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edman5555
02-26-2013, 10:07 PM
Arlovski vs Anthony Johnson
Tyson nam vs Marlon Moraes
Josh Burkman vs Aaron Simpson
David Brance vs Paulo Filho
Gesius Cavalcante vs Justin Gaethje
Alexandre Pimentel vs Rick Glenn
Waylon Lowe vs Cameron Dollar

This is actually a really good card. Paulo filho is still alive. Who knew.

SPX
02-26-2013, 10:13 PM
Curious to see the line on the Simpson/Burkman fight.

edman5555
02-26-2013, 10:14 PM
Same here. I am also curious to see who else gets added to the card. I read jon fitch signed with wsof.

SPX
02-26-2013, 10:17 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Fitch will beat whoever he fights.

Luke
02-26-2013, 11:58 PM
Weird seeing Arlovski fighting at 170

Luke
02-26-2013, 11:58 PM
And speaking of dead..........where the fuck is Sean Sherk?

SPX
02-27-2013, 12:07 AM
Pretty sure Sean Sherk is retired. It's been too long. He's been saying for a while that as long as "his injuries are healed up he's coming back . . . probably sometime this summer." But I pretty much don't believe it now.

Honestly, I think he realizes that he's gotten older and the division has passed him by. He'd rather go out on a win (even though most people don't think he won that fight).

Mr. IWS
02-27-2013, 08:44 AM
And speaking of dead..........where the fuck is Sean Sherk?

I thought he was still running down Las Vegas Blvd from the NSAC piss testers after his last fight.

Luke
02-28-2013, 12:34 AM
I thought he was still running down Las Vegas Blvd from the NSAC piss testers after his last fight.


BOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::lmao::

Thewisemann
03-10-2013, 01:45 PM
Thoughts on Dollar/Lowe and Branch/Filho?

edman5555
03-10-2013, 01:59 PM
Weird seeing Arlovski fighting at 170

I laughed at this one. You don't post bets much anymore but you post some funnies. On a serious note I think Arlovski can win this. AJ is a big guy but Arlovski is probably bigger. It should be interesting to see how he performs against him. According to wiki Andre weighs about 247 pounds. AJ started at F'in 170. It's just too funny. Think he will be able to outgrapple Arlovski?

Another little thing I remember is an article I read about a Jon Jones tweet. He said he was jealous of the amount of time Greg Jackson was spending with Andre Arlovski. Maybe we will see a new and improved Arlovski. He isn't a bad fighter and hes been doing well recently. Obviously he hasn't been fighting top 10 guys or anything but he is still winning. With the size advantage he should have I will probably throw a unit down on him if he is a decent dog. I expect him to be at least a small dog but who knows. He is a heavyweight fighting a former 170 pounder.

edman5555
03-10-2013, 02:14 PM
Thoughts on Dollar/Lowe and Branch/Filho?

I thought Filho had retired until I saw him here. I don't know what to expect from him. I can still remember when he showed up high to fight Chael Sonnen. He is a good fighter but I would guess Branch is the guy at the top of his game if either one of them is in this fight. I just checked Sherdog and Norman Paraisy beat him. I don't think he is anything special. He also has a loss to 12 and 16 fighter Jackson Mora. I looked over JAckson Moras record and he has been beaten by a few guys with 2-5 fights. That was in 2011. Ronny Markes beat him in 2011. He isn't really that great. He is just a smothering wrestler/grappler though he is good at what he does. After all that he fights to a draw with Satoshi Isshi and TKO's Murilo Rua. The Rua win is his best performance if you go by just his record. Issi is a really good Judoka but that is a grappler versus grappler battle. Now that I think of it that is what Branch is as well, a grappler. I think this fight could come down to wrestling. I don't get the impression that Filhos that great striker but Branch is no Peter Aerts so who knows. I started out making a case against Filho but who knows, maybe he can win. He's the better grappler of the two. Maybe I will play him...it could be worth it to check out his other fights and see if he looks stoned.

