UFC on FX 7 Vitor Belfort vs Michael Bisping

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  • poopoo333
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    What are your guys thoughts on Gonzaga vs Rothwell? Pretty tough fight to call imo

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  • edman5555
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    Originally posted by poopoo333
    edman, I watched Nunes vs Florian last night and it made me like Lentz even more in this fight. Nunes has a poor gas tank and was taken down and controlled by Florian for a good portion of their fight. I can see Nunes stuffing Lentz in round 1 and taking it, but if Lentz brings the pressure in round 1 and forces Nunes to grapple a little bit, I believe Lentz will be a bit more successful in the 2nd part of the fight.
    A poor gas tank could definetly hurt him against Lentz. Lentz is tough as nails as well. He can keep it close quarters where he excels by using his wrestling. The thing about Nunes is he seems to have good footwork IIRC. That is the only thing that makes me worry about him VS Lentz. If Lentz cant keep it in close he could be in a little bit of trouble. I think whichever way it goes it will be really close. I would be suprised to see either guy win 3 rounds. Lentz could be a decent dog bet though. He should be much improved over his 155 performances given the decrease in his opponents size. Another thing to keep in mind about florian is his striking is pretty good. He uses that to get inside. He held Aldo against the cage for a round in their fight as well.

    Id think it would be worthwhile to look at some of his recent fights to see how his cardio is. If he gassed in the Florian fight it could be something he looked to improve on. That said, Lentz is a grinder that can obviously push him. I can't really decide on this one, I guess it will depend on the line. I bet it goes the distance.

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  • poopoo333
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    Michael Bisping vs Vitor Belfort - 5 rounds - UFC on FX 7 propositions
    Sat 1/19 1003 Bisping/Belfort goes 5 round distance +170
    11:30PM 1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance -230
    Sat 1/19 1005 Bisping wins inside distance +229
    11:30PM 1006 Not Bisping inside distance -309
    Sat 1/19 1007 Bisping wins by 5 round decision +340
    11:30PM 1008 Not Bisping by 5 round decision -510
    Sat 1/19 1009 Belfort wins inside distance +133
    11:30PM 1010 Not Belfort inside distance -173
    Sat 1/19 1011 Belfort wins by 5 round decision +470
    11:30PM 1012 Not Belfort by 5 round decision -810
    Sat 1/19 1013 Bisping/Belfort draw +7000
    11:30PM 1014 Fight not a draw -18500

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  • poopoo333
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    edman, I watched Nunes vs Florian last night and it made me like Lentz even more in this fight. Nunes has a poor gas tank and was taken down and controlled by Florian for a good portion of their fight. I can see Nunes stuffing Lentz in round 1 and taking it, but if Lentz brings the pressure in round 1 and forces Nunes to grapple a little bit, I believe Lentz will be a bit more successful in the 2nd part of the fight.

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  • poopoo333
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    Originally posted by edman5555
    I get it. He is a pushy wrestler coming down in weight that has done well so far at 145 that will probably be a dog.
    Pretty much this.

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  • edman5555
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    I get it. He is a pushy wrestler coming down in weight that has done well so far at 145 that will probably be a dog.

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  • edman5555
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    ok

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  • poopoo333
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    I am not "so confident" in him.

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  • edman5555
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    Originally posted by poopoo333
    I just have a feeling he will be a decent sized dog and I like betting top control wrestler guys (or guys who go for takedowns against the cage and stay there for 15 minutes) at + odds.
    why are you feeling so confident in Lentz? He leaned on Winner for the decison, almost literally. He had a very close fight with Tyson griffin, losing in a lot of peoples eyes. He lost the first two rounds to Waylon Lowe before choking him out. He got the crap kicked out of him by Oliviera. Then he lost to Bocek and Dunham. Granted he did ok in some of those fights and they are at 155 pounds but why do you feel like he beats Nunes? I feel like it could be close but I also think that Nunes style might be really hard for him. He has pretty good takedown defense, not amazing..but he moves around really well and has good striking. I could see Lentz having a lot of trouble tracking him down to make this fight an up close gritty contest. Those are the type of fights he wins. I think he loses rangy fights like Nunes would probably like to impose here.

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  • poopoo333
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    Originally posted by edman5555
    Poopoo, why lentz over nunes? i am really interested in this one.
    I just have a feeling he will be a decent sized dog and I like betting top control wrestler guys (or guys who go for takedowns against the cage and stay there for 15 minutes) at + odds.

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  • edman5555
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    Poopoo, why lentz over nunes? i am really interested in this one.

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  • edman5555
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    I think Yuri Alcantra should be able to beat George Roop too.

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  • edman5555
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    Originally posted by poopoo333
    I really hope they add one more fight for the co main event.

    Line guesses on Bisping/Belfort? I think it will be around even, but I wouldn't mind see Bisping come out around +150. Most likely that will not happen, as Belcher was +165 against Belfort when that fight was scheduled.

    Gonzaga/Rothwell is pretty interesting.

    Markes/Craig is going to be a good one...I will probably keep riding the Markes wagon.

    I am going to be betting Lentz over Nunes at + numbers (Why is this not on the main card?)

    Salas has potential for the upset over Barboza.
    I think Craig has been very lucky so far. He nailed Natal with that head kick after losing the first round and Kyle Noke was injured for their fight. I think Markes will run right through him.

    Betting Lentz over Nunes? I don't get that at all. Can you explain? Lentz likes to get inside and box/wrestle IMO. Nunes has good takedown defense and good movement. How do you see Lentz beating him. Do you expect nunes to gas or something?

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  • edman5555
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    Well he came in heavily muscled. If he tried to fight every takedown he would probably lose just because Jones is a way better wrestler. That would eventually cause him to gas out horribbly. I bet he probably figured he had a good shot at submitting Jones off his back.

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  • Svino
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    Vitor took an interesting gameplan with Jones. Basically, every time Jones got close to a TD, Vitor pulled guard.

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