View Full Version : UFC Fight Night 27 8/28 Condit vs Kampmann
poopoo333
06-04-2013, 10:31 PM
Condit/Kampmann II headlining
poopoo333
06-04-2013, 10:50 PM
Sarah Kaufman vs Sara McMann
poopoo333
06-04-2013, 11:43 PM
Tavares-McDaniel, Head-Voelker and Gastelum-Thiago official for UFC on FS1 #2
Tavares is going to fucking smoke McDaniel. Jesus Christ.
And Gastelum should beat Thiago imo.
McMann is gonna have a bad time.
Mr. IWS
06-05-2013, 10:58 AM
All in on Sara
poopoo333
06-05-2013, 02:34 PM
Donald Cerrone vs. Rafael Dos Anjos added to UFC on FS1 #2 in Indy
That should be a good match up. Hard one to call.
As for McMann/Kaufman, that's also tough to call. As is Kampmann/Condit.
This card's shaping up to be a shitty one for betting.
Thewisemann
06-05-2013, 02:50 PM
Condit will win
Like he did the first time?
poopoo333
06-05-2013, 02:55 PM
I like Condit in a 5 rounder in this fight...then again Kampmann has some underrated wrestling and it's not like he has cardio issues. I actually like McMann in this fight but I suck at betting women's MMA.
Unless Rousey fights. Because she is a guaranteed winner.
edman5555
06-05-2013, 03:48 PM
I actually like cerrone.
poopoo333
07-03-2013, 11:40 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/692.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)
edman5555
07-04-2013, 12:03 AM
I think Cerrone can kick his ass.
Thewisemann
07-04-2013, 02:43 PM
Suprises at Cerrones line
edman5555
07-04-2013, 06:08 PM
I think cerrone can beat him. He could get outwrestled though.
poopoo333
08-19-2013, 07:52 PM
hi edman
poopoo333
08-19-2013, 09:04 PM
I bet the Condit/Kampmann fight to go the distance at -145.
edman5555
08-19-2013, 09:14 PM
Condit had some good things to say recently. After his loss to hendricks he hired an olympic wrestler to help him with his wrestling. He also kept training inbetween his last camp and this camp so he claims he was already in good shape at the beginning of his camp. Hiw cardio should be top notch and his wrestling should be on point.
edman5555
08-19-2013, 09:15 PM
Like he did the first time?
I get how you feel but i think that the first fight was very close and a five rounder favors someone as toughh as him with his kind of cardio. I also think he has been the one doing the best since then. That was also condits first fight in the ufc so the jitters could have gotten to him.
I would agree that Condit has had the higher profile wins, although Kampmann KOing Ellenberger was on par with anything Condit has done in the UFC.
The first fight was super-close, as you say. One of those kinds of fights where you really have no idea how the judges are going to score it. I favor Condit here, but not by a lot. Unless Condit really has improved his wrestling, I could see Kampmann winning a control decision, not too unlike he did with Rick Story. That's basically how he won the first fight, by being a hair more dominant on the ground.
At the current line I have to say it's Kampmann or nothing.
Full odds up. . .
http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/692.png
poopoo333
08-24-2013, 09:45 PM
I like Elkins, Edwards, and High at the current price. (Notice a trend in these fighters?)
I liked Mizugaki when he was +165... he still may have some value. Perez is good but he has cardio issues and is being overrated by his past few fights against guys who aren't even in the UFC anymore.
Dylan Andrews will win. He is tough enough to survive round 1 and Abedi will go into cardiac arrest and get beat up in rounds 2 and 3. I almost like the over 1.5 in this one at -150, but 2 minutes and 30 seconds is a long time to depend on Abedi to hold up after the 1st round.
Trujillo/Bowling is interesting. Trujillo showed solid TDD against a solid wrestler in Levesseur and was very aggressive in that fight as well. It is safe to say Levesseur's wrestling credentials didn't carry over to MMA well at all so Trujillo's performance against him may not be the best indicator of how this fight will go. I lean Bowling here but he is pretty flaky. At the current price a small play wouldn't be a bad idea imo. He has takedowns of his own and I think if he can work that game he will win.
I might be with you on High. I was thinking about that earlier. I keep thinking Head is not as good as he's lead us to believe. A "regression to the mean" is on the way, as Jordan Breen would say.
You might also be right about Miz. He's always been one of my favorite fighters at BW but he fights a lot of really close fights. Not sure what to think about Perez at this point but Miz as a dog sounds good.
Bowling fucked me pretty good in his rubber match with Taylor Lautner's brother. I think I lost 5u on that one, so I'm pretty iffy about betting on him these days. Not confident, but I'll take Trujillo here.
poopoo333
08-24-2013, 11:08 PM
Yeah, James Head may be overrated because of the Ebersole fight, but did you see Ebersole's TD attempts in that fucking fight? Horrible. Jason High should cruise here in my opinion.
Yeah, Miz is always in close fights but he does go for top control which wins fights. Perez's defensive wrestling is a question mark (unless I am missing something from his previous fights/forgot something) so if that's suspect Miz could capitalize and take control if Perez doesn't have the cardio to keep up with grappling.
