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  • SPX
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
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    Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

    What do you guys think about the role of TMAs in MMA?

    I know that Kyokushin Karate and Judo have always gotten respect, but by and large people act as if the TMAs are relics of a bygone past that have been proven ineffective. Shotokan Karate, long disparaged, got a jolt of popularity and respect when Machida showed that, yes, if properly trained and, perhaps, with a few modifications, it can be used in practical situations.

    Taekwondo was the style that I first trained in when I was a kid. I do believe that McDojos are rampant in terms of TKD, but like Shotokan, if properly trained, I think it can be very effective and I know that a number of serious TKD guys have gone on to do well in kickboxing.

    Here's a vid of an ITF TKD guy who has a decent MMA record of 14-9:



    ITF TKD is noticeably different from WTF, or Olympic-style TKD, in that hand techniques are emphasized and both punches and kicks are allowed to the head. There's actually an org referred to as "Pro-Taekwondo" that holds competitions that are basically kickboxing with some stupid rules about the use of hands like only straight punches being allowed.

    Beyond TKD and Karate, how about traditional kung fu? Could someone master the techniques of northern shaolin to the point of being able to use it effectively in a real fight?
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  • Mr. IWS
    215 Hustler
    • Sep 2006
    • 98673

    #2
    Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

    I think any striking martial art can be effective in MMA. But these guys need to have at least some wrestling, because 9 times out of 10, every fight hits the ground at least once. Im not saying they have to have some JJ, but I think in todays game, you can only go so far with Karate, TKD, etc.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    • SPX
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 23875

      #3
      Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

      Originally posted by IWS Zak
      I think any striking martial art can be effective in MMA. But these guys need to have at least some wrestling, because 9 times out of 10, every fight hits the ground at least once. Im not saying they have to have some JJ, but I think in todays game, you can only go so far with Karate, TKD, etc.

      Just my 2 cents.
      I agree with you. Maybe I should clarify and say that I mean TMAs in regard to the striking portion of the game. The grappling aspect is something else completely.

      Though some TMAs, like Hapkido, combine elements of both.
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      • Luke
        10 year vet
        • Oct 2006
        • 30060

        #4
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        I think you can still be a great MMA fighter even a champion with TMA. I dont even think you need a ground game .What you need is a good take down defense so you dont end up on the ground .Some say thats not going to happen but I point out thats what Liddell did when he was champ. It was almost impossible to take him down and then he let his Kemp Karate do the rest. Its something I still think it possible.Everyone now is just heading the wreslting direction at the moment.
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        • SPX
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 23875

          #5
          Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

          I think that obviously if you can have such good TD defense that the fight simply never makes it to the ground, and combine that with excellent striking, then you can go very far, perhaps all the way to the belt. I think Chuck never did lose that. He seems to have just gotten passed by in the striking area and has experienced a loss in his ability to take punches as well.
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          • SPX
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 23875

            #6
            Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

            This is the shit that I really want to see successfully used in the Octagon:


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            • Luke
              10 year vet
              • Oct 2006
              • 30060

              #7
              Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

              Originally posted by SPX
              This is the shit that I really want to see successfully used in the Octagon:



              you want to see a druken monkey used in the cage?
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              • Mr. IWS
                215 Hustler
                • Sep 2006
                • 98673

                #8
                Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

                Drunkin Monkey is underated. I think it would work.
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                • SPX
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 23875

                  #9
                  Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

                  If only a true master would emerge.

                  We need the Machida of Drunken Monkey.
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                  • zY|
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 8385

                    #10
                    Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

                    Slow week, huh?
                    Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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                    • Mr. IWS
                      215 Hustler
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 98673

                      #11
                      Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

                      Originally posted by zY|
                      Slow week, huh?

                      haha
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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 23875

                        #12
                        Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

                        Originally posted by zY|
                        Slow week, huh?
                        I literally laughed out loud at this shit.

                        Anyway, no, I have always been a TMA sympathizer and I'm going to be starting a Taekwondo class for credit at my college this coming semester, so my mind's on the subject. Thought I would raise some discussion about it.
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                        • Mr. IWS
                          215 Hustler
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 98673

                          #13
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                          I remember Tank Abbot fucked up John Matua, Matua was doing that Druckin Monkey shit.
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                          • Luke
                            10 year vet
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 30060

                            #14
                            Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

                            Originally posted by zY|
                            Slow week, huh?




                            Wait till football and basketball is over and the only thing that is on is baseball .I'll be posting every dumb thing under the sun
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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 23875

                              #15
                              Re: Traditional Martial Arts in MMA

                              Originally posted by IWS Zak
                              I remember Tank Abbot fucked up John Matua, Matua was doing that Druckin Monkey shit.
                              I must go look this fight up now. . .
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