METAMORIS III March 29th

**Luke** · 03-16-2014, 07:53 PM

See anything good Scientist?

**Mr. IWS** · 03-17-2014, 02:36 PM

All in on Bravo!

**MMA_scientist** · 03-17-2014, 10:40 PM

I have a lot of thoughts. Honestly bravo is more likely to get the sub imo. He's much heavie and he has a more sub oriented game. There are no points but royler will most likely get the better and it will be a draw. Actually the match wont happen.

Lister by leg lock has value off the top of my head. Thats his game now its all he does.

Ill look closer when i am at a computer

**MMA_scientist** · 03-18-2014, 09:03 PM

They way the lines are set up, it will be hard to win by picking winners, most of the matches will go to a draw. Picking the subs is probably the only way to do anything.

Royler is the rightful favorite. Honestly Royler should style all over Eddie, but he will probably be extremely cautious. Bravo by other is +1400. Eddie usually doesn't even use his rubber guard, he usually plays half guard (at least when I have seen him rolling with high level guys). He basically has the triangle/omoplata game, and the twister. He might pull out some crazy twister variation. That's probably the bet if you are going to bet that match. That said, in the vids I have seen, Eddie gasses after only a few minutes of rolling. I am sure he is going to ramp up his training, but he definitely not in as good of shape as Royler, who was fighting top 20 MMA guys just a couple years ago and is still in very good shape. Eddie might gas, he hasn't competed in 11 years in anything. But I doubt there is a sub in the match tbh.

Rafa is the rightful favorite over clark IMO. A lot of people think Rafa is the best in the world, I don't, but he is definitely several notches above Clark. The only reason this match is interesting is that Clark is several weightclasses higher (imagine a grappling match between Demetrious JOhnson and someone like Donald Cerrone). One is the best at his weight, but he might still ose to a guy that is a contender but not a great at a higher weight. Probably Rafa by choke is the bet. Clark isn't going to sub Rafa.

Keenan vs. Vinny. Vinny is the odds favorite and Vinny has won more obviously, but I think Keenan is going to beat him. Keenan has done a sub only tourney before with Lloyd Irvin's Kumite, and he has been more active and has a better team. He might even sub him. Keenan @ +200 doesn't seem that bad.

Sean Roberts vs. Zak Maxwell. Even odds. Neither of these guys is a top top level guy, but they both bring it. Roberts did the Kumite and got 2nd to Keenan I think. I wouldn't bet this one at all, anything can happen here, but if forced I would pick Roberts.

Lister/Babalu. Babalu is an underrated grappler, but this is a mismatch. Dean is probably going to heel hook him. It is the only sub prop that is - odds, and for a reason. Since getting out of MMA, Lister has become a leg lock wizard, he is the best in the world at them IMO. That said, Babalu is a tough grappler, he beat Frank Mir in a grappling match a few years back and he has a well rounded game himself. Maybe fight ends in a draw at EV is the way to go.

I enjoyed typing this to myself. It is like when Luke used to break down boxing and no one read it. Also, where are you getting these lines?

**MMA_scientist** · 03-18-2014, 09:05 PM

They way the lines are set up, it will be hard to win by picking winners, most of the matches will go to a draw. Picking the subs is probably the only way to do anything.

Royler is the rightful favorite. Honestly Royler should style all over Eddie, but he will probably be extremely cautious. Bravo by other is +1400. Eddie usually doesn't even use his rubber guard, he usually plays half guard (at least when I have seen him rolling with high level guys). He basically has the triangle/omoplata game, and the twister. He might pull out some crazy twister variation. That's probably the bet if you are going to bet that match. That said, in the vids I have seen, Eddie gasses after only a few minutes of rolling. I am sure he is going to ramp up his training, but he definitely not in as good of shape as Royler, who was fighting top 20 MMA guys just a couple years ago and is still in very good shape. Eddie might gas, he hasn't competed in 11 years in anything. But I doubt there is a sub in the match tbh.

Rafa is the rightful favorite over clark IMO. A lot of people think Rafa is the best in the world, I don't, but he is definitely several notches above Clark. The only reason this match is interesting is that Clark is several weightclasses higher (imagine a grappling match between Demetrious JOhnson and someone like Donald Cerrone). One is the best at his weight, but he might still ose to a guy that is a contender but not a great at a higher weight. Probably Rafa by choke is the bet. Clark isn't going to sub Rafa.

Gui/Chantra. I am pretty confident this is going to be a draw. Gui is better, probably no sub.
Keenan vs. Vinny. Vinny is the odds favorite and Vinny has won more obviously, but I think Keenan is going to beat him. Keenan has done a sub only tourney before with Lloyd Irvin's Kumite, and he has been more active and has a better team. He might even sub him. Keenan @ +200 doesn't seem that bad.

