View Full Version : UFC 194 Dec. 12th Aldo-McGregor
Featherweight
José Aldo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Aldo) (c)
vs.
Conor McGregor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conor_McGregor) (ic)
Middleweight
Chris Weidman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Weidman) (c)
vs.
Luke Rockhold (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Rockhold)
Middleweight
Ronaldo Souza (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo_Souza)
vs.
Yoel Romero (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoel_Romero)
Who I THINK will win: Aldo, Weidman, Jacare.
But as for who I WANT to win, I'd love to see Conor and Luke take those belts.
If I had to pick right now, I'd say McGregor, Weidman, and Jacare win.
poopoo333
08-17-2015, 10:36 PM
McGregor/Aldo is very interesting. I'm guessing McGregor probably wins. I don't think Aldo can KO McGregor. His chin is really really good. Aldo by decision or McGregor stops Aldo. I'll take Aldo for a bet because he'll end up ~+200 IMO.
I think Rockhold will be very competitive with Weidman but I think Weidman wins a decision and probably a close one.
Jacare/Romero is a real good fight. I have to give the edge to Jacare though.
I like Jacare to grapple fuck Romero the way Bruson did for two rds......minus the third rd KO
Conor TKO 2ND. RD
Weidman UD 48-47
Jacare SUB 3RD. RD
Aldo by submission in round 3
Weidman by KO in round 2
Jacare by submission in round 2
Jacare opened as a -170 favorite over Romero today
I'd say that sounds about right but I might be underestimating Romero like I did when he fought Machida.
CriticalHit
08-19-2015, 04:53 PM
Maybe I'm being a pessimist but I could see 2 of these fights falling apart easily. Aldo's withdrawal rate is well established and this fight fell through once. Weidman/Vitor took nearly 2 years to go down and AKA is teeming with injuries. Plus this is like the third time they've tried to schedule Jacare/Romero.
If this card stays intact it's looking beautiful. I have;
Conor 49-46 dec.
Rockhold 48-47 dec.
Jacare sub round 3
Like you say, it's a great card if it stays together. It really is just AMAZING how many fights have fallen apart over the last few years because of injuries. I remember, when I was writing betting articles for this MMA magazine a while back, the frequency with which I would submit my article and then by the time it hit newsstands 1 or more of the fights I capped had been called off. It actually was so bad that they just didn't want to do the articles anymore.
I don't know what the deal is. Not sure if MMA fighters need start training differently or what.
Jacare by sub seems to be unanimous. At -170, I'm probably going to put a little money down on him.
What are the odds for Weidman vs. Rockhold?
CriticalHit
08-19-2015, 05:03 PM
Like you say, it's a great card if it stays together. It really is just AMAZING how many fights have fallen apart over the last few years because of injuries. I remember, when I was writing betting articles for this MMA magazine a while back, the frequency with which I would submit my article and then by the time it hit newsstands 1 or more of the fights I capped had been called off. It actually was so bad that they just didn't want to do the articles anymore.
I don't know what the deal is. Not sure if MMA fighters need start training differently or what.
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I still think my bubblewrap idea would stymie the issue.
Jacare by sub seems to be unanimous. At -170, I'm probably going to put a little money down on him.
What are the odds for Weidman vs. Rockhold?
I'm really not so sure Jacare will be able to get the sub here. Other than Mousasi, he hasn't subbed a top-tier fighter in years. And he couldn't get the sub on Carmont.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it wouldn't shock me at all if it happened but I definitely don't consider it a lock.
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I still think my bubblewrap idea would stymie the issue.
I support it.
Jacare by sub seems to be unanimous. At -170, I'm probably going to put a little money down on him.
What are the odds for Weidman vs. Rockhold?
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Like you say, it's a great card if it stays together. It really is just AMAZING how many fights have fallen apart over the last few years because of injuries. I remember, when I was writing betting articles for this MMA magazine a while back, the frequency with which I would submit my article and then by the time it hit newsstands 1 or more of the fights I capped had been called off. It actually was so bad that they just didn't want to do the articles anymore.
