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Luke
01-19-2014, 01:58 PM
http://www.bestfightodds.com/events/758.png


If there's another thread, too bad.

Mr. IWS
01-19-2014, 02:04 PM
I like the Karate guy

Luke
01-19-2014, 02:06 PM
I like the Karate guy

Carmont?

Mr. IWS
01-19-2014, 02:07 PM
Carmont?

larusso

Luke
01-19-2014, 02:11 PM
I can't bet Machida anymore. Ever since he was KO'd by Rua he's seems scared to engage people. He barely beat Hendo, lost to Rampage because he wouldnt engage, and did lose to Davis (even though it was a robbery) for the same reason. When he decides to stop being a vag, I'll bet him again

MMA_scientist
01-20-2014, 09:42 AM
I love Mousasi at those odds. I don't know for sure that Machida would win a striking battle even if he did decide to fight. But with his "evasion" tactics, every fight is a coin toss.

poopoo333
01-20-2014, 11:00 AM
I'll probably bet Mousasi at those odds but he hasn't fought at 185 since around 2009, has been injured, and hasn't fought any "top competition" in a very long time. Also factor in that it is in Brazil etc...he might have a rough go of things.

poopoo333
01-20-2014, 11:06 AM
Jacare/Erick Silva parlay. All in.

Luke
01-20-2014, 04:51 PM
Jacare/Erick Silva parlay. All in.

Who the heck is Silva fighting?

edman5555
01-20-2014, 05:17 PM
I love Mousasi at those odds. I don't know for sure that Machida would win a striking battle even if he did decide to fight. But with his "evasion" tactics, every fight is a coin toss.

Maybe he learned his lesson.

poopoo333
01-21-2014, 12:34 AM
Who the heck is Silva fighting?

Exactly.

Luke
01-22-2014, 06:29 PM
Erick Silva (-1200) vs. Takenori Santo (+600)


::lmao::

edman5555
01-22-2014, 09:42 PM
Zubair tuhuguv vs thiago tavares: i went through zubair tuhuguvs record and hes a lot like most russian fighters and his record is padded with cans. Did anyone ever notice that about russian? I think they must do it to get into the ufc. That and they have a tendency to fight a lot of fights in a short period of time. Thats zuhuguv as well. A lot of fights in a somewhat short period of time versus a lot of inexperienced guys. I would think that tavares should eat this guy alive. Hes only 23 years old by the way. He lost to a guy with three fights in 2012. In 2013 he barely squeaked by a guy with four or five fights with two losses. He has one win by submission so i doubt that will be a problem. He miht have some power and standup ability as well as wrestling. Im going to have to wait until his ufc profile pops up. He could be a good wrester or something like that. Either way tavares seems like a really stiff test for this guy.

poopoo333
01-22-2014, 10:41 PM
That's a fake write up.

Luke
01-22-2014, 11:41 PM
That's a fake write up.

Its a fake card

MMA_scientist
01-23-2014, 02:14 PM
Zubair tuhuguv vs thiago tavares: i went through zubair tuhuguvs record and hes a lot like most russian fighters and his record is padded with cans. Did anyone ever notice that about russian? I think they must do it to get into the ufc. That and they have a tendency to fight a lot of fights in a short period of time. Thats zuhuguv as well. A lot of fights in a somewhat short period of time versus a lot of inexperienced guys. I would think that tavares should eat this guy alive. Hes only 23 years old by the way. He lost to a guy with three fights in 2012. In 2013 he barely squeaked by a guy with four or five fights with two losses. He has one win by submission so i doubt that will be a problem. He miht have some power and standup ability as well as wrestling. Im going to have to wait until his ufc profile pops up. He could be a good wrester or something like that. Either way tavares seems like a really stiff test for this guy.

Thiago is pretty inconsistent, but it does sound like an experience mis-match. That said, he's russian, so you know he is a bad ass

Luke
01-23-2014, 03:03 PM
Thiago is pretty inconsistent, but it does sound like an experience mis-match. That said, he's russian, so you know he is a bad ass


Lucy, you got some splaining to do.....



SPX
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Are you two sending love notes confessing you're undying love?

poopoo333
01-23-2014, 03:06 PM
No. I bet it went something like this:

X: Those guys are dicks.

