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Can'tPickAWinner
12-23-2017, 09:20 AM
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Can'tPickAWinner
12-23-2017, 10:22 AM
E.K. Sports Associates

1:00 pm 2-units Detroit -3

Can'tPickAWinner
12-23-2017, 10:22 AM
Marc Lawrence

Smoking Hot 17-0 ATS Hawaii Bowl Blowout Special!

Fresno State

Can'tPickAWinner
12-23-2017, 10:22 AM
Goodfella

3* saints

Can'tPickAWinner
12-23-2017, 10:23 AM
King creole

ATLANTA FALCONS /NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
5***** GOY Best Bet on: OVER THE TOTAL

Can'tPickAWinner
12-23-2017, 10:23 AM
SSI Wins Parlays Lifestyle
Jaguars ML/Redskins ML (6 UNITS)

Can'tPickAWinner
12-23-2017, 10:23 AM
SSI Wins Picks

Risked 5 units to win 6.5*Fresno State +130*vs Houston U

Buzz Kill
12-23-2017, 10:01 PM
From Mendoza Line tracking:
Killer Sports (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ivaaEnlwsuDxuzVs87LnfYOUcSNHzCsL/view), not including teasers
MTI 5* (3-0) This week the Philadelphia Eagles -9 over the Oakland Raiders (Dec. 25, 8:30 PM EST)
MTI 4.5* (12-2) This week play the New York Giants +3 1/2 over the Arizona Cardinals (Dec. 24, 4:45 PM EST)

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 08:37 AM
Norm Hitzges


Double Plays

Rams -7
Panthers -10


Single Plays

Browns +6.5
Patriots -12
Giants +3.5
Jags -4
Steelers under 45


Fresno State +2.5

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 08:38 AM
ATS Lock Club

7 Dallas -4.5 vs Seattle 4:25pm
6 Detroit -3 vs Cincinnati 1:00pm
6 Buffalo +11.5 vs New England 1:00pm

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 08:39 AM
Fat Jack


#106 CINCINNATI +4

#107 LA CHARGERS -6.5

#112 Chicago OVER 38

#115 ATLANTA +6

#127 SEATTLE +5

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 08:40 AM
Spartan

3* Game of the Week

San Francisco +4.5

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 08:40 AM
Stephen Nover


3* Seattle / Dallas over 47

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 08:40 AM
Dave Essler


3* Atlanta +6

2* Tennessee +7

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 08:41 AM
Greg Shaker

3* Total of the Week

Cincinnati / Detroit over 43.5


2* New Orleans -5.5

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 08:42 AM
JR ODONNELL

3* Game of the Week

New York Giants +3

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 08:46 AM
I'd like to take the time to wish Everybody here at IWS A Very Merry Christmas



Enjoy the Holidays and Best of Luck with all your action

Istandfortheanthem
12-24-2017, 08:52 AM
Paul Leiner:Today I have a 2500* and 500* NFL winner for you. The NFL regular season is winding down and there are some games that have to be hammered. Thanks and goodluck.

2500* NFL Over 40.5 Redskins/Broncos
500* NFL Falcons +5.5
100* NFL Over 47 Cowboys/Seahawks
100* NFL Lions -3

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 09:04 AM
Indian Cowboy

3-Unit Play. #112. Take Chicago Bears -6.5 over Cleveland Browns (Sunday @ 1pm est)
You you think the Bears and Coach Fox want to lose to the Browns, absolutely not. If there is any team that will get up to face the Browns it probably will be the Bears because they do not want to look like they are regressing in any fashion. The Bears defense is as stout as it comes frankly and given that the Browns will continue to run the gammut with Kizer who simply has his issues against elite defenses, look for the Bears to do enough here to get it done as they are not going to the playoffs, they need a morale and no way in God's Green Earth can this coaching staff afford a loss at the hands of the Browns at this stage.


3-Unit Play. #114. Take Carolina -10 over Tampa Bay (Sunday @ 1pm est)
Tampa Bay played great against Carolina but this team is unbelievably banged up and given that this is a division game, the Bucs coming off a big win against the Packers and the Panthers needing to make a big statement win as they look to play themselves into the Division Title, they need to win this game to send that message. Whereas the Falcons and Saints will battle it out this week, look for the Panthers to take care of business from start to finish as the Bucs are way over valued here and the Panthers should do a great job of getting it done as the Bucs offense will be lackluster against an elite Panthers defense and the Falcons defense played terrible and made the Bucs offense look better than it is.


3-Unit Play. #102. Take Under 47.5 LA Rams vs. Tennessee Titans (Sunday @ 1pm est)
If there is one team that could slow down the Rams offense it could be the Titans. The Rams can score in bunches as the Seahawks found out and the Titans do not want to get embarrassed. Conveniently, LA has a great defense and Tennessee has a woeful offense and that likely sets up for a decent public fade here in the Under.

