2012 Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

[MMA_scientist]

I'd say there are worse lives than being a junkie in the gutter. At least you have no responsibilities and your drugs to keep you happy.

There are definitely worse fates... but i am having trouble thinking of a more disappointing outcome for a patent. Maybe if they are gay.

[SPX]

You would legitimately be distraught if one of your children were gay?

[MMA_scientist]

Or perhaps it can be tied into the insights of the quantum physicists who claim that the universe is essentially a holographic illusion and that we can shape reality with our consciousness. Is the realm of the afterlife a more malleable and non-physical realm where our consciousness has a far greater capacity for creation with thought alone?

Who knows. At this point it's a great mystery. But what I do know is that the subject is far deeper, richer and more complex than those people who just watch a documentary or read an article and proclaim all the experiences nothing more than the product of an overactive imagination claim it to be.

I actually spent some time reading about this stuff today. I read that a pretty large group of people actually awoke with the real feeling that they had never actually existed at all. Weird, i might read up on some.

As for the verifiable details of nde's, i would be more inclined to believe that the doctors who report it are full of shit. But i don't rule it out. For me, there is no real explanation... it is like any other instinct i guess. In the same way a woman wants to reproduce, i just feel that i exist in more than skin and bones. I dont pretend it is intellectual, in fact i realize how ridiculous it is. But on the flip side, i am honestly fine with afterlife.

[MMA_scientist]

You would legitimately be distraught if one of your children were gay?

It was a joke. But yeah, i would be in a lot of pain. I would accept it and be supportive, but i would feel like it was my fault and it be pretty hard for me.

[SPX]

I actually spent some time reading about this stuff today. I read that a pretty large group of people actually awoke with the real feeling that they had never actually existed at all. Weird, i might read up on some.

I'm not sure exactly what that means. But one thing I do know is that a lot of people come back feeling like the experience they had was more real reality, or "realer than real" as some have described it.

Many come back feeling like THAT is real world and this shit we're involved in right now is the illusion.

You may have found this already, but this is an excellent resource:

http://www.near-death.com/

As for the verifiable details of nde's, i would be more inclined to believe that the doctors who report it are full of shit. But i don't rule it out.

At this point it's not that hard to get actual experiencer accounts straight from the people who had them. My dad even had an experience where he floated above his body. It happens. In fact, it seems to happen so often that it's really no big deal.

As for lying doctors who write books, here are a couple of suggestions:

http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Afterlife-Science-Near-Death-Experiences/dp/0061452572/ref=pd_sim_b_1

and

http://www.amazon.com/Consciousness-Beyond-Life-Near-Death-Experience/dp/0061777269/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341902809&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=pim+von+lommell

[SPX]

It was a joke. But yeah, i would be in a lot of pain. I would accept it and be supportive, but i would feel like it was my fault and it be pretty hard for me.

I don't know why you'd really care what your son does with his dick.

[MMA_scientist]

I don't know why you'd really care what your son does with his dick.

I don't like them gays.

[MMA_scientist]

I'm not sure exactly what that means. But one thing I do know is that a lot of people come back feeling like the experience they had was more real reality, or "realer than real" as some have described it.

Many come back feeling like THAT is real world and this shit we're involved in right now is the illusion.

You may have found this already, but this is an excellent resource:

http://www.near-death.com/

At this point it's not that hard to get actual experiencer accounts straight from the people who had them. My dad even had an experience where he floated above his body. It happens. In fact, it seems to happen so often that it's really no big deal.

As for lying doctors who write books, here are a couple of suggestions:

http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Afterlife-Science-Near-Death-Experiences/dp/0061452572/ref=pd_sim_b_1

and

http://www.amazon.com/Consciousness-...im+von+lommell

The reviews I am reading on these books are that they are anecdotal crap. Were you giving me these books as examples of lying doctors? Or refutations? I am never going to be convinced by what someone in a state of total trauma says they experienced. If they ever did an actual study that was verified and controlled, I would be intrigued. But a couple of isolated incidents (like the shoe on the ledge story), I write off as the person saw it before or it is a lie/hoax. I recall you saying they were going to do thing where they place objects high up in trauma rooms, but I still haven't seen anything about that.

Basically, I don't trust what people say at all. People tell me crazy shit constantly, and they may even believe it. People are liars.

[poopoo333]

I might be checking out this gym around here tonight after work to train at. My schedule may allow me to train 2 or 3x a week in the fall semester due to less nights at restaurant because of school. I think tonight is bjj/mma

[MMA_scientist]

I might be checking out this gym around here tonight after work to train at. My schedule may allow me to train 2 or 3x a week in the fall semester due to less nights at restaurant because of school. I think tonight is bjj/mma

Wear your power suit to intimidate.

[poopoo333]

Wear your power suit to intimidate.

I am so excited to train UFC!!!!!!!!!!!! Gotta pick up an affliction shirt for tonight.

[MMA_scientist]

I am so excited to train UFC!!!!!!!!!!!! Gotta pick up an affliction shirt for tonight.

don't forget to wear your UFC gloves bro. That will show them that you know what's up.

There was a guy that used to come it wearing actual UFC gloves. It was awesome, and he was insane. When we were a more MMA oriented gym, we got a lot more crazies. Muy Thai probably has more crazies per capita than any other art. We still get the odd UFC bro who wants to come to the advanced class because he trained in his garage, but it is rare that they actually show up more than once.

In related news, I am teaching morning classes at my gym now. I have been teaching wrestling at the gym for a couple years, but this is my first time teaching bjj. I don't really want to do it, so I am hoping it is just temporary.

[poopoo333]

the only pair of ufc gloves I have are signed by pat barry...won them from that tko fantasy pool spx showed us.

And I am hoping it is a good gym. They have some guys that actually fight and they are affiliated with jungle mma in orlando, which is seth petruzellis gym I think. Some guy mike lee instructs there I think and tom lawlor used to be there as well

[MMA_scientist]

the only pair of ufc gloves I have are signed by pat barry...won them from that tko fantasy pool spx showed us.

And I am hoping it is a good gym. They have some guys that actually fight and they are affiliated with jungle mma in orlando, which is seth petruzellis gym I think. Some guy mike lee instructs there I think and tom lawlor used to be there as well

Just because guys fight, doesn't mean it is a good gym (unless the fighters are good). Some of the shittiest gyms will just send guys out there...

I looked up Mike Lee, and he seems like a legit local level pro. I am sure he will have some stuff to teach you about MMA. He has been in there with Nate Marquart. But my experience with "MMA gyms" hasn't generally been positive. There are definitely two kinds... the kind where they have guys that are good specialists teaching those disciplines, and the kind where they have local fighter teaching everything. The latter is usually pretty shitty IME. It looks like Mike Lee is a legit BJJ bb, as well as being a decent MMA fighter though, so that would be a pretty good place to learn some grappling most likely. Let me know how it goes.

[poopoo333]

Well mike lee only goes there for seminars, he is out of orlando. Im not sure who the coaches are here yet...but idk..I know its the best one around here because it isn't jjj or tkd dojos with "mma".