UFC 116 discussion/matchups

[Svino]

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It's cool; I get it now: Getting your ass beat in a fight is much more impressive than not getting your ass beat, because it shows your "heart" and your "chin". Makes perfect sense. So we're all on Russow to beat Duffee in a rematch, right?

Taking a beating that no one else in the UFC could have took and coming back to win the fight IS much more impresive than gassing out in the first round of a 5 round fight

Yeah, I'm not saying Carwin blew me away either. He's got problems to address, no doubt.

[Luke]

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Yeah, I'm not saying Carwin blew me away either. He's got problems to address, no doubt.

I wonder if nerves had to do with him gassing or he just really cant go more than a round

[SPX]

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I wonder if nerves had to do with him gassing or he just really cant go more than a round

I think he just can't do it. We all knew that was a possibility.

The question is whether or not he'll address that problem and fix it or if he's going to continue to be the guy who's good for one round and no more.

[Svino]

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Someone above mentioned Carwin possibly cutting down to 250 or so. He has fought in the 250's before. Of course, we don't know if his cardio was much better then or not.

[Luke]

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I wonder if nerves had to do with him gassing or he just really cant go more than a round

I think he just can't do it. We all knew that was a possibility.

The question is whether or not he'll address that problem and fix it or if he's going to continue to be the guy who's good for one round and no more.

Well I was planning on him gassing when I made my bet but I was expecting it to happen in round 3 or 4 not round 1

[Svino]

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Well I was planning on him gassing when I made my bet but I was expecting it to happen in round 3 or 4 not round 1

The thing is, I wouldn't be surprised at all if we continue to see these big HW fights not make it to round 3. So how much brute strength do you really want to give up for the sake of cardio? A 4 min tank is not enough though, that's for sure.

[zY|]

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I'm sure Carwin's cardio isn't bad really. He just put all his eggs in one basket going for the finish, especially with Rosenthal saying he's going to stop it several times. He just showed his inexperience and punched himself out.

[Thewiseman]

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I'm sure Carwin's cardio isn't bad really. He just put all his eggs in one basket going for the finish, especially with Rosenthal saying he's going to stop it several times. He just showed his inexperience and punched himself out.

+1

[Thewiseman]

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My buddy is giving me +250 for Velasquez, so 1u on Cain. I think he wins by dec or a late TKO.

[AC88]

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I will continually be putting money against Brock until I make my money back from losing betting against him.

[Luke]

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Disclosed payouts

Brock Lesnar ($400,000) def. Shane Carwin ($40,000)
Chris Leben ($86,000) def. Yoshihiro Akiyama ($45,000)
Chris Lytle ($52,000) def. Matt Brown ($10,000)
Stephan Bonnar ($50,000) def. Krzysztof Soszynski ($10,000)
George Sotiropoulos ($24,000) def. Kurt Pellegrino ($25,000)
Brendan Schaub ($20,000) def. Chris Tuchscherer ($12,000)
Ricardo Romero ($16,000) def. Seth Petruzelli ($10,000)
Kendall Grove ($50,000) def. Goran Reljic ($5,000)
Gerald Harris ($20,000) def. David Branch ($6,000)
Daniel Roberts ($12,000) def. Forrest Petz ($6,000)
Jonathan Madsen ($16,000) def. Karel Vemola ($8,000)

Total disclosed payouts: $898,000

Disclosed bonuses

Fight of the Night: Chis Leben vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama & Stephan Bonnar vs. Krzysztof Soszynski ($75,000 each)
KO of the Night: Gerald Harris ($75,000)
Submission of the Night: Brock Lesnar ($75,000)

Total disclosed bonuses: $450,000

[sbjj]

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Damn dude, if Leben keeps fighting this much, and picking up bonuses, the guy is going to be a millionaire.

[Luke]

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Brock Lesnar: Suspended until August 18 for right eyelid and left eyebrow lacerations

Shane Carwin: Suspended until September 2 for precautionary reasons

Chris Leben: Suspended until August 3 for a tough fight

Yoshihiro Akiyama: Suspended until August 18 for a tough fight

Stephan Bonnary: Suspended until August 18 for facial lacerations

Krzysztof Soszynski: Suspended until December 31 unless cleared by doctor for left thumb; minimum suspension until September 2

Kurt Pellegrino: Suspended until December 31 unless cleared by doctor for left knee; minimum suspension until August 18

Chris Tuchscherer: Suspended until December 31 unless cleared by doctor for hearing loss in left ear; minimum suspension until September 2 for right cheek laceration

Ricardo Romero: Suspended until December 31 unless cleared by doctor for broken jaw; minimum suspension until September 2

Seth Petruzelli: Suspended until December 31 unless cleared by doctor for right elbow strain; minimum suspension until September 2

Dave Branch: Suspended until September 2 for precautionary reasons

[Luke]

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Broken jaws,hearing loss and thumbs but the funniest suspensions are "tough fight " LOL

[Mr. IWS]

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Shane Carwin: Suspended until September 2 for precautionary reasons

It will probably take until them for him to get his second wind.