Calidreaming
12-24-2017, 09:43 AM
Sean Michaels 100 play on Carolina Panthers
any C Jordan 3000 play? thanks

Mr. IWS
12-24-2017, 09:43 AM
I'd like to take the time to wish Everybody here at IWS A Very Merry Christmas



Enjoy the Holidays and Best of Luck with all your action

Merry Christmas!!!

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 10:20 AM
Allen Eastman NFL

7-Unit Play. Take #105 Detroit (-4.5) over Cincinnati (1 p.m., Sunday, Dec. 24)

This play is from my NFL 411 System.

The Bengals are a team that has quit on the season. They were blown out two weeks ago at home by a bad Bears team. Then they were blown out last week on the road at Minnesota. The Bengals have scored just 14 combined points in those two games and the offense has been ineffective over the last month. Detroit is in the middle of the playoff race in the NFC. They do not want to blow it against a team that has nothing to play for. The Lions are 6-0 SU and ATS against teams that are below .500 this year. Detroit will take advantage of a Bengals secondary that is very beat up. And with a big edge at the quarterback position I think that the Lions will get the job done. Lay the points.

Allen Eastman

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 10:20 AM
NFAC

San Fran +4 900
Rams under 47 500
Rams 1h Under 24 500

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 10:20 AM
Steve Merril
NFL

(3% play) L.A. CHARGERS -6.5 (at N.Y. Jets) - 1:00 pm ET #107

-Los Angeles lost 30-13 in Kansas City last week, and off that ugly loss, expect a big effort
-offense is averaging 6.0 yards per play vs. defenses that only allow 5.5 yards per play
-Chargers' defense is giving up 18.2 points per game vs. offenses that average 22 points per game

-New York has lost their last two games by a combined score of 54-19; in terrible current form
-offense is averaging just 5.3 yards per play vs. defenses that give up 5.5 yards per play
-Jets' defense allows 24.4 points per game vs. offenses that only average 21.6 points per game

Play CHARGERS (-) as a 3% play.

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(3% play) NEW ORLEANS -5/-5.5 (vs. Atlanta) - 1:00 pm ET #116

-Atlanta is off 3 straight close games and must travel for second straight road game on short week
-offense is only averaging 22.7 points per game vs. defenses that give up 22.0 points per game
-Falcons' defense has faced terrible offenses that only average 22.4 points per game; big step-up

-New Orleans has scored 30 points or more in their last 4 home games; expect more of the same
-offense is averaging 31.1 points per game at home vs. defenses that only allow 21.9 ppg overall
-Saints' defense gives up 5.5 yards per play at home vs. offenses that average 5.6 yards per play

Play SAINTS (-) as a 3% play.

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(3% play) OVER 52 (Falcons/Saints) - 1:00 pm ET #117

-Atlanta has scored just 53 total points in their last 3 games; need to trade points with the Saints
-offense is averaging 6.3 yards per play on the road vs. defenses that give up 5.7 yards per play
-Falcons' defense has given up 63 points to the Saints in their last two trips to New Orleans

-New Orleans has scored 30 points or more in four of their last five games; in good current form
-offense is averaging 31.1 points per game on 6.8 yards per play at home this season
-Saints' defense is giving up 23.9 points per game at home vs. offenses that average only 22.7 ppg

Play OVER as a 3% play.

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(3% play) SEATTLE +4.5/+5 (at Dallas) - 4:25 pm ET #127

-Seattle is off back-to-back losses with their last being a blowout home loss; expect big effort
-offense is averaging 5.6 yards per play vs. defenses that give up just 5.5 yards per play
-Seahawks' defense is giving up just 18.0 points per game on 5.1 yards per play on the road

-Dallas has won 3 straight games, and with Ezekiel Elliott returning, this line is now over-inflated
-offense is only averaging 5.4 yards per play at home vs. defenses that give up 5.6 yards per play
-Cowboys' defense is giving up 24.1 points per game on awful 6.1 yards per play at home this year

Play SEAHAWKS (+) as a 3% play.

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 10:20 AM
Kelso Sturgeon
15 atl
10 tb
10 bills

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 10:21 AM
Jim Hurley December NFL Underdog of the Year
SF 49ers

hagball52
12-24-2017, 10:32 AM
Colin's Blazing 5
BUF +12
NOR -5.5
JAX -4
LAR - 6.5
SEA +5

dawggy
12-24-2017, 10:34 AM
From Huddle Up Sports (https://www.freeplays.com/handicapper.asp?serviceID=8150).




"We Gave Up Lock of the Year"
Detroit -3
(Cincinnati has called it a season and we're playing Detroit hard)

Early Football Best Bets:
NY Jets +6'
Tampa Bay +10
Buffalo +11
Kansas City -10'

dawggy
12-24-2017, 10:35 AM
From Huddle Up Sports (https://www.freeplays.com/handicapper.asp?serviceID=8150).




$100 Special Info Game:
New Orleans -5'
New Orleans covers or next $100 SPECIAL info winner is free

dawggy
12-24-2017, 10:35 AM
From Huddle Up Sports (https://www.freeplays.com/handicapper.asp?serviceID=8150).




