Karo V Hazelett cancelled; Karo permanently out of the UFC

[SPX]

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Its easy to stop an addiction ,you just stop taking them its that easy . No one forces the pills down his throat

It's not easy at all.

[zY|]

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Its easy to stop an addiction ,you just stop taking them its that easy . No one forces the pills down his throat

It's not easy at all.

Yeah. Opiate withdrawal is anything but easy. In fact it's absolutely terrible.

[Luke]

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Sure it is .

You just dont pick the pills up ever again its that easy. People that say its hard to quit something dont want to quit is the problem

I smoked for 6 years one of the most addicting things in the world but not as bad as pills and one day when I ran out I didnt buy anymore .Three and a half years later and I have yet to smoke another one and I smoked a pack a day.Was I tempted to smoke again ? Yeah but I'm smart enough not too

Only weak people are addicted to things and dont quit .

This guy gets high off pills .He likes how he feels when he is high from them ,he doesnt want to quit or he would

[zY|]

Re: Karo V Hazelett cancelled; Karo permanently out of the UFC

LOL I'm not going to argue this anymore, but just know that you are completely and utterly wrong.

[SPX]

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LOL I'm not going to argue this anymore, but just know that you are completely and utterly wrong.

Agreed 100%. Not even worth discussing because we all need to stay friends around here.

[Natural Born Thriller]

Re: Karo V Hazelett cancelled; Karo permanently out of the UFC

Touchy subject for Zak, his brother and cousin. His cousin OD a few years back. His brother had a struggle for a long time.

[Natural Born Thriller]

Re: Karo V Hazelett cancelled; Karo permanently out of the UFC

Maybe easy to stop for some maybe, but not for most.

[SPX]

Re: Karo V Hazelett cancelled; Karo permanently out of the UFC

Maybe easy to stop for some maybe, but not for most.

Exactly. Everyone's different. Just because YOU can do something doesn't mean someone else can. Humans aren't made from cookie cutters and everyone's psychological makeup is different, imbuing us with a wide range of strengths, weaknesses and abilities.

[Luke]

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LOL I'm not going to argue this anymore, but just know that you are completely and utterly wrong.

I'm utterly and completely wrong because you said so lol

I guess I'm wrong .Even if he wanted to quit pills he couldnt because the pills would make him take them

[Luke]

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Maybe easy to stop for some maybe, but not for most.

Exactly. Everyone's different. Just because YOU can do something doesn't mean someone else can. Humans aren't made from cookie cutters and everyone's psychological makeup is different, imbuing us with a wide range of strengths, weaknesses and abilities.

If some people can quit easily how do you know I'm 100% wrong? How do you know that he really wants to quit these pills? How do you know that he doesnt like the high he gets everyday and doesnt want to lose that the rest of his life?

You are 100% I'm wrong but cant answer these questions

Oh and we can discuss this all night because I'm not going to get mad just because you guys dont agree with me .We cant agree on everything but that doesnt mean we can't dicuss things

From my experience 90% of addicts dont want to quit because they like the high and dont want to lose it

[Luke]

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But 10% do want to quit

[Luke]

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Touchy subject for Zak, his brother and cousin. His cousin OD a few years back. His brother had a struggle for a long time.

My brother takes a bunch of oxy and vicodin and all his friends do that I hang around so I also have first hand experience .He flat out told me once he doesnt want to quit because he likes the way they make him feel .I'm 100% sure though if they didnt make him high he'd quit them in a second even though he's addicted because they would no longer do anything for him

[zY|]

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Cmon man, seriously?

After awhile, you don't even take them to get high, you do it to feel normal. If anyone can "just quit", they aren't addicted in the first place. Opiate addiction is no mental thing. Opiate withdrawal is horrifying, with extreme physical symptoms that can last weeks or months.

Most opiates only stay in your system to show up on a drug test for a week or less, so it's retarded to say that he can't help himself "from getting high" a week before the fight. No, it's because he doesn't want to get his ass beat in the middle of withdrawals.

[Luke]

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Cmon man, seriously?

After awhile, you don't even take them to get high, you do it to feel normal. If anyone can "just quit", they aren't addicted in the first place. Opiate addiction is no mental thing. Opiate withdrawal is horrifying, with extreme physical symptoms that can last weeks or months.

Most opiates only stay in your system to show up on a drug test for a week or less, so it's retarded to say that he can't help himself "from getting high" a week before the fight. No, it's because he doesn't want to get his ass beat in the middle of withdrawals.

Those were my brothers exact words "because I like the way they make me feel" .Now maybe you're right he doesnt do them to get high he does them to feel right or normal but I took it as he liked getting high off them.I cant tell you for sure because its not me and I have never taken pills .

Well once I took like 4 muscle relaxers while I was drinking and couldnt even stay upright but thats another story

[SPX]

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I cant tell you for sure because its not me and I have never taken pills .

I honestly think this has a lot to do with it. Those who don't have a lot of experience doing drugs are always full of judgement of those who are under their spell.

Shit happens. People get roped in. There is such a thing as recreational use and sometimes that turns into something else before you even know it. I left all this judgmentalism behind when I left Christianity behind. Not to say that I can't still be a dickhead, but I'm a lot more aware of the way in which people can differ everyone's challenges in life are unique.