Sonnen vs. Galvao at Metamoris 4

[MMA_scientist]

Rumored card:

Main event: Andre Galvao vs Chael Sonnen.
- Kron Gracie vs Benson Henderson
- Saulo Ribeiro vs Comprido Medeiros
- Dean Lister vs Josh Barnett
- Keenan Cornelius vs Kevin Casey
- Kit Dale vs Garry Tonon
-Orlando Sanchez vs Vinny Magalhaes

Galvao is not that great of a bottom position grappler but he can still tap Sonnen. Kron will tap Bendo within 60 seconds. Lister vs. Barnett is interesting for sure. No interest in watching Keenan destroy Casey again.

All said, great card IMO.

[Luke]

Am I nuts or shouldn't Galavo and Lister kill Sonnen and Barnett?

[Luke]

What ever happened to Kyra Gracie? That bitch could have made millions in the UFC

[MMA_scientist]

She's still around. Mostly she poses half naked in her gi for magazines. She is never going to fight in MMA. I can't even recall the last BJJ comp she did. I think she is pregnant.

[MMA_scientist]

Am I nuts or shouldn't Galavo and Lister kill Sonnen and Barnett?

If Galvao ever gets on top, Sonnen will be submitted. He isn't really a high guard, triangle type guy, so I could see Sonnen surviving for a long time just by handing out in guard and not trying anything, kind of like what Couture did with Jacare. He'll never pass guard or score a point, but he might be able to survive. He would have 0% chasnce of beating Galvao, but he might be able to survive for a while.

Lister vs. Barnett, I don't really know. Babalu damn near beat Lister at Metamoris 3 after Dean got tired. Barnett is huge and he knows the leg lock game, so you never know.

Kron/bendo is the biggest mismatch IMO. Bendo is a great fighter, but he gets subbed by local brown belts at the Arizona Open, Kron is going to sub him easily IMO.

[MMA_scientist]

What ever happened to Kyra Gracie? That bitch could have made millions in the UFC

Here. I think this came out a month ago in some grappling mag:

https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/1796709_624252887664272_460740335782713216_n.jpg

[Luke]

^^^^^^^^^god damn!!!

[Mr. IWS]

Would rear naked choke

[MMA_scientist]

Sonnen needs some new material. I don't understand why every one thinks he is so good at promos...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-8GOrnTgAU

[Luke]

Sonnen needs some new material. I don't understand why every one thinks he is so good at promos...



That's all he's got. No one knew his name before he started with the crazy talk.

And what f-ing championship did he ever walk away with?

[MMA_scientist]

And what f-ing championship did he ever walk away with?

Strikeforce? No. Maybe the 1998 senior FS wrestling nationals?


I'm just saying I don't get why people think it is clever at all... to me it just seems lame and stale.

[Luke]

Strikeforce? No. Maybe the 1998 senior FS wrestling nationals?


I'm just saying I don't get why people think it is clever at all... to me it just seems lame and stale.

I don't think he's clever at all. I did think it was funny when it first started, but quickly got old

[Mr. IWS]

I still love the guy. He literally doesnt let the facts get in the way of a good story.

[Svino]

Are they gonna care that Sonnen is testing positive for all kinds of shit?

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/6/28/5853710/chael-sonnen-fails-second-drug-test-tests-positive-for-hgh-and-epo

[Mr. IWS]

Are they gonna care that Sonnen is testing positive for all kinds of shit?

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/6/28/5853710/chael-sonnen-fails-second-drug-test-tests-positive-for-hgh-and-epo


Maybe hes trying to get his wife pregnant again?

[Luke]

Maybe hes trying to get his wife pregnant again?

BOL!!!!!

[Luke]

There's no doubt in my mind that's he's been on all this shit for years, but cycled off close to fight time. These random tests really got him

[edman5555]

Wow he is really getting it bad here. It was only a month ago that dana white was talking about him being the next ufc president. That can't happen now. He lost the credibility.

[MMA_scientist]

No one actually ever thought Sonnen was clean did they? This is just confirmation of what everyone already knew. Kind of like when Overeem got caught.

Sonnen is in Barnett territory with his steroid use though... he is a 3x loser and still wont admit it. But I seriously doubt metamoris will care. Maybe they will will surprise me, but I doubt it. Steroids are worse in BJJ than in MMA

[edman5555]

No one actually ever thought Sonnen was clean did they? This is just confirmation of what everyone already knew. Kind of like when Overeem got caught.

Sonnen is in Barnett territory with his steroid use though... he is a 3x loser and still wont admit it. But I seriously doubt metamoris will care. Maybe they will will surprise me, but I doubt it. Steroids are worse in BJJ than in MMA

Makes sense, there is no testing in bjj.

