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  • SPX
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    • Aug 2009
    • 23875

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    Penn Eyes Possible Permanent Move to WW

    BJ Penn caused a stir recently when he revealed that he has been discussing a potential return to welterweight with UFC president Dana White. Now Penn has gone even further, stating the move could be permanent.

    Penn is less than a month away from defending his UFC lightweight title against Frankie Edgar at UFC 112, and while he's quick to say that he's not looking past Edgar, he's also clearly motivated by the chance to challenge himself against bigger fighters.

    "Yeah, I think there is a possibility of that," Penn told IGN.com. "I don't, in no way, want to look past Frankie Edgar. He's a good fighter; you never know what could happen. But if I go back to welterweight, maybe I'll try to give it a run, maybe fight a couple of fights there. We'll see how it goes. I might try to do it permanent. We'll see, I just don't want to rush anything, just take my time and go out there and do my best."

    Penn won the UFC welterweight title earlier in his career by defeating Matt Hughes at UFC 46, but then left the UFC over a contract dispute before defending the belt. He had a chance to fight Hughes to regain the title when he returned to the UFC, but suffered a controversial TKO loss in the third round of their fight at UFC 63.

    More recently, Penn made a bid to dethrone current welterweight champ Georges St. Pierre at UFC 94, but found himself physically dominated in a lopsided defeat.

    Since the loss, Penn has returned to lightweight with a vengeance; defending his title with dominant back-to-back victories over Kenny Florian and Diego Sanchez, two fighters who once fought as heavy as middleweight.

    However, if Penn does decide on a permanent move to welterweight, he'd do so at a significant size disadvantage. Despite that face, Penn was confident when asked how he thought he matched up against top contenders Jon Fitch and Thiago Alves.

    "I think I could do good against some of the top welterweights," Penn said. "Yeah, pretty big guys, but you gotta live some times. You gotta step up sometime, huh?"

    Penn is also open to the possibility of a rubber match with Matt Hughes.

    "Yeah. Yeah, you never know what could happen. Let's see how him and Renzo go, let's see what happens there."

    Penn is 15-5-1 in his career, but four of those five losses have come when competing against heavier opponents outside of the lightweight division.
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  • SPX
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 23875

    #2
    Re: Penn Eyes Possible Permanent Move to WW

    I like this and I hope he does it.

    It would be a lot more interesting than watching him crush everyone at LW, especially now that we're not getting good deals on lines.
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    • Mr. IWS
      215 Hustler
      • Sep 2006
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      Its really the only thing for him to do now. Like you said, these fights are not even good anymore. I would love to see BJ fight Hughes again, I would be all over BJ in that one.
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      • zY|
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        • Sep 2009
        • 8385

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        I dunno. He can go if he likes, but it's ridiculous to think he won't have any challenges. Don't think so short term. There will always be new challengers. Look at the MW division. Last year A Silva was fighting Patrick Cote and Thales Leites, now there's a plethora of contenders.

        Also, I quite enjoy watching guys lord over a division with impunity.
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        • SPX
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          • Aug 2009
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          Re: Penn Eyes Possible Permanent Move to WW

          Originally posted by zY|
          Also, I quite enjoy watching guys lord over a division with impunity.
          I liked it when his lines were opening at -170.
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          • MMA_scientist
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            • Nov 2009
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            I hope he stays at lw. He should try to beat Hughes' record of title defenses. Even though it seems like no one will ever beat him, he has really only defended a few times.

            Personally, I think BJ is the best PFP fighter in the world. He is the only champ that is both the best striker and the best grappler in his weight class.
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            • zY|
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              • Sep 2009
              • 8385

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              Re: Penn Eyes Possible Permanent Move to WW

              Originally posted by SPX
              Originally posted by zY|
              Also, I quite enjoy watching guys lord over a division with impunity.
              I liked it when his lines were opening at -170.
              As the philosopher Jagger once said, you can't always get what you want.

              Besides, Penn at -170 at WW won't be nearly as juicy as at LW. Those were just bad, bad lines because of the beating he took at WW.
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              • Luke
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                • Oct 2006
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                Re: Penn Eyes Possible Permanent Move to WW

                Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                I hope he stays at lw. He should try to beat Hughes' record of title defenses. Even though it seems like no one will ever beat him, he has really only defended a few times.

                Personally, I think BJ is the best PFP fighter in the world. He is the only champ that is both the best striker and the best grappler in his weight class.

                What about GSP who dominated Penn last time they fought? Penn is 5-3 in his last 8 that doesnt scream P4P king to me .



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                • SPX
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                  • Aug 2009
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                  Re: Penn Eyes Possible Permanent Move to WW

                  Originally posted by Luke
                  GSP is P4P king imo.He has avenged every defeat he has ever had
                  The problem with naming GSP P4P king is that he's only fought at WW. Yeah, Penn's record is a little spotty, but 4 of his 5 losses have been when fighting above LW and the only loss at 155 that he has (Jens Pulver) was brutally avanged.

                  I like GSP and think he has the potential to take the top P4P spot. Until I'll give it to him though he'll have to take some fights at middleweight. It doesn't necessarily have to be against Silva, but he it needs to at least be against some mid-tier guys. He needs to prove that he can at least be relevant somewhere other than 170.
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                  • Mr. IWS
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                    • Sep 2006
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                    • MMA_scientist
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                      • Nov 2009
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                      Re: Penn Eyes Possible Permanent Move to WW

                      Well, the whole debate with PFP is who would win if they were the same size. So GSP beating BJ adds nothing to his credibility as far as PFP goes.

                      GSP is a good 30 pounds heavier than BJ. I think if they were all the same size, BJ would beat everyone.

                      It is totally subjective of course. HWs would have different skills if they were smaller (or vice versa for LW's). But I think BJ is the least likely to lose at his own weight of any champion- which I think is maybe the best indicator.
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                      • Mr. IWS
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                        #12
                        Re: Penn Eyes Possible Permanent Move to WW

                        Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                        I think if they were all the same size, BJ would beat everyone.
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                        • Luke
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                          • Oct 2006
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                          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                          Well, the whole debate with PFP is who would win if they were the same size. So GSP beating BJ adds nothing to his credibility as far as PFP goes.

                          GSP is a good 30 pounds heavier than BJ. I think if they were all the same size, BJ would beat everyone.

                          It is totally subjective of course. HWs would have different skills if they were smaller (or vice versa for LW's). But I think BJ is the least likely to lose at his own weight of any champion- which I think is maybe the best indicator.

                          I think 30 pounds is a stretch .I would say they within 15-20 pounds of each other.

                          I agree BJ is probably the least likely to lose at his own weight but I personally think thats because he is in the weakest division. Who has BJ really beat that would be considered a top level fighter? Florian ? Thats it

                          I think GSP and Silva have fought better competition and won thats why I would rank them higher.

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                          • zY|
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                            • Sep 2009
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                            Are you guys seriously debating pound for pound fantasy nonsense?

                            Here's a tip, nobody is right. There's no way to prove any of this fairy tale crap, it just depends on what your particular bias is.

                            So who gives a flying fuck?
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                            • Luke
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                              • Oct 2006
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                              #15
                              Re: Penn Eyes Possible Permanent Move to WW

                              Originally posted by zY|
                              Are you guys seriously debating pound for pound fantasy nonsense?

                              Here's a tip, nobody is right. There's no way to prove any of this fairy tale crap, it just depends on what your particular bias is.

                              So who gives a flying fuck?

                              I guess we all do since we're discussing it

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