Sean Roberts vs. Zak Maxwell. Even odds. Neither of these guys is a top top level guy, but they both bring it. Roberts did the Kumite and got 2nd to Keenan I think. I wouldn't bet this one at all, anything can happen here, but if forced I would pick Roberts.

Lister/Babalu. Babalu is an underrated grappler, but this is a mismatch. Dean is probably going to heel hook him. It is the only sub prop that is - odds, and for a reason. Since getting out of MMA, Lister has become a leg lock wizard, he is the best in the world at them IMO. That said, Babalu is a tough grappler, he beat Frank Mir in a grappling match a few years back and he has a well rounded game himself. Maybe fight ends in a draw at EV is the way to go.

I enjoyed typing this to myself. It is like when Luke used to break down boxing and no one read it. Also, where are you getting these lines?

**Luke** · 03-18-2014, 09:51 PM

bookmaker has them.

**Luke** · 03-29-2014, 04:55 PM

WILL BRAVO/GRACIE FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?
93215	YES - BRAVO/GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	-300
93216	NO - BRAVO/GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	+260

500 USD No Parlay/Buy

6:00 PM

WILL MENDES/GRACIE FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?
93219	YES - R MENDES/C GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	-300
93220	NO - R MENDES/C GRACIE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	+260

500 USD No Parlay/Buy

6:00 PM

WILL CORNELIUS/MAGALHAES FIGHT GO FULL DISTANCE?
93223	YES - CORNELIUS/MAGALHAES FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	+280
93224	NO - CORNELIUS/MAGALHAES FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	+240

500 USD No Parlay/Buy

6:00 PM

WILL LISTER/SOBRAL FIGHT GO FULL DISTANCE?
93227	YES - LISTER/SOBRAL FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	+110
93228	NO - LISTER/SOBRAL FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	-150

500 USD No Parlay/Buy

6:00 PM

WILL MENDES/CHANTRE FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?
93229	YES - MENDES/CHANTRE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	-400
93230	NO - MENDES/CHANTRE FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	+320

500 USD No Parlay/Buy

6:00 PM

WILL MAXWELL/ROBERTS FIGHT GO THE FULL DISTANCE?
93233	YES - MAXWELL/ROBERTS FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	-425
93234	NO - MAXWELL/ROBERTS FIGHT FULL DISTANCE	+350

**Luke** · 03-29-2014, 04:56 PM

This is tonight. All in on who??

**poopoo333** · 03-29-2014, 08:22 PM

Sorry, I don't bet on pro wrestling.

**zY|** · 03-29-2014, 08:38 PM

Yeah you do.

**Luke** · 03-29-2014, 10:21 PM

Zak Maxwell vs. Sean Roberts
OFFICIAL RESULT: Draw
Gui Mendes vs. Samir Chantre
OFFICIAL RESULT: Mendes def. Chantre (baseball choke)
Dean Lister vs. Renato “Babalu” Sobral
OFFICIAL RESULT: Draw
Keenan Cornelius vs. Vinny Magalhaes
OFFICIAL RESULT: Bout scratched due to Magalhaes illness. Details here. Kevin Casey stepped up as late replacement.
Keenan Cornelius vs. Kevin Casey
OFFICIAL RESULT: Cornelius def. Casey (inside heel hook)
Rafael Mendes vs. Clark Gracie
OFFICIAL RESULT: Draw
Eddie Bravo vs Royler Gracie
OFFICIAL RESULT :Draw

**Svino** · 03-30-2014, 03:27 PM

I heard Bravo almost subbed Royler again.

**edman5555** · 03-30-2014, 04:35 PM

Poopoo only bets gay mud wrestling flyweight division. Is eddie bravo a gay mud wrestler.

**Luke** · 03-30-2014, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by Svino

I heard Bravo almost subbed Royler again.

He did. Most agree Bravo schooled Royler

- E BRAVO VS R GRACIE
93131	EDDIE BRAVO WINS FIGHT	+200
93132	ROYLER GRACIE WINS FIGHT	+150
93133	FIGHT OUTCOME IS A DRAW	-325

FIGHT EXACT OUTCOME - E. BRAVO VS R. GRACIE
93134	BRAVO WIN BY CHOKE	+350
93135	BRAVO WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK	+500
93136	BRAVO WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK	+900
93137	BRAVO WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION	+1400
93138	GRACIE WIN BY CHOKE	+250
93139	GRACIE WIN BY ARM/SHOULDER LOCK	+600
93140	GRACIE WIN BY KNEE/ANKLE LOCK	+1100
93141	GRACIE WIN BY ANY OTHER SUBMISSION	+1200
93142	FIGHT OUTCOME IS A DRAW	-325

METAMORIS III March 29th

METAMORIS III March 29th

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