Based on what? What if he has no takedown defense? What if his ground is terrible, which it probably is.
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Well we know he at least has SOME takedown defense because that ass clown Stitgen attempted to take him down and was unsuccessful. Granted, they weren't very good takedown attempts, but you can only fought who's put in front of you.
His brother-in-law is Carlos Machado, who he is studying under, so I have to believe that his ground game will be better than terrible.
Brown goes down.
Every single one of Brown's last 4 losses have come by submission too, so I'm not sure why you think he's the guy to give Thompson big problems on the ground.I heart cockComment
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Brown is not a very good grappler IMO, but my guess is that Thompson is worse. The fact that Carlos Machado is his in law, and he still doesn't hold a bjj rank, but rather touts his japanese jj rank of bb-- makes me believe he is probably pretty damn lame on the ground. But he is long and flexible, so he probably has a decent guard.2012: +19.33
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According to what I've read, his rank is in Tetsushin Ryu Jujutsu, which is not traditional Japanese JJ. One summary that I've read:
"Our Jiu-Jitsu art is a combination of Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and emphasizes defending against opponents with the use of leverage, off-balancing, redirection, joint manipulating techniques, and submission holds to render an opponent harmless. Jiu-Jitsu teaches self defense orientated techniques and focuses on ground grappling. Jiu-Jitsu also combines effective leg kicks, striking, with throws, and takedowns. Jiu-Jitsu is 20% long range skills, 30% short range skills and 50% ground grappling skills."
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According to what I've read, his rank is in Tetsushin Ryu Jujutsu, which is not traditional Japanese JJ. One summary that I've read:
"Our Jiu-Jitsu art is a combination of Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and emphasizes defending against opponents with the use of leverage, off-balancing, redirection, joint manipulating techniques, and submission holds to render an opponent harmless. Jiu-Jitsu teaches self defense orientated techniques and focuses on ground grappling. Jiu-Jitsu also combines effective leg kicks, striking, with throws, and takedowns. Jiu-Jitsu is 20% long range skills, 30% short range skills and 50% ground grappling skills."
skills and 50% ground
yeah... so its crap.2012: +19.33
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Well let's look at those four submission losses. Almeida, nothing else needs to be said there. Lytle is an extremely well rounded fighter who always had a very good ground game, in fact he has about seven times as many submission wins as knockout wins. Foster is kind of iffy, but he's well rounded, and Baczuchinni is a bit of a choke specialist, which isn't surprising since he's a wrestler.
Brown isn't a great grappler, but he is a great grinder. We don't know if Thompson has any kind of grappling cardio, and Brown will keep going after those takedowns and make anyone work on the ground.
Japanese Jujutsu is shit. Shields is a Cesar Gracie student who has the same kind of high level wrestling fusion going on that Matt Hughes had.2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
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lol, those are bjj. They aren't specific arts, that's just guys that gained their skill under a legit BJJ bb and they are trying to market themselves by calling their specific style something different... if every style was a different art, pretty much every practitioner would be practicing his own art. A better example would be something like GaidoJitsu, in that I don't think Greg Jackson really ever held rank in BJJ. So maybe that is a completely different branch of legit jj. I think Rick Story trains under a JJJ place too.
I didn't say all of them are crap, but pretty much any non BJJ art that claims to be jiu jitsu, jujutsu, jujitsu is crap. There are few semi-legit places in the whole USA, but even at the very best JJJ grappling school in the whole world, you are probably not going to find a higher level grappling than at your neighborhood BJJ place. The fact that he is related to Carlos Machado, and he still hasn't trained in bjj... context clues lead me to believe his grappling is going to be pretty weak. Maybe enough to survive Brown, but nothing that is going to allow him to thrive in the division. That's my guess.2012: +19.33
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Two things. . .lol, those are bjj. They aren't specific arts, that's just guys that gained their skill under a legit BJJ bb and they are trying to market themselves by calling their specific style something different... if every style was a different art, pretty much every practitioner would be practicing his own art. A better example would be something like GaidoJitsu, in that I don't think Greg Jackson really ever held rank in BJJ. So maybe that is a completely different branch of legit jj. I think Rick Story trains under a JJJ place too.
I didn't say all of them are crap, but pretty much any non BJJ art that claims to be jiu jitsu, jujutsu, jujitsu is crap. There are few semi-legit places in the whole USA, but even at the very best JJJ grappling school in the whole world, you are probably not going to find a higher level grappling than at your neighborhood BJJ place. The fact that he is related to Carlos Machado, and he still hasn't trained in bjj... context clues lead me to believe his grappling is going to be pretty weak. Maybe enough to survive Brown, but nothing that is going to allow him to thrive in the division. That's my guess.
1. According to what I posted, the shit he holds rank in is "50% BJJ." Maybe it's useless, but neither you nor I know that. What I don't like is someone jumping to conclusions about a martial art that they haven't even taken the time to really investigate. It's arrogant and it reminds me of the many years that karate, TKD etc were "crap" and now, magically, they're not anymore.
2. From what I've read, Thompson IS actively training with Carlos Machado on a regular basis.I heart cockComment
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Well let's look at those four submission losses. Almeida, nothing else needs to be said there. Lytle is an extremely well rounded fighter who always had a very good ground game, in fact he has about seven times as many submission wins as knockout wins. Foster is kind of iffy, but he's well rounded, and Baczuchinni is a bit of a choke specialist, which isn't surprising since he's a wrestler.
Brown isn't a great grappler, but he is a great grinder. We don't know if Thompson has any kind of grappling cardio, and Brown will keep going after those takedowns and make anyone work on the ground.
Japanese Jujutsu is shit. Shields is a Cesar Gracie student who has the same kind of high level wrestling fusion going on that Matt Hughes had.
I guess we'll see what happens tomorrow.I heart cockComment

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