I know Waylon Lowe is a strong stocky wrestler that is hard to take down. Lentz was losing to him two rounds to zero going into the third of their fight according to Sherdog. Cameron looks like a skinny guy in his sherdog picture. He also has a few chokes, a flying triangle choke to boot. Usually you have to be skinny to pull off one of those. I looked over Cameron Dollars record and all of his wins since 2010 have been against guys with 5-15 total fights and losing or close to losing records. He has been finishing them all though and hes been doing it with submissions. Lowes last loss was against Lentz by choke. I don't know here. Lowe will probably be the favorite but I will play him if he is a dog.

edman5555
03-10-2013, 02:25 PM
Igor Gracie is also fighting Richard Patishnock.

Gracie is obviously a high level black belt in jiu jitsu. I noticed he competes a lot in No gi and has won titles there. That should translate better to MMA. Patishnock is 25 years old and he had his first amateur fight in 2010. So he started MMA when he was about 22. I don't know what he did before then. That could be the deal breaker in this one. If he had no fighting experience before I will bet Igor over him because Igor would have a much better base as well as more experience in MMA and against better competition. Ok I found a better database for Patishnock. It turns out his amatuer MMA career goes back to 2007. So hes been fighting MMA since he was 18 or so....

Well I can't find Patishnocks gym listed but I think he is fighting out of New Jersey. Patishnock has not fought in 11 months due to Hurricane Sandy. Ok time for a shower.

poopoo333
03-10-2013, 02:35 PM
Waylon Lowe and Dave Branch. Lowe's cardio sucks though.

Thewisemann
03-10-2013, 02:39 PM
I wonder what kind of lines we will get

edman5555
03-10-2013, 02:40 PM
I can see why you pick those guys. I do wonder if Filho can take Branch down and control him. Branch's wrestling isn't too bad. He kept Rich Attonito at bay IIRC. Gerald Harris had his way with him though. It looks like he had a close fight with Isshii. Later on I will try and find his fights and watch them.

edman5555
03-11-2013, 09:53 PM
I just read dave branch won the pan ams in jiu jitsu. He is a renzo gracie black belt. I think he will probab
Y edge out filho. I read filho looked like absolute shit againt paraisy. He even said he was retiring about a year ago. Then he knocked out rus and apparentl decided to keep fighting. I watched the rus knockout. He swarmed him throwing wild and crazy punches.

edman5555
03-12-2013, 10:30 PM
I just watched most of the ishi filho fight. I thought ishi wn. Filho held up ishiis arm after the decision, i think he knew who won. Filho looked to be in decent shape but not as good as isshi. That wasin september of 2011. His last fight wince then was september of 2012. I have to wonder what kind of shape he is in. I also noticed in both the ishii and rua fights that filho swings a lot of haymakers.

Luke
03-12-2013, 10:39 PM
Arlovski vs Anthony Johnson
Tyson nam vs Marlon Moraes
Josh Burkman vs Aaron Simpson
David Brance vs Paulo Filho
Gesius Cavalcante vs Justin Gaethje
Alexandre Pimentel vs Rick Glenn
Waylon Lowe vs Cameron Dollar

This is actually a really good card. Paulo filho is still alive. Who knew.


Is this suppose to be Branch?

edman5555
03-13-2013, 07:06 AM
Yes

Luke
03-13-2013, 02:26 PM
Okay. Was lost for a second

poopoo333
03-19-2013, 10:52 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/659.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

Thewisemann
03-19-2013, 10:59 PM
On AA, Branch and Simpson

SPX
03-19-2013, 11:24 PM
I'm thinking Simpson is probably good, even at those odds. But that's how I felt about Harris when he fought Burkman, too.

Luke
03-20-2013, 12:36 AM
Seen rumors Rumble weighs around 245

SPX
03-20-2013, 12:46 AM
I've also heard he's big as fuck. LOL at him ever competing at WW.

poopoo333
03-20-2013, 09:39 AM
Arlovski at +160

edman5555
03-20-2013, 12:13 PM
I kinda like branch in this one. Filho has gone downhill but I worry a little that branch just isn't that great


The rumor about rumble is coming from arlovski. He said he saw him and he looked to be about 245 pounds.

poopoo333
03-20-2013, 12:15 PM
I like Branch and will probably bet him to win a unit or two...hoping some money comes in on Filho.

SPX
03-20-2013, 01:19 PM
Anyone have thoughts on the Moraes/Nam fight?

mike
03-20-2013, 02:16 PM
i think it will be a striking battle and moraes is the better striker imo. but it is a 5 rounds fight and Nam has power looks like his chin is solid. also dont know how good moraes cardio is in the later rounds. i put a bet on moraes at -140.