Scientist: Yeah, they are immature.

X: I'm looking at www.emogirls.com

edman5555
01-23-2014, 03:16 PM
Tavares isnt inconsistent.

poopoo333
01-23-2014, 03:27 PM
Tavares isnt inconsistent.

His inconsistency is very difficult to predict.

MMA_scientist
01-23-2014, 03:32 PM
Lucy, you got some splaining to do.....



Are you two sending love notes confessing you're undying love?

What should I explain? We're gay lovers.

Seriously, I have talked to him via pm a bunch of times- since he disappeared more or less- but you already knew that, because you are stalking him.

Luke
01-23-2014, 04:05 PM
What should I explain? We're gay lovers.

Seriously, I have talked to him via pm a bunch of times- since he disappeared more or less- but you already knew that, because you are stalking him.


Lol!!!!

I just saw he was on here yesterday so I clicked on his profile. It shows what thread you're currently viewing when you get to the profile page. I just felt like giving you shit when I saw what he was doing

MMA_scientist
01-23-2014, 04:12 PM
Lol!!!!

I just saw he was on here yesterday so I clicked on his profile. It shows what thread you're currently viewing when you get to the profile page. I just felt like giving you shit when I saw what he was doing

Ah. I figured you had access to logins etc and knew that he had popped in a few times.

Luke
01-23-2014, 04:59 PM
Ah. I figured you had access to logins etc and knew that he had popped in a few times.

I have no special powers..........Zak wont' allow it

Luke
01-23-2014, 05:08 PM
Wait........why is X mad at the rest of us but not at you when you did the same thing that we did?


Well, I was really just piling on. I am glad you're not homeless this month, but that's a losing strategy.

You are being a pussy. Get a job waiting tables or something. You are borrowing money at usurious rates from horrible people in order to eat and pay rent rather than demean yourself by working a shitty job temporarily.

I know you aren't asking for advice, but since you are posting your financial woes, I don't feel bad chiming in. I am sure you know your situation isn't good, but I don't want to see you in way worse situation. It is one thing to be broke bohemian lifestyle chasing your art, it is another thing going into debt to do it.

MMA_scientist
01-23-2014, 05:34 PM
I'm not going to air it. I'm not being secretive or dramatic, its the same respect I'd give to anyone (including you a few times) who tells me something directly rather than publicly. I do the same thing IRL. That said, we have mainly discussed the camera he sold me.

Maybe if you cleared out your PM box once a year you would have seen that I asked you if he was dead a couple weeks after "the vanishing."

I think it is funny that Ludo vanished too, but no one cares.

Luke
01-23-2014, 06:21 PM
I'm not going to air it. I'm not being secretive or dramatic, its the same respect I'd give to anyone (including you a few times) who tells me something directly rather than publicly. I do the same thing IRL. That said, we have mainly discussed the camera he sold me.

Maybe if you cleared out your PM box once a year you would have seen that I asked you if he was dead a couple weeks after "the vanishing."

I think it is funny that Ludo vanished too, but no one cares.


Haha, I wasn't asking you to reveal what he's PMing you........I honestly dont care. I just wanted to know why he's not mad at you but is still butthurt at the rest of us.


Maybe if you cleared out your PM box once a year you would have seen that I asked you if he was dead a couple weeks after "the vanishing."

I just cleaned it out yesterday so feel free to start sending nudes again.


I think it is funny that Ludo vanished too, but no one cares.

I honestly didn't even realize he did(is that bad?). He's probably over there with SPX now

poopoo333
01-23-2014, 06:45 PM
BOL! I didn't realize Ludo vanished either. He is probably trying to take the best selfie picture of himself that he can before posting a pic.

Mr. IWS
01-24-2014, 09:04 AM
I have no special powers..........Zak wont' allow it

I cant even access other peoples accounts, I can only edit them.

And I was just looking to see when the last time Ludo posted the other day, I wanted to see what he thought about the Karate/Machida thread.

Luke
01-24-2014, 12:19 PM
I cant even access other peoples accounts, I can only edit them.

And I was just looking to see when the last time Ludo posted the other day, I wanted to see what he thought about the Karate/Machida thread.