Early High Roller Total
LA Rams/Tennessee over 47
Best Bet Totals:
Carolina/Tampa Bay under 47
LA Chargers/NY Jets under 43
Miami/Kansas City over 43
Denver/Washington over 40'

dawggy
12-24-2017, 10:36 AM
From Huddle Up Sports (https://www.freeplays.com/handicapper.asp?serviceID=8150).




Double Lock Parlay
HRT: Jacksonville/SF under 42
500,000* Bowl Lock: Fresno State +1'

Best Bets
Jacksonville -4
NY Giants +3'
NY Giants/Arizona over 39
Dallas -4'
Dallas/Seattle under 46'

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 10:44 AM
Warren Sharp NFL

denver
tease carolina/giants
seattle over

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 10:49 AM
Hank Goldberg

Lions
Denver
Saints
Nyg
Cowboys

Buzz Kill
12-24-2017, 10:52 AM
Brandon Lang

100 Dimes - Carolina Panthers -10 ... buy it down if its -10.5

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 10:56 AM
Robert Ferringo
GOY
Carolina -10

elnino17
12-24-2017, 10:58 AM
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone and your families. Take care

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 10:59 AM
VSI

3 Unit Play. Take #111 Cleveland +6.5 over Chicago (1:00p.m., Sunday December 24)
No this not a typo! I know the Browns are winless this year and the Browns are 2-11 ATS in their last 13 games but the Chicago Bears are no better. The Bears have lost 6 out of their last 7 games and the Bears offense is not built to blow out teams. Sunday afternoon in Soldier Field we should see a low scoring game and wouldn't shock me to see the winner win by a field goal. Cleveland is 20-9-1 ATS on the road against a team with a losing home record. The Bears are 1-5-1 ATS in their last 7 games.

6 Unit Play. Take #128 Dallas -5 over Seattle (4:25p.m., Sunday December 24 FOX)
Tons of playoff implications are on the line Sunday night at AT&T Stadium and on Christmas Eve evening I see the Boys taking this game at home. The Dallas Cowboys are looking to build on their 3-game winning streak with the home game against a struggling Seattle Seahawks. Seattle has dropped back-to-back games coming to Jerry's World and their last game was an embarrassing loss at home to the Rams 42-7. With this game being played in Dallas and the Cowboys getting back Ezekiel Elliott I see the Boys winning this game and staying in the playoff picture.

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 11:01 AM
Note: Raphael Esparza and Mike Davis have the same top play.

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:01 AM
ASI

LARRY- Season Record (32-35-2 -9.03)

12/24
Atlanta Falcons/New Orleans Saints OVER 52.5 (1PM) ( 2 UNIT SELECTION)
Detroit Lions/Cincinnati Bengals OVER 44 (1PM)
PATRICK- Season Record (15-16-2 +.09)
12/24
Dallas Cowboys -4.5 Seattle Seahawks (425PM) ( 2 UNIT SELECTION)

JEFF- Season Record (28-27-2 -3.54)
12/24
Cleveland Browns/Chicago Bears UNDER 37.5 (1PM) (2 UNIT SELECTION)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers +10 Carolina Panthers (1PM)
Denver Broncos +3 -105 Washington Redskins (1PM)

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:02 AM
CLIENT SOLUTION SPORTS by David

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU & YOUR FAMILIES

COLLEGE HOOPS (47-42 +0.90)


NFL (37-42-7 -10.27)
Tennessee Titans +7 -120 Los Angeles Rams (1pm)
Cleveland Browns +7 -120 Chicago Bears (1pm)
Denver Broncos/Washington Redskins UNDER 40.5 (1pm)
San Francisco 49ers +4 Jacksonville Jaguars (4pm) ( 2 UNIT SELECTION)

COLLEGE BOWL SEASON (3-4-0 -1.75)
Fresno State +2 Houston University (830PM) ( 2 UNIT SELECTION)
client solution sports

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:06 AM
JR ODONNELL


3* CFB TOTAL OF THE YEAR

Houston/ Fresno state over 49

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:06 AM
Jason Sharpe

5 unit Carolina -10
4 unit San Fran +4
3 unit Det/Cin over 44

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:06 AM
YouWinWeWin

Sunday 12/24/17

NCAAF

Fresno/Houston Under 49

NFL

Lions -3
Chargers Under 21 First Half
Rams -6
Cardinals -3
Jaguars -4

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:07 AM
Maximospicks
Top Play
Detroit -3


Best Bet
Tennessee +6
Cleveland +5.5

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:07 AM
LCM Sports:

Seahawks

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:08 AM
Halfmoon (1-5 last week - 56-43 season)

BAL -13.5
CAR -9
BUF +13
DET -4
Rams -6.5
MIA/KC U 43.4
Jax/SF U 42

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:08 AM
Sky Blue (18-18-2, 10-4-1 since week 11)

Titans
Bengals
Seahawks

joe
12-24-2017, 11:08 AM
YES, A very "MERRY CHRISTMAS" to ALL, and a good night !!!!!

