TUF Brazile 2 Finale June 8th (UFC on Fuel TV 10)

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  • SPX
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 23875

    #61
    From everything I've seen, Damm pretty much sucks. The only dude he's beat that I've heard of is Jorge Masvidal and I'm willing to bet Mas was up on points before getting caught with a punch. I dunno, I'm going to watch the fight now. You're willing to join me:



    But everyone else with a name--Azvedo, Mitsuoko, Melendez, Blanco, Wilcox and Carvalho--has beat him, although the fight with Carvalho was closer than I expected, so I'll give him that. And obviously Melendez is understandable, but Mitsuoko was the Japanese guy who just got beat by Gomi and had his shit pushed in by Lentz. Wilcox beat his fucking ass like he was Wilcox's bitch and talked out of turn in public.

    Hirota is an ex-DEEP and Sengoku champ, for what it's worth. And he at least took a round off of Yahya and, as you pointed out, beat Healy in a lot of people's eyes.
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    • edman5555
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 6628

      #62
      Healys wrestling is pretty solid as well so it makes me think Hirota might be able to keep it standing. Yahya straight up grapplefucked him until he gassed and almost got knocked out. That's the only thing that gives me concern. I'm not sure being a Brazilian wrestling champ really makes you a great wrestler.
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      • SPX
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 23875

        #63
        Watched the fight. I don't know if Damm looked better than I expected or if Masvidal just looked particularly lackluster. Also, early stoppage.

        What I do know is that Damm is 2-5 in his last 7 with his only two wins coming against dudes who don't have a Wikipedia page. I could see the Japanese fighter curse striking here, but at + odds I like Hirota enough for a small play. Gonna put enough on him to win a unit.
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        • SPX
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 23875

          #64
          I'm also considering taking Markes over Brunson. God Brunson looked like shit against Leben.
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          • edman5555
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 6628

            #65
            I watched parts of it. MAsvidal dropped him in the first round. Damm caught masvidal with a good punch and got the knockout at the end. I think the stoppage could have been premature but it was still a solid punch regardless. Tough call.
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            • SPX
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 23875

              #66
              It was a solid punch that knocked Mas down but it was far from a clean knockout. Mas still looked entirely conscious to me. No where in the rules does it say fights are stopped on a knockdown. The ref did a shitty job and that's backed up by Mas's immediate reaction of frustration.
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              • SPX
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 23875

                #67
                Fuck it. Took Markes. Brunson's thing is his wrestling and Markes beat wrestlers at their own game (Simpson, Vemola). And Brunson looked like total shit against Leben and also lost a split to Kendall Grove. I'll actually be pretty surprised if Markes loses this one.
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                • mike
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 541

                  #68
                  Not too sure if Hirota will have much advantage on the feet vs Damm. He has power but his techniques arent anything impressive imo. Damm is pretty active striking and quite durable. I think Hirota wont have any problem defending the TDs. If anything, he will be the one taking Damm down. I think it will be a close fight and with it being in Brazil.. the judges might favor Damm. On fair ground, I think Hirota will edge it.

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                  • poopoo333
                    MMA *********
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 18302

                    #69
                    Originally posted by SPX
                    Fuck it. Took Markes. Brunson's thing is his wrestling and Markes beat wrestlers at their own game (Simpson, Vemola). And Brunson looked like total shit against Leben and also lost a split to Kendall Grove. I'll actually be pretty surprised if Markes loses this one.
                    You lost this bet. Ronny Markes just got in a car accident before the weigh ins and the fight is off.

                    Brunson won via (T)KO (Car Accident).

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                    • trotterz
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 450

                      #70
                      Originally posted by poopoo333
                      You lost this bet. Ronny Markes just got in a car accident before the weigh ins and the fight is off.

                      Brunson won via (T)KO (Car Accident).
                      Damn, that's bad. I had 300$ on markes. I was REALLY confident in him

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                      • Luke
                        10 year vet
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 30060

                        #71
                        How is Werdum ITD -125 not a great bet?
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                        • SPX
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 23875

                          #72
                          Damn, that sucks about Markes. I thought the line was pretty well off.
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                          • Svino
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 3873

                            #73
                            Originally posted by SPX
                            Anyone else thinking Hirota should be favored over Damm?
                            I don't feel like I can justify it too well, but yeah.

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                            • poopoo333
                              MMA *********
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 18302

                              #74
                              Off to Ginasio Paulo Sarasate for UFC on FUELTV 10. Venue doesn't have air conditioning and it's 90+. Should be interesting...
                              hmm..this could effect the fighters imo

                              I do think this favors Jason High too if he can get the takedowns early. Silva has very suspect cardio and in those conditions it could start to wear out on him earlier than halfway through round 2 like it usually does

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                              • SPX
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 23875

                                #75
                                So the UFC staged some shit in a building that doesn't have air conditioning? WTF?
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