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Vinny Maghalaes vs Anthony Perosh announced.
I'll laugh my ass off if Vinny loses.
If this shit's right, Machida's going to be fighting Phil Davis on this card. If that goes down, all in on Machida.
http://portaldovaletudo.com.br/br/noticias/item/4848-lyoto-machida-encara-phil-davis-no-ufc-rio-4
MMA_scientist
06-03-2013, 02:59 PM
I think that is a pretty good fight, Davis deserves another real test. Agree that Machida should win that though.
Machida either by murder or by embarrassing Davis for 3 rounds. Davis lost BADLY to Rashad and Machida is a step above Rashad. Davis won't out-wrestle or out-strike him, he won't sub him, and I seriously doubt he knocks him out.
Luke says he thinks Machida will be -300. If that happens, that is a fucking gift. I think it will be more like -450 if we're lucky.
MMA_scientist
06-03-2013, 03:42 PM
I don't think it will be that bad. Davis did get beat by Rashad... but he also beat Gustaffson and Nog (who beat Rashad). I don't think Davis gets the credit he deserves which is why I like this matchup. But yeah, it is a terrible matchup for Davis, I don't see his out here.
I don't think it will be that bad. Davis did get beat by Rashad... but he also beat Gustaffson and Nog (who beat Rashad). I don't think Davis gets the credit he deserves which is why I like this matchup. But yeah, it is a terrible matchup for Davis, I don't see his out here.
Let's not forget he was getting beaten by Gustafsson until Gus shot in for a takedown, which is when Phil latched onto that choke. He couldn't do shit against Minotoro in the first round and a half with his takedowns and he couldn't touch him striking. Machida is going to eat him alive.
Yeah. I think Machida is going to Fuck. Him. Up.
I just hope for a good line.
poopoo333
06-03-2013, 04:38 PM
All in on Davis if Machida is -400
All in on you going broke and having to rebuild from scratch then.
All in on you going broke and having to rebuild from scratch then.
BOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thewisemann
06-03-2013, 07:51 PM
Machida all day.
edman5555
06-03-2013, 08:59 PM
And all night.
MMA_scientist
06-04-2013, 09:19 AM
Let's not forget he was getting beaten by Gustafsson until Gus shot in for a takedown, which is when Phil latched onto that choke. He couldn't do shit against Minotoro in the first round and a half with his takedowns and he couldn't touch him striking. Machida is going to eat him alive.
How long have you been a racist?
Mr. IWS
06-04-2013, 11:57 AM
Will drink 8oz of my unrine whilst placing my bet on Machida.
::handshake::
How long have you been a racist?
How long has it been since OJ got acquitted?::handshake::
http://www.rashadface.com/upload/2013/03/23/20130323201130-336e1527.gif
edman5555
06-12-2013, 05:14 PM
Davis might be able to take machida down...dont forget rampage beating him. It was a bas decision but it happened nonetheless. Didnt hendo take him down as well?
edman5555
06-12-2013, 05:15 PM
He will probably lose...
Hendo got him down and held him there for a bit before Machida was able to get back to his feet. Machida has never shown a particular weakness against wrestlers and if he does get taken down he can usually (always, if I remember correctly) get back up.
Davis might be able to take machida down...dont forget rampage beating him. It was a bas decision but it happened nonetheless. Didnt hendo take him down as well?
Both Hendo and Rampage have something that Davis doesn't, though. Punching power. Machida had to be wary of the hands as they closed the distance which created an opening to go for the shot. Davis is not only weak as fuck standing, but his hands are slow to boot. Machida is going to eat this nigga alive!
edman5555
06-12-2013, 07:12 PM
Good points.
'Korean Zombie' replaces Anthony Pettis, meets champ Jose Aldo at UFC 163 (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/06/korean-zombie-replaces-anthony-pettis-meets-champ-jose-aldo-at-ufc-163)
There's a part of me that wants to go "Nooooooooooooo!" But there's perhaps a bigger part of me that hopes this puts a stop Pettis's 145 lb ambitions and sets up Pettis/Bendo, as it should've been all along.
edman5555
06-14-2013, 10:32 PM
pettis vs aldo would have been really good.