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:08 AM
Totals 4 You FB Selections for Early Sunday, Dec 24th

2017 National Football League "UNDER" of the Year!!!!!
Buffalo/New England under 46 1/2

You Win or we'll email you Tonight's Hawaii Bowl Winner Free of Charge!!!

Early NFL Best Bets
Detroit/Cincinnati over 44 1/2
Cleveland/Chicago under 38
Tampa Bay/Carolina under 47
Denver/Washington over 40 1/2

ubu
12-24-2017, 11:10 AM
SportsInsights
NFL 82-55-1
CIN +4.5
SEA Over 47.5
CLE +6.5
TEN +6

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:10 AM
PHILLYGODFATHER

Bengals +5 (gave out early in week)
Seahawks over 47
Patriots under 47
Texans +10
Titans +6.5

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 11:13 AM
Raphael Esparza (VSI) also has

4 Unit Play. Take #228 Fresno St +2.5 over Houston (8:30p.m., Sunday December 24 ESPN - Hawaii Bowl)

Fresno St has already played on the main island this year and stole a victory over Hawaii 31-21 and on Christmas Eve evening in Aloha Stadium in Hawaii I see the Bulldogs winning again. Not only did the Bulldogs win 8 out of their last 10 games but ended the season with a 10-2-1 ATS and I see their momentum carrying over in this bowl matchup between Houston. The Houston Cougars split their last 6 games and I was not sold on Houston in their last road game against Tulane and if they play like they did in that game the Bulldogs easily win this game. A bit shocked that this game was not a 'Pick' as I believe the Fresno St Bulldogs taking control of this game in the second half and they continue to cover football games. Fresno St is 11-1 ATS against a team with a winning record and the Houston Cougars are 2-5 ATs against Mountain West teams.

Sharp Square
12-24-2017, 11:14 AM
Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas and a Safe Happy Holiday!

cpawforpresident
12-24-2017, 11:26 AM
AAA

8* Cincy Over 43

cpawforpresident
12-24-2017, 11:27 AM
Jeff Alexander

5* Cincy +3

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 11:27 AM
Stephen Nover NFL

SEA/DAL OVER 46.5

The Legion of Boom is dead. It doesn't exist without Richard Sherman and Kam Chancellor. Injuries, attribution and low morale have turned Seattle's dominant defense into a mediocre unit vulnerable to a great running back. During its last two games, Seattle has given up a combined 72 points to the Jaguars and Rams. Leonard Fournette rushed for 101 yards against Seattle and Todd Gurley ran for 152 yards and three touchdowns this past Sunday versus the Seahawks. Now Seattle draws maybe the best running back in football, Ezekiel Elliott. Elliott is going to be fresh returning from a six-game suspension. Elliott's presence transforms Dallas' entire offense especially Dak Presoctt, making him far more dangerous with play-action and targeting downfield receivers. The Cowboys averaged 31.6 points a game during Elliott's past six games never once falling below 28 points in this span. The desperate Seahawks are going to put up their share of points, too. Russell Wilson is having his finest season one worthy of league MVP status. The Cowboys have defensive injuries, too, particularly in the secondary and at linebacker. The Cowboys have recorded only five sacks in their last six games, lowest in the league during this time frame. So Seattle's below average offensive line isn't going to be as exposed as normal.


TEN +7

There's line inflation here because of the Rams trampling the Seahawks, 42-7, and the Titans losing to the 49ers after also falling to the Cardinals two weeks ago. The Rams are in a tough situational spot now and the Titans finally are back home where they play much better. Tennessee has won nine of its last 10 home games. Marcus Mariota has had four of his five highest rated passing games at home this season with the other one coming against San Francisco this past Sunday. The Rams have a banged-up secondary. Just two weeks ago, they surrendered four touchdown passes to the Eagles. The lookahead line for this game last week before Sunday's action was Rams minus three. So the line has more than doubled. The Rams were impressive against the Seahawks. But Seattle also played terrible, by far its worst game of the season. Still, that was the Rams' biggest victory in more than a decade and all but clinched the NFC West Division title for them. The Rams have a lot of youth, including their head coach. They have to travel cross-country in an obvious letdown spot right before Christmas. They're going to encounter a desperate and physical Titans team. Tennessee has the ability to control clock, taking advantage of LA's 24th-ranked run defense with one of the better running back tandems in the league with DeMarco Murray and Derrick Henry. A hidden key to the Rams' success is their special teams. Now those special teams took a monster hit with Greg Zuerlein out for the season with a herniated disc in his back. He was having one of the best kicking seasons in NFL history leading the league in scoring while making 38 of 40 field goals. So the Rams go from having the best kicker in football to going with unknown Sam Ficken.


