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  • poopoo333
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    • Jan 2010
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    TUF Finale June 1st

    Martin Kampmann vs Jake Ellenberger, 5 rounder
  • SPX
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 23875

    #2
    That should be a good fight. Ellenberger probably wins, but Kamp knows how to find ways to win.
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    • zY|
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 8385

      #3
      He knows how to find ways to lose too.
      Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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      • Ludo
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 4931

        #4
        Kampmann wouldn't have found a way last time out if Alves didn't have the fight IQ of a drunken homeless man. Alves was winning that fight pretty soundly with only 50 seconds to go and had Kampmann on the ropes.
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        • poopoo333
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          • Jan 2010
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          #5
          In a 3 round fight I would give the edge to Ellenberger. In a 5 round fight...Kampmann.

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          • Ludo
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            • Jan 2010
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            #6
            Assuming it goes the distance, yes Kampmann has the advantage. But who's to say Ellenberger doesn't just beat him into a living death within the first couple of minutes?
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            • SPX
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              • Aug 2009
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              #7
              Originally posted by Ludo
              But who's to say Ellenberger doesn't just beat him into a living death within the first couple of minutes?
              It could happen, but how many times has Kampmann actually been stopped?
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              • Ludo
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 4931

                #8
                60% of his losses were by knockout. He has terrible striking defense once he gets hurt. He backs up with no angles and keeps his chin up high. Ellenberger hits every bit as hard as Nate Marquardt and Paul Daley do.
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                • SPX
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                  • Aug 2009
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                  #9
                  Saying "60% of his losses were by knockout" is kind of disingenous, though. First, one of those was a doctor stoppage. Should that even count? Only 2 of his 4 UFC losses were by knockout--technical knockout, at least. So discounting the doctor stoppage he has been knocked out two times in 24 fights, 14 of which were in the UFC.
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                  • Ludo
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                    • Jan 2010
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                    #10
                    He was also on the ropes against Alves and the ref likely would have stepped in if Alves had just kept on throwing strikes. He got rocked and wobbled by Diego Sanchez, he just does not react well to being hit hard which is exactly what Ellenberger is going to do to him.
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                    • SPX
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      #11
                      I agree that his defense sucks. But I disagree that the Alves fight was close to being stopped, and I also think that if anything, the fact that he has taken so many shots but has so few (T)KO losses tells me that his chin is actually pretty good.
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                      • poopoo333
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                        • Jan 2010
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                        #12

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                        • SPX
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 23875

                          #13
                          No bet at that line.
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                          • Mr. IWS
                            215 Hustler
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 98671

                            #14
                            All in on Jake via split decision
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                            • poopoo333
                              MMA *********
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 18302

                              #15
                              • Jake Ellenberger vs. Martin Kampmann
                              • "TUF" finalist No. 1 vs. finalist No. 2
                              • Jonathan Brookins vs. Charles Oliveira
                              • Max Holloway vs. Pat Schilling
                              • John Albert vs. Byron Bloodworth

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