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  • Luke
    10 year vet
    • Oct 2006
    • 30060

    #91
    Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

    Originally posted by SPX
    Originally posted by Luke
    I dont agree with the hand feeding though.I know he's old but usually fighters do 1-2 goodbye fights and he signed for what 6 more fights? Sorry but if he has to feed him 6 more boxers or bums thats just sad if you ask me
    Well the fight with Coleman was a "legends" fight so that makes sense. Now he's fighting Toney. Toney's gotta fight somebody. Why not Couture? I guess they could've matched Toney up with Kimbo.

    Before that it was Lesnar and Nog, so c'mon.

    He signed a 6 fight deal after the NOG fight .So Vera was 1 and that was almost to much for him.Then Coleman was #2 .So Toney is #3 .You got to figure Dana will give him 2 more bums to fight for #4 and #5 and then have him fight for the title in his last fight on the contract

    I would have made it Toney-Kimbo .I think that fight made more sense .I mean putting Toney up against Couture in his first fight makes about as much sense imo of putting Couture against Toney in a boxing match
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    • SPX
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 23875

      #92
      Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

      Originally posted by Luke
      He signed a 6 fight deal after the NOG fight .So Vera was 1 and that was almost to much for him.Then Coleman was #2 .So Toney is #3 .You got to figure Dana will give him 2 more bums to fight for #4 and #5 and then have him fight for the title in his last fight on the contract
      Couture was coming off of a loss, so the Vera fight made as much sense as any other fight. That's the fucked up thing about Couture haters. When he gets fights against top guys then you cry foul and then when he gets a fight against a mid-level guy there's still a problem. I mean, what the fuck?

      Originally posted by Luke
      I would have made it Toney-Kimbo .I think that fight made more sense.
      Considering that Kimbo is basically a boxer without any pro boxing experience, then that fight would've been lopsided, too. Toney is at least a high level guy within his respective combat sport.

      Originally posted by Luke
      I mean putting Toney up against Couture in his first fight makes about as much sense imo of putting Couture against Toney in a boxing match
      You're right on that, but if Toney wants to run his fucking mouth about MMA, then let him fight a real MMA fighter right out of the gate.

      Dana's wants to teach him a lesson . . . not build him up.
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      • Luke
        10 year vet
        • Oct 2006
        • 30060

        #93
        Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

        Originally posted by SPX

        Couture was coming off of a loss, so the Vera fight made as much sense as any other fight. That's the fucked up thing about Couture haters. When he gets fights against top guys then you cry foul and then when he gets a fight against a mid-level guy there's still a problem. I mean, what the fuck?

        .
        I'm not a Couture hater I actually like the guy I just think its stupid when any fighter is given easy fights time after time when other guys are busting their asses.Remember I was also saying Tito-Liddell 3 was stupid because is was just a set up for Liddell. I mean you got fighters like JDS,Cain,Carwin fighting top contenders for 40k and Couture gets boxers for 350k paychecks.

        Considering that Kimbo is basically a boxer without any pro boxing experience, then that fight would've been lopsided, too. Toney is at least a high level guy within his respective combat sport.
        Toneys not really a top level fighter at this point .He hasnt looked good in a boxing match in 5 years.Kimbo beat Mercer a boxer.I think Kimbo-Toney would have been great



        You're right on that, but if Toney wants to run his fucking mouth about MMA, then let him fight a real MMA fighter right out of the gate.

        LOL Toney's just trying to sell tickers .You got to know the guy
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        • zY|
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 8385

          #94
          Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

          Kimbo would take Toney down immediately and own him on the floor just like Randy should. Watch Kimbo/Mercer. And don't be surprised if he tries the same thing on Meathead.
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          • MMA_scientist
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 9857

            #95
            Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

            Couture is going to pound Toney out inside 2 minutes. Couture has value. Couture wins this fight 99/100 times.

            Don't make me post Art Jimmerson again.

            I now hate Randy... and I would laugh if he lost. But he is not going to. It is probably the biggest lock in UFC main event history.
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            • poopoo333
              MMA *********
              • Jan 2010
              • 18302

              #96
              Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

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              • Luke
                10 year vet
                • Oct 2006
                • 30060

                #97
                Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                Hell I was going to take Schaub since the way people talked I figured it was going to be a close line but at -300 forget it
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                • Luke
                  10 year vet
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 30060

                  #98
                  Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                  Jacob Volkmann vs. Paul Kelly


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                  • poopoo333
                    MMA *********
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 18302

                    #99
                    Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                    Originally posted by Luke
                    Jacob Volkmann vs. Paul Kelly


                    I'll be on Volkmann.

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                    • SPX
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      #100
                      Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                      Originally posted by Luke
                      Hell I was going to take Schaub since the way people talked I figured it was going to be a close line but at -300 forget it
                      There might actually be some value in Tuch with this one.
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                      • ManBoobKilla
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 185

                        #101
                        Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                        all those underdogs look really good. My first instinct was Akiyama over silva, Carwin over Lesnar and grove over Reljic. I also think that tuchsherer and Bonnar have really good shots at winning.

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                        • Ludo
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 4931

                          #102
                          Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                          Bonnar was getting his ass handed to him before the cut happened. He won't get that far into the fight this time around I don't think. Akiyama really has a good shot to win this. His skillset is exactly the kind of skillset one might need to beat Wanderlei. A great chin, good footwork, excellent judo. That said I think Wanderlei wins this fight because he just seems to have the answer for japanese(or in this case korean) fighters. I am considering taking Grove over Reljic, I think ring rust will continue to be a factor here for Reljic , not to mention it's hard to train for Grove because of his length.
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                          • MMA_scientist
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 9857

                            #103
                            Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                            I liek Reljic at those odds. 2u on Reljic @ -140. I don't see an out for Grove. He is going to get lit up standing and if he takes it to the ground, he wont be able to finish.
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                            • Svino
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 3873

                              #104
                              Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                              I think Soszynski is a good bet. I like to bet fights I've already seen, and it's hard to go wrong betting against Stephan Bonnar.

                              I don't suppose anyone has a link to a video of the Hague / Tuscherer fight? I never saw it and I can't find it anywhere.

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                              • Mr. IWS
                                215 Hustler
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 99906

                                #105
                                Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                                Originally posted by Svino

                                I don't suppose anyone has a link to a video of the Hague / Tuscherer fight? I never saw it and I can't find it anywhere.
                                I came up empty on this one.
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