METAMORIS III March 29th

[Luke]

- E BRAVO VS R GRACIE


93131
EDDIE BRAVO WINS FIGHT


+200




93132
ROYLER GRACIE WINS FIGHT


+150




93133
FIGHT OUTCOME IS A DRAW


-325






FIGHT EXACT OUTCOME - E. BRAVO VS R. GRACIE


93134
BRAVO WIN BY CHOKE


+350




93135
BRAVO WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+500




93136
BRAVO WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


+900




93137
BRAVO WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+1400




93138
GRACIE WIN BY CHOKE


+250




93139
GRACIE WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+600




93140
GRACIE WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


+1100




93141
GRACIE WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+1200




93142
FIGHT OUTCOME IS A DRAW


-325








METAMORIS III - RAFAEL MENDES VS CLARK GRACIE


93143
R MENDES WINS THE FIGHT


+150




93144
C GRACIE WINS THE FIGHT



+250




93145
FIGHT OUTCOME IS A DRAW


-325












2:00 AM


FIGHT EXACT OUTCOME - R MENDES VS C GRACIE


93146
MENDES WIN BY CHOKE


+200




93147
MENDES WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+350




93148
MENDES WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


+650




93149
MENDES WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+1200




93150
GRACIE WIN BY CHOKE


+500




93151
GRACIE WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+900




93152
GRACIE WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


+1500




93153
GRACIE WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+1800




93154
FIGHT OUTCOME IS A DRAW


-350







KEENAN CORNELIUS VS VINNY MAGALHAES


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2:00 AM


METAMORIS III -KEENAN CORNELIUS VS VINNY MAGALHAES


93156
CORNELIUS WIN THE FIGHT


+200




93157
MAGALHAES WIN THE FIGHT


+180




93158
FIGHT OUTCOME IS A DRAW


-300











2:00 AM


FIGHT EXACT OUTCOME - K CORNELIUS VS V MAGALHAES


93159
CORNELIUS WIN BY CHOKE


+300




93160
CORNELIUS WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+350




93161
CORNELIUS WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


+1000




93162
CORNELIUS WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+1500




93163
MAGALHAES WIN BY CHOKE


+280




93164
MAGALHAES WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+400




93165
MAGALHAES WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


+1250




93166
MAGALHAES WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+1500




93167
FIGHT ENDS IN A DRAW


-300







DEAN LISTER VS RENATO SOBRAL


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2:00 AM


METAMORIS III - DEAN LISTER VS RENATO SOBRAL


93170
LISTER WIN THE FIGHT


-300




93171
RENATO WIN THE FIGHT


+500





93172
FIGHT OUTCOME IS A DRAW


EV











2:00 AM


FIGHT EXACT OUTCOME D LISTER VS R SOBAL


93174
LISTER WIN BY CHOKE


+250




93175
LISTER WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+600




93176
LISTER WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


-115




93177
LISTER WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+950




93178
SOBAL WIN BY CHOKE


+1000




93179
SOBAL WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+1250




93180
SOBAL WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


+3000




93181
SOBAL WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+4000




93182
FIGHT ENDS IN A DRAW


EV







GUI MENDES VS SAMIR CHANTRE


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2:00 AM


METAMORIS III - GUI MENDES VS SAMIR CHANTRE


93184
MENDES WIN THE FIGHT


+200




93185
CHANTRE WIN THE FIGHT


+250




93186
FIGHT OUTCOME IS A DRAW


-500











2:00 AM


FIGHT EXACT OUTCOME G MENDES VS S CHANTRE


93187
MENDES WIN BY CHOKE


+250




93188
MENDES WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+400




93189
MENDES WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


+1000




93190
MENDES WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+1300




93191
CHANTRE WIN BY CHOKE


+400




93192
CHANTRE WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+500




93193
CHANTRE WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


+1200




93194
CHANTRE WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+1400




93195
FIGHT ENDS IN A DRAW


-500







ZAK MAXWELL VS SEAN ROBERTS


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2:00 AM


METEMORIS III - ZAK MAXWELL VS SEAN ROBERTS


93198
MAXWELL WIN THE FIGHT


+200




93199
ROBERTS WIN THE FIGHT


+200




93200
FIGHT OUTCOME IS A DRAW


-450











2:00 AM


FIGHT EXACT OUTCOME Z MAXWELL VS S ROBERTS


93201
MAXWELL WIN BY CHOKE


+300




93202
MAXWELL WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+500




93203
MAXWELL WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


+850




93204
MAXWELL WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+1250




93205
ROBERTS WIN BY CHOKE


+300




93206
ROBERTS WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK


+500




93207
ROBERTS WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK


+850




93208
ROBERTS WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION


+1250




93209
FIGHT ENDS IN A DRAW


-450







-- METAMORIS III -- ------ FIGHT DISTANCE PROPS ------


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2:00 AM


WILL BRAVO/GRACIE FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?


