay Glover/Cain/JDS huge but I can't lay a lot on JDS. I have gone 0-4 in Hunt's last 4.

Vandelay
05-22-2013, 11:54 PM
Yea he probably can take him down at will. I doubt he subs or even stops him tho. So JDS by Dec?

Thewisemann
05-23-2013, 06:44 AM
I won't be suprised to see JDS win by TKO, sub or dec. But I think dec is most likely.

poopoo333
05-23-2013, 09:46 AM
I think JDS might take Hunt down, get his back, pull Hunt's shorts down, and tongue Hunt's asshole until Hunt ejaculates on the Bud Light logo.

edman5555
05-23-2013, 06:36 PM
I think JDS might take Hunt down, get his back, pull Hunt's shorts down, and tongue Hunt's asshole until Hunt ejaculates on the Bud Light logo.

This is a very gay prediction. +5000.

edman5555
05-23-2013, 06:43 PM
JDS started out as a jiu jitsu guy. He has a black belt as well.

Another thing I just noticed. Most of JDS's opponents have been very good BJJ artist or wrestlers. Its kinda hard to say he should be submitting more people. On top of that his standup has been pretty devastating so he doesn't really need to tap anyone out.

Hes had 10 fights in the ufc. Werdum, Gonzaga, Nelson, Mir. Four of them are very good black belts. Cain Velasquez twice and Shane Carwin, both good wrestlers. So seven out of ten fights he was in a position where he probably couldn't sub his opponent even if he was really good at it. The other ones were cro cop, struve and Yvel. Yvel and struve got knocked out in a combined total of 3 minutes.

You guys might be right, he could suck on the ground but he is a black belt. Mccorkle tapped Hunt off not too long ago as well.

I have a bet on JDS by submission by the way. That is why I am so hopeful here. I got him at +1150. Couldn't get a lot down though, just a partial unit. They adjusted the line to +700 or so and I put down some more.

edman5555
05-23-2013, 08:06 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/5/9/4313326/near-death-experiences-and-sports-psychologists-the-rough-start-to-donald-cerrone-year

edman5555
05-23-2013, 08:07 PM
Interview with Cerrone.

Summary:

He almost died rock climbing. He is ok. He chokes before fights. He hired a sports psychologist to help him. He used to eat lots of candy and would cut 30 pounds before a fight. Now he weighs 174. He is in a better place mentally and physically.

SPX
05-23-2013, 08:10 PM
If he gets mental jitters then it's certainly never seemed to affect his performances. He doesn't win every fight but the dude's always been a beast.

edman5555
05-23-2013, 08:21 PM
Im thinking about betting him over Noons. He is a better fighter and he sounds like he is in better form than normal. That should equal a win for him. That said, Noons does have decent takedown defense and good striking. He has a path to victory.

I am pretty confident in Bermudez. Holloway makes me slightly nervous though. He is pretty decent and has some good power. He knocked out that Justin Lawrence kid with a body shot. Lawrence is an experienced kickboxer as well.

SPX
05-24-2013, 02:21 PM
Any thoughts on Trujillo/Nurm?

poopoo333
05-24-2013, 02:53 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mma--ufc-heavyweight-junior-dos-santos-fighting-worth-health-risks-181312353.html

Vandelay
05-24-2013, 10:07 PM
hmmm. Not maynard by sub is like -1300, I think that is pretty damn enticing. When was the last time Maynard even attempted a sub? against Huerta?

poopoo333
05-24-2013, 10:58 PM
Yah...Maynard is not subbing Grant...that line is insane.

poopoo333
05-25-2013, 10:08 AM
Haven't bet anything yet but...


I like Roop at the odds. This is more of a Bowles fade.

I might put a flyer on Trujillo but the safer bet is probably the fight not going the distance.

Colton Smith should win a decision but don't like laying -200 on some marine

Bermudez should win but don't like -300 on him. Might parlay him small with JDS, which are two guys I am hesistant to lay the juice on.

I like Story tonight a lot, but the factor that is holding me back is his defensive wrestling. Kampmann took this into account as well (Pyle's teammate) and Pyle should know that is what he needs to do to win. This is keeping me from a large bet.

I will be betting Noons +3.5 at +150 and him straight at +260. He will give Cerrone trouble imo.

I love TJ Grant tonight. I am going to be betting a minimum of 5u on him.