Yeah, Bowling cost me big in the 2nd fight actually and I bet on Taylor Lautner's brother in the 3rd fight. Bowling has dropped 2 in a row but to pretty legit guys. Tarec is a monster and Njokuani is a great striker imo. Bowling actually won the 1st round against Njokuani too. I'm going to bet Bowling but he is the type of guy I can't lay a 5 unit bet on although at near even money he is a great play.
i like bowling too. he throws hard shots n slows down in the later round tho n trillo is hard to finish imo so if he cant finish trillo in the first, he'll probably lose the 3rd.
also like edward line but need to watch more vid on thatch. he has logs of first round finish but how good is he really to be such fav over edwards?
edman5555
08-25-2013, 01:59 AM
Bowling did an interview recently where he talked about toning down his brawler style so you might want to search for that and take it into consideration. That said, Abel is a good wrestler and might be able to take him to the ground. He also seems to be pretty quick on the feet, granted he isn't so skilled there but he might have the ability to take it to the ground
That said, Abel is a good wrestler and might be able to take him to the ground.
This is what I'm thinking. Could just end up being three rounds of GnP.
Bowling did an interview recently where he talked about toning down his brawler style so you might want to search for that and take it into consideration. That said, Abel is a good wrestler and might be able to take him to the ground. He also seems to be pretty quick on the feet, granted he isn't so skilled there but he might have the ability to take it to the ground
im gonna stay away from this fight lol. I hate to bet on a guy who tends to slow down as the fight goes on vs a guy who is tough to finish.
PP, how do u see the Elkin-Hioki fight go? Kinda leaning Hioki here.
poopoo333
08-27-2013, 12:17 AM
I like Elkins. Think he takes him down enough and wins a decision where everybody is like "ELKINS DIDN'T DO SHIT! HIOKI WAS WORKING FROM THE BOTTOM!"
Elkins lost to Omigawa. Never forget.
(Judges be damned.)
that can certainly happen although Hioki usually gets taken down from a fast shot which isnt how Elkins' tds are. ELkins' shot isnt very fast. In the clinch, Hioki is pretty good also, not sure Elkins will have much advantage there. I think this fight depends alot on who the better striker is and Hioki's gas tank come the 2nd n 3rd round. Was planning to bet enough to win 2u on Hioki but im just gonna do 1u now.
Anybody have thoughts on Whittaker/McGee?
Anybody have thoughts on Whittaker/McGee?
They both suck
Im on Mcgee for 3u. Just not that impressed with Whittaker while Mcgee has been in there with guys better than Whittaker and make them very close fights. He also put alot of pressure and set a very high pace that im not sure Whittaker can handle. He also has a solid chin.
poopoo333
08-27-2013, 09:47 PM
They both suck
::wooo::
ehh damn im gonna miss the fights since they start at 2pm on west coast and i dont get off work til 5 fml
MMA_scientist
08-28-2013, 01:07 PM
Why is Kampmann +240. I see this as a slight edge to Condit based on Kampmann's chin, but +240. I'll take that.
I agree. Condit should maybe be -150. I put a small bet on Kamp at +205.
poopoo333
08-28-2013, 02:47 PM
5 round fight changes things in this one imo. I favor Condit but -240 on a guy with historically bad TDD against a guy with decent TDs (from the clinch at least) is off
MMA_scientist
08-28-2013, 02:48 PM
I agree. Condit should maybe be -150. I put a small bet on Kamp at +205.
I bet Kamp @ +230. Condit will probably win, but he shouldn't be that much of a favorite.
What else y'all betting? So far I've got small plays on:
Kampmann
RDA
Miz
High
poopoo333
08-28-2013, 03:01 PM
Just posted my bets in the bet thread. I want to go bigger on High because I think he should be the clear favorite but something is keeping me away from doing that.
Instead, I went bigger on Elkins. He's the hometown grinder wrestler going against the Jap who likes to lay on his back and throw his legs up and do nothing. :)
Elkins clearly losing to Omigawa doesn't concern you?
poopoo333
08-28-2013, 03:18 PM
Elkins clearly losing to Omigawa doesn't concern you?
Naw, that was along time ago and Omigawa/Hioki are completely different fighters
MMA_scientist
08-28-2013, 03:24 PM
I considered Elkins, but I figured if Oliveira can lay on his back and sub Elkins, then I suppose Hioki can too. Also, Hioki has takedowns.
poopoo333
08-28-2013, 03:25 PM
I considered Elkins, but I figured if Oliveira can lay on his back and sub Elkins, then I suppose Hioki can too. Also, Hioki has takedowns.
Elkins is the second coming of Christ.
MMA_scientist
08-28-2013, 03:25 PM
I kind of want to bet RDA, but I was hoping he would be a bigger dog. I actually think the line is about right on that one.
edman5555
08-28-2013, 03:30 PM
5 round fight changes things in this one imo. I favor Condit but -240 on a guy with historically bad TDD against a guy with decent TDs (from the clinch at least) is off
I think Condit's takedown defense has improved since then. He has also been working on it a lot recently. I don't know how much that will close the gap but it will likely help.
edman5555
08-28-2013, 03:31 PM
Anyone have a link to bubba McDaniel vs Gilbert smith?
Svino
08-28-2013, 03:48 PM
I just realized that I can't ever remember picking Kampmann to win a fight.
I think there's wrestler-control value on High, Elkins, and McGee. And maybe Kampmann.
Kampmann is going to get knocked out. So quickly people forget he was getting demolished on his feet against Alves until Alves decided to try to take him down for no reason and got subbed. condit is even a better striker than Alves. Yes, Condit has bad TDD, but thats against top wreslters (GSP, Hendricks) . When he fights mid-tier wrestlers he does just fine. Condit will TKO Kampmann within 3 rounds
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.