93215
YES - BRAVO/GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


-325




93216
NO - BRAVO/GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+275











2:00 AM


WILL MENDES/GRACIE FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?


93219
YES - R MENDES/C GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


-350




93220
NO - R MENDES/C GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+290











2:00 AM


WILL CORNELIUS/MAGALHAES FIGHT GO FULL DISTANCE?


93223
YES - CORNELIUS/MAGALHAES FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


-300




93224
NO - CORNELIUS/MAGALHAES FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+250











2:00 AM


WILL LISTER/SOBRAL FIGHT GO FULL DISTANCE?


93227
YES - LISTER/SOBRAL FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


EV




93228
NO - LISTER/SOBRAL FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


-120











2:00 AM


WILL MENDES/CHANTRE FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?


93229
YES - MENDES/CHANTRE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


-500




93230
NO - MENDES/CHANTRE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+400











2:00 AM


WILL MAXWELL/ROBERTS FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?


93233
YES - MAXWELL/ROBERTS FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


-450




93234
NO - MAXWELL/ROBERTS FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+365

[Luke]

See anything good Scientist?

[Mr. IWS]

All in on Bravo!

[MMA_scientist]

I have a lot of thoughts. Honestly bravo is more likely to get the sub imo. He's much heavie and he has a more sub oriented game. There are no points but royler will most likely get the better and it will be a draw. Actually the match wont happen.

Lister by leg lock has value off the top of my head. Thats his game now its all he does.

Ill look closer when i am at a computer

[MMA_scientist]

They way the lines are set up, it will be hard to win by picking winners, most of the matches will go to a draw. Picking the subs is probably the only way to do anything.

Royler is the rightful favorite. Honestly Royler should style all over Eddie, but he will probably be extremely cautious. Bravo by other is +1400. Eddie usually doesn't even use his rubber guard, he usually plays half guard (at least when I have seen him rolling with high level guys). He basically has the triangle/omoplata game, and the twister. He might pull out some crazy twister variation. That's probably the bet if you are going to bet that match. That said, in the vids I have seen, Eddie gasses after only a few minutes of rolling. I am sure he is going to ramp up his training, but he definitely not in as good of shape as Royler, who was fighting top 20 MMA guys just a couple years ago and is still in very good shape. Eddie might gas, he hasn't competed in 11 years in anything. But I doubt there is a sub in the match tbh.

Rafa is the rightful favorite over clark IMO. A lot of people think Rafa is the best in the world, I don't, but he is definitely several notches above Clark. The only reason this match is interesting is that Clark is several weightclasses higher (imagine a grappling match between Demetrious JOhnson and someone like Donald Cerrone). One is the best at his weight, but he might still ose to a guy that is a contender but not a great at a higher weight. Probably Rafa by choke is the bet. Clark isn't going to sub Rafa.

Keenan vs. Vinny. Vinny is the odds favorite and Vinny has won more obviously, but I think Keenan is going to beat him. Keenan has done a sub only tourney before with Lloyd Irvin's Kumite, and he has been more active and has a better team. He might even sub him. Keenan @ +200 doesn't seem that bad.

Sean Roberts vs. Zak Maxwell. Even odds. Neither of these guys is a top top level guy, but they both bring it. Roberts did the Kumite and got 2nd to Keenan I think. I wouldn't bet this one at all, anything can happen here, but if forced I would pick Roberts.

Lister/Babalu. Babalu is an underrated grappler, but this is a mismatch. Dean is probably going to heel hook him. It is the only sub prop that is - odds, and for a reason. Since getting out of MMA, Lister has become a leg lock wizard, he is the best in the world at them IMO. That said, Babalu is a tough grappler, he beat Frank Mir in a grappling match a few years back and he has a well rounded game himself. Maybe fight ends in a draw at EV is the way to go.

I enjoyed typing this to myself. It is like when Luke used to break down boxing and no one read it. Also, where are you getting these lines?

[MMA_scientist]

They way the lines are set up, it will be hard to win by picking winners, most of the matches will go to a draw. Picking the subs is probably the only way to do anything.