Glover should win tonight easily. I might parlay him with Cain ITD. This pays -157.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 10:41 AM
Haven't bet anything yet but...


I like Roop at the odds. This is more of a Bowles fade.

I might put a flyer on Trujillo but the safer bet is probably the fight not going the distance.

Colton Smith should win a decision but don't like laying -200 on some marine

Bermudez should win but don't like -300 on him. Might parlay him small with JDS, which are two guys I am hesistant to lay the juice on.

I like Story tonight a lot, but the factor that is holding me back is his defensive wrestling. Kampmann took this into account as well (Pyle's teammate) and Pyle should know that is what he needs to do to win. This is keeping me from a large bet.

I will be betting Noons +3.5 at +150 and him straight at +260. He will give Cerrone trouble imo.

I love TJ Grant tonight. I am going to be betting a minimum of 5u on him.

Glover should win tonight easily. I might parlay him with Cain ITD. This pays -157.

Damn. I was thinking about betting both Cerrone and Bermudez at those odds. Not the odds I like but I think they both win.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 10:41 AM
Khabib seems pretty good too. I don't see what Abel Trujillo is better at.

mike
05-25-2013, 10:46 AM
i was gonna bet Grant too but he was taken down by Dunham and Maynard is better wrestler than Dunham. this fight will determine the next guy for the belt so Maynard could go into wrestling mode. If he does, i'm not so sure Grant will be able stop the tds and/or get back up after taken down. He will probably win the 3rd round if Maynard had win the first 2 rounds and fight safe the 3rd round. Also the tds will be harder to get in the 3rd when Maynard is tired and Grant is probably going to land more on the feet. He's also got a fantastic chin.

poopoo333
05-25-2013, 11:50 AM
I think Grant has looked great at LW, especially his TDD. At WW, he had horrible TDD. Then he moved down to LW and got put against wrestlers and dominated. I am done betting against him at LW because of his past at WW when it comes to fighting guys with TDs.

When it comes down to it, I really feel like Grant is on the upswing of his career and Maynard is going to begin declining soon.

Luke
05-25-2013, 11:55 AM
First stream to be posted. I expect many reeps, I looked far and wide for this one

http://sportsbun.com/watch-ufc-160-l...ilva-2-online/ (http://sportsbun.com/watch-ufc-160-live-streaming-cain-velasquez-vs-bigfoot-silva-2-online/)

Luke
05-25-2013, 11:57 AM
I think Cerrone dominates Noons. Maynard has a title shot on the line for him but like poopoo said , I think he's on the decline. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Grant wins

MMA_scientist
05-25-2013, 12:03 PM
I think Noons will give Cerrone a lot of trouble. Cerrone gets hit a lot, I think Noons can land enough on him.

I also like Grant.

I think Bermudez wins easy.

I am thinking of fading Wonderboy too, his grappling was so bad that he can't possibly have gotten competent yet.

I am worried about JDS. He should win, but I don't have a lot of confidence.

Cain is the lock of card obviously, after that I like Bermudez. I think Burrell, Grant, Hunt, and Noons all have a good shot at the upset.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 12:37 PM
I think Grant has looked great at LW, especially his TDD. At WW, he had horrible TDD. Then he moved down to LW and got put against wrestlers and dominated. I am done betting against him at LW because of his past at WW when it comes to fighting guys with TDs.

When it comes down to it, I really feel like Grant is on the upswing of his career and Maynard is going to begin declining soon.

I don't know if Maynard is going downhill but he is at a new camp. He could be improving.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 12:40 PM
I think Noons will give Cerrone a lot of trouble. Cerrone gets hit a lot, I think Noons can land enough on him.

I also like Grant.

I think Bermudez wins easy.

I am thinking of fading Wonderboy too, his grappling was so bad that he can't possibly have gotten competent yet.

I am worried about JDS. He should win, but I don't have a lot of confidence.

Cain is the lock of card obviously, after that I like Bermudez. I think Burrell, Grant, Hunt, and Noons all have a good shot at the upset.

I see your point about noons. Maybe I should just layoff. Cerrone sounds like he is in a good place for this fight but his line is a bit steep. The reason I wanted to bet him is he is much more well rounded and his kicking game is good. The problem is I don't know if Cerrone will wrestle. Masvidal was able to dominate Noons by mixing it up and I feel like Cerrone has all the skills Masvidal does.