SPX
03-20-2013, 02:22 PM
The only time I've seen Moraes fight was against Torres, and it was a pretty impressive performance. I have never seen Nam fight, but I do know he knocked out Eduardo Dantas. Not sure if that was a fluke or not, though.

I should watch some tape.

poopoo333
03-20-2013, 02:36 PM
I should watch some tape.

Yeah I have to do this too but....

blah

SPX
03-20-2013, 03:50 PM
Yeah I have to do this too but....

blah

I literally haven't done it in like 2 years. But I'm trying to get back on the wagon.

edman5555
03-20-2013, 04:45 PM
I usually post a messaeg saying I am going to watch some tape then I don't watch very much tape.

SPX
03-20-2013, 05:44 PM
I would really like to make enough betting every month to cover my rent. I know if I'm going to do that though I will need to start paying more attention and doing a lot more research. A bigger bankroll also wouldn't hurt. I need hundred dollar units.

edman5555
03-20-2013, 06:17 PM
On AA, Branch and Simpson

Harris is probably as good of a wrestler as simpson and burkman did fine wrestling with him. Burkman was a state champion in high school.

SPX
03-20-2013, 06:26 PM
What I have to wonder about that fight, is did Harris look shitty or did Burkman look good? I'm really not sure.

edman5555
03-20-2013, 06:34 PM
I think i might bet moraes. He is a brown belt in jiu jitsu and a two time national champion in muay thai. He moved his camp from the armory in brazil to frankie edgar/almeidas gym(renzos i think) and claims to be training his ass off.

I read about nams knockout over duantas and it sounds like dantas threw three flying knees in a row and got countered on the last one. Duantas is a really good fighter and nams best win by far. If it was as flukey as it sounds he might be at a serious disadvantage to moraes.

From what i have read nam isnt that great of a wrestler so he could be forced to stand where i would have to give the advantage to moares.

edman5555
03-20-2013, 06:37 PM
What I have to wonder about that fight, is did Harris look shitty or did Burkman look good? I'm really not sure.

Good question. I dont know. I read the play by plays. My thing with simpson is that he really isnt that great he is just a good wrestler and if burkman is a decent wrestler with a good all around game he might make it close.

edman5555
03-20-2013, 06:42 PM
Good question. I dont know. I read the play by plays. My thing with simpson is that he really isnt that great he is just a good wrestler and if burkman is a decent wrestler with a good all around game he might make it close.

Burkmans got nine wins by sub but most of them were in what looks like a tournament from ten years ago. Since the he has only guillotined a few guys. Funfact: he is married to the 2010 yoga champion. She is hot.

His record doesnt really look that great to be honest. He will probably get beat.

edman5555
03-20-2013, 06:44 PM
Damn i am now realizing how awesome all these lines were when they opened.

edman5555
03-20-2013, 06:48 PM
I like Branch and will probably bet him to win a unit or two...hoping some money comes in on Filho.

Branch was outwrestled for three rounds by harris. He did takedown palhares in the first round of their fight. What makes you think filho cant get him down? Are you just fading filho?

edman5555
03-20-2013, 06:52 PM
Anyone ever remember arlovski being outwrestled? I cant remember it happening but on the other hand nobody ever put him up against a good wrestler. Sorry for the giant edman. I keep posting things as they come to me. You know how i am.

Luke
03-20-2013, 07:16 PM
Anyone ever remember arlovski being outwrestled? I cant remember it happening but on the other hand nobody ever put him up against a good wrestler. Sorry for the giant edman. I keep posting things as they come to me. You know how i am.

Other thing the ever comes to my mind when thinking about AA is him getting KO'd time after time with his class chin. I dont "remember" him getting out wrestled but that doesnt mean it hasnt happened

Luke
03-20-2013, 07:16 PM
Burkmans got nine wins by sub but most of them were in what looks like a tournament from ten years ago. Since the he has only guillotined a few guys. Funfact: he is married to the 2010 yoga champion. She is hot.

His record doesnt really look that great to be honest. He will probably get beat.

WTF is a yoga champion?

edman5555
03-20-2013, 08:15 PM
A chick that can hold her legs behind her head.

