UFC 166

[poopoo333]

Champ Cain Velasquez vs. Junior dos Santos III likely at UFC 166 in Houston (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/06/champ-cain-velasquez-vs-cain-velasquez-iii-likely-at-ufc-166-in-houston)

[SPX]

Too soon, in my opinion. I'd like Junior to get one more fight before getting another title shot.

[Thewisemann]

Same here. But who?

[MMA_scientist]

Cain only had to win one fight to get his rematch. I am ready to end this trilogy so we can get on with Werdum.

[edman5555]

I think Werdum vs Cain is interesting but I think JDS knocks werdum out pretty easily despite his improvements.

[MMA_scientist]

Cain would whup his ass too. BUt at least it is someone new.

I don't really like rematches, and I really don't like trilogies.

[edman5555]

Cain would probably outbox him. That said, Werdums standup has improved. The reason Cain vs werdum is interesting is because Cain would have to worry about being submitted if he took him down. Cains striking is looking really good though. He would probably just outstrike him.

[poopoo333]

Cain wins again.

[poopoo333]

Speaking of Werdum...

Dana White says if Roy Nelson wins this weekend he is interested in a Roy Nelson/Fabricio Werdum rematch.

...dumb

[edman5555]

Roy got handled by Werdum. In fact when i think about it i get nervous about putting a bet on him over stipe.

[Thewisemann]

But who else is there for Werdum to fight? Without waiting nobody. Nelson is a waisted fight for Werdum, but idk who else to match him with. Winner of Barnett/Mir and Browne/Reem should face off.

[Thewisemann]

Plus if Roy knocks Stipe out, that will be 4 straight KO wins since fighting Werdum. Good #1 contender fight.

[poopoo333]

Roy/Cormier should be on this card.

[poopoo333]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7gSbHKvtrQ

[Luke]

^^If he would just get in shape and drop to 205.....

[Luke]

Gilbert -350 over Diego

[poopoo333]

Luke Rockhold vs. Tim Boetsch slated for UFC 166 (http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/7/24/4552272/luke-rockhold-vs-tim-boetsch-slated-for-ufc-166)

So..Rockhold, Cormier, Cain...UFC 166: AKA

Rockhold has the best chance of losing out of those fights imo

[edman5555]

I still think Rockhold wins. He dealt with tim kennedy and jacare. He should be able to deal with tim.

[poopoo333]

(http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/07/ufc-166-gets-lightweight-bout-between-k-j-noons-george-sotiropoulos) UFC 166 gets lightweight bout between K.J. Noons, George Sotiropoulos (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/07/ufc-166-gets-lightweight-bout-between-k-j-noons-george-sotiropoulos)
Gabriel Gonzaga meets Shawn Jordan at UFC 166 in Houston (http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/07/gabriel-gonzaga-meets-shawn-jordan-at-ufc-166-in-houston)

Going big on Shawn Jordan if he is close to even (again)

[SPX]

Noons/G-Sot is going to be interesting.

[poopoo333]

I like Noons to be honest.

Fun fact: Noons has lost 5 of his last 6.

[edman5555]

I agree with you about noons.

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/698.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[poopoo333]

I bet Cormier/Nelson over 1.5 rds @ -215 to win $100 right away. That was a steal.

[edman5555]

Luke you said your doing a big Cain/Cormier parlay? I think Cormier should be pretty solid to win this but Roy looks to be in really good shape. JDs is always dangerous as well. I like Gilbert Melendez.

[Luke]

That Gil line is just too high for me. He'll win, but I'm not playing it. Yeah, I'll be on Cain-Corimer. Roy always looks like crap against top 10 competition and I really think the second JDS-Cain fight showed the real talent gap between the two. But, I wouldn't listen to me on MMA . Of the 50-60 bets I've made in the last month only 2 were MMA. I never claimed to know what I was doing in MMA

[edman5555]

I just worry that Big country can catch Cormier. The best striker Cormier has fought were probably Mir and Barnett. That said, Cormier should be able to put Country up against the wall. I get what your saying about JDS and Cain, the thought has occurred to me before. Its just hard to forget that first fight.

[Luke]

I just worry that Big country can catch Cormier. The best striker Cormier has fought were probably Mir and Barnett. That said, Cormier should be able to put Country up against the wall. I get what your saying about JDS and Cain, the thought has occurred to me before. Its just hard to forget that first fight.


He could catch him, but that's the risk you have to take. Honestly, I'm not too worried about Cormier. Roy has never looked good against any top competition.