SPX
05-25-2013, 12:41 PM
I think Cerrone will win, and probably decisively. Noons will make it to the decision, and it probably won't be a blowout, but I think Cerrone is just the all around better fighter.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 01:28 PM
Now that I think about it Cerrone did get tooled by Nate diaz and his style is boxing. Noons seems like he uses his boxing a lot. Maybe noons can do to Cerrone what diaz did. The only difference is Cerrone is much better than Noons on the ground.

SPX
05-25-2013, 01:33 PM
My thing with Noons is that he's just a disappointment. I used to be kind of high on him and thought he could be a top 10 sort of dude, but he never wins against truly top tier guys. His best win is Diaz and it wasn't even really a win.

I mean, I guess did he beat Yves Edwards a while back. That's pretty good. But his record is really just okay.

Luke
05-25-2013, 01:40 PM
I think Cerrone wins easily but no way would I lay 3 to 1. I think the jump from Strikeforce to the UFC is giving many of these fighters extra motivation and that could be why why we've seen many upsets. Still, Noons is a bum.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 01:41 PM
I hear ya. I want to bet cerrone but Noons has me concerned. If I knew Cerrone was going to take him down I would bet it. Maybe I still will.

I am also considering Bowles. He has been out for 18 months and Roop has been looking decent. I think its a bad matchup for Roop though. Bowles has so much power standing.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 01:41 PM
I think Cerrone wins easily but no way would I lay 3 to 1. I think the jump from Strikeforce to the UFC is giving many of these fighters extra motivation and that could be why why we've seen many upsets. Still, Noons is a bum.

Usually when you call someone a bum they lose. Jardine, Vera, etc. However you are also saying there could be an upset. Tough call.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 01:42 PM
I am convinced Bermudez steamrolls Holloway though. MAybe I should just make one giant bet on that.

Vandelay
05-25-2013, 02:18 PM
Only concern for me with Bermudez is his striking defense. He seems to get dropped in almost all his fights. Holloway has beaten a who's who in the FW division so far (Pat Schilling - a scorching 0-2 in UFC before he was cut?, Justin Lawrence - 1-2, and Leonard Garcia - Fuckin awful and he arguably lost this fight). He also doesnt possess much power so barring this rail thin 145 pounder with questionable wrestling and bjj just starching Bermudez...this one shouldnt be that close.

Thewisemann
05-25-2013, 03:10 PM
All my money is currently wagered (Just cashed out 4000) and if undercard bets come through I may put more on Roop+3.5, bermudez and Story. Hell maybe Glover too

poopoo333
05-25-2013, 04:24 PM
I don't see how Glover loses to be honest.

Thewisemann
05-25-2013, 04:33 PM
Wow definatly shoulda waited til today to bet Maynard

edman5555
05-25-2013, 04:35 PM
I don't see how Glover loses to be honest.

Te huna lands a big punch or wrestles him.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 04:36 PM
Wow definatly shoulda waited til today to bet Maynard

Who do you have in Cerrone-Noons Wiseman?

Thewisemann
05-25-2013, 05:09 PM
Not sure. Two fights stand out to me. Cerrone vs Nate Diaz and Noons vs Masvidal. So we have seen Noons struggle against a versatile striker that mixes in takedowns and Cerrone strughle against a boxer. I think Cerrone will probably win but it will be a close fight. I'm on Noons though at +250 I think its a good bet

Vandelay
05-25-2013, 05:17 PM
Noons doesnt replicate the pressure that diaz does which nullifies kicks well.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 05:30 PM
Noons doesnt replicate the pressure that diaz does which nullifies kicks well.

Nice. Thanks. Good point.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 05:30 PM
Not sure. Two fights stand out to me. Cerrone vs Nate Diaz and Noons vs Masvidal. So we have seen Noons struggle against a versatile striker that mixes in takedowns and Cerrone strughle against a boxer. I think Cerrone will probably win but it will be a close fight. I'm on Noons though at +250 I think its a good bet

I was having the exact same problem.

Svino
05-25-2013, 06:50 PM
I'd be a little worried about how Cerrone looked against Pettis, too.

edman5555
05-25-2013, 06:57 PM
I'd be a little worried about how Cerrone looked against Pettis, too.