DEN +3.5

The bar is not set very high here for Denver to cover, plus I have to believe the veteran Broncos show up knowing Vance Joseph isn't likely to be fired and the roster will be retooled during the off-season. This is an important showcase game for the Broncos especially quarterbacks Brock Osweiler and Paxton Lynch. Both could see action. I don't like either player, although Osweiler is coming off a rare splendid performance. Keep in mind, though, Washington ranks 29th in scoring defense and will be without Zach Brown, the top tackler in the league. The Redskins defense had to defend 80 plays last week, a monster number made worse by this being so late in the season. So they could easily wilt. The Broncos will be the much fresher team since they played last Thursday. I do like the Broncos' defense very much. This is a defense that carried them to a Super Bowl victory just two seasons ago and still retains dominant pass rushers and lock down defensive backs. Denver has been playing its best defense during the past two weeks holding the Jets and Colts to a combined 13 points and less than 350 yards. The Broncos defense can dominate weak offenses and Washington's offense is sputtering done in by a cluster injury problem in the offensive line and its top weapons out. The Redskins permitted 23 sacks last season. They've allowed 38 already this season and will be minus their best offensive lineman with left tackle Trent Williams out with a knee injury. The Redskins could have another new offensive line combination this week depending on injuries. Kirk Cousins can't generate much offense anymore because of his makeshift offensive line and down his top receiver, Jordan Reed, and best running back, Chris Thompson. Washington has weak special teams, too, so its offense doesn't often get good starting field position. I'm expecting the crowd count to be way down with this game rendered meaningless so the Redskins' home field advantage is reduced.

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 11:30 AM
The Prez

5% Washington Redskins -3.0 (-119)

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 11:33 AM
Tony Finn

4% Cleveland Browns 6.5 (-108)


In what has been another stellar NFL campaign it is noteworhty to state that I have not backed Cleveland at any point this season. And it has been a successful strategy so far. The Browns are 2-11 ATS over their last 13 games and winless in 2017.

Count on two variables being critical to this game for the Browns. First, they close their season at Pittsburgh next week. And this is their one true opportunity to not be an 0-16 club. Expect nothing but all-out effort by a Browns club that will be much more motivated than their counterpoint on Sunday.

In a nutshell the Brownies are better equiped to score points when comparing the personnel of both teams. The Bears are as vanilla and pedestrian as any team in the league, more so in truth, and while their rookie quarterback has been growing in his role they are no worthy of the handicap they are offering this week.

The playerswill not give their all out effort for soon to be fired coach John Fox, The Bears defense doesn't do anything special to create turnovers and defense that ranks in the bottom half in takeaways. And while it is easy to laugh at the Brownies the same can be said about Chicago.

Getting a touchdown in this event with inconsistent DeShone Kizer and his integrated wide out Josh Gordon - in combination Corey Coleman and tailback Isaiah Crowell make this arguably the strongest play of Week #16.

The Bears are simply not a club you can support carrying a touchdown handicap. They are not equited nor do they have the DNMA to cover a number like this Sunday's spread.


5% Detroit Lions -3.0 (+100)


There isn't a lot to analyize in this Non-Conference event between the alive Lions and the lame-duck Bengals. There a handful of NFL team that can claim disappointment over the last decade-plus but few as significant as the Bengals. Cincy missed their window with Dalton two years back and the talented and smart signal caller deserved more than he was offered by his coaching staff and front office. However, now it is time to dismantle this team and the first player out should be Dalton. He isn't close to who he was three to four season ago.
HC Marvin Lewis is on his way out, as is his staff, and the front office is already planning how they will approach next season, their current roster and gthe draft.
You won't hear or see just how injury riddled this club is on ESPN because they are not a team that will be in this year's postseason and they don't have a revelant player that will be a free agent. It isn't a stretch to not only cliam this team is done in 2017 but are utterly depleted.

Not just injury plagued but the team as a whole are disinterested. Additionally they have seven starters from their decent defense that is on the shelf. This inlcudes their three best linebackers.

It isn't typically profitable to play against teams that have nothing to play for. In this case they typcially have nothing to lose, either. But this play is more about what the Lions have to play for and the advantages they have in this event. Detroit's weaknesses are also the Bengals soft spots.

The Lions can actually run the football on Sunday against the injury plagued Cats. Also there is plenty of evidence that Detroit is the master of teams with losing records. Detroit is 6-0 SU and 5-0-1 ATS versus this category. Looking at the Lions wins and covers this season you will find they have defeated Arizona, the Giants, the Brownies and the Bucs... and the Bears twice. This is the category that Cincy resides in.

Detroit is in a must win situation and when you have a quarterback with a QB rating of 100 against a defense like the Bengals sport it is double-digit victory makings.

The Bengals have no answwer for Stafford to Golden Tate and Marvin Jones -- their seclondary is in shambles -- and that alone makes Detroit a 10=plus point winner in this event.