New Years Day. I guess we should send the search party out

poopoo333
02-03-2014, 01:49 PM
Do Bronx/Erick Silva/Jacare ITD pays +104

edman5555
02-03-2014, 05:38 PM
Jacare itd is risky imo. I already took do bronx and souza for -200. I am looking at thiago tavares.

Luke
02-03-2014, 05:57 PM
I'll probably just take Souza-Silva to win 200 or 300 . Think its -250

poopoo333
02-03-2014, 10:55 PM
I am very interested in Mousasi/Machida. I think it is a great match up and I cannot really make a good prediction either way. I feel that with Mousasi traveling to Brazil and having to cut to 185 for the first time in an extremely long time, he has some outside factors going against him. I also feel that Machida can take advantage of this by initiating the grappling (which he doesn't do enough imo, he has great takedowns), but he probably won't because he likes to run around the cage for laps during the fight.

Oh and

Mousasi is good so he might win.

poopoo333
02-04-2014, 03:22 PM
Main card for Machida-Mousasi on @FOXSports1 (https://twitter.com/FOXSports1) is scheduled for 1:30-4AM local time in Brazil. Machida walks to Octagon around 3:10AM. Yikes.

::lmao::

Luke
02-04-2014, 04:10 PM
Fine with me . At least it not 1:30-4am my time

edman5555
02-04-2014, 05:22 PM
I like machida decision at two to one

poopoo333
02-05-2014, 12:16 AM
Jacare/Silva/Oliveira. $780 to win $500...done.

Luke
02-05-2014, 12:37 AM
Jacare/Silva/Oliveira. $780 to win $500...done.

Hmmm, maybe I'll do the same . Was already planning to do Silva-Souza

Mr. IWS
02-05-2014, 08:33 AM
Fine with me . At least it not 1:30-4am my time

Ill just be getting up then.

::handshake::

poopoo333
02-05-2014, 02:07 PM
Thiago Tavares is out. Injured.

poopoo333
02-05-2014, 02:12 PM
Just put $100 on Jacare by TKO at +350. That was an off line. +280 now.

Luke
02-05-2014, 04:26 PM
Just put $100 on Jacare by TKO at +350. That was an off line. +280 now.

Well I'll be on Jacare one way or another, so I hope he TKO's him on the first punch of the fight

edman5555
02-08-2014, 06:29 PM
Well I'll be on Jacare one way or another, so I hope he TKO's him on the first punch of the fight

It opened at plus 750. I wish i had taken it.

Luke
02-08-2014, 09:18 PM
I'll be doing a Jacare/Silva/Oliveria parlay also

edman5555
02-08-2014, 09:49 PM
Anyone consider it possible that jacare loses? Carmont can mix it up pretty well and should have an edge in the striking department.

Luke
02-08-2014, 11:26 PM
Anyone consider it possible that jacare loses? Carmont can mix it up pretty well and should have an edge in the striking department.

No. I just watched Carmont fight today. He should have received loses for the Lawlor and Larkin fights . If not for those fights Souza would be -900 . Dont think he stands a chance.

poopoo333
02-09-2014, 12:58 AM
Jacare will kill Carmont if it's a pure striking match.

edman5555
02-09-2014, 09:30 AM
I just watched carmont vs lawlor and it was damn close. I don't think Carmont would have won if the ref wasn't constantly breaking them up whenever lawlor got ahold of him. He was most lucky there.

edman5555
02-09-2014, 11:14 AM
Finished Carmont vs larkin. I thought it was pretty close as well. He has definitely gotten lucky in his decisions. One thing I've noticed is he gets caught in a lot of submission attempts. He scrapes by and survives them but obviously Jacare would make that much more difficult. I also noticed that a large amount of his striking game is his kicks. I don't see how he will be able to use them as effectively against Souza because he will not want to leave himself open to the takedown. Lawlor landed on him with his hands and Larkin was clearly outstriking him. Jacare should be able to do decently on the feet and really dominate him if he gets him to the ground. Carmonts defensive wrestling is pretty decent though so it could be difficult for him to do that.

Svino
02-15-2014, 06:41 PM
If it weren't for the Okami fight, I might have been tempted to bet Carmont, but Jacare's striking has improved a lot.

Luke
02-15-2014, 07:53 PM
Like Mousasi by UD at +1355 . If my parlay hits, I'll probably throw 10 or 20 on it