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  • Luke
    10 year vet
    • Oct 2006
    • 30060

    #16
    Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

    Originally posted by SPX
    Originally posted by Luke
    Because the fight was 10 years too late. Jones-Hopkins 10 years or even 7 years ago might have broke the PPV sales mark at the time.Now it was just two washed up fighters that had no other options fighting because they had no other options. Boxing fans,me included, were pissed these two didnt fight long ago so no one was willing to pay 50 bucks see two fighters that had nothing left fight now.

    I mean would you want to see Carwin-Lesnar now when they are both basically undefeated and in their primes or in 10 years when they both have a bunch of loses,have no other options and should already be retired because they arent even good fighters anymore?
    To be fair B-Hop only has 5 losses and Jones only has 7. But I understand that in boxing that constitutes "a bunch of losses." In MMA it wouldn't be such a big deal.

    I know a lot of people thought Liddell-Wanderlei was a few years too late, but I guess that's not 10 years.

    Yes 5 and 7 is a lot in boxing .When they "should" have fought Jones had one loss which was a DQ(not really a loss) and B-Hop had two loses ,one to Jones and one on his boxing debut in 1988
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    • zY|
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 8385

      #17
      Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

      Just seems crazy to me that an amazing record of 54-5 is considered a lot of losses. I don't get it. Do these guys just fight nothing but cans, or just that the level of variance is much lower in boxing? I would think it's a bit of both.
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      • Luke
        10 year vet
        • Oct 2006
        • 30060

        #18
        Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

        Originally posted by zY|
        Just seems crazy to me that an amazing record of 54-5 is considered a lot of losses. I don't get it. Do these guys just fight nothing but cans, or just that the level of variance is much lower in boxing? I would think it's a bit of both.


        I dont consider 5 loses a lot if they are spread out but in Jones case he's 5-6 in his last 11.Thats alot of loses.Hopkins is 5-3 in his last 8.I consider the 3 losses alot because they are so recent.

        Boxers also fight between 20-25 cans before they ever get to a title fight unlike in MMA .They also might fight 10 cans while defending the title(think GSP-Hardy)

        Boxers only fight 10 top fighters in a career in most cases so if lose 5-7 of those its a lot of loses

        I counted and Jones only fought 9 top level fighters in his career and has 7 loses,Hopkins 11 top fighter 5 loses.

        Now in the UFC you dont get 25 cans before going for the title and you migh on get 2 cans for every top fighter you fight once getting the title


        So I think in MMA there are so many more ways to lose plus the fact UFC fighters fight better competition leads to more loses
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        • zY|
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 8385

          #19
          Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

          Ah ok. Kinda what I figured.

          Honestly I don't think fighting 20 cans at the beginning of your career is a bad thing at all. In MMA a guy like Jon Jones wins 2 fights and looks impressive and it's all 'zomg title shot' when he's clearly not even close to ready and needs time to work on his game.
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          • Luke
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            • Oct 2006
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            #20
            Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

            Originally posted by zY|
            Ah ok. Kinda what I figured.

            Honestly I don't think fighting 20 cans at the beginning of your career is a bad thing at all. In MMA a guy like Jon Jones wins 2 fights and looks impressive and it's all 'zomg title shot' when he's clearly not even close to ready and needs time to work on his game.

            Jones could beat Machida right now and you know it
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            • SPX
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 23875

              #21
              Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

              Originally posted by Luke
              Jones could beat Machida right now and you know it
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              • zY|
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 8385

                #22
                Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

                Originally posted by Luke
                Originally posted by zY|
                Ah ok. Kinda what I figured.

                Honestly I don't think fighting 20 cans at the beginning of your career is a bad thing at all. In MMA a guy like Jon Jones wins 2 fights and looks impressive and it's all 'zomg title shot' when he's clearly not even close to ready and needs time to work on his game.

                Jones could beat Machida right now and you know it
                Yeah, ROY Jones maybe, in a boxing match.
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                • Ludo
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                  • Jan 2010
                  • 4931

                  #23
                  Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

                  He's fucking with ya'll...
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                  • zY|
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 8385

                    #24
                    Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

                    It's all good
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                    • Luke
                      10 year vet
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 30060

                      #25
                      Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

                      Originally posted by Luke
                      Originally posted by zY|
                      Ah ok. Kinda what I figured.

                      Honestly I don't think fighting 20 cans at the beginning of your career is a bad thing at all. In MMA a guy like Jon Jones wins 2 fights and looks impressive and it's all 'zomg title shot' when he's clearly not even close to ready and needs time to work on his game.

                      Jones could beat Machida right now and you know it

                      One I was talking about Jon Jones beating Machida and two I was joking
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                      • zY|
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 8385

                        #26
                        Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

                        Originally posted by Luke
                        Originally posted by Luke
                        Originally posted by zY|
                        Ah ok. Kinda what I figured.

                        Honestly I don't think fighting 20 cans at the beginning of your career is a bad thing at all. In MMA a guy like Jon Jones wins 2 fights and looks impressive and it's all 'zomg title shot' when he's clearly not even close to ready and needs time to work on his game.

                        Jones could beat Machida right now and you know it

                        One I was talking about Jon Jones beating Machida and two I was joking
                        So was I. Glad we settled that.
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                        • Luke
                          10 year vet
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 30060

                          #27
                          Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

                          At this point in his career I dont think Roy could beat Ali in a boxing match
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                          • Mr. IWS
                            215 Hustler
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 98674

                            #28
                            Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

                            Originally posted by zY|
                            I dunno.

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                            • zY|
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 8385

                              #29
                              Re: Roy Jones fought for free Saturday

                              Yeah. He's also Dana White's personal mouthpiece.
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