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:39 AM
Sports cash System12/24

Main Bet level 1 cardinals

Bet level 3 redskins
Bet level 1 jaguars
Bet level 2 cowboys

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:40 AM
tommy brunston

7th-Ever
150
DIME
NFL Play of My Career

Revenge Game of the Year
saints -6

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:41 AM
Tiger

CFB 227 Houston U -2½

111 CLE BROWNS +6

Sean14371
12-24-2017, 11:47 AM
Anyone seen Vegasdave? Thanks in advance

golden contender
12-24-2017, 11:51 AM
Christmas Eve NFL Non Conference Game of the Year goes Later afternoon, Early card has a 5* Play from a 25-0 system and the Double system Hawaii Bowl goes tonight. NFL Comp play below


The NFL Comp play is on the Cincy Bengals. Game 106 at 1:00 eastern. The Bengals are in their last home game here and will play hard for the coach in this one. Week 16 home dogs with a 40.5 or higher total that are off a road dog loss vs an opponent off a home win have failed to cover just once in 29 years. The Lions have failed to cover 10 of 13 as a road favorite in this range and are 1-5 in this series. The bengals have covered 8 of 10 off 2 or more losses. Finally The Lions are 0-12 Ats when they are off a home game and visiting a non-divisional opponent that suffered a positive turnover margin in each of their last two games. Take the Points. On Christmas even Rob has the NFL Non Conference Game of the year under the tree along with an Early 25-0 Power system play and the Hawaii Bowl. Message or see us on facebook to jump on. For the NFL Free play. Take the points with the Bengals. Rob V- GC Sports

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:51 AM
SPORTS INSURANCE ADJUSTERS

NFL Service Plays

5* Jacksonville -4 vs San Fran

Seattle +3.5 vs Dallas

Washington -3 vs Denver

Chargers -1/Atlanta +11 6 Point Teaser

Seattle vs Dallas Over 46.5

Bowl Service Play

Fresno St. +2 vs Houston

uwinnow
12-24-2017, 11:52 AM
NORTHCoast 3*'s jets & Carolina 3* UNDER Fresno St Bowl, his TRIPLE Marquees is ALSO Under Fresno St gm

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:53 AM
RAINMAN (John Rainey Memphis TN)


10 UNIT.....JAX
5 UNIT.....KC

Regular Plays
TENN
DET
FRESNO ST

uwinnow
12-24-2017, 11:54 AM
Arthur Ralph SuPk Saints - 5 1/2, Blue Ribbons Denver +4, Rams - 5 1/2, Arizona - 3 1/2,Seattle + 4 1/2, OVER 52 Falcons gm
Free Play Fresno ST +2 all released Sat 7pm

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 11:55 AM
Doc's NFL

7Unit Play

#111 Take Cleveland Browns +6.5 over Chicago Bears (Sunday 1 pm CBS) TOP NFL GAME OF THE WEEK.
Many people believed this is the game Cleveland would win this season to avoid an 0-16 winless season. The Bears are never a strong play as a favorite, and they are 0-6 ATS (0-6 straight-up) in their last 6 games as a home favorite. John Fox has not done enough to earn another season, and Mitch Trubisky threw three interceptions last week in Detroit. The Bears are banged up in the trenches on both sides of the football, and the underdog is 7-2 ATS (1 push) in Chicago's last 10 games.

pirrana
12-24-2017, 12:02 PM
any FAT JACK baskets?

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:03 PM
Root

Football today

Pinnacle (http://www.cappersmall.com/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fcappersmall2.com%2Flines.ph p) Titans
Inner Circle 49ers
Perfect Play Bengals
No Limit Cowboys

Millionaire Houston U in the bowl game.

Basketball pass

batjag
12-24-2017, 12:10 PM
Executive 400% Redskins -3 250% Cougars -2 150% Rams 100% Jets KC

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:10 PM
Trace Adams

Sunday's Selection ...

For Sunday, Raise The Bar 1500♦ is Tennessee plus the points at home against the L.A. Rams. At 6:30 am eastern time, the Titans are the +6 1/2 point dogs in Vegas and offshore. Note: If the price you happen to get on Tennessee is either +6 1/2 or +7 points, go ahead and buy the half-point up on the Titans.

swaminator
12-24-2017, 12:11 PM
Maddux 20* col 6-3 nfl 6-7-1
#110 - NFL - 20 units on Tennessee +7

Merry Christmas Eve TO ALL AT INVEST and RX!
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bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:11 PM
Chris Jordan
TRIPLE YOUR WAGER
3000♦ NFL Release in 35 Years

My 3,000♦ Winner for today is on the DETROIT LIONS in their interconference clash versus the Cincinnati Bengals. As I release this play at 11:30 pm pacific, the number I see on this game is Detroit -3.


As long as the books are offering you Detroit between -3 and -4', be sure you're buying the half point down in this game

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:12 PM
Jack Brayman

TODAY'S WINNER

Tonight's Winner and Rating: 40 Dime OVER Atlanta/New Orleans

Line/Total: 52 as of 2:45 am eastern.