[poopoo333]

He could catch him, but that's the risk you have to take. Honestly, I'm not too worried about Cormier. Roy has never looked good against any top competition.

Roy is also not a "great striker" that Cormier will have a problem with.

Just my opinion.

[edman5555]

Yeah he is so ewhat mediocre however he has landed on many a men. He should also be a lot lighter and quicker on his feet.

[poopoo333]

I think Daniel Cormier by decision is going to be worth a bet. It should be slight + money.

[poopoo333]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/698.png (http://www.bestfightodds.com)

[poopoo333]

Everybody knows my opinion on Cain/JDS III as well as the Roy Nelson/Daniel Cormier fight. Going to parlay them lovers.

Diego Sanchez vs Gilbert Melendez....

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Gilbert Melendez -750 is fucking notes. He should be the clear favorite and SHOULD win, but if Melendez didn't have that close fight with Bendo, he wouldn't even be -500. I think this price is almost a lock to go to decision and we all know how judges LOVE Diego. I will definitely and unfortunately be on Diego here.

Shawn Jordan is going to fuck Gabriel Gonzaga up. I wish the opening line of -135 held.

No opinion on the 125 lb girls fighting on this card.

[poopoo333]

Heavyweight
Cain Velasquez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cain_Velasquez) (c)
vs
Junior dos Santos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_dos_Santos)



[a] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_166#cite_note-9)


Heavyweight
Daniel Cormier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Cormier)
vs.
Roy Nelson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Nelson_%28fighter%29)






Lightweight
Gilbert Melendez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Melendez)
vs.
Diego Sanchez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Sanchez)






Heavyweight
Gabriel Gonzaga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Gonzaga)
vs.
Shawn Jordan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Jordan)






Flyweight
John Dodson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dodson_%28fighter%29)
vs.
Darrell Montague (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Montague)






Preliminary card (Fox Sports 1)


Middleweight
Tim Boetsch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Boetsch)
vs.
C.B. Dollaway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.B._Dollaway)






Welterweight
Nate Marquardt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Marquardt)
vs.
Hector Lombard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector_Lombard)






Women's Bantamweight
Sarah Kaufman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Kaufman_%28fighter%29)
vs.
Jessica Eye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Eye)






Lightweight
George Sotiropoulos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Sotiropoulos)
vs.
KJ Noons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KJ_Noons)






Preliminary card (Facebook/Youtube)


Welterweight
TJ Waldburger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TJ_Waldburger)
vs.
Adlan Amagov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adlan_Amagov)






Lightweight
Tony Ferguson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Ferguson)
vs.
Mike Rio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rio)






Featherweight
Jeremy Larsen
vs.
Andre Fili






Bantamweight
Dustin Pague (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dustin_Pague)
vs.
Kyoji Horiguchi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoji_Horiguchi)

[Luke]

Only care about Corimer and Cain

[poopoo333]

Only care about Corimer and Cain

-145. Are we putting $1,450 on it?

[Luke]

-145. Are we putting $1,450 on it?

I'm all for 725 right now. I don't know if I can do 1450, but let me think about it this week.

[poopoo333]

I'm all for 725 right now. I don't know if I can do 1450, but let me think about it this week.

I'm not putting that much either on it lol. There is always that chance JDS wins..like if Cain tears both ACLs and breaks his neck in the fight. He may slip on one of the logos in the octagon.

[Luke]

I'm not putting that much either on it lol. There is always that chance JDS wins..like if Cain tears both ACLs and breaks his neck in the fight. He may slip on one of the logos in the octagon.


pussy

[poopoo333]

Marquardt/Lombard is pretty interesting. I give the edge to Marquardt here though

[Vandelay]

Yea JDS is going to win this fight...so don't make the bet.

[poopoo333]

Yea JDS is going to win this fight...so don't make the bet.

Alright man thanks!

[Luke]

Yea JDS is going to win this fight...so don't make the bet.


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[poopoo333]

.................................................. ................

Luke, I will run it down for you:

JDS wasn't himself.
He was going through divorce.
He was hurt.
He stuffed takedowns until he got punched in the face.

DUH

[Vandelay]

They are very even. Cain had a lot of trouble taking down JDS and had JDS actually attempted to capitalize on the sloppy takedown attempts, I think he would have done much better. Plus thats the worst he has ever looked. Gassed 2 minutes into the fight? not like him. Alas, it looks like I am on my own on this one.

[SPX]

Alas, it looks like I am on my own on this one.

I think this fight is too tough to call with any certainty but I definitely think JDS has a fine chance to win. Not sure why someone would act like Cain is some sort of lock here.