'Korean Zombie' replaces Anthony Pettis, meets champ Jose Aldo at UFC 163 (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/06/korean-zombie-replaces-anthony-pettis-meets-champ-jose-aldo-at-ufc-163)
There's a part of me that wants to go "Nooooooooooooo!" But there's perhaps a bigger part of me that hopes this puts a stop Pettis's 145 lb ambitions and sets up Pettis/Bendo, as it should've been all along.
Except Bendo is fighting Grant next, and Pettis will have to sit on his ass for a while either way now.
Thewisemann
06-14-2013, 11:38 PM
Lamas should be fighting Aldo. Aldo gonna kill the Zombie.
Aldo would kill Lamas, too. So it doesn't really matter.
Can you imagine if Zombie won the belt? Shit would be gonzo.
edman5555
06-15-2013, 12:15 AM
Aldo should beat KZ. Standup is better. BJJ is probably better. Wrestling is better. Athleticism is better. Everything is better.
I was going to bet lamas over KZ. Oh well.
Machida is -275 at a Euro book
edman5555
06-18-2013, 12:14 PM
Nice. It will probably be like -400 here. Hopefully not. I can't imagine that nobody else realizes Machida is a nightmare matchup for him.
Aldo is -800 and Maia is -275 at the euro books
MMA_scientist
06-20-2013, 01:39 PM
Damn, I always bet Maia, but I will definitely take Koscheck at that line.
edman5555
06-20-2013, 01:45 PM
Aldo is -800 and Maia is -275 at the euro books
What books? I want to go and look at them.
poopoo333
07-03-2013, 11:39 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/683.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)
poopoo333
07-08-2013, 09:18 PM
MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET)
Champ Jose Aldo vs. Chan Sung Jung - for featherweight title
Phil Davis vs. Lyoto Machida
Josh Koscheck (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/josh-koscheck) vs. Demian Maia (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/demian-maia)
Cezar Ferreira (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/cezar-ferreira) vs. Clint Hester (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/clint-hester)
John Lineker (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/john-lineker) vs. Phil Harris (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/phil-harris)
PRELIMINARY CARD (FX, 8 p.m. ET)
Vinny Magalhaes (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/vinny-magalhaes) vs. Anthony Perosh (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/anthony-perosh)
Sheila Gaff (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/sheila-gaff) vs. Amanda Nunes (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/amanda-nunes)
Neil Magny (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/neil-magny) vs. Sergio Moraes (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/sergio-moraes)
Thales Leites (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/thales-leites) vs. Tom Watson (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/tom-watson)
PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook, 6 p.m. ET)
Josh Clopton (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/josh-clopton) vs. Rani Yahya (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/rani-yahya)
Ian McCall (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/ian-mccall) vs. Iliarde Santos (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/iliarde-santos)
Viscardi Andrade (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/viscardi-andrade) vs. Bristol Marunde (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/bristol-marunde)
Robert Drysdale (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/robert-drysdale) vs. Ednaldo Oliveira (http://www.mmajunkie.com/fighters/ednaldo-oliveira)
poopoo333
07-08-2013, 09:18 PM
I bet on Davis @+300.
Mr. IWS
07-09-2013, 08:35 AM
I bet on Davis @+300.
You killin me! lol Is this purely value or you think he will win? Imma be on Lachida myself.
MMA_scientist
07-09-2013, 10:22 AM
Im definitely taking Davis at that line.
Im trying to find a way to not bet Koscheck here. Why is Maia going to beat him?
poopoo333
07-09-2013, 10:44 AM
You killin me! lol Is this purely value or you think he will win? Imma be on Lachida myself.
Both. I obviously favor Machida but +300 is nuts imo. Davis is only getting better and I feel that Machida has already hit his peak and may not even be there anymore. I hate how this fight is in Brazil based on the recent trends of America (besides Nik Lentz) getting fucked up in Brazil.
Im definitely taking Davis at that line.
Im trying to find a way to not bet Koscheck here. Why is Maia going to beat him?
Can he do what he did to Fitch to Koscheck? Maia didn't give Fitch any room to strike, he might be able to do the same to Koscheck. Also, Koscheck is definitely one of those fighters that is just fighting for the money now in my opinion. He isn't with AKA and just went ahead and opened his own gym. He seems to have made his money and I have this feeling he just isn't into it anymore. Combine that with traveling to Brazil and the cards are stacked against him.
