UFC 161

[Svino]

I like Shields at dog odds quite a bit. I bet Akiyama over him because I thought great TDD would beat Shields, only to have Shields win solidly on the feet. It could happen here, too. His striking has been getting a lot better. Woodley is no Ellenberger.

[edman5555]

I didnt see Shields vs Akiyama but the play by plays gave it to Akiyama 29-28 if memory serves me correctly. Shields won it 30-27. I guess I should probably watch that. Either way I think Woodley is overrated. He usually gasses at the end of the fight and tries to wall and stall. He is almost kind of like shields ironically. He probably is more explosive standing but I think Shields has that extra added edge when it comes to submissions. I don't know if he can make the work here. Either way he isnt a bad bet at plus odds.

I just watched Jimmo versus Sokodjou. It was in a ring which is smaller and probably helped sokodjou with the wrestling. It was probably the most boring fight I have ever seen. Jimmo seems to have turned it up since coming into the ufc. I remember him mentioning something about trying to bring it a little harder in the ufc. In mfc he was just a karate counterstriker. Kinda like Machida back in the day. Thats what makes me want to beleive Jimmo is going to bust out with some awesomeness at some point. He is just like Machida in that he comes from a high level karate background but he is missing the Black belt in bjj that machida has.

Again, Jimmo claims an injury during his camp stopped him from being able to train and caused him to gas against Te huna. I think I will end up betting Jimmo, hopefully i can get a decent line on him. Igors brawler style in dangerous but Jimmo is not the type of guy to get involved in a brawl. He is a karate based counterstriker for the most part. That seems like a good style for fighting a brawler. I am hoping 5dimes will make the lines a little bit better by fight day like they usually do. If I can get jimmo close to -200 that would be awesome.

[edman5555]

I like Shields at dog odds quite a bit. I bet Akiyama over him because I thought great TDD would beat Shields, only to have Shields win solidly on the feet. It could happen here, too. His striking has been getting a lot better. Woodley is no Ellenberger.

Do you have an opinion on jimmo/pokrajac svino?

[poopoo333]

I like:

Shawn Jordan
Stipe Miocic for a small play at those odds
Kenny Robertson small
James Krause (fading Stout, he sucks)
Alexis Davis

[edman5555]

Pierson just made a statement about how he feels he is finally getting over the ufc jitters and coming into his own as a fighter. Feeling comfortable in the octagon and all that. I think Kenny obviously has a shot and dog odds are nice but I thought I'd let ya know. Pierson could look better than usual. He's a good greco wrestler as well. Kennys american college wrestling might be better though. I have no idea.

[edman5555]

Rashad looked really good at the weigh ins.

[SPX]

I'd really be curious to know if how a fighter looks at the weighs in has any correlation with their performance.

[edman5555]

Well of course it does. It means they have been training hard. It doesn't necessarily mean they will win though.

[edman5555]

Looking over Hendos record I have to say that him almost beating Machida after over a year off is pretty good.

[SPX]

What I'm saying is that I can't remember a lot of cases in the past where it's really had a significant correlation to the end result, except specifically in cases where a fighter misses weight.

[edman5555]

I get your point. I was just stating it can have an effect. In this case it could mean Rashad is taking this a little more seriously and we can expect a more enthusiastic performance than he put on for the lil nog fight.

[SPX]

I hope so. Even though I have money on Hendo.

Rashad doesn't want three losses in a row. I still just don't even know what happened in the Lil' Nog fight.

[edman5555]

To wiseman -

I just saw your 17 unit bet on Roy.

Why so confident?

[edman5555]

I am liking Hendo at plus 3.5 points -200.

Rashad isnt knocking him out or subbing him unless he gets really lucky. His best bet is to dive in for takedowns and hold Dan down. He might be able to do that. I could see him doing that. It kinda depends on Dan. I think if he actually tried to defend the takedown better he could do a good job.

Probably worth playing. What do you guys think?

[Thewisemann]

I think he knocks him out. Stipe was knocked out by Struve and rocked by fucking Defries. But, i hate that I bet THAT much. I was drunk after my cousins wedding when I bet the extra 11 units.