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[Luke]

But most of his wins are by submission, while Johnsons has lost all but one time by submission.

Yeah..........I don't see what that has to do with laying -225 on someone who is inconsistent.

[AC88]

I feel Roop has great value at that line.

[SPX]

Why? Break it down. . .

[MMA_scientist]

Roller has lost to some great fighters, I don't really think he is inconsistent. His only "bad" loss is Grant IMO, and that is unfortunately is his most recent fight. But Johnson is jst flat out not as good as the guy he has been fighting IMO, and just doesn't have the tools to win barring something crazy like MJ landing his first power punch of his career.

[SPX]

His only "bad" loss is Grant IMO, and that is unfortunately is his most recent fight.

Wasn't that stoppage controversial anyway?

[Ludo]

Besides, consistency does not matter.

[MMA_scientist]

Controversial is not the right word, it was a bad stoppage. Roller did not tap, and he was not injured. But still, Grant won the first two rounds... Roller was going to lose a decision anyway. His wrestling is not that good for an AA wrestler, but he scrambles pretty well/ He couldn't get Grant down, and got taken down several times. MJ may be able to get some takedowns, but Grant usually finds a way to scramble to a better spot, I just think he has too many submissions for MJ, who gets subbed by everyone. Like I said, it feels like a bit of a reach as I really don't know how the fight is going to play out, but I just feel that Roller has the advantage standing, wrestling, on top or bottom. I think he can even win from his back if he doesn't go for the guillotine on every shot like he has a propensity of doing.

[edman5555]

I am starting to get cold feet on Dunham. I still feel confident in chael though. Lentz is pretty good and I could see Dunham having trouble with him. I still favor Dunham but I don't know that his reach is going to play a big enough factor and that is what I was betting on. I am thinking that Lentz can close the distance because he has a good chin and Dunham is not known for knocking people put. I wouldn't be shocked to see Dunham pull a sub out of us ass though.

[Luke]

Anyone see what Vandelay weighed in at ?

[edman5555]

He missed weight by seven pounds. Oh no wait that was Antonio McKee.....maybe vandaley is Antonio McKee.....

[SPX]

I am starting to get cold feet on Dunham. I still feel confident in chael though. Lentz is pretty good and I could see Dunham having trouble with him. I still favor Dunham but I don't know that his reach is going to play a big enough factor and that is what I was betting on. I am thinking that Lentz can close the distance because he has a good chin and Dunham is not known for knocking people put. I wouldn't be shocked to see Dunham pull a sub out of us ass though.

I really wouldn't worry about it. Dunham should win.

[Vandelay]

I like Johnson. Especially at the line, Roller has bad standup and mediocre takedowns. His grappling is good on the ground, but johnsons got good tdd to stay off his back and isnt a fish out of water down there. He was doing well against brookins, sass and faaloto.

[mike]

I like Johnson. Especially at the line, Roller has bad standup and mediocre takedowns. His grappling is good on the ground, but johnsons got good tdd to stay off his back and isnt a fish out of water down there. He was doing well against brookins, sass and faaloto.

i feel the same way. how is johnson's cardio though? if he cant finish Roller, he might gas and get choked out.

[SPX]

Fuck you Evan Dunham's line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mike]

Fuck you Evan Dunham's line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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