HOWEVER, he might have a "fire lit under his ass" now because if he loses I am pretty sure he is going to get cut.
MMA_scientist
07-09-2013, 11:05 AM
I think Koscheck is a much stronger wrestler than Fitch, only a couple guys (GSP, Hendricks) can even think about taking Koscheck down. The difference with Maia is that he will go for the finish whereas Hendricks and GSP aren't just going to jump up on your back standing. What that means for this fight, I don't know, but I have my doubts that Maia can take Kos down or even outclinch him. I could see Maia just chasing him around the cage for 15 minutes while Koscheck tries to avoid the clinch and land his ridiculous haymakers.
I don't know, I have always thought that Koscheck was the 2nd best WW after GSP, just a lot dumber.
Mr. IWS
07-09-2013, 11:16 AM
Im definitely taking Davis at that line.
Im trying to find a way to not bet Koscheck here. Why is Maia going to beat him?
Im thinking along the same lines as poopoo, I think Maia is gonna smother him similar to the Fitch fight. I really like Maia lately and Kos looks like he is going through the motions anymore.
edman5555
07-09-2013, 02:43 PM
Maia might be able to out kickbox him..
edman5555
07-09-2013, 03:17 PM
Im very confident in Aldo in this one but his line has gone to shit. Machida should win as well but his line is equally shitty and I am a little worried that Phil can take him down. I like Vinny to beat Perosh but I worry that Perosh might be able to win with wrestling. Though I think Perosh should be at a speed disadvantage which should make it hard for him to land takedowns.
poopoo333
07-09-2013, 03:20 PM
Aldo will win but I'll be rooting for KZ. The line sucks. I was going to bet very large on Aldo over Pettis at -150 but then Pettis had to go and get hurt.
edman5555
07-09-2013, 04:36 PM
Really? I thought Pettis had a decent shot. Why so heavy on Aldo?
Vandelay
07-09-2013, 06:48 PM
I would have bet Pettis large over Aldo for sure.
Thewisemann
07-09-2013, 09:04 PM
I'm big on Machida. Zombie is gonna
Get killed but aldo isn't bettabl
edman5555
07-09-2013, 09:42 PM
I'm big on Machida. Zombie is gonna
Get killed but aldo isn't bettabl
Dont think davis has anything for him? I think aldos line should get better.
MMA_scientist
07-12-2013, 11:37 AM
Koscheck injured, Maia fight is off.
Thewisemann
07-12-2013, 12:10 PM
Koscheck injured, Maia fight is off.
Good. It was an interesting fight but made no sense for Maia. He's what, 3-0 at welter all tough guys. Give him at least someone coming off a W
MMA_scientist
07-12-2013, 12:57 PM
Maia vs. Rory/Ellenberger or Condit are the only fights that make sense. I would love to see Maia/Condit.
Thewisemann
07-12-2013, 02:10 PM
Yea, me too but Condit is also coming off two losses in a row. I really wanted Elleberger vs Maia #1 contender bout.
poopoo333
07-22-2013, 01:37 PM
The Korean Zombie on upcoming title fight with Aldo: "I will be making $20,000 to show and another $20,000 if I win. I do not get any PPV points. After 2 more fights, I will be able to negotiate my contract."
damn
edman5555
08-03-2013, 11:36 AM
I'm with you on Tom Watson Poopoo. I think he wins. Thales has never been that great of an all around fighter though he is very good on the ground. I bet Watson gets taken down at some point but gets back to his feet and outstrikes him. Watson by decision.
trotterz
08-03-2013, 06:55 PM
Am I the only one to think that it is either Magny winner by whatever or Moraes by sub for that matchup?
edman5555
08-04-2013, 10:54 AM
I cant believe Machida got beat by phil davis. Sherdog and MMAjunkie gave it to him 30-27. I didn't watch it. Anyone else score it for Davis?
trotterz
08-04-2013, 11:37 AM
I had it 29-28 machida and most people on the live chat here yesterday night had it 29-28 Machida
The only people that didnt score it for Machida and think that wasnt a horrible decision were those who bet Davis
edman5555
08-04-2013, 05:06 PM
This was the worst night i ever had. Fuck myself for betting on vinny and machida. I threw another two units on machida before he lost. Im down like 12 units.
trotterz
08-04-2013, 05:20 PM
Imo Machida won but unfortunately, it won't get you your money back
edman5555
08-04-2013, 05:34 PM
I want to jump off a fucking bridge.