Royler is the rightful favorite. Honestly Royler should style all over Eddie, but he will probably be extremely cautious. Bravo by other is +1400. Eddie usually doesn't even use his rubber guard, he usually plays half guard (at least when I have seen him rolling with high level guys). He basically has the triangle/omoplata game, and the twister. He might pull out some crazy twister variation. That's probably the bet if you are going to bet that match. That said, in the vids I have seen, Eddie gasses after only a few minutes of rolling. I am sure he is going to ramp up his training, but he definitely not in as good of shape as Royler, who was fighting top 20 MMA guys just a couple years ago and is still in very good shape. Eddie might gas, he hasn't competed in 11 years in anything. But I doubt there is a sub in the match tbh.

Rafa is the rightful favorite over clark IMO. A lot of people think Rafa is the best in the world, I don't, but he is definitely several notches above Clark. The only reason this match is interesting is that Clark is several weightclasses higher (imagine a grappling match between Demetrious JOhnson and someone like Donald Cerrone). One is the best at his weight, but he might still ose to a guy that is a contender but not a great at a higher weight. Probably Rafa by choke is the bet. Clark isn't going to sub Rafa.

Gui/Chantra. I am pretty confident this is going to be a draw. Gui is better, probably no sub.
Keenan vs. Vinny. Vinny is the odds favorite and Vinny has won more obviously, but I think Keenan is going to beat him. Keenan has done a sub only tourney before with Lloyd Irvin's Kumite, and he has been more active and has a better team. He might even sub him. Keenan @ +200 doesn't seem that bad.

Sean Roberts vs. Zak Maxwell. Even odds. Neither of these guys is a top top level guy, but they both bring it. Roberts did the Kumite and got 2nd to Keenan I think. I wouldn't bet this one at all, anything can happen here, but if forced I would pick Roberts.

Lister/Babalu. Babalu is an underrated grappler, but this is a mismatch. Dean is probably going to heel hook him. It is the only sub prop that is - odds, and for a reason. Since getting out of MMA, Lister has become a leg lock wizard, he is the best in the world at them IMO. That said, Babalu is a tough grappler, he beat Frank Mir in a grappling match a few years back and he has a well rounded game himself. Maybe fight ends in a draw at EV is the way to go.

I enjoyed typing this to myself. It is like when Luke used to break down boxing and no one read it. Also, where are you getting these lines?

[Luke]

bookmaker has them.

[Luke]

WILL BRAVO/GRACIE FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?


93215
YES - BRAVO/GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


-300




93216
NO - BRAVO/GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+260







500 USD No Parlay/Buy


6:00 PM


WILL MENDES/GRACIE FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?


93219
YES - R MENDES/C GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


-300




93220
NO - R MENDES/C GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+260







500 USD No Parlay/Buy


6:00 PM


WILL CORNELIUS/MAGALHAES FIGHT GO FULL DISTANCE?


93223
YES - CORNELIUS/MAGALHAES FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+280




93224
NO - CORNELIUS/MAGALHAES FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+240







500 USD No Parlay/Buy


6:00 PM


WILL LISTER/SOBRAL FIGHT GO FULL DISTANCE?


93227
YES - LISTER/SOBRAL FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+110




93228
NO - LISTER/SOBRAL FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


-150







500 USD No Parlay/Buy


6:00 PM


WILL MENDES/CHANTRE FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?


93229
YES - MENDES/CHANTRE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


-400




93230
NO - MENDES/CHANTRE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+320







500 USD No Parlay/Buy


6:00 PM


WILL MAXWELL/ROBERTS FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?


93233
YES - MAXWELL/ROBERTS FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


-425




93234
NO - MAXWELL/ROBERTS FIGHT FULL DISTANCE


+350

[Luke]

This is tonight. All in on who??

[poopoo333]

Sorry, I don't bet on pro wrestling.

[zY|]

Yeah you do.

[Luke]

Zak Maxwell vs. Sean Roberts
OFFICIAL RESULT: Draw
Gui Mendes vs. Samir Chantre
OFFICIAL RESULT: Mendes def. Chantre (baseball choke)
Dean Lister vs. Renato “Babalu” Sobral
OFFICIAL RESULT: Draw
Keenan Cornelius vs. Vinny Magalhaes
OFFICIAL RESULT: Bout scratched due to Magalhaes illness. Details here (http://fansided.com/2014/03/29/vinny-magalhaes-withdraws-metamoris-3/). Kevin Casey stepped up as late replacement.
Keenan Cornelius vs. Kevin Casey
OFFICIAL RESULT: Cornelius def. Casey (inside heel hook)
Rafael Mendes vs. Clark Gracie
OFFICIAL RESULT: Draw
Eddie Bravo vs Royler Gracie
OFFICIAL RESULT :Draw

[Svino]

I heard Bravo almost subbed Royler again.

