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  • Vandelay
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1934

    #1

    Bellator 64

    Main Card
    Welterweight Championship: Ben Askren (c) vs. Douglas Lima

    Season Six Tournaments
    Featherweight Tournament Semifinal: Alexandre Bezerra vs. Marlon Sandro

    Bantamweight Tournament Opening Round: Travis Marx vs. Masakatsu Ueda

    Bantamweight Tournament Opening Round: Rodrigo Lima vs. Hiroshi Nakamura
  • Vandelay
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1934

    #2
    Any guesses on the Askren/Lima and Sandro/Bezerra lines?

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    • poopoo333
      MMA *********
      • Jan 2010
      • 18302

      #3
      Askren -325/Lima +275

      Sandro -180 Bezerra +140

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      • MMA_scientist
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 9857

        #4
        Originally posted by poopoo333
        Askren -325/Lima +275

        Sandro -180 Bezerra +140
        I don't think Askren will be -325. If he is, I will be on Lima. Lima is dangerous, but he does get taken pretty easily.
        2012: +19.33
        2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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        • poopoo333
          MMA *********
          • Jan 2010
          • 18302

          #5
          I like Askren in the fight, I hope he isn't -325. Douglas Lima's only chance imo is to get a sub from the bottom. Jesse Juarez took Lima down easy and held him there each round and was on his way to winning a decision until Lima pulled an armbar off in the 3rd

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          • MMA_scientist
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 9857

            #6
            Yeah, Lima's takedown defense is not good. He has some subs, but he is not a world calibur grappler-- I actually think he is just a purple belt. Askren should dominate on the ground. My concern is that Askren can't finish for shit, and Lima is a finisher standing and on the ground. So Lima has 25 minutes to pull something out.
            2012: +19.33
            2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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            • poopoo333
              MMA *********
              • Jan 2010
              • 18302

              #7

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              • BIGDAY
                Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 66

                #8
                Frikken A!! Was hoping for Askren around -250. Some value on Lima for sure, yet I still see Askren using all those leg kicks the Lima throws to Askren's takedown advantage. Askren should have no problem controling Lima on the ground.

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                • MMA_scientist
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 9857

                  #9
                  yeah, he is going to take him down no problem, but I would not bet Askren at that line. Lima has some power standing and is very athletic. Askren can't finish, so Lima will get at least 5 chances standing.
                  2012: +19.33
                  2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                  • poopoo333
                    MMA *********
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 18302

                    #10
                    Askren is almost bettable for me. Would like to see some props come out, wouldn't mind hedging with Lima ITD if the price is right

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                    • MMA_scientist
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 9857

                      #11
                      Yeah, at -250, that is getting close to bettable. My issue was with the -375 or whatever it was when it opened.
                      2012: +19.33
                      2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                      • Vandelay
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1934

                        #12
                        Well I lowered the line for you pp, but it is shooting back up at the moment. Not sure I want to put any more on lima. 250 is a solid bet, maybe ill put another 50 on it but that shouldnt move the line.

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                        • poopoo333
                          MMA *********
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 18302

                          #13
                          $250 moved a line on fight day???

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                          • MMA_scientist
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 9857

                            #14
                            no way, just a coincidence I think.

                            Money coming in on Lima because the line was off (IMO).
                            2012: +19.33
                            2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                            • Vandelay
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1934

                              #15
                              of course it did. Anytime the max limit is bet, it will move the line. The line is still soft seeing that there is a huge discrepency between the plus/minus odds.

                              Plus, its not like bellator is just as big as UFC. The bets are not nearly as high volume on Bellator cards

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