I want to jump off a fucking bridge.
This was the worst night i ever had. Fuck myself for betting on vinny and machida. I threw another two units on machida before he lost. Im down like 12 units.
We got screwed on the Machida decision. He won that fight.
I also have been doing poorly lately and haven't been having a great year in general. 8 months in and this bullshit last night put me in the hole. I should be way up by now. First Nelson goes out and does . . . whatever the fuck it was he did out there. And then Machida gets raped by the judges. That's two 5u bets--my last two 5u bets, which is pretty much the max I ever bet on a fight--that crashed and burned.
I'm starting to understand why Ludo is taking a break.
Svino
08-05-2013, 12:12 PM
LOL, Chris Watts.
http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/methodgetsbqzp02rcmaaovjijpglarge.jpg
Yeah, although it's clearly wrong, I can at least understand why someone would give Davis the first round, but the 3rd? Did he do anything at all in that round? Who is this Watts clown?
Who is this Watts clown?
Same goof who scored Sanchez over Gomi
poopoo333
08-10-2013, 01:36 PM
I bet on Davis. I think Machida won the fight but I actually had a strong feeling Davis was getting those rounds on the judges scorecards.
poopoo333
08-10-2013, 04:26 PM
SPX... what bad decisions besides Machida/Davis did I get lucky on?
I've seen you hit bets that are obviously poor decisions or unlikely results over and over.
Just wondering because I always feel like I am getting hosed on bad decisions.
SPX... what bad decisions besides Machida/Davis did I get lucky on?
Just wondering because I always feel like I am getting hosed on bad decisions.
Give me a record on your bets and I'll let you know. But I can remember thinking plenty of times that you ended up on the good side of some flukey shit, like Lawler knocking out Kos. Even you said you were kissing your money goodbye after Kos started trying to wrestle.
I know your research and instincts have a lot to do with your success but the universe has clearly been on your side this year. Not that that's a bad thing. I'd certainly take it.
poopoo333
08-10-2013, 04:50 PM
Give me a record on your bets and I'll let you know. But I can remember thinking plenty of times that you ended up on the good side of some flukey shit, like Lawler knocking out Kos. Even you said you were kissing your money goodbye after Kos started trying to wrestle.
I know your research and instincts have a lot to do with your success but the universe has clearly been on your side this year. Not that that's a bad thing. I'd certainly take it.
Oh yeah...with that one I figured Kos would be Kos and stand longer than he should and might have ended up getting KTFO. Just looked through all the fights in 2013 and the only other one comparable to that is Bigfoot KOing Reem in the 3rd. Other than that nothing too crazy. I got lucky with the Davis decision but I've been on the bad end of some pretty shitty decisions this year: Gomi/Sanchez, Dunham/RDA, FUCKING MIKE PYLE/RICK STORY WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT, and Melendez/Bendo.
poopoo333
08-10-2013, 04:51 PM
I also got hosed on betting Luke Rockhold over Vitor Belfort. Rockhold wasn't out..early stoppage.
I feel like I've been getting screwed hard this year pretty much the whole way through. I took a big shot on both Nelson and Machida and lost both of them. The Nelson lost I can accept, but the Machida loss was really hard. Now, after those losses and having to pull some money to pay some bills, my entire bank roll is down to 10u. And if I lose it I have no way right now to refund my accounts. So if things don't turn around I could be out of the game for the foreseeable future.
poopoo333
08-10-2013, 07:59 PM
Damn, I hope you turn it around. Losing back to back big bets sucks.
Thanks. We'll see how it goes. I either need to play super tight or I need to take a final big shot on something and hope for the best. I need to make something happen though for sure.
I also got hosed on betting Luke Rockhold over Vitor Belfort. Rockhold wasn't out..early stoppage.
I know . Just like the Kos-Thiago fight
poopoo333
08-10-2013, 10:38 PM
I know . Just like the Kos-Thiago fight
Yep. I was really upset when I got fucked over on the Hendo/Bisping fight. Bisping was NOT out.
I suspected sarcasm . . . now it is confirmed.
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