I don't know what the deal is. Not sure if MMA fighters need start training differently or what.
Fighters started dropping out of fights at an alarming rate when the UFC started covering them with insurance. Before if they were injured, they just didn't get paid. Now, if they get injured they get paid a certain amount of money, so they're arent as likely to fight when injured....even if its a small injury
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Will be putting some cash down on all 3 fights for sure.
Like you say, it's a great card if it stays together. It really is just AMAZING how many fights have fallen apart over the last few years because of injuries. I remember, when I was writing betting articles for this MMA magazine a while back, the frequency with which I would submit my article and then by the time it hit newsstands 1 or more of the fights I capped had been called off. It actually was so bad that they just didn't want to do the articles anymore.
I don't know what the deal is. Not sure if MMA fighters need start training differently or what.
Honestly the thing that brought this on was the UFC agreeing to provide health insurance for the fighters, and cover injuries that happened during camp on the policy. This happened around 2010-2011ish, and before that you had guys getting hurt just as frequently, the difference was they fought anyway so that they could say it happened in the cage, and get their medical bills paid.
Will be putting some cash down on all 3 fights for sure.
Same here
The UFC really needs to start following the pattern of this card and putting the biggest stars as the main event. Mighty Mouse should never be a PPV main event
A lightweight bout between John Makdessi (http://mmajunkie.com/tag/john-makdessi) (13-4 MMA, 6-4 UFC) and Yancy Medeiros (http://mmajunkie.com/tag/yancy-medeiros) (11-3 MMA, 2-3 UFC) is the latest addition to December’s UFC 194 lineup.
A lightweight bout between John Makdessi (http://mmajunkie.com/tag/john-makdessi) (13-4 MMA, 6-4 UFC) and Yancy Medeiros (http://mmajunkie.com/tag/yancy-medeiros) (11-3 MMA, 2-3 UFC) is the latest addition to December’s UFC 194 lineup.
How is Makdessi coming back so soon from a broken jaw?
How is Makdessi coming back so soon from a broken jaw?
Its not really that soon. His last fight was in May, this fight isn't till December. That's 7 months.
Jaws heal in about 6-8 weeks.
Joe Proctor- Magomed Mustafae added
Michelle Waterson vs. Tecia Torres added to UFC 194
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CriticalHit
08-31-2015, 06:30 PM
Karate showdown
Is Torres known as a karate fighter? I was unaware.
Is Torres known as a karate fighter? I was unaware.
Torres:
Black belt in Karate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate)[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecia_Torres#cite_note-3)
Black belt in Taekwondo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taekwondo)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecia_Torres#cite_note-r-awakening.com-4)
Mr. IWS
08-31-2015, 06:49 PM
Joe Proctor- Magomed Mustafae added
PROCTOR!!!!!
Torres should be the favorite, imo.
Torres-Waterson opened:
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Mr. IWS
09-03-2015, 04:20 PM
real nice card, looking forward to Souza/Romero
real nice card, looking forward to Souza/Romero
Inb4 half fights get cancelled
I'll believe Souza/Romero when the cage door shuts and they're both inside it.
Demanian Maia-Gunnar Nelson, Max Holloway-Jermey Stephens, and Urijah Faber- Frankie Saenz added to this card
Full Card:
Featherweight
José Aldo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Aldo) (c)
vs.
Conor McGregor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conor_McGregor) (ic)
Middleweight
Chris Weidman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Weidman) (c)
vs.
Luke Rockhold (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Rockhold)
Middleweight
Ronaldo Souza (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo_Souza)
vs.
Yoel Romero (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoel_Romero)
Women's Strawweight
Tecia Torres (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecia_Torres)
vs.
Michelle Waterson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Waterson)
Welterweight
Warlley Alves (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warlley_Alves)
vs.
Colby Covington (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colby_Covington)
Welterweight
Court McGee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_McGee)
vs.
Márcio Alexandre Jr.