Luke
03-20-2013, 08:38 PM
A chick that can hold her legs behind her head.


I had a gf that could do that......they didnt give her a her a champ, they called her a slut

poopoo333
03-21-2013, 09:45 AM
Panic attack delays Paulo Filho's WSOF arrival (http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/3/20/4129850/panic-attack-delays-paulo-filhos-arrival-in-new-jersey-for-world)

edman5555
03-21-2013, 12:05 PM
All in on branch

SPX
03-21-2013, 01:18 PM
Feeling jealous of anyone who got Branch at -105 now.

edman5555
03-21-2013, 03:14 PM
Damn. 105

poopoo333
03-21-2013, 03:44 PM
Thinking about laying the -245 here

SPX
03-21-2013, 03:53 PM
The shit's just getting ridiculous at this point. I mean, -245 for a UFC washout against a guy who TKOd Ninja Rua in his last fight? Ugh.

edman5555
03-21-2013, 04:59 PM
He also had a panic attack before boarding the plane. Unless someone made that up which is entirely possible. Maybe he just missed his flight. I bet branch for three units.

SPX
03-21-2013, 05:08 PM
At what line?

SPX
03-21-2013, 05:33 PM
After careful consideration, I think I'm leaning AJ here.

KO Power + Strong Wrestling - Glass Jaw = Potential Win

MMA_scientist
03-21-2013, 05:36 PM
I think AJ will gas out. You get fucking tired clinching with big guys, it burns way more energy than expected. He gasses out at WW, he probably has about a 45 second window of explosion as a HW. That said, Arlovski is horrible, so AJ will probably win.

SPX
03-21-2013, 05:44 PM
Yeah, AJ could gas. And to AA's credit, he has not lost a fight since getting cut from SF. Then again, the only guy of note he has fought was Sylvia.

I really think it's a toss up. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see AA pull it out, but I have a vague feeling that AJ's going to get the KO.

SPX
03-21-2013, 05:56 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/fights/6714.png

SPX
03-21-2013, 05:56 PM
Grabbed Lowe at -300.

edman5555
03-21-2013, 09:48 PM
After careful consideration, I think I'm leaning AJ here.

KO Power + Strong Wrestling - Glass Jaw = Potential Win

Lol at you breakng it down equation style.

edman5555
03-21-2013, 09:50 PM
Now that aa's line is even i habe little interest nut at plus 160 he looked good. Nobody knows what aj will look like at 250 pounds. I wonder how slow he is because AA is pretty fast. It could come down to wrestling.

SPX
03-21-2013, 09:57 PM
Lol at you breakng it down equation style.

And that will be all the math you're getting out of me today.

poopoo333
03-21-2013, 10:00 PM
AJ/AA has "stay away" all over it.

But that's no fun.

How about the o/u? It's set at 1.5 rounds and it's a fairly close line.

SPX
03-21-2013, 10:35 PM
I think that's about accurate because I could easily see it ending by KO in 15 seconds OR ending up being kind of boring and going into the later rounds.

poopoo333
03-21-2013, 10:42 PM
I'll be betting Burkman here..I think he keeps it close.

edman5555
03-22-2013, 12:10 PM
I agree spx. Aa might fight very conservatively to avoid ajs power.

SPX
03-22-2013, 01:57 PM
I think AA is definitely going to look to stay away from any of AJ's power punches. The real question, for me, is whether AJ is going to let AA set the pace or whether he's going to try to just rush in on AA and put it on him.

mike
03-22-2013, 02:43 PM
AJ looked huge at conference. hes fast but adding all that weight might slow him down so im not even sure hes the faster guy. his cardio will suffer also. i think he will have 1 round to finish arlovski. after that, arlovski gonna take over. hell arlovski is the better striker of the 2 if u ask me.

edman5555
03-22-2013, 03:06 PM
Gotta wonder if aj can take arlovski down.

SPX
03-22-2013, 07:00 PM
He's been taken down before.

SPX
03-22-2013, 08:05 PM
http://www3.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20130322032438_IMG_4951.JPG




http://www3.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20130322032718_IMG_4972.JPG




http://www3.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20130322032746_IMG_4980.JPG

SPX
03-22-2013, 08:06 PM
Rumble looks like he don't even give a fuck.

edman5555
03-22-2013, 10:17 PM
This fucking asshole used to try and fight at 170. Now he is fightng heavyweight. Dickhead.

