UFC 148 Sonnen vs Silva II

[MMA_scientist]

Kim will probably win. Has anyone taken Kim down yet? Maia only takes fights that are the worst possible matchups for him.

[SPX]

I think it's going to be real close. Both guys are good grapplers with decent striking skills. Not sure who wins it. But I do know that Maia has looked like shit lately.

[MMA_scientist]

He has completely abandoned his base, but also, he has been fighting really tough guys. Weidman and Munoz are not scrubs, I felt he won the Munoz fight and he took Weidman on short notice.

[edman5555]

he was out of shape for the weidman fight, or sick

[MMA_scientist]

Maia has never had a good gas tank, he pretty much always gasses in rd 3. He really didn't fight smart in the Weidman fight, and he was focused on using his jj to escape rather than sweep/submit. He has gone to pretty much an all underhook half guard bottom game, which is really a wrestler's guard. It is basically a single leg attack position or a position to help you stand without exposing your back. I don't know why he has gone away from his triangle game. It is frustrating, I think he is too concerned with losing a decision. In the old days he just threw caution to the wind and went for the finish. I am sure the quality of his opponents has not helped, but I think he should go back to his triangle based guard game, and then if he feels stuck, he can switch the underhook half game.

[poopoo333]

^^ Why is that a fight?

Well not it's Ivan Menjivar vs Renan Barao, Hougland got injured

[poopoo333]

Apparently Bisping/Boetsch opened @-300/+240 on a UK book

[Luke]

Apparently Bisping/Boetsch opened @-300/+240 on a UK book

Seen that. Skybet has Bisping at -275 which I think is a but high

https://www.skybet.com/mma_ufc/upcoming-fights/event/13844181?action=GoRBSBetslip&AFF_ID=59&bsnls=1&bsopen=1

[edman5555]

i favor bisping but boetsche clearly has some power. He can also wrestle. Betting Beotsche is betting he cant land a big punch or wrestle a dec. Him wrestling a decision seems unlikely after seeing how Bisping did with Chael but you never know. No bet for me. If I had to bet, Bisping.

[poopoo333]

I THINK this is supposed to be on the card too:

[SPX]

Anyone think Le is a good dog play at +265?

I'd actually be tempted to play Bisping at those odds. He almost never gets knocked out and should be much better technically than Boetsch. Then again . . . Okami was all that shit, too.

Forrest should win, but I'm not taking him at -295.

[Ludo]

Anyone think Le is a good dog play at +265?

I'd actually be tempted to play Bisping at those odds. He almost never gets knocked out and should be much better technically than Boetsch. Then again . . . Okami was all that shit, too.

Forrest should win, but I'm not taking him at -295.

Boetsch gets 30-27'd here, just like he was going to last time around before Yushin's brain shut off between the second and third rounds. I would stay far away from Le here. He's never fought anyone as well rounded as Franklin, and he's never beat anyone who was as scrappy as Franklin who wasn't over the hill. I'm not convinced Forest wants to be a professional fighter anymore. He was talking about how his whole life has changed before the Shogun fight that he got blown out in under 3 minutes in. Even against Tito I don't know if Forest who doesn't care about fighting can pull it out, and certainly not for that price.

[SPX]

I would stay far away from Le here. He's never fought anyone as well rounded as Franklin, and he's never beat anyone who was as scrappy as Franklin who wasn't over the hill.

I figure Franklin will win, but if you look at Franklin's past several fights, he really hasn't been doing great. He fought a really close fight with Wandy, got killed by Belfort, was getting beat by Liddell before the KO, and got dominated by Griffin. If Cung's cardio is under control, I could see him taking it.

I'm not convinced Forest wants to be a professional fighter anymore. He was talking about how his whole life has changed before the Shogun fight that he got blown out in under 3 minutes in. Even against Tito I don't know if Forest who doesn't care about fighting can pull it out, and certainly not for that price.

Whole life had changed how, I wonder?

And yes, Forrest got blown out by Shogun, but right before that he beat Franklin easily. And before that he beat Tito via what should've been a clear UD.

[poopoo333]

Anyone think Le is a good dog play at +265?

I do. Franklin has been injured on and off since February 2011, and is making 185 for the first time since 2008.

[MMA_scientist]

Franklin rarely tries to take the fight down. I like Cung at those odds too. Franklin is pretty much done fighting IMO.

Bisping is going to win, he beat Sonnen in a lot of people's eyes, I don't see what Boetch is going to do to him. Bisping gets dropped kind of a lot for a guy that is supposed to be a kickboxer, but at 3:1, I think that the odds are on Bisping's side.