UFC 111 odds / Discussion / Bets

[zY|]

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[SPX]

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Did that fight result in a TKO or KO?

[zY|]

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Did that fight result in a TKO or KO?

I fail to see your point.

[Ludo]

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The point is made by your Av. How many flush shots did Wanderlei land there? Anyone who takes 5 knee's from Wanderlei Silva like that before falling down has a hard fuckin' chin/head.

[SPX]

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I fail to see your point.

My point was that he's never been hit in a way that rendered him either unconscious or so far out of it that he could no longer effectively defend himself. He was obviously rocked, but still had his senses about him to the point of being able to recover and come back to win.

[zY|]

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The point is made by your Av. How many flush shots did Wanderlei land there? Anyone who takes 5 knee's from Wanderlei Silva like that before falling down has a hard fuckin' chin/head.

The question was pretty clearly "name one fighter who never goes out".

I'm pretty sure laying face first in the ropes bleeding profusely is the picture insert next to the definition of "KTFO".

[Ludo]

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Your looking to twist "name one fighter who just doesn't go out" into something superhuman. But I'll play the game. Dan Henderson

[zY|]

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I fail to see your point.

My point was that he's never been hit in a way that rendered him either unconscious or so far out of it that he could no longer effectively defend himself. He was obviously rocked, but still had his senses about him to the point of being able to recover and come back to win.

I find that interesting with you being such a Serra fan. I think the two fights are EXTREMELY similar. The difference is that Serra isn't a spaz like Fujita. Fedor was able to clinch and recover because Fujita got over excited and just stood there and is also fairly terrible. Serra kept his composure and stayed away and actually did a phenomenal job of getting the finish. Most guys probably would've rushed in frantically and gotten tied up. The point is anyone can be hurt by anybody. Discounting a fighter because it actually happened to them once is, in my opinion, ludicrous.

[zY|]

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Your looking to twist "name one fighter who just doesn't go out" into something superhuman. But I'll play the game. Dan Henderson

What about that kick in the face where he fell down and got choked out by A Silva?

I'm not the one making superhuman claims that some guys can't be knocked out with punches.

I'm simply saying the Serra/GSP fight should be the fight you point to and say "look, anyone can lose to anybody", not "look he has a weak chin". That's retarded.

[SPX]

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Discounting a fighter because it actually happened to them once is, in my opinion, ludicrous.

I'm not discrediting GSP at all. I'm just saying there's a precedent set for how Dan Hardy can win this fight.

With Fedor, it may be possible, but only theoretically since it's never happened in more than 30 fights.

[zY|]

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Discounting a fighter because it actually happened to them once is, in my opinion, ludicrous.

I'm not discrediting GSP at all. I'm just saying there's a precedent set for how Dan Hardy can win this fight.

With Fedor, it may be possible, but only theoretically since it's never happened in more than 30 fights.

LOL.

It's only theoretically possible for a human man to be knocked out by blunt force trauma to the head.

I'm done here.

[Ludo]

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I fail to see your point.

My point was that he's never been hit in a way that rendered him either unconscious or so far out of it that he could no longer effectively defend himself. He was obviously rocked, but still had his senses about him to the point of being able to recover and come back to win.

I find that interesting with you being such a Serra fan. I think the two fights are EXTREMELY similar. The difference is that Serra isn't a spaz like Fujita. Fedor was able to clinch and recover because Fujita got over excited and just stood there and is also fairly terrible. Serra kept his composure and stayed away and actually did a phenomenal job of getting the finish. Most guys probably would've rushed in frantically and gotten tied up. The point is anyone can be hurt by anybody. Discounting a fighter because it actually happened to them once is, in my opinion, ludicrous.[/quote:29rplhx5]



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No really, I'm Ludacris
Stop being ridiculous
*whips out gun* What now motherfucka! My name is Ludacris!"

[Ludo]

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Dan Henderson was never knocked out. Never in his entire career has he ever been knocked out with kicks, punches, elbows, knees, headbutts, or kryptonite.

[SPX]

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I'm simply saying the Serra/GSP fight should be the fight you point to and say "look, anyone can lose to anybody", not "look he has a weak chin". That's retarded.

You see, this attitude is the problem.

I know a lot of people agree with you, but the way you phrase it doesn't credit GSP . . . it discredits Serra. "Anyone can lose to anybody" instead of "Serra's a skilled and heavy-handed fighter who can beat anyone on any given night."

"Anyone can lose to anybody" is Silva losing to Chonan. Or something like BJ Penn losing to Dale Hartt.

[Mr. IWS]

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I can't remember ever seeing him take a shot where I was like, "OHHHH!!! FUCK!!!!!!! I can't believe he's still conscious after that!"

Its a fair point, but I dont think Hardy has ever delivered a shot like that to anyone above "can" level, if anyone, to warrant any fear of that happening to GSP.

I think GSP can take anything from Hardy, and walk through it. While I understand part of its hype, but it seems Everyone is making Hardy out to be some lights out type puncher, and I dont see it.