Did he really look that bad? He got nailed in the liver. It happens.

Svino
05-25-2013, 07:27 PM
Did he really look that bad? He got nailed in the liver. It happens.

He didn't look good. Pettis was putting hands and feet on him even before the liver shot.

Vandelay
05-26-2013, 01:08 AM
Forest Griffin retired...I enjoyed making money off of his lossed. darn.

edman5555
05-26-2013, 09:09 AM
Only concern for me with Bermudez is his striking defense. He seems to get dropped in almost all his fights. Holloway has beaten a who's who in the FW division so far (Pat Schilling - a scorching 0-2 in UFC before he was cut?, Justin Lawrence - 1-2, and Leonard Garcia - Fuckin awful and he arguably lost this fight). He also doesnt possess much power so barring this rail thin 145 pounder with questionable wrestling and bjj just starching Bermudez...this one shouldnt be that close.

Crazy how this one turned out.

Vandelay
05-26-2013, 10:16 AM
Feel free to neg me on that one luke. Boy was i wrong. I would do it myself if I could

edman5555
05-26-2013, 11:03 AM
Feel free to neg me on that one luke. Boy was i wrong. I would do it myself if I could

I guess the schilling fight was a good example of him stuffing takedowns. Garcia was able to get him down but it wasn't until the end of the fight. Similar to what Bermudez was able to do. I think the issue is Bermudez was too small and couldn't get on the inside with his striking.

poopoo333
05-26-2013, 11:33 AM
Sucked being on the wrong side of two controversial decisions back to back last night (Holloway/Story). Oh well.

Fights to make after last night...

Cain/JDS III ...this is set for this year, but I don't want to see it yet to be honest. Would like to see each guy fight one more fight.

Grant/Bendo...Very interesting fight, I am going to bet Grant but Henderson will win via controversial split decision of course.

Ok now that the fights that are set in stone are made...the ones I want to see (that make sense with timing).

Bigfoot Silva vs Stefan Struve
Mark Hunt vs Frank Mir (I fully expect them to make Mir/Barnett though)
Glover vs Phil Davis
Gray Maynard vs RDA
Cerrone vs Josh Thomson
Noons vs Makdessi
Story vs Waldburger
Pyle vs winner of High/Silva

Mr. IWS
05-26-2013, 11:38 AM
I kinda wanna see Hunt vs Nelson.

poopoo333
05-26-2013, 11:41 AM
I kinda wanna see Hunt vs Nelson.

I would love it, but Roy might ruin the fat guy slug fest we all want to see with clinching and TDs.

Mr. IWS
05-26-2013, 11:45 AM
Speaking of fat guys, Hunt looked in really good shape last night. Better then I can ever remember.

Luke
05-26-2013, 12:11 PM
Glover said he wants the winner of Rashad-Hendo......I think

Luke
05-26-2013, 12:15 PM
Feel free to neg me on that one luke. Boy was i wrong. I would do it myself if I could

Haha, I dont neg people for being wrong. I'm the one that needs negged for having fights right and not betting or winning a thing on them.

SPX
05-26-2013, 12:35 PM
Forest Griffin retired...I enjoyed making money off of his lossed. darn.

Really? Damn. I really thought he had one or two left in him. At least a couple of legacy fights.

edman5555
05-26-2013, 12:35 PM
Haha, I dont neg people for being wrong. I'm the one that needs negged for having fights right and not betting or winning a thing on them.

Just give us a list of fighters whom you consider a bum.

edman5555
05-26-2013, 12:36 PM
Really? Damn. I really thought he had one or two left in him. At least a couple of legacy fights.

Or just a couple paydays. He has to be making good money. If I were him I would just ask for some easy ones to get paid. He probably can't do that though.

Vandelay
05-26-2013, 01:17 PM
Cpl fight observations I wrote down last night.

MAx Holloway - Good striking, uses angles well in defense which also helps with takedowns. Struggles with kicks to his legs. Fades towards end of fights. Definitely lost rd 3 and I believe he did the same in Leonard fight. Likes to threaten with guillotines on takedowns and does a good job of controlling head of opponent during takedowns.
Dennis Bermudez - Gets rocked in every fight. Heart. Doesnt transition between striking and wrestling well.

