Australia Impact promotion

[zY|]

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http://www.inquisitr.com/29889/ufc-vete ... d-aged-41/

RIP

[Ludo]

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Uh, that was later found to be false, zY. Kimo's manager came out like a week later and said not only is Kimo alive and well but was training as he spoke.

[zY|]

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W/e man, everyone knows he died of a drug OD.

[Luke]

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http://www.inquisitr.com/29889/ufc-veteran-kimo-leopoldo-dead-aged-41/

RIP

I thought you were joking at first .Now that I know you werent its even funnier

[Luke]

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W/e man, everyone knows he died of a drug OD.

Everyone at sherdog



I got to admit that cracked me up

[Luke]

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here you go Zy

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=4347417

[Ludo]

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http://mmajunkie.com/news/15591/video-k ... eports.mma

[zY|]

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[Ludo]

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someone make that for you down at the boardwalk or some shit? It looks like a fried egg meets the Joker.

[SPX]

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You're wrong

Couture,Silva ,Belfort can all "still hang"

I see those guys as the next generation. I mean, Belfort and Couture made their debuts in 1996 and 1997, respectively. That's 3 to 4 years after UFC 1, which I know doesn't sound like a lot of time, but the sport made some pretty big leaps during that period. The guys who were in, like, UFCs 1-5 were really having to feel their way through this whole thing. These were the guys who had to figure out that one style won't do it and that you need both striking and grappling skills, as well as just what the fuck BJJ is about.

By the time Couture, Silva and Belfort got into it, we were already at MMA version 2.0.

As for who Kimo beat, Pat Smith and Paul Varelans were both among the more "respected" guys early on. And as for that ass whipping that Kimo was laying on Royce before he got submitted, and him outweighing Royce, yeah, sure he outweighed him, but it's still an accomplishment considering that EVERYONE outweighed Royce at that point and no one else had done that up to that point.

[Svino]

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I see those guys as the next generation. I mean, Belfort and Couture made their debuts in 1996 and 1997, respectively.

As for who Kimo beat, Pat Smith and Paul Varelans were both among the more "respected" guys early on.

Yeah, that's kind of how I see it, too. I certainly wouldn't say Kimo was a "good fighter" in any absolute sense, but Shamrock's fight with Kimo was actually a defense of his Superfight championship. Really the closest thing the UFC had to a title belt at the time. The scene changes dramatically soon afterwards: Coleman, Couture, Belfort, and Kerr were about to enter the picture. I thought Coleman was going to be invincible when I first saw him. Then I thought Belfort was going to be invincible. Crazy times.

[MMA_scientist]

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You can say that Ken was one of the better guys to be invited to the original UFCs. But I think you guys are putting way too much stock on who happened to be invited to UFC 1-4. The Gracie family handpicked all of these guys to showcase their art. They handpicked Royce, even though he was way down the ladder in terms of skill, because he was small and weak with no real special attributes. He was an everyman and GJJ is about the smaller weaker man using leverage to beat the bigger man. So the fact that Ken happened to be invited had nothing to do with his skill except that they knew Royce would beat him. Same thing with Kimo, Severn, Pat Smith and anyone else in the very first class of UFC fighters.

But to say this somehow made them the best fighters, that's just wrong. They were the guys that got invited for whatever reason to help showcase GJJ.

Vale Tudo had been going on in Brazil in pretty much its current form in Brazil since the 60's. There were tons of guys that fought vale tudo in Brazil, including americans, that knew what fighting was about. They knew the ground and the striking. There were a ton of guys that would have whipped Royce's and Ken's asses easily.

Like you, I didn't know any of this at the time, so I though Royce was teh baddest man on the planet and Ken was the 2nd baddest man. Now that I know better, I see Ken for what he was: One onf the guys who happened to be invited to UFC 1, and a figure who helped popularize MMA. But he is not now, nor was he ever, a great or (even very good IMO) fighter.

[MMA_scientist]

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Awesome post by Justin Wren about and unknown Vale Tudo legend in the 60's with pics: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/blond ... d-1278197/

[SPX]

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Awesome post by Justin Wren about and unknown Vale Tudo legend in the 60's with pics: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/blond ... d-1278197/

Dude, that shit's long, but I started it and will finish it by the end of the day. . .

[zY|]

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^^awesome link