[Luke]

I think this fight is too tough to call with any certainty but I definitely think JDS has a fine chance to win. Not sure why someone would act like Cain is some sort of lock here.

Did you two watch the second fight? Cain couldnt have beat JDS anymore that he did. The first fight was a complete fluke. The difference between JDS-Cain 1 &2 was just as big of a difference as Serra-GSP 1&2 .

You guys think if GSP and Serra would have fought a third time it would have been close? Then why on gods green earth do you think JDS stands a chance here? What did he show in the second fight that gives you any indication that he can win the third fight? He caught Cain with a lucky shot in the first fight and then was dominated in the second fight.

[Luke]

Luke, I will run it down for you:

JDS wasn't himself.
He was going through divorce.
He was hurt.
He stuffed takedowns until he got punched in the face.

DUH


I know . I know.

[poopoo333]

err Luke I wouldn't compare JDS/Cain to Serra/GSP II.

That being said, JDS has no chance.

[SPX]

Y'all are fucking retarded. That is all.

[Luke]

Y'all are fucking retarded. That is all.

And Maia beats Shields 80% of the time, right?

[Luke]

err Luke I wouldn't compare JDS/Cain to Serra/GSP II.

That being said, JDS has no chance.


I was more comparing the the fights, not the fighters. The difference between fight 1 and 2 was about the same between Serra-GSP. Serra caught GSP with a lucky shot and got dominated in the second fight.....same happened in Cain-JDS. Unless JDS catches in rd 1 again I don't think he stands a chance

[Luke]

I havent heard on legit reason why JDS stands a chance. Not one.




edmann

[poopoo333]

You cannot compare JDS/Serra man...Serra fucking sucked. He was top 15 ...maybe.

As for JDS, he is at least top 4 or 5.

[Thewisemann]

I'm on Cain here for 4u. Its no lock though.

[edman5555]

I'm on Cain here for 4u. Its no lock though.

Is it me or is John Dodson being undervalued.

[edman5555]

I also like Gilbert Melendez vs diego sanchez goes the distance. -245 seems like a steal. Jordan vs Gabe ITD is probably a great deal too. Either Jordan gets submitted/ko'd or Gonzaga will be knocked out. Nelson Cormier over 1.5 rounds is probably worth while as well. I could see Roy knocking out Cormier though. He has transformed to trim and svelte like Scientist.

[trotterz]

Is it me or is John Dodson being undervalued.

I agree. IMO he is going to walk trhough montague

[edman5555]

I agree. IMO he is going to walk trhough montague

This is the same thing I Was thinking. He beat Formiga, Dillashaw and Moraga. Then he fought a very close fight with DJ. He should be -500 at least based on that.

[SPX]

I think Dodson will win, but Montague is legit. I've been waiting for the UFC to pick him up for a while now. I was actually surprised he wasn't in the first batch of fighters they signed.

[edman5555]

Ian mcall outstruck and outwrestled him in their figh before finishing him.

[Thewisemann]

Don't know anything about Montague

[SPX]

Ian mcall outstruck and outwrestled him in their figh before finishing him.

It just so happens that Ian McCall is really good. He was ranked #1 before DJ and Benavidez hit the scene.

[poopoo333]

This is the same thing I Was thinking. He beat Formiga, Dillashaw and Moraga. Then he fought a very close fight with DJ. He should be -500 at least based on that.

Don't any much about Montague's style...but that's total mma math right there.

[Luke]

Are we talking about hot blonde chick from The Hills? Poopoo, help me out here

[edman5555]

Don't any much about Montague's style...but that's total mma math right there.

Yeah i guess.

[Vandelay]

I like Corm by dec and sanchez fight to go dist. Might parlay those two.

[edman5555]

I dnt see cormier knocking out or subbing nelson. Maybe he could knock him out but i expect nelson to be in top form. I would be more worried about nelson knocking him out.

[SPX]

I just noticed that Darrell Montague has finished 12 of his 14 career fights. As we all know, that's very rare at this weight class.

[edman5555]

I think his competition has been somewhat weak.

[SPX]

Well, the division has historically been thin, but I still think it's impressive. Most other flyweights have a much lower finish-to-decision ratio, even against no-name competition.

[poopoo333]

Are we talking about hot blonde chick from The Hills? Poopoo, help me out here

I think Jake Shields beats Demian Maia.

[Luke]

http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/698.png


Rest of the lines out

[edman5555]

Im suprised noons opened as a favorite. What do you guys think of lombard? I see him winning.

[poopoo333]

What do you guys think of lombard? I see him winning.