Mike Pyle - Good offensive guard. Bad striking defense and chin. Good cardio. mediocre wrestling.
Rick Story - Hell of a chin, good offensive striking and wrestling, questionable cardio.

Cerrone - Great Chin, needs space to work his offense, mixed in takedowns and bjj.
Noons - Gassed, low offensive output, good chin, good defensive bjj.

Teixera - Good Offensive boxing, Good fight IQ, Solid Defense, Offensive wrestling a question mark.
Te Huna - Bjj weak point, Good chin, Decent tdd.

edman5555
05-26-2013, 01:27 PM
Cpl fight observations I wrote down last night.

MAx Holloway - Good striking, uses angles well in defense which also helps with takedowns. Struggles with kicks to his legs. Fades towards end of fights. Definitely lost rd 3 and I believe he did the same in Leonard fight. Likes to threaten with guillotines on takedowns and does a good job of controlling head of opponent during takedowns.
Dennis Bermudez - Gets rocked in every fight. Heart. Doesnt transition between striking and wrestling well.

Mike Pyle - Good offensive guard. Bad striking defense and chin. Good cardio. mediocre wrestling.
Rick Story - Hell of a chin, good offensive striking and wrestling, questionable cardio.

Cerrone - Great Chin, needs space to work his offense, mixed in takedowns and bjj.
Noons - Gassed, low offensive output, good chin, good defensive bjj.

Teixera - Good Offensive boxing, Good fight IQ, Solid Defense, Offensive wrestling a question mark.
Te Huna - Bjj weak point, Good chin, Decent tdd.

I agree with you on Bermudez not mixing things in well but we should consider that he was at about a 6'' height disadvantage against a solid striker in Holloway. That makes it a lot harder to mix them in because you really have to lunge to get inside.

edman5555
05-26-2013, 01:27 PM
Oh and story's cardio was probably effected by his flurry at the end of round one. He was pushing really hard to finish and he tired himself out.

Thewisemann
05-26-2013, 01:32 PM
And Noons for sure had an adrenaline dump

edman5555
05-26-2013, 01:34 PM
Yeah probably. Though he looked the same against Masvidal. He kept getting outstruck and taken down. He look bewildered towards the end of the fight just like he did against Cerrone. Bottom line is Cerrone is a better fighter. I kinda feel bad for noons because Cerrone is a really tough first fight in the ufc.

Vandelay
05-26-2013, 01:46 PM
Story gassed like that against Thiago Alves to if I remember correctly. He loses the third round in many of his fights so I think either cardio is an issue or he comes out too hard in rd 1 in every fight.

edman5555
05-26-2013, 02:07 PM
Maybe both. He doesn't look super muscled but he isn't exactly skinny. He also swings with everything behind it. If anything I think its that. Remember how he was swinging in round? If you don't you should watch it again. He was really grunting and swinging has hard as possible.

Vandelay
05-26-2013, 02:12 PM
He always starts out that way, putting everthing into his punches. Probably part of the reason his tdd is questionable at best. Looking back at his record. His wins are either decisions or first round finishes for the most part. a cpl 2nd round finishes early in rd 2

edman5555
05-26-2013, 02:14 PM
Good point about his takedown defense.

poopoo333
05-27-2013, 09:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qku-i826u2A

edman5555
05-27-2013, 11:24 AM
Watching some Cavalcante fight videos for a refresher. Wondering what everyone else thinks about the matchup..

Cavalcante vs Thiago Silva:

At the moment I feel like Cavalcante should be favored but I am going to watch some tape and see if that changes my mind.

I figure Cavalcante has the takedown defense and IIRC more diverse striking.

poopoo333
05-27-2013, 11:29 AM
My analysis of the fight:

Thiago Silva fucking sucks.

edman5555
05-27-2013, 11:41 AM
My analysis of the fight:

Thiago Silva fucking sucks.

Technical. Crisp. Precise.

Luke
05-27-2013, 11:46 AM
My analysis of the fight:

Thiago Silva fucking sucks.


So does your mom

edman5555
05-27-2013, 12:06 PM
After watching him fight Hendo and Antwain Britt I am not a hundred percent convinced. He seems to throw big haymakers. Granted, they land but I could see Thiago outstriking him.

