UFC on FX 7 Vitor Belfort vs Michael Bisping

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  • SPX
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    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
    He did beat Massenzio and Wallace (0-3 UFC)... he barely beat Wallace- I think that could have easily gone to Wallace (I remember because I bet it). Stann is good slugger, but with different matchmaking, he wouldn't even be in the UFC IMO. Massenzio and Wallace aren't exactly top 10 proving wins.
    You could easily engineer of murderer's row of guys and make him 0-4 pretty quickly, but that doesn't mean that he's not a solid striker with improving T3D and grappling abilities. Give the dude his due: He's come a long way since his WEC days and even come a long way since his first couple of UFC fights.

    I say if he's not top 10 then he's only a slot or two outside of it. Def top 15.

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  • edman5555
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    Yeah chael has some balls. Gotta give him that. Vitor is a little crazy with the title shots. He justs demands them without wins in that weight class. I think he is worse than Chael.

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  • SPX
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    I think Sonnen would probably beat Vitor, but it's certainly not guaranteed. I'd like to see it. Before the Jones fight Sonnen should really have to beat at least one guy at 205, though.

    I also LOLd a bit at the end of that vid:

    Cruz: "I think you're building up quite a line, man."

    Sonnen (smug and slightly disgusted look on his face): "Bring 'em on."
    Last edited by SPX; 01-21-2013, 02:57 PM.

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  • MMA_scientist
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    Originally posted by SPX
    Massenzio, Wallace
    He did beat Massenzio and Wallace (0-3 UFC)... he barely beat Wallace- I think that could have easily gone to Wallace (I remember because I bet it). Stann is good slugger, but with different matchmaking, he wouldn't even be in the UFC IMO. Massenzio and Wallace aren't exactly top 10 proving wins.

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  • SPX
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    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
    Stann can't beat anyone that decides to go for a takedown.
    Massenzio, Wallace

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  • MMA_scientist
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    I don't think he has any chance against Jones. If Jones comes to wrestle, I don't think Sonnen will survive 1 round. If he comes to strike, he will probably make it rd 2. I think Vitor would beat Sonnen, but it is much more likely that Sonnen could do his hold him down routine there. It has never worked on Vitor very well before though.

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  • edman5555
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    Sonnen has a shot against Jones. A small one. I think he can beat Vitor.

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  • MMA_scientist
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    Jones/Sonnen will do huge numbers IMO. Sonnen will lose to Jones. Then Vitor will beat him too. That will probably be the end of the Sonnen gravy train. I am actually considering watching TUF this season.

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  • poopoo333
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    I think the UFC is going to profit well from Jones/Sonnen because of: 1. Jones being a dominant champ, 2. Sonnen's mouth and ability to sell fights. Gus/Jones won't be a great PPV draw imo compared to Sonnen/Jones. I think they should do this:

    Jones vs Sonnen

    ..when Sonnen loses:

    Sonnen vs Belfort


    edit: what you said makes more sense with logic/what should happen, but obviously Sonnen/Jones with TUF was set up for the money/ratings.

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  • Luke
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    I really think Belfort is more suited for 205 . I've always had a theory that his cut to 185 is a tough one and thats why he gasses in most of his fights. Anyway, I think Chael would fight anyone and would also beat Belfort easily. I think having Chael "get hurt" and putting Gus in his place then setting up Chael-Belfort would be a lot more profitable for the UFC and would make for two better fights.

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  • Luke
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    Originally posted by Thewisemann
    And if Rashad beats Nog, give him the title shot.

    if

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  • MMA_scientist
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    Originally posted by poopoo333
    Naw I don't think so. You know, even if Stann doesn't get the KO, I think he comfortably picks Wandy apart.
    Wand is coming with usual plan of windmilling hooks until someone falls over. The thing about that plan is that is sometimes works pretty damn well. Stann hasn't been dropped by a shot yet though that I can recall, and Wand is on his last leg... so I have to agree that Stann should win.

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  • poopoo333
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    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
    Has he ever done this before? I don't recall him coming to grapple, but I haven't been paying attention very much. I also don't think he could get Stann down. I think we will see him do the standard gameplan.
    Naw I don't think so. You know, even if Stann doesn't get the KO, I think he comfortably picks Wandy apart.

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  • MMA_scientist
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    Originally posted by poopoo333
    Do you guys think Wandy might come to wrestle Stann? I think in a 5 round fight, Stann's superior athleticism/conditioning will prevail and he will KTFO Wandy :(
    Has he ever done this before? I don't recall him coming to grapple, but I haven't been paying attention very much. I also don't think he could get Stann down. I think we will see him do the standard gameplan.

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