I think he's black.

[Vandelay]

Gsot is definitely on the down side of his career and Noons is, on paper, a bad stylistic matchup for him because he has solid tdd and MUCH better striking

[edman5555]

Yeah i agree with you about noons though i am suprised he opened as the favorite.

[Luke]

I think he's black.

He's a Cuban wetback you racist prick

[poopoo333]

He's a Cuban wetback you racist prick

Then WTF is he doing with that not white skin?

[edman5555]

Spray tan?

[Mr. IWS]

Cain and Cormier for me. AKA parlay all day

[Luke]

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk279/hero_FTW/Bad_Boys.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/hero_FTW/media/Bad_Boys.jpg.html)

[Svino]

Im suprised noons opened as a favorite. What do you guys think of lombard? I see him winning.

I was also surprised at the Noons line.

[poopoo333]

Cain -5.5 at -120.

Can Cain really win by decision with these scores? 49-46, 48-47, 48-47. No fucking way JDS wins 2 rounds.

[Luke]

I'm not 100% convinced it will go to decision. I'll take the -190 and be safe


Edit:DOH!!!!!!!!!

Stoppage wins. I am dumb

[poopoo333]

I want to bet the "Cain by TKO" prop bet...but what's a TKO?

[Luke]

I want to bet the "Cain by TKO" prop bet...but what's a TKO?

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb386/Marlinfan1995/serious_zps286a7793.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Marlinfan1995/media/serious_zps286a7793.jpg.html)

[Vandelay]

Saw the Cain prop and liked it. So I made this parlay. I give it a solid 10 percent chance at hitting.

$30.00 $24,733.30 Pending 11 Team Parlay
Pending 10/20/13 8:30pm NFL Football 421 Denver Broncos -270* vs Indianapolis Colts
Pending 10/19/13 12:00pm Props Football 28503 Oregon wins BCS Champ +350* vs Field wins BCS Championship
Pending 10/18/13 8:35pm MLB Baseball 1011 Los Angeles Dodgers (Series) +250* vs St. Louis Cardinals (Series) (Fixed Price)
Pending 10/19/13 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 John Dodson -340* vs Darrell Montague
Pending 10/18/13 9:00pm Bellator Fighting 3003 War Machine -210* vs Ron Keslar
Pending 10/18/13 6:00pm Bellator Fighting 3013 Paul Sass/Rod Montoya Under 1½ -270*
Pending 10/19/13 11:59pm Props Fighting 1060 Velasquez points handicap -5½ -120* vs Dos Santos points handicap
Pending 10/19/13 11:30pm Props Fighting 1103 Nelson/Cormier goes 3 round distance -160* vs Fight won't go 3 round distance
Pending 10/19/13 11:00pm Props Fighting 1203 Sanchez/Melendez goes 3 round distance -215* vs Fight won't go 3 round distance
Pending 11/16/13 11:30pm Props Fighting 1011 St-Pierre wins by 5 round decision -140* vs Not St-Pierre by 5 round decision
Pending 12/28/13 11:00pm Props Fighting 1126 Any other result -105* vs Rousey wins in round 1

[SPX]

I guess if it really has a 10% chance, and you can put together 9 others like it, then one should eventually hit and you'll have only risked $300 to win $25K.

[Luke]

Should have left Oregon off that.

[poopoo333]

Yea JDS is going to win this fight...so don't make the bet.

oh nice parlay breh

[Vandelay]

Im not impressed with Bama this year. and Those odds were too good to pass up on cain. So if my bet on JDS loses, then im still not completely fucked.

[Luke]

I like Noons, Lomtard, Cain, and Cormier tonight. That is all

[Luke]

I like Noons, Lomtard, Cain, and Cormier tonight. That is all

Only 4-0.......


Tell me again how JDS wins . At least it was close this time.................

[poopoo333]

Talk about good luck




$20.00
$134.50
$154.50
Win
3 Team Parlay







Win
10/19/13 11:59pm Props Fighting 1041 Velasquez wins by TKO/KO +220* vs Any other result







Win
10/19/13 11:30pm Props Fighting 1111 Cormier wins by 3 round decision -140* vs Not Cormier by 3 round decision







Win
10/19/13 11:00pm Props Fighting 1203 Sanchez/Melendez goes 3 round distance -245* vs Fight won't go 3 round distance

[Luke]

^^^Damn, nice.