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 12:12 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DR08iyXV4AA-NGq.jpg

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:12 PM
Al DeMarco - GM

SUNDAY

15 DIME play on Carolina at home against Tampa Bay. The Panthers are -10 as of 6:15 am pacific. As you know I'm a firm believer in buying the 1/2-point when the line crosses 3, 4, 7 and sometimes 10. In this case buy it down on Carolina

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:12 PM
Sean Michaels

SUNDAY

100 DIME release on the Panthers at home against Tampa Bay. Carolina is -10 at 5:50 A.M. my time here in Vegas on Sunday morning.

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:13 PM
Eric Schroeder

Today's Winner:

My 100 Dime Winner is on the DALLAS COWBOYS in their NFC showdown against the Seattle Seahawks. As I release this play at 12 am pacific, the number I see on this game is Dallas -4 1/2. If the books are offering you anywhere between -3 and -4 1/2 with the Cowboys, be sure you're buying this half point down.


Update - Dallas is -4 as of 7:50 am pacific.

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:13 PM
Joey Juice

Sunday's Play

75 Dime play on the Carolina Panthers.
As I go live with my release at 6:45 am eastern time, the Panthers are the -10 point favorites.


Note: I advise buying the half-point down on Carolina if your line is either -10 or -10 1/2 points.

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:15 PM
Anthony Redd

Sunday's Play

100 Dime selection on the Atlanta Falcons against the New Orleans Saints. As I release this play at 4:40 am Pacific in Vegas, the line on Atlanta is +5 1/2.

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:15 PM
Brandon Lang

Sunday's Selection

My 100 Dime selection is on Panthers over the Bucs. The current line on this game at 8:20 am Sunday is -10 in Vegas and offshore. If your line is -10 or -10 1/2 I advise buying the 1/2 point down. Be sure to shop around for the best line availabl

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:16 PM
Brad Wilton

Your Sunday Winner...

Sunday winner is a 100 Dime release on the Saints minus the points against the Falcons at Superdome in New Orleans. At 7:40 am Vegas time on Sunday morning the Saints are -5 point favorites.

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:16 PM
Mathew Parker

Sunday Selection ...

50 DIME

Dallas

Price (-4 ) as of 10:45 am Eastern

Instructions: Buy the hook down on Dallas between -3 and -4 1/2

bmd1803
12-24-2017, 12:19 PM
Mario Rojas's picks (CandelaDeportiva)

Best pick:
(# 105) Lions vs Bengals (Total 1st half: over 21) *2000

Secondaries picks:
(# 111) Browns vs Bears (Cleveland +6) *1500
(# 115) Falcons vs Saints (Atlanta +5.5) *1500
(# 119) Dolphins vs Chiefs (Miami +10.5) *1000

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:21 PM
Tom Stryker

40-11 ATS NFL LATE-SEASON STRONG SYSTEM PLAY
Browns

100% ALOHA BOWL GOLDEN INVESTMENT
Fresno State

Mizzou
12-24-2017, 12:21 PM
Pred. Machine bowls:
Not exactly tearing it up but:

Houston -2.5
Houston over 50

both strong plays

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:24 PM
Wise Guy (Javier)

Sun Dec 24th, 2017 1:00pm EST

10 Top Side Play · [110] Tennessee Titans

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:30 PM
MTi's 3-team, 10-point teaser of the year

5-Star Panthers pk, Patriots -1.5, Rams +3.5

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:33 PM
Ptlocksmith

Fresno
Broncos
Chargers
Cardinals
Seahawks

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:33 PM
Mike Missanelli
49ers
cowboys

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:34 PM
marco d'angelo/sports unlimited

5 Cincinnati
5 New Orleans over
4 Houston in the bowl game
Late money play Atlanta

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:34 PM
Cousin Sal
Over Tb/car
Cinn
Jac

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 12:37 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DR1CkvuXcAAwHbe.jpg

New York Knight
12-24-2017, 12:38 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DR1DH2pX4AInVsb.jpg

Gobigo
12-24-2017, 12:42 PM
Las Vegas Pipeline 75* anyone

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:45 PM
Ferringo

8-Unit Play. Take #114 Carolina (-10) over Tampa Bay (1 p.m., Sunday, Dec. 24)
Note: This is our Divisional Game of the Year.

Tampa Bay's cover against the Falcons on Monday Night Football was a fluke. Jameis Winston played out of his mind. The Bucs got a ton of calls all night from the refs. The Falcons missed some golden opportunities to really put that game away - and the Bucs still needed a backdoor touchdown in the final minutes to cover. Tampa Bay was decimated going into that game against Atlanta. And then they lost 10 more players to injury. They are without three of their best defenders at DT, LB and CB. And now they could be without two starting offensive linemen, wideout DeSean Jackson, and tight end O.J. Howard. They just don't have anyone. The Bucs also have to go on the road after a short week and play a team that manhandled them 17-3 the first time they played. This is just a bad matchup for Tampa Bay. Winston doesn't have the patience or the accuracy to handle Carolina's Cover-2. And if the Panthers were able to shut down and harass Aaron Rodgers last week they can do the same to Winston this week. Tampa Bay doesn't have anything to play for and they just don't have enough healthy bodies. They have lost four straight games, there are rumors of dissension in the lock room, and after maxing out (and losing) on MNF I just don't see them coming with a huge effort in this one. Carolina, on the other hand, could still win the NFC South and they are jostling for playoff position. They've been dominating at home and they should be able to physically dominate this beat-up Tampa Bay team on both sides of the ball. Make no mistake: Carolina won't hold back or take it easy on a division rival. I think that they could bury the Bucs early, and if they do then Tampa Bay will likely just roll over. I'm playing for a blowout from a Panthers team that's won six of seven and is highly motivated.