[edman5555]

Poopoo only bets gay mud wrestling flyweight division. Is eddie bravo a gay mud wrestler.

[Luke]

I heard Bravo almost subbed Royler again.

He did. Most agree Bravo schooled Royler



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg1HN-GviSk

[Luke]

Just watched the video. You can tell Royler was in a lot of pain but wouldn't have tapped out even if his leg snapped in half

[MMA_scientist]

Eh, I don't know how close it really was. Calf slicers look like they hurt, but some guys aren't bothered by them (including me). I was more worried about the outward pressure on his knee, but I think Royler was more frustrated that he couldn't move than anything. You hardly ever see a little guy tap out to leg locks, much less a compression lock.

Eddie did get the better of him though. And Royler also acted like a douche several times, Eddie came off really well, which will only reignite his idiotic fan club. It definitely was not as one sided as people are making it out to be. Royler had several sweeps too. Eddie started to take over later in the match, which was unexpected, I thought Eddie would gas out. All in all, it was a good event, I was definitely more entertained than any UFC card in the last 2 years. Massive improvement over Metamoris 2 by having Florian/Glover doing the commentary.

The only really shitty match was the Rafa/Clark match IMO. It was everything gay about sport jj.

Also shitty was that Keenan's match fell through with Vinny, he ended up facing Kevin Casey, which Casey had no chance in (but hit a couple of really nice foot sweep takedowns).

Babalu did way better than I thought he was going to. He looked like he was completely outclasses for about 7 minutes, and then did well. Dean still got the better of him by a large margin, but I was impressed with Babalu.

[Luke]

Seems like the Eddie Bravo (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/2262/eddie-bravo) vs. Gracie family rivalry won’t end after Metamoris 3.

Eleven years after Bravo’s historical submission victory over Royler Gracie (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/1238/royler-gracie) at ADCC, they fought to a draw in a 20-minute, submission-only match at Metamoris 3 (http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/3/29/5557600/metamoris-3-live-blog) in Los Angeles, Calif., but the result wasn’t enough for Royce Gracie (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/656/royce-gracie).
According to a report on the Underground (http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2305273/Royce-Gracie-threatened-Bravo-after-Metamoris-3/?&page=1), Royce Gracie went backstage looking for Bravo after the 20-minute match, and the MMA legend confirmed the story to MMAFighting.com.


"I wanted to talk to him for years, but never had the chance to meet him," Royce Gracie told MMAFighting.com on Monday. "I met him after the fight and he was there, throwing up. Royler dominated him so much, he did so much strength, that he threw up after the fight."

Royce Gracie said he liked what Bravo said on the mat after the rematch, but wasn’t happy with the comments he made about jiu-jitsu and the Gracie family in the past.
"I told him that I liked what he said after the fight, but didn’t like the fact that he always talked trash about Royler and my family," he said. "He stood up and started yelling, so I also raised the tone of my voice and told him I didn’t like it."

"He said he always gave my family credit, but I know it’s not true," Gracie continued. "He always talks trash about my family. Enough with this s---. He said he never talked bad about my family and he always gave us credit. He kept raising the tone of his voice, and I told him to shut up, so Jean Jacques (Machado) came in, said we didn’t need this and asked (Bravo) to leave."
Royce Gracie hasn’t competed in a grappling match since a controversial loss to Hidehiko Yoshida (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/858/hidehiko-yoshida) at PRIDE in 2002, and he won’t consider competing against Eddie Bravo in a future edition of Metamoris. However, he wouldn’t rule out a MMA fight with Bravo.
"Can we slap each other? Can we beat each other?" Gracie replied a laugh when asked if he’d accept to fight Bravo at Metamoris.
"I’m a vale-tudo fighter. I’m not a fighter to score points of fight with time limit. Let’s (fight) with no time limit and with punches allowed. I’m a vale-tudo fighter, I don’t compete in (grappling) tournaments."




BOL . Royce is delusional

[MMA_scientist]

BOL . Royce is delusional

Yeah, he has been for a while now. All of the old school Gracies are completely insane and delusional.

[Luke]

Yeah, he has been for a while now. All of the old school Gracies are completely insane and delusional.

I understand. Its a pride thing.

Does bravo even know how to strike though......for a MMA fight?

[MMA_scientist]

I understand. Its a pride thing.