SPX took JDS after rd3 . He said there was value in the bet

[edman5555]

I didnt post my bets but i hit just about everything. I shouda went bigger on cain. I had a jds knockiut of thr night arb. I had like 7k in my accounts about two months ago. I lost about all of it, dropped down to about 550 dollars. I am approaching 2000 now. I have been betting all along but i am barely using full units so i dont post my bets.

[poopoo333]

I didnt post my bets but i hit just about everything. I shouda went bigger on cain. I had a jds knockiut of thr night arb. I had like 7k in my accounts about two months ago. I lost about all of it, dropped down to about 550 dollars. I am approaching 2000 now. I have been betting all along but i am barely using full units so i dont post my bets.

IWS was being dumb on my phone so I didn't get to post some of mine either. I lost on Shawn Jordan to win a unit and then I hit that parlay I posted up there along with a bet on Cain Velasquez.

[Luke]

I only bet one fight 5.5 to win 1 dollar on Cormier

[Luke]

I didnt post my bets but i hit just about everything. I shouda went bigger on cain. I had a jds knockiut of thr night arb. I had like 7k in my accounts about two months ago. I lost about all of it, dropped down to about 550 dollars. I am approaching 2000 now. I have been betting all along but i am barely using full units so i dont post my bets.


Glad things are starting to turn around again , Edmann

[edman5555]

Thanks dude. I am keeping an eye out for future events now. Trying to keep my game face on.

[edman5555]

How do you guys see Guillard/Pearson playing out? I feel like Guillard should have the takedown defense to hold off Pearson and the power standing. My only reservation is Guillard is such a flake.

[Svino]

How do you guys see Guillard/Pearson playing out? I feel like Guillard should have the takedown defense to hold off Pearson and the power standing. My only reservation is Guillard is such a flake.

I agree the fight takes place standing. I'd give Guillard the edge in power, Pearson the edge in stamina and brains.

That's a hard one to predict, maybe a coin toss.

[edman5555]

The only thing that suprised me about ufc 166 was gonzaga knocking out jordan. Did anyone see that coming?

[trotterz]

The only thing that suprised me about ufc 166 was gonzaga knocking out jordan. Did anyone see that coming?
I didn't ... .I had about 7 bets for that night .... my Jordan bet is the only one I lost. .. didn't expect Gonzaga to Knock him out at all.

[Svino]

The only thing that suprised me about ufc 166 was gonzaga knocking out jordan. Did anyone see that coming?

Can't say I was particularly surprised. That struck me as one of those almost-coin-toss-one-guy-is-going-to-KO-the-other-quickly HW fights.

[Ludo]

The only thing that suprised me about ufc 166 was gonzaga knocking out jordan. Did anyone see that coming?

Heavyweights getting knocked out with a certain quickness doesn't ever surprise Me anymore.

[Svino]

Cain beat up JDS so bad, he punched him back in time to round 2.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/10/21/4862316/ufc-166-report-junior-dos-santos-remember-second-round-velasquez-mma-news

[Mr. IWS]

Dam!

[Luke]

Y'all are fucking retarded. That is all.

^^^^ what me and poopoo were told for saying JDS doesn't stand a chance

[Luke]

This we can use this again:

JDS wasn't himself.
He was going through divorce.
He was hurt.
He stuffed takedowns until he got punched in the face.

[MMA_scientist]

I didnt post my bets but i hit just about everything. I shouda went bigger on cain. I had a jds knockiut of thr night arb. I had like 7k in my accounts about two months ago. I lost about all of it, dropped down to about 550 dollars. I am approaching 2000 now. I have been betting all along but i am barely using full units so i dont post my bets.

I haven't been posting either, just because I am so far iff in the tracker it seems pointless.

I had a couple of plays but didn't watch the event, I went the prop route for the first time in forever. I have been betting a lot lately actually. Just quietly.





203313119-1 10/19/13 5:45pm $100.00 $54.64 $154.64 Win 10/19/13 11:30pm Props Fighting 1135 Nelson/Cormier starts round 3 -183* vs Fight won't start round 3
203313001-1 10/19/13 5:44pm $242.00 $100.00 $342.00 Win 10/19/13 11:59pm Props Fighting 1057 Dos Santos/Velasquez starts round 2 -242* vs Fight won't start round 2

I am greedy again. So I am betting again.

[Luke]

^^^^I thought maybe you and X got married and ran off together

[poopoo333]

950

That was my biggest play of the night.

[Luke]

^^^bol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MMA_scientist]

^^^bol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't get it. What's the joke?

[Luke]

I don't get it. What's the joke?

Ask poopoo

[poopoo333]

Yeah Scientist, ask me.

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah Scientist, ask me.

Nah. Fuck it.