Lightweight
John Makdessi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Makdessi)
vs.
Yancy Medeiros (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yancy_Medeiros)
Lightweight
Leonardo Santos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_Santos_%28fighter%29)
vs.
Kevin Lee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Lee_%28fighter%29)
Lightweight
Joe Proctor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Proctor)
vs.
Magomed Mustafaev
Featherweight
Max Holloway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Holloway)
vs.
Jeremy Stephens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Stephens)
Bantamweight
Urijah Faber (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urijah_Faber)
vs.
Frankie Saenz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Saenz)
I'll believe Souza/Romero when the cage door shuts and they're both inside it.
No shit. This is the third time the fight has been booked. They were orginally supposed to fight at UFC 184
More odds released:
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edman5555
09-06-2015, 10:45 AM
Faber Saenz could prove interesting. Im really interested in seeing the Maia-Nelson line movement.
I'm really thinking Jacare should beat Romero convincingly but then again I said the same thing about Machida. . .
I'm really thinking Jacare should beat Romero convincingly but then again I said the same thing about Machida. . .
Romero wont be able to take Jacare down like he did Machida
Yeah Romero might get taken down in this one. Being on the ground with Jacare in any capacity is the exact opposite of where he wants to be. Jacare might be able to match him in power strirking, also.
poopoo333
09-08-2015, 10:34 PM
Lee/Hollaway/Faber parlay. All in.
I think Maia beats Nelson at first thought.
I think Torres beats the karate hottie pretty easily actually.
Lee/Hollaway/Faber parlay. All in.
I think Maia beats Nelson at first thought.
I think Torres beats the karate hottie pretty easily actually.
Torres has dropped from -210 to -145. People all over that hype train.
poopoo333
09-09-2015, 08:19 PM
Torres has dropped from -210 to -145. People all over that hype train.
People already forgot about her getting taken down and controlled by some +800 bum bitch. Torres is good on the feet and on the ground
People already forgot about her getting taken down and controlled by some +800 bum bitch. Torres is good on the feet and on the ground
Oh, I agree. She's not better than Torres anywhere
edman5555
09-10-2015, 04:41 PM
I would think Maia should have a very serious strength advantage over Gunnar, anyone else see that? his main proble, in this fight, IMO, is that he will have to consistently take Gunnar down every round and avoid Gunnars striking.
I would think Maia should have a very serious strength advantage over Gunnar, anyone else see that? his main proble, in this fight, IMO, is that he will have to consistently take Gunnar down every round and avoid Gunnars striking.
I agree about the strength advantage. And while Gunnar's good on the ground, is he Maia good? I don't think so.
Maia at -145? I'd probably take that, though I preferred his opening line of course.
hemanthjava
09-11-2015, 03:21 PM
Featherweight
José Aldo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Aldo) (c)
vs.
Conor McGregor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conor_McGregor) (ic)
Middleweight
Chris Weidman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Weidman) (c)
vs.
Luke Rockhold (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Rockhold)
Middleweight
Ronaldo Souza (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo_Souza)
vs.
Yoel Romero (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoel_Romero)
As always, I will stream this for FREE on http://sportsfred.com/bt-sports-2/
edman5555
09-11-2015, 06:03 PM
Gunnar isnt as good as Maia but he is probably good enough to avoid getting submitted, so therefore he gets a chance to stand with Maia every round. I think he is better there.
Gunnar isnt as good as Maia but he is probably good enough to avoid getting submitted, so therefore he gets a chance to stand with Maia every round. I think he is better there.
The real question is whether or not he can keep Maia from rushing him and taking him down. Maia is usually at a striking disadvantage, but that never seems to stop him from taking fools down and doing whatever he wants with them for three rounds
I actually like Gunnar at first glance
edman5555
09-12-2015, 03:35 PM
The real question is whether or not he can keep Maia from rushing him and taking him down. Maia is usually at a striking disadvantage, but that never seems to stop him from taking fools down and doing whatever he wants with them for three rounds
Thats basically what I am saying.
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