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  • MMA_scientist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 9857

    #1

    Bellator 19

    Joe Soto vs. Diego Saraiva
    Dan Hornbuckle vs. Steve Carl
    Ben Askren vs. Ryan Thomas

    lines will probably be out today.

    Askren/Thomas is the only competitive fight. I would love to bet on Soto and Hornbuckle, but they will both be -400 or more. I will take either or both less than -400 though. They are both fighting decent opponents though, so i can't use either one for my year long parlay on favorites.

    What do you guys think about Askren/Thomas II? I just rewatched the first fight on youtube. I forgot that Thomas had a deep triangle on Askren. I still feel that Askren will win. As more time passes, the more his control will be a factor.
    2012: +19.33
    2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
  • Mr. IWS
    215 Hustler
    • Sep 2006
    • 99903

    #2
    Re: Bellator 19

    I was with you on Askren the first time, but to be honest, I was not comfortable the weight that fight was going. Askren looks like is he ripe to get subbed, and Im laying off this time. He didnt control Thomas the way I though he would.
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    • MMA_scientist
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 9857

      #3
      Re: Bellator 19

      ^^ Yeah, I am not going to bet it unless the line is a lot closer this time.
      2012: +19.33
      2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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      • MMA_scientist
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 9857

        #4
        Re: Bellator 19



        Soto and Hornbuckle cheap.

        6u each @ -415 and -435
        2012: +19.33
        2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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        • SPX
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 23875

          #5
          Re: Bellator 19

          Cheap?
          I heart cock

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          • MMA_scientist
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 9857

            #6
            Re: Bellator 19

            I thought both would be like -600


            There is definite value ot Thomas too. Will probably drop .33 there
            2012: +19.33
            2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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            • MMA_scientist
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 9857

              #7
              Re: Bellator 19

              How is Askren -550? That is just retarded. He was overvalued last time @ -300... I am definately going to drop .25 onThomas @ +400... that is just silly.
              2012: +19.33
              2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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              • SPX
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 23875

                #8
                Re: Bellator 19

                Cheap was your mother on the street corner last night. Not -4XX for an MMA fighter.
                I heart cock

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                • MMA_scientist
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 9857

                  #9
                  Re: Bellator 19

                  done. done. And done.

                  SPX: your mom's an mma fighter.

                  Value is relative... you know that.
                  2012: +19.33
                  2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                  • SPX
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 23875

                    #10
                    Re: Bellator 19

                    Yeah, it's hard for me to lay -4XX on anyone and I know it is for you, too.
                    I heart cock

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                    • MMA_scientist
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 9857

                      #11
                      Re: Bellator 19

                      Originally posted by SPX
                      Yeah, it's hard for me to lay -4XX on anyone and I know it is for you, too.
                      I go to -400 all the time. I don't like going over. But since I am chasing, it seems like a good idea. You should chase your losses too. Its the way to go.
                      2012: +19.33
                      2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 23875

                        #12
                        Re: Bellator 19

                        Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                        You should chase your losses too. Its the way to go.
                        Well that's where the whole 20-unit bankroll thing came from. . .
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                        • Thewiseman
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 510

                          #13
                          Re: Bellator 19

                          Thomas .25u to win 1u

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                          • Ludo
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 4931

                            #14
                            Re: Bellator 19

                            .25u on Thomas to win .96u
                            .25u on Carl to win .9u
                            2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
                            Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
                            Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
                            Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

                            2012: +20.311u

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                            • MMA_scientist
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 9857

                              #15
                              Re: Bellator 19

                              These lines are a great example of how crazy the betting public is. If I ever start to doubt that I can beat the public, I will look at these lines.

                              Askren is not the biggest favorite on the card. Do people not remember that the fight was very competitive, and it was a BS stoppage? Askren wasn't controlling him vert well at all, and was close to being subbed himself... He will probably win, but -535? That is just straight up stupid.

                              Hornbuckle, on the other hand is fighting a guy that got a gift decision in round one, and was fighting a fighter several tiers below Hornbuckle. Carl is probably going to try to wrestle his way to a decision, which I guess is possible... But Hornbuckle has a slick ground game and very good striking. And he is huge, while Carl is small.
                              2012: +19.33
                              2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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