[Luke]

Anyone seen Serena Williams lately? She has to be on HGH. Bitch looks like a linebacker for the Bears

[Mr. IWS]

Anyone seen Serena Williams lately? She has to be on HGH. Bitch looks like a linebacker for the Bears

dat ass tho

[Luke]

dat ass tho

Which one?

[JimGunn]

That's all he's got. No one knew his name before he started with the crazy talk.

And what f-ing championship did he ever walk away with?

Well, Chael should have earned the WEC Middleweight Championship belt in 2008 even though Paulo Filho came in seven pounds overweight for their second fight. Some organizations like Cage Warriors do that now, where if one fighter comes in overweight, the belt is not on the line for them, but it is for their opponent that made weight.

[Luke]

Well, Chael should have earned the WEC Middleweight Championship belt in 2008 even though Paulo Filho came in seven pounds overweight for their second fight. Some organizations like Cage Warriors do that now, where if one fighter comes in overweight, the belt is not on the line for them, but it is for their opponent that made weight.

Boxing has always done that

[Luke]

7:00 PM


MMA TOURNAMENT - METAMORIS 4


91501
CHAEL SONNEN


+1600



91502
ANDRE GALVAO


-1500



91503
DRAW


+301






7:00 PM


MMA TOURNAMENT - METAMORIS 4


91504
JOSH BARNETT


+750



91505
DEAN LISTER


-800



91506
DRAW


+200






7:00 PM


MMA TOURNAMENT - METAMORIS 4


95107
KEENAN CORNELIUS


+140



95108
VINNY MAGALHAES


+115



95109
DRAW


-200






7:00 PM


MMA TOURNAMENT - METAMORIS 4


95110
SAULO RIBEIRO


EV



95111
RODRIGO "COMPRIDO" MEDEIROS


+160



95112
DRAW


-200






7:00 PM


MMA TOURNAMENT - METAMORIS 4


95113
KIT DALE


+350



95114
GARRY TONON


+500



95115
DRAW


-315

[MMA_scientist]

The draw @ +200 in Barnett/Lister is a great bet. That should be - odds IMO. Barnett is a douche but he knows leg locks, which is what Dean would use to sub him. Plus he is huge and will be on top. Prediction: Draw with Barnett staying on top almost the whole match.

I think there is a decent chance Sonnen can take Galvao to a draw too. Probably not, but it isn't horrible. Probably no bet in that one. Galvao is going to "win" and he will probably submit him, but the line is probably about right. Prediction: Galvao by armbar.

Comprido has been competing a lot, but in smaller tourneys. I actually just saw him last weekend at a tourney I did in Chicago. He's kinda fat. Saulo is probably in better shape. That one is a toss up and will probably also go to a draw. Comprido has the edge because he has been active, but Saulo is better in general. Prediction: Saulo by collar choke late in the match.

Keenan vs. Vinny will almost certainly go to a draw. If anyone wins, it will be Keenan IMO. -200 isn't bad for the draw. Prediction: draw with Keenan getting the better of it.

Not betting Dale/Tonnon. Both are recent black belts, and have done passably well so far, but they aren't they top level. It will be a lot of action, and both guys attack. Tonon would probably be my pick. Prediction: draw with no clear advantage.

[Mr. IWS]

Boxing has always done that

Speaking of boxing, there have been some really good fights the last couple weekends.

[Luke]

Speaking of boxing, there have been some really good fights the last couple weekends.


That Crawford-Gamboa fight was awesome. Poopoo and I needed Crawford. I don't know about him, but by the end, I was almost jumping up and down in the living room

[Mr. IWS]

That Crawford-Gamboa fight was awesome. Poopoo and I needed Crawford. I don't know about him, but by the end, I was almost jumping up and down in the living room

Excellent fight.

The one the week before, that white boy from NY that beat Provodnikov was excellent too

[Luke]

Excellent fight.

The one the week before, that white boy from NY that beat Provodnikov was excellent too

Como say what............you're watching boxing now?


But yeah, boxing has been great the past few weeks

[Mr. IWS]

Como say what............you're watching boxing now?


But yeah, boxing has been great the past few weeks


I always watch, usually Sunday mornings on HBO on a repeat, but lately these fights got me tuning in live.

[Svino]

The draw @ +200 in Barnett/Lister is a great bet. That should be - odds IMO. Barnett is a douche but he knows leg locks, which is what Dean would use to sub him. Plus he is huge and will be on top. Prediction: Draw with Barnett staying on top almost the whole match.


Interesting, I saw the +200 Draw line on Barnett / Lister and came in to ask what people thought about that. So thanks.