Luke
03-22-2013, 11:10 PM
I wonder what Rumble "really" weighed when he use to cut to 170

Luke
03-22-2013, 11:16 PM
James Toney was the middleweight champ (160) for years in boxing and fights at around 240 now. These weight cuts ruin your career

SPX
03-23-2013, 12:03 AM
This fucking asshole used to try and fight at 170. Now he is fightng heavyweight. Dickhead.

BOL. Yeah, no shit. He was the Gleison Tibau of the WW division. Except Gleison actually makes weight.

SPX
03-23-2013, 12:04 AM
James Toney was the middleweight champ (160) for years in boxing and fights at around 240 now. These weight cuts ruin your career

Never been a fan of weight cutting. . .

edman5555
03-23-2013, 07:02 AM
James Toney was the middleweight champ (160) for years in boxing and fights at around 240 now. These weight cuts ruin your career

What do you mean by that?

edman5555
03-23-2013, 07:06 AM
BOL. Yeah, no shit. He was the Gleison Tibau of the WW division. Except Gleison actually makes weight.

I wonder how much the people of their respective weight classes hate guys like anthony johnson. Its almost cheating. How about dan hardy? He must hate aj. Aj told everyone he was going to stand and bang in that fight then he wrestle fucked him for three rounds while weighing 200+ pounds.

Vandelay
03-23-2013, 09:36 AM
Event in jeopardy of being cancelled due to cage issues with mat and corner pads

edman5555
03-23-2013, 10:37 AM
Kidding me

edman5555
03-23-2013, 10:42 AM
Event in jeopardy of being cancelled due to cage issues with mat and corner pads

Source?

poopoo333
03-23-2013, 10:47 AM
It was reported last night and is true but it's pretty set in stone the event IS going to happen.

edman5555
03-23-2013, 11:30 AM
Ive been reading about justin gaethje. He is 7-0 both as an amateur and a pro. Most of his pro fights are against guys with one or two fights with the exception of drew fickett who he knocket out in twelve secods. Fickett has been knocked out in six of his last seven fights.

He is going up against gz cavalcante. It seems like a huge step up in competetion. He has basically been righting cans now he is going up against a real pro with good wrestling. I might have to take cavalcante here. What do you guys think?

Luke
03-23-2013, 12:33 PM
What do you mean by that?

Constantly gaining and losing weight....not sure how to say this........ makes your body age much faster . Its also hard on your organs which will end up slowing your recovery time, reflexes , etc. If you look at fighters that have fought well into their 40s ,it has been fighters who have taken care of themselves and constantly stayed at the same weight range. Rumble's career will be over before he ever hits 35 because of these cuts

Luke
03-23-2013, 12:34 PM
I wonder how much the people of their respective weight classes hate guys like anthony johnson. Its almost cheating. How about dan hardy? He must hate aj. Aj told everyone he was going to stand and bang in that fight then he wrestle fucked him for three rounds while weighing 200+ pounds.


Why are you up so damn early on a Saturday?

edman5555
03-23-2013, 12:51 PM
Constantly gaining and losing weight....not sure how to say this........ makes your body age much faster . Its also hard on your organs which will end up slowing your recovery time, reflexes , etc. If you look at fighters that have fought well into their 40s ,it has been fighters who have taken care of themselves and constantly stayed at the same weight range. Rumble's career will be over before he ever hits 35 because of these cuts

Really? What else makes your body age much faster?

edman5555
03-23-2013, 12:52 PM
Why are you up so damn early on a Saturday?

