UFC on Fox 3, May 5th

[MMA_scientist]

I mean, who is a more worth title challenger?

[poopoo333]

I mean, who is a more worth title challenger?

Che Mills.

[MMA_scientist]

Che Mills.

I was going to say-- aside from Che Mills, obviously. Maaaybe you could say, Keith Wisniewski. BUt other than that, it is between Papi Abedi and FC (future champ).

[poopoo333]

Speaking of the WW title picture, do you guys think the injury/layoff will negatively effect GSP when he comes back?

[MMA_scientist]

GSP is done.

[SPX]

Which rounds did you give Koscheck?

1 and 3, easily.

[MMA_scientist]

1 and 3, easily.

I scored it the same way, but 3 could have gone either way IMO. Kos got a takedown, which he did nothing with. Prior to that, he was getting beat up in that round pretty soundly. I scored it for Kos based on what judges normally do... but in reality, he didn't do shit in that round other than score a takedown and stay there causing no damage and not advancing his position. He never passed guard, he never landed a significant strike. I guess it depends on how much weight you put on "control." To me, it means more if you achieve a dominant position. That said, I expected Kos to get the nod, but wasn't shocked at all at the decision. In round 1, he did poke the shit out of the Hendricks' eye. So if we are going to start looking at "what should have happened" with the decision, I think the UFC would be just as justified in looking at the first round eye poke, which was obvious, and clearly affected FC.

[Ludo]

1 and 3, easily.

He got outstruck nearly two to one in the first round, and while he did get the takedown in round three he was able to do fuck all with it. The third round is really the only round Koscheck has a case for.

[SPX]

I mean, who is a more worth title challenger?

Ellenberger seems like the obvious choice to me. I think it's worth it to wait for the winner of him and Kampmann.

[MMA_scientist]

Ellenberger seems like the obvious choice to me. I think it's worth it to wait for the winner of him and Kampmann.

Yeah, Ellenberger is the only guy. Of course, Condit did already beat him. Hendricks has more fights and wins in the UFC, and he hasn't fought Condit yet. I wouldn't say Ellenberger has done more than Hendricks, but it is definitely debatable (Kos and Fitch vs. Shields and Sanchez)... Ellenberger has won more consecutively, but has fewer overall wins.

[SPX]

. . . first round eye poke, which was obvious, and clearly affected FC.

It was obvious to me that something affected Hendricks's eye, but it wasn't obvious what it was. Could've been a jab.

[MMA_scientist]

It was obvious to me that something affected Hendricks's eye, but it wasn't obvious what it was. Could've been a jab.

Have you seen the whole Koscheck eye poke breakdown with Gifs on BE? I am not saying the ref should have stopped it, but in hindsight...

[SPX]

He got outstruck nearly two to one in the first round, and while he did get the takedown in round three he was able to do fuck all with it. The third round is really the only round Koscheck has a case for.

It was only 14 to 18 for significant strikes in the first round and Kos was controlling most of the action, backing Hendricks up most of the time.

As for the takedown in the third, it's disingenuous to say he didn't do anything with it. He spent most of that time trying to cave Hendrick's ribs in with punches.

[SPX]

Have you seen the whole Koscheck eye poke breakdown with Gifs on BE? I am not saying the ref should have stopped it, but in hindsight...

I haven't seen them. Post it.

[Luke]

It was only 14 to 18 for significant strikes in the first round and Kos was controlling most of the action, backing Hendricks up most of the time.
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Maybe only 18 to 14 in significant strikes but it was 25 to 14 in total strikes which is almost 2-to-1.Hendricks also landed the only TD of the round.