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  • MMA_scientist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 9857

    #1

    Bellator 18 4/13

    Hector Lombard vs. Paulo Filho

    Lombard is an olympic judoka and bellator MW champion. He has only lost to Mousasi and Gono. He is a brute. But Filho has only lost once, to Sonnen when he was apparently seeing ghosts in the cage. He also defeated Sonnen. He defeated Manhoef since then. Not long ago, he was the consensus #2 MW. He went from being the undefeated guy everyone wanted to see fight Silva, to not in the top 10 at all, based on one loss to the now #2 MW. Filho has a lot of issue, but he is still a BA.
    I have to give an edge to Filho here. But I think Lombard probably has a striking advantage, and with his judo pedigree can keep it upright. If Lombard engages Filho on the ground, he could be in trouble. I need to look at Lombard's standup and takedown defense a little bit. Either guy could have value as a dog.

    Joe Warren vs. Georgi Karakhanyan

    Warren should win this, but Georgi will have value @ +170 IMO.
    Georgi is a wildly aggressive striker and has a good submission game from his back. Warren was nearly submitted 3 times in his last outing. I could definately see a triangle here. If it stays upright for more than a few minutes, Warren is toast.


    Patricio “Pitbull” Freire vs. Wilson Reis
    Reis will probably open as the rightful favorite. He made it to the Bellator finals last season, and looked great last round. BUT, Pitbull is live. Reis is a bjj world champion with very good takedowns. But Pitbull is a bjj stud himself, though he does not have the top control game that Reis has. He has a enough to not get submitted though, or even positionally dominated. But Pitbull has way better standup IMO. I probably won't bet Reis unless he comes in close to even. I will probably be on Pitbull as a dog. Reis could open in the -250 range.


    If we get lines on these, I will look at them then:

    Jules Bruchez vs. Lamont Stafford
    Shawn Jordan vs. Doug Williams
    Christian Fulgium vs. Charlie Rader
    Mike Braswell vs. Brock Kerry
    2012: +19.33
    2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
  • SPX
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 23875

    #2
    Re: Bellator 18 4/13

    How do you think Sonnen would do against Filho today?
    I heart cock

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    • ManBoobKilla
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 185

      #3
      Re: Bellator 18 4/13

      Isnt lombard going to face the winner of this years bellator tournament? If so why is he fighting a very dangerous opponent? What happens if he loses? I dont think he will lose but Filho does have a good shot

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      • MMA_scientist
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 9857

        #4
        Re: Bellator 18 4/13

        ^^ it's at a catchweight.

        Same as the Alvarez/Neer fight. Alvarez is the LW champ. They fought @ 160.
        2012: +19.33
        2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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        • zY|
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 8385

          #5
          Re: Bellator 18 4/13

          Originally posted by SPX
          How do you think Sonnen (R-Or) would do against Filho today?
          He'd probably get armbarred again, if Filho has his mind right.

          Does he though? Didn't he just pull out of this fight last week and then apparently it was back on?

          If he's not 100% and is talking to Jesus, Hector is going to hurt this man bad.
          Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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          • ManBoobKilla
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 185

            #6
            Re: Bellator 18 4/13

            Originally posted by MMA_scientist
            ^^ it's at a catchweight.

            Same as the Alvarez/Neer fight. Alvarez is the LW champ. They fought @ 160.
            Lol ok I see. And then what if he gets hurt in this fight? Not saying it is practical or will happen or anything. Are they just assuming and hoping he wont I guess.

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            • MMA_scientist
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 9857

              #7
              Re: Bellator 18 4/13

              Originally posted by SPX
              How do you think Sonnen (R-Or) would do against Filho today?
              I think it would look about the same as the 2 fights they had. Sonnen has better standup and Filho can't take him down. If Sonnen willingly went down, I think he would get subbed again.

              I don't buy the Sonnen-is-a-bad-ass-now theory. He looks about the same as he always has to me. I think he is benefitting from a string of favorable matchups. He has soft hands, and poor sub defense. I think Maia, Shields, Hendo, Jacare, Silva, Frankin and a few others would all beat him. Sonnen is basically a pillow handed Henderson.

              That said, I do like him.
              2012: +19.33
              2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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              • ManBoobKilla
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 185

                #8
                Re: Bellator 18 4/13

                I will probably be betting on lombard based on Filho is crazy and has way too many issues

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                • MMA_scientist
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 9857

                  #9
                  Re: Bellator 18 4/13

                  Originally posted by ManBoobKilla
                  Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                  ^^ it's at a catchweight.

                  Same as the Alvarez/Neer fight. Alvarez is the LW champ. They fought @ 160.
                  Lol ok I see. And then what if he gets hurt in this fight? Not saying it is practical or will happen or anything. Are they just assuming and hoping he wont I guess.
                  that's always a risk with any fight. But it is even more present with the tourny style that Bellator runs.

                  I think Bellator's business plan is to get a handful of the best fighters they can get and make them fight a lot. Its awesome. They only have like 20 guys under contract. They only keep them for a couple of months, and then they start all over.
                  2012: +19.33
                  2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                  • MMA_scientist
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 9857

                    #10
                    Re: Bellator 18 4/13

                    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                    Originally posted by SPX
                    How do you think Sonnen (R-Or) (R-Or) would do against Filho today?
                    I think it would look about the same as the 2 fights they had. Sonnen (R-Or) has better standup and Filho can't take him down. If Sonnen (R-Or) willingly went down, I think he would get subbed again.

                    I don't buy the Sonnen-is-a-bad-ass-now theory. He looks about the same as he always has to me. I think he is benefitting from a string of favorable matchups. He has soft hands, and poor sub defense. I think Maia, Shields, Hendo, Jacare, Silva, Frankin and a few others would all beat him. Sonnen (R-Or) is basically a pillow handed Henderson.

                    That said, I do like him.
                    lol at the automatic (R-OR). I was like, hey, I didn't type that.
                    2012: +19.33
                    2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                    • MMA_scientist
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 9857

                      #11
                      Re: Bellator 18 4/13

                      Sonnen
                      2012: +19.33
                      2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                      • MMA_scientist
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 9857

                        #12
                        Re: Bellator 18 4/13

                        ^^^ HA

                        Sonnen
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                        • ManBoobKilla
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 185

                          #13
                          Re: Bellator 18 4/13

                          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                          Sonnen (R-Or)
                          Whats with the (R-Or)???

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                          • MMA_scientist
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 9857

                            #14
                            Re: Bellator 18 4/13

                            Originally posted by ManBoobKilla
                            Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                            Sonnen (R-Or)
                            Whats with the (R-Or)???
                            Sonnen is running for some public office (State Rep I think). He is a republican (R) in Oregon (Or)

                            I guess Zac programmed it in that whenever you type Son nen , it goes (R-Or) automatically. I didn't know it, so it was funny to me.
                            2012: +19.33
                            2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                            • ManBoobKilla
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 185

                              #15
                              Re: Bellator 18 4/13

                              [quote=MMA_scientist]
                              Originally posted by ManBoobKilla
                              Originally posted by "MMA_scientist":2mv3h2fk
                              Sonnen (R-Or)
                              Whats with the (R-Or)???
                              Sonnen (R-Or) is running for some public office (State Rep I think). He is a republican (R) in Oregon (Or)

                              I guess Zac programmed it in that whenever you type Son nen , it goes (R-Or) automatically. I didn't know it, so it was funny to me.[/quote:2mv3h2fk]

                              I see lol ok

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