Went to bed early

mike
03-23-2013, 01:00 PM
Constantly gaining and losing weight....not sure how to say this........ makes your body age much faster . Its also hard on your organs which will end up slowing your recovery time, reflexes , etc. If you look at fighters that have fought well into their 40s ,it has been fighters who have taken care of themselves and constantly stayed at the same weight range. Rumble's career will be over before he ever hits 35 because of these cuts
what i dont get is why a professional fighter doesnt know this. even if he only planned to fight for a few years, cutting weight the way he did is never a good idea. In Rumble's case, Wouldnt it make more sense to start fighting at Middleweight instead of WElter? He can fight lower tier guys, hone his skills while not having to cut so much weight. Instead of using his size to defeat his opponents, which was pretty much what he did at welter, he shoulda fight at MW where he would have to use his skills to beat them. That would force him to train proper techniques, instead of relying on size. Then when he start beating higher level guys, and getting into title talks, by that time he would have acquired a good amount of skills to go with his athleticism and size advantage. Now if he then decides to cut weight and fight for title contention, he can still do it but it would probably be a lil less taxing since he wouldnt be fighting as often against the top guys. He cut weight to fight against guys he probably didnt need to cut weight to beat them and screw up his body.

Luke
03-23-2013, 01:29 PM
Really? What else makes your body age much faster?

Alcohol, drugs, cigs, lack of exercise.

SPX
03-23-2013, 01:43 PM
I wonder how much the people of their respective weight classes hate guys like anthony johnson. Its almost cheating. How about dan hardy? He must hate aj. Aj told everyone he was going to stand and bang in that fight then he wrestle fucked him for three rounds while weighing 200+ pounds.

Yeah, I have often felt that with certain guys who take weight cutting to the extreme, it negates the purpose of weight classes. I mean, weight classes are to make sure that guys of similar size/weight fight each other. Like you say, to try to beat the system and gain such an extreme advantage by cutting loads of weight is almost like cheating.

SPX
03-23-2013, 02:18 PM
Dantas vs Nam



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvn901Tc-2o

edman5555
03-23-2013, 03:10 PM
Dantas was really pressing forward. I wonder if he underestimated nam.

SPX
03-23-2013, 03:10 PM
Probably. He didn't seem to have any respect for his power, that's for sure.

edman5555
03-23-2013, 03:10 PM
Alcohol, drugs, cigs, lack of exercise.

Damn i am a drinker. I used to smoke but i quit. I wonder how much the alcohol really gets ya. Sometimes i think about quitting all together. Might be good. I am thirty uears old now.

edman5555
03-23-2013, 03:12 PM
Probably. He didn't seem to have any respect for his power, that's for sure.

I feel like moraes should have all the advantages but nam looks like he is a good striker in his own right. Moraes was also able to take down torres and work in his guard for a bit. I feel like he takes it but i worry about nams power.

SPX
03-23-2013, 03:15 PM
My main concern about Moraes is that he has lost to his fair share of no names with less than sterling records. He's not an undefeated wunderkind.

edman5555
03-23-2013, 04:12 PM
My main concern about Moraes is that he has lost to his fair share of no names with less than sterling records. He's not an undefeated wunderkind.

Yeah the Ralph Acosta fight worries me. He doesn't appear to be some world beater. Nam has some similar losses on his resume as well. Honestly this fight looks pretty close. I just see Nam as being this guy who is good on the feet and picked up a flukey win over Dantas. I could be wrong though. I do think he has good standup. I watched his fight against Keola Silva (2-0) and he dropped him a few times but lost in the grappling department. That fight is one of the reasons I consider his Dantas win a bit flukey. He lost to a 2-0 guy.

I watched Moraes fight against Davids Tauraviscius. He was winning that one pretty handily untl David reversed the course of the fight. He tagged Taur on the feet repeatidly. Got him to the ground, took his back and almost had the rear naked. Then Taur reversed and jumped on the arm triangle. It was actually a really impressive reversal.

I think Moraes is the more well rounde fighter. Muay thai champ, brown belt in jiu jitsu. He is now training with Almeida/Gracies camp. I think this is something that happened very recently so maybe we can see some improvement in his game. I'll probably bet him.

I have money on branch already. I didn't post it yet. How does everyone see this going? Do you think Filhos panic attack was real? Maybe he missed his flight and some reporter decided to call it a panic attack.

SPX
03-23-2013, 08:05 PM
Okay Edman, you've convinced me. I'm going to bet Moraes.

As for Branch, I honestly have not seen Filho fight since he was talking to ghosts against Chael. But his best days do seem to be behind him.

edman5555
03-23-2013, 08:17 PM
Okay Edman, you've convinced me. I'm going to bet Moraes.

As for Branch, I honestly have not seen Filho fight since he was talking to ghosts against Chael. But his best days do seem to be behind him.