Does bravo even know how to strike though......for a MMA fight?

I doubt it. Eddie would kill Royce in a BJJ match. Royce would kill Eddie in MMA though. So, basically, I really hope they don't make this happen in any venue.

[Luke]

I doubt it. Eddie would kill Royce in a BJJ match. Royce would kill Eddie in MMA though. So, basically, I really hope they don't make this happen in any venue.

I'd watch wither one

[edman5555]

I would like to see bravo best royce in bjj. Ive noticed the delusional aspect about the gracies. Renzo used to refer t himself as the fucking legend. I am the legend, renzo gracie. Royce always looks so arrogant. I know who they are and that they are important and all but i dont really like the arrogance. They act like the are kings.

I know you dont like bravo scientist but i never really had an issue with him. Yeah maybe he is more ofna business man than anything else and he makes cheesy music but hes never come off as a dick. Never been arrogant or anything. Hes just a little odd.

[edman5555]

Well maybe im being harsh about renzo. Hes pretty cool just maybe a little nuts.

[MMA_scientist]

I would like to see bravo best royce in bjj. Ive noticed the delusional aspect about the gracies. Renzo used to refer t himself as the fucking legend. I am the legend, renzo gracie. Royce always looks so arrogant. I know who they are and that they are important and all but i dont really like the arrogance. They act like the are kings.

I know you dont like bravo scientist but i never really had an issue with him. Yeah maybe he is more ofna business man than anything else and he makes cheesy music but hes never come off as a dick. Never been arrogant or anything. Hes just a little odd.

I don't really dislike Bravo himself. I dislike his 10th planet cult-like following and the fact that he gets way more credit that he deserves in terms of accomplishments. The reality is that he never won anything in BJJ. He beat Royler when Royler was 38, that's it (he got destroyed in the next round by Leo Viera). He didn't even use his "system" in that match. I thought Eddie did really well in the Metamoris match, much better than anyone thought he would do. It doesn't mean anything in terms of overall BJJ community though. I just dislike all the dishonest hype, not so much Eddie himself, who does usually come off pretty well in interviews and has given nothing but credit to the Gracie clan, and Jean Jacques Machado. I love JJM, one of my all time favorite grapplers, and I learned a ton from him in a couple of seminars.

I dislike Royce more than Bravo tbh, if they were to fight, I would root for Eddie or a double knockout. I really don't like the Gracie clan, from all accounts Helio was a terrible human being. I don't like Royce, I don't like Rickson. I do like Royler, but he made an ass of himself in that match- fighting dirty, trying to get out of the bad spot on the reset. Renzo, I have never met, but everyone just says he is crazy for real, not just a douche like his brothers. I dislike the Torrance Gracie Academy much more than 10th Planet.

They are way worse than 10thp about making up ridiculous lies and selling out. The main difference is that they (Gracie clan, Gracie Academy) actually did accomplish something, whereas 10th Planet still has not produced a single top calibur grappler. Personality wise and in terms of respect for the men themselves, I am not a fan of the Gracies (I am talking about Helio and his sons, not the new generation guys). But in terms of what they accomplished, I respect that.

As for Bravo vs. Royce, I don't even think it would be competitive. Royce is a lot bigger though, so who knows. I don't even try to argue that Royce is as good a grappler as Eddie. Eddie is better at sport BJJ, its a fact.

[edman5555]

What stories have you heard about helio? id love to hear them if you have time to write them out.

[MMA_scientist]

Just the normal stuff you hear- he had several families at the same time (Rickson is the maid's son), he supposedly said some pretty terrible things to people after Rolls died, can't remember who exactly, but it had something to do with none of his legitimate kids being nearly as good as Rolls and Rickson and he couldn't hack that. He also had the Gracie family trait of pride that goes so far it is obvious denial (he still claimed he was undefeated even though there is a video of him getting beaten by Kimura). He would not acknowledge that as a loss. Also, he was supposedly a really bad thug (not the weakling the propaganda spins him to be) and would regularly beat people up or have his clan. I have heard he killed some people in Brazil as well. All around POS by most measures.

That said, a lot of pioneers are supremely flawed people.

[edman5555]

Tell me more about the clan attacks and murders.

[MMA_scientist]

I don't have anything specific to tell you. An old guy from the old days in Brazil just told me some stories, and he said that Helio killed a guy on a bus once right in front of him. It may not even be true. I have heard about the beatings from a lot of sources though, and I don't even think they thought it was a big deal. I will say that I have not heard a lot of positive things about his character other than from the Gracie Academy and his kids.