UFC on FOX 11: Werdum vs. Browne April 19th

[Luke]

[poopoo333]

Scientist?

[edman5555]

I favor Werdum as well but I think that Browne is almost too dangerous to bet against. FYI, Werdum has already come out and said that he will be very wary of shooting in on Browne for takedowns due to his ability to generate power in the clinch and tko people. I think Werdum probably has the better striking but IIRC Big nog was tagging him so better beware IMO.

[MMA_scientist]

I doubt Werdum can take him down. So, I dunno. Prob Browne.

[poopoo333]

I bet under 2.5 rounds @ -140 on Browne/Werdum

[edman5555]

I doubt Werdum can take him down. So, I dunno. Prob Browne.

Yeah he would probably have some trouble. However if Werdum can manage to get him down at some point during a scramble the difference in skill level is so high that he might be able to submit him. Point being is one takedown might be enough. Standing I could see it being close with a power edge to browne.

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah, Werdum has good striking now, but he is still sort of afraid to engage and doesn't have a lot of power. Browne has big power and a reach advantage. Werdum is not going to get the thai plumb on Browne like he did on Roy Nelson. I doubt it would be an instant submission unless Browne willing stays on the mat, which he wont. Having the guy engage on the mat makes it possible to sub them. Browne is going to be trying to explode to his feet. It could happen, and it probably will if they spend any extended time on the ground. But I think slight edge to Browne is probably right just because unless something weird happens, the natural order of the fight favors Browne IMO.

[Luke]

Its going to look just like Reem-Werdum

[edman5555]

Yeah, Werdum has good striking now, but he is still sort of afraid to engage and doesn't have a lot of power. Browne has big power and a reach advantage. Werdum is not going to get the thai plumb on Browne like he did on Roy Nelson. I doubt it would be an instant submission unless Browne willing stays on the mat, which he wont. Having the guy engage on the mat makes it possible to sub them. Browne is going to be trying to explode to his feet. It could happen, and it probably will if they spend any extended time on the ground. But I think slight edge to Browne is probably right just because unless something weird happens, the natural order of the fight favors Browne IMO.

Yeah good point about the reach advantage. There might be a speed differencenas well. Your right about the thai plum, brownes power will be too much of a threat there. Werdum might be able to gain an edge with his kicks though. He has some solid leg kicks. Browne did karate kid reem though.

[Mr. IWS]

Its going to look just like Reem-Werdum

I was thinking the same thing.

[edman5555]

I was thinking the same thing.

Werdum was actually doing decently against Reem.

[Luke]

Werdum was actually doing decently against Reem.

He lost every single round and butt-scooted most of the fight.

[MMA_scientist]

To be fair, Werdum has looked a lot better standing since that fight. Also, when he was actually engaging standing up, I think he was doing fine, he landed some pretty good combos. He was just scared.

[poopoo333]

Travis Browne > Alistair Overeem

[Mr. IWS]

Werdum is a bad ass. very impressed with Him. I thought He has a better shot at beating Cain, but I didnt think He would win last night.