Well I havent bet him. He could def lose. Nam packs some power in his hands. I was just trying to discuss. If I win my other bets I will bet Nam.

SPX
03-23-2013, 08:25 PM
WTF? Now you're going to bet Nam?

edman5555
03-23-2013, 08:39 PM
No I am not going to bet Nam.

SPX
03-23-2013, 08:49 PM
Nigga, you JUST said:

"If I win my other bets I will bet Nam."

edman5555
03-23-2013, 08:59 PM
Shit I meant Moraes. I got confused. Sorry, negro.

SPX
03-23-2013, 09:00 PM
Gotcha.

edman5555
03-23-2013, 09:01 PM
I am trying to get a stream of this. I am on Firstrow. You have a stream?

SPX
03-23-2013, 09:02 PM
Nah, I actually have NBC Sports.

edman5555
03-23-2013, 09:03 PM
Is it on now?

SPX
03-23-2013, 09:05 PM
Not yet. 30 minutes.

SPX
03-23-2013, 09:06 PM
Damn, I just saw that the Lowe/Dollar fight already went down. I thought it was on the main card.

Oh well, at least I won. Should've loaded up. I knew -300 was a gift line.

edman5555
03-23-2013, 09:16 PM
Anyone going to go on chat? SPX?

SPX
03-23-2013, 09:22 PM
Yeah, when the broadcast starts I'll be in there.

SPX
03-26-2013, 02:31 PM
(http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/03/gerald-harris-jon-fitchs-potential-wsof-title-shot-straight-up-ridiculous) Gerald Harris: Jon Fitch's potential WSOF title shot 'straight-up ridiculous' (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/03/gerald-harris-jon-fitchs-potential-wsof-title-shot-straight-up-ridiculous)
After thinking about I think he's probably right. Fitch should have to fight at least once in the division before getting a crack at the belt.

edman5555
03-26-2013, 03:04 PM
Yes and no. He is the highest ranked welterweight. I could def see burkman beating him though. I wish we had proprs for this. Id be all over burkman with points.

SPX
03-26-2013, 03:47 PM
Yeah, I mean he IS Jon Fitch and will undoubtedly walk in as the best welterweight on the roster. But still . . . it's like Edgar or Pettis getting an immediate title shot at FW. They should have to pay SOME kind of dues first. Fitch should have to fight one fight in the organization first just out of respect.

And I'll say this shit, congrats to Burkman for beating Harris and Simpson when he was a big underdog in both fights. I certainly did not expect him to win either fight. But I can't believe that Fitch is going to do anything other than run over him.

zY|
03-26-2013, 11:09 PM
I don't think these dudes should do titles anyway. Who cares who the WSOF champion is? Just put on interesting fights like Andrei Arlovski vs fucking Rumble Johnson. Have Jon Fitch fight a baboon. I'm so there.

poopoo333
03-27-2013, 12:13 AM
I agreed with zY...I like the idea of just putting on good fights.

poopoo333
03-27-2013, 12:14 AM
well fuck


There is a lot of talk about @MMAWorldSeries titles, to clear things up WSOF will not be doing any title fights till the end of 2013 @AliDominance

SPX
03-27-2013, 03:29 PM
I don't know that they need to be worrying about titles RIGHT NOW but once the org has been established after a handful of shows I think it will be important. I mean, people care about who's holding belts in Bellator, at least at the lower weights.

zY|
03-27-2013, 06:52 PM
I don't know that they need to be worrying about titles RIGHT NOW but once the org has been established after a handful of shows I think it will be important. I mean, people care about who's holding belts in Bellator, at least at the lower weights.

Maybe. Personally, I think the Bellator title is intriguing mostly because there is an established hierarchy with little variance via the tournaments. It's not something I think the UFC should do, but it adds more interest to fighters I normally wouldn't care about.

SPX
03-27-2013, 07:40 PM
Yeah, the tournament format is basically Bellator's ace in the hole. No one else is really doing that so the promotion is unique in that regard and it legitimizes their titles. From a pure sport perspective you can't get much more legit than a tournament.

SPX
04-08-2013, 01:57 PM
Not shocked, but. . .

WSOF president: Paulo Filho won't be returning to the organization (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/04/wsof-president-paulo-filho-wont-be-returning-to-the-organization)