Vandelay
05-27-2013, 01:44 PM
After watching him fight Hendo and Antwain Britt I am not a hundred percent convinced. He seems to throw big haymakers. Granted, they land but I could see Thiago outstriking him.

uhhh...Thiago has some of the worst striking in LHW division. It is awful. only pause for concern is the layoff.

edman5555
05-27-2013, 02:54 PM
He almost put away rashad evans...

Vandelay
05-27-2013, 03:40 PM
Yea a gassed evans who is chinny at best. He gets outstruck in almost every one of his fights. Nedkov, gus, vera, machida. He throws looping punches, has a suspect chin, and simply tries to brawl with people.

Vandelay
05-27-2013, 03:40 PM
Maybe he doesnt have some of the worst striking in LHW, but it's not good.

Ludo
05-28-2013, 03:24 PM
Mark Hunt's toe:
http://i42.tinypic.com/18k95c.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/979701_10201487643576290_1103885313_n.jpg?oh=d05ad a02da22a0064f7e9363a884842c&oe=51A727E5&__gda__=1369925272_1dc54c2f5eaf0615a58a0d5b608cb5e 8

poopoo333
05-28-2013, 03:32 PM
The top two winners at UFC 160 (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fight-card/124073/ufc-160-velasquez-vs-bigfoot-2) were also the top two disclosed earners.
UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122504/cain-velasquez) and former champ Junior dos Santos won the feature bouts at Saturday night's event at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, setting up an expected trilogy fight.
Velasquez earned a flat fee of $400,000 for his first-round finish of Antonio Silva (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122502/antonio-silva). Dos Santos took home $240,000 for his third-round knockout of Mark Hunt (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122607/mark-hunt), which includes a $120,000 win bonus.
The Nevada Athletic Commission released the list of disclosed paydays Tuesday. These do not include any potential pay-per-view percentage bonuses, promotional fees, or discretionary bonuses given out by the company, which are not publicly disclosed.
They also don't include the evening's announced fight bonuses. (http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/5/26/4367028/ufc-160-bonuses-junior-dos-santos-mark-hunt-t-j-grant-and-glover)Dos Santos and Hunt won fight of the hight; T.J. Grant (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122606/t-j-grant) knockout of the night and Glover Teixeira (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/129074/glover-teixeira) submission of the night. Each bonus winner won took home an additional $50,000.
Total gate revenues for the event were $1,533,000.
Full salary list:
Cain Velasaquez $400,000
Antonio Silva $75,000
Junior dos Santos $240,000 (includes $120,000 win bonus)
Mark Hunt $160,000
Glover Teixeira $48,000 ($24,000 bonus)
James Te Huna (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/129579/james-te-huna) $30,000
T.J. Grant $50,000 ($25,000 bonus)
Gray Maynard (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122537/gray-maynard) $45,000
Donald Cerrone (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122525/donald-cerrone) $82,000 ($41,000 bonus)
K.J. Noons (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122539/k-j-noons) $41,000
Mike Pyle (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122587/mike-pyle) $84,000 ($42,000 bonus)
Rick Story (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/127156/rick-story) $27,000
Denis Bermudez $28,000 ($14,000 bonus)
Max Holloway (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/150860/max-holloway) $14,000
Robert Whittaker (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/167540/robert-whittaker) $30,000 ($15,000 bonus)
Colton Smith (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/130237/colton-smith)$15,000
Khabib Nurmagomedov (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/149146/khabib-nurmagomedov) $28,000 ($14,000 bonus)
Abel Trujillo (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/158092/abel-trujillo) $8,000
Stephen Thompson (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/151061/stephen-thompson) $16,000 ($8,000 bonus)
Nah-Shon Burrell (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/131839/nah-shon-burrell) $9,000
George Roop (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122484/george-roop) $26,000 ($13,000 bonus)
Brian Bowles (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122467/brian-bowles) $19,000
Jeremy Stephens (http://www.sbnation.com/mma/fighter/122545/jeremy-stephens) $48,000 ($24,000 bonus)
Esteven Payan $10,000

SPX
05-28-2013, 03:47 PM
Why the fuck is JDS making so much less than Cain? He's been in the UFC LONGER than Cain and both have held the belt!

Ludo
05-28-2013, 04:32 PM
Why the fuck is JDS making so much less than Cain? He's been in the UFC LONGER than Cain and both have held the belt!

Because Cain is the champion. JDS made $400,000 when he defended against Velasquez at UFC155.