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:45 PM
Billy Coleman 40-23 NFL season

4* TBay Carolina over 46.5
4* San Francisco + 4
3* Cleveland + 6.5

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:45 PM
Derek Hayes

$200 Browns +6

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:46 PM
NFAC full card

Titans +6 1000
San Fran +4 900
Jets +7.5 750
Bengals +3.5 750
Denver +3.5 500
Bucs +10 500
Rams under 47 500
Rams 1h Under 24 500

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:46 PM
MARTY OTTO

NFL
20* Big O - Tennessee +7 -120

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:46 PM
Dr Bob

3*cinn - tenn
2*tbay
1*frisco - Texans - under bears - under philly
sop--saints

Dr. B
12-24-2017, 12:48 PM
Can'tpickawinner you see any Bill Hilton - Gameday today, TIA!!!!

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:48 PM
Bondi

4* New Orleans
3* Tennessee , Denver

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:50 PM
Vegas Dave:

We have the opportunity to cash 8 units today because we have won the first leg of our teasers. The only thing we need to cash 4 units is Atlanta +13 and we have 4 units pending on Seattle +12 ( we got this before line moved) If you just want to ride those out you can 8 units is a huge day!

If you are just joining today then play the following
2 team 7pt teaser
Atlanta +13
Seattle +11.5
Risk 6 units

Atlanta first half +3.5
Risk .25 units
Atlanta +6.5 ( buy half point )
Risk .75 units

Seattle First half +3
Risk .25 units
Seattle +5 (buy half point)
Risk.75 units

3 team 7pt teaser
Skins +4.5
Titans +13
Bengals +10.5

Risk .5 units

4 team 7pt teaser
Atlanta
Over
Seattle
Over
Risk .25 units

4 team long shot parlay
Atlanta +pts
over
Seattle +pts
over
Risk .125 units

4 team long shot parlay
Atlanta first half +pts
over
Seattle first half +pts
over
Risk .125 units.

A unit is 2.5% of your bank roll

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:51 PM
Cajun Sports Wire

5* New Orleans -5, Under 43.5 Jack/SF

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:52 PM
Hsw

cleveland

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:58 PM
Underdog (Lock)
Tennessee

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:58 PM
Rocky steam lock. Detroit. Rams

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 12:59 PM
the real swoop
carolina under 47 3*
bears over 37 2*
bucs +10 2*
atlanta +5' 2*
buffalo+11' 2*
dallas under 47 2*
wash-3 1*
cincy+3' 1*

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 01:02 PM
Exodus to Black

36-15 run
NFL
Bengals+3.5
49ers+4

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 01:12 PM
Gavazzi
4% buff
3 jets
3 tenn
3 sf

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 03:07 PM
Sports bank
strong
seattle

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 03:07 PM
The coach
strong
fresno state

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 03:07 PM
Hsw

arizona

Can'tPickAWinner
12-24-2017, 03:08 PM
Lenny Stevens
20* Dallas
20* JAX
10* NE
10* Arizona

Iceman25
12-24-2017, 03:16 PM
Any one seen ness Legend Play? TIA and happy holidays

ubu
12-24-2017, 04:09 PM
SportsInsights
NCAAF
HOU -2.5
HOU Under 51

BONTRAGER
12-24-2017, 09:26 PM
Who else got hit hard with Robert Ferringo GOY Carolina? Are these guys for real or scammers? 50% of GOYs here lose.

Gmoney121
12-24-2017, 10:21 PM
Who else got hit hard with Robert Ferringo GOY Carolina? Are these guys for real or scammers? 50% of GOYs here lose.



In case this is a real question...... 97% of the handicappers posted on this site are pure scam artists, and pray on the weak minded people, who can’t handicap themselves.




If any handicapper does not have an area on their web site, “CLEARLY” documenting all of their pasts releases, are pure sleezeball, trash cans...... “MY ADVISE, STAY AWAY FROM EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT DOES NOT SHOW YOU IN BLACK & WHITE WHAT THEIR PREVIOUS SELCTIONS WERE.”

bmd1803
12-25-2017, 12:42 AM
Very few handicapper actually make a sports pick but they can’t living with that so they have to connect with Vegas to betray us and a lot scammers take some